Banned from Nexus

[jimdandy28]

 

 

They ban people on a regular basis for uploading IMAGES of content ported from one game to another.

When it is clearly illegally ported, of course. Or for the posters like Elewin who try an rub it in others noses? I expect strict rules and zero tolerance when its a 6 man mod team to handle 10,000+ regular users.

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

You have no idea why I was banned. The entire exchange took place via PMs. All you know is what they want you to from reading a 'banned page'. But I know what happened, the staff knows what happened, and the friends I sent copies of the PMs to know what happened. These are the same friends who are being put in the middle by THE NEXUS STAFF behind the silly things I say here.

 

I was banned because I stood up to the Nexus Staff concerning the way they treat certain members of that so-called community. I did it in a private setting so as NOT to incite others. I stood up for myself and others and dared to question the staff. And for that I was banned for 'harassing them'. If that makes me a douche, then I'll wear your Scarlet Letter with pride.

 

 

Ok, so feel free to send me said pm's. Cause what I see is a mod team that I have never seen be anything but professional vs someone who is still harassing them from a completely different site. You have seriously attacked them for 3 strait pages now, over something that happened months ago. Whether you were harassing them before or not, I do not know, but considering your actions now I have more than enough reason to believe them. There is a way to stand up for yourself and broach subjects without being a dick, which I have thus far seen no evidence that you know how to do. You are great at taking praise, but even on your previous mod pages you were short at best when it came to handling any kind of criticism or "dumb question".

 

 

Like I said, this is a thread about the bannings that go on at the nexus. Who the hell are you to say one way or the other what should or shouldn't be discussed here? Why is it such a big problem to YOU what others decide to discuss on this website? And just who are you to say ANYTHING needs to stop on this website? Do YOU own the Nexus? Are YOU a moderator at the Nexus? are you close friends of said parties? Why any discussion on this website should bother you to the point of trying to tell This website certain things need to stop is beyond any authority you may think you have. You do not own this website, you do not moderate this website. and the powers that be are the ONLY ones that will decide what does or doesn't get discussed here. Period. And the inability to mention LL on the Nexus has little to do with copyrighted material on this site, it has mostly to do with the type of content available here. but you can believe whatever the Nexus tells you if you like.

 

 

I am a part of this community pointing out that there is no good coming from this thread at this point. All you are doing is forming a mob and breeding more hate where there should be none.

 

Also, while I agree that there is certainly a segment of this community that is clearly unwelcome there, to think that its just the T&A crowd after how hardcore they are with anything even hinting at piracy is beyond irrational. But then, as you so clearly put in your own statement, Robyn has every right to decide who gets to play and in what way on his website. Which is fine. You follow his rules and you get to play with his toys. The fact that you find his rules "too harsh" and have decided to rebel instead of handle it like adults is the part I am getting at.

 

 

I assume this is also true for the Nexus Staff?  Or does it only apply to us?

 

Funny in a sad and very ironic way, we're not allowed to voice our opinions on Nexus, and now (by your standard) we're not allowed to voice them here either.  I had no idea the arm of Nexus was so very VERY long.

 

Such as? I have seen them unban people. I have talked to people who admitted they screwed up when they were banned and were unbanned. Where is this great list of injustice? I have asked plenty of "iffy" questions of the moderators, and every time I have been answered with nothing but respect. I have broached issues of "I am not sure this is appropriate for this site" even after they had allowed items to stay, all without any kind of negative impact. Why exactly do you think that is? I certainly do not feel like I have been oppressed. Do you really think I am just a brainwashed sheep as your post implies? I mean really?

 

[Kendo 2]

In spite of what you might think, this thread will continue until such a time as the LL Staff decides otherwise.  You've called me a douche and a dick within two pages YET you want to dictate to me (and other members) what is and is not allowable.  In your mind, you somehow hold the high ground in all this because you don't agree with it what we are saying.  Amazing.  Nexus-esque staff amazing.

 

EDIT: interesting to point out that you are doing the exact same thing you're chastising me for.   And that's just fucking funny.

[gregathit]

Can I just chime in here and say "FUCK THE NEXUS!!!!"

 

 

Mostly just cause I can and because it "just feels right".              

 

 

And for the record, LL was banned from the Nexus pretty much from day one (when LL was founded after Wolflore closed its doors to sex mods) and that was long before "ported" material was in wide circulation.  They banned LL due to the sex mods (likely the creature sex parts).  That they or anyone else says otherwise is just misguided ignorance.

 

[Endiness]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiT1Bee6GYA&feature=youtube_gdata

[AwfulArchdemon]

Ashal should post that in the 'community rules' section.

[RitualClarity]

 

And for the record, LL was banned from the Nexus pretty much from day one (when LL was founded after Wolflore closed its doors to sex mods) and that was long before "ported" material was in wide circulation.  They banned LL due to the sex mods (likely the creature sex parts).  That they or anyone else says otherwise is just misguided ignorance.

 

So very true. I truly believe that they aren't concerned with LL because of competition. This site as good as it is isn't the size to be in any way concerned with compared to Nexus. (Their view). They are concerned with the creature sex and other perversions that abound many threads here on this site.

 

I came and checked out this site from hints and banning from he nexus way before joining this site. At first I wasn't sure because of the graphic content. Content that can be far more intense and graphic then anything the Nexus has. It wasn't until I read many post and interactions where I realized that this is a great community with most of the members caring about each other and willing to help each other. Even at first I would only download and sample some of the "perversions' mostly to get a laugh because I was board of the game I was playing. I posted a few questions and answers to others following the examples of the "leaders" of the forums. Then I met more and more individuals through interactions and PM's and posted more and more as a result. It is the community that makes this Forum better than Nexus is. It is this Forum that inspires and helps develop many of the newer generation of modders not Nexus.

 

On another note: (forgive me from deviating from the OP)

It saddens me to see members calling other members Douche and dicks and other names publicly. This isn't only on this thread other threads are also suffering from this as well. Openly hostile and rude. Each time this occurs it brings this forum closer to the ranks of Nexus and harms the community that has developed here. It isn't necessary to be vile or cruel to get a point across and being vile or cruel only elicits emotional and often hostile responses. Clean clear counterarguments can be made for any comments without such language or actions being taken. Actions degrading to the point where members feel that they have to stoop to those levels have lost their argument right there and have done nothing but degrade into being a troll.

 

If a site starts to become infested with trolls there is only one solution and that entails becoming more and more like the Nexus. Tolerances will be smaller and easier to violate in order to keep control Eventually everybody looses site of the main purpose of the Forum/ site. Nexus has had this happen to them. It can happen here as well if we can't moderate our-self and our post and interactions with others.

 

WE are the community, we are what makes it good, we will ultimately be the ones responsible for destroying it as well.

[irift001]

These were hilarious, I loved them. Some mod just got butt hurt. 

[...0...]

Did you not get a warning?

 

They saw the comic and right away banned you?

 

Then i can only say who ever desided to ban you have obvious limited intelect and open mind.

 

You must somehow have hurt his feelings, if thats the case, what a crybaby

 

I don't see why they should ban you for this unless the moderator's are hypocrits and narrowminded.

 

 

[Endiness]

 

 

Did you not get a warning?

The forum thread got to the point where it was closed. The problem became where the author re-created the thread.

 

They saw the comic and right away banned you?

The comic was fine until people whined and reported it. Then it had to be removed. He was banned for re-creating a deleted topic. Actually, this is explained very well in the OP post so...

[...0...]

 

 

And for the record, LL was banned from the Nexus pretty much from day one (when LL was founded after Wolflore closed its doors to sex mods) and that was long before "ported" material was in wide circulation.  They banned LL due to the sex mods (likely the creature sex parts).  That they or anyone else says otherwise is just misguided ignorance.

 

So very true. I truly believe that they aren't concerned with LL because of competition. This site as good as it is isn't the size to be in any way concerned with compared to Nexus. (Their view). They are concerned with the creature sex and other perversions that abound many threads here on this site.

 

I came and checked out this site from hints and banning from he nexus way before joining this site. At first I wasn't sure because of the graphic content. Content that can be far more intense and graphic then anything the Nexus has. It wasn't until I read many post and interactions where I realized that this is a great community with most of the members caring about each other and willing to help each other. Even at first I would only download and sample some of the "perversions' mostly to get a laugh because I was board of the game I was playing. I posted a few questions and answers to others following the examples of the "leaders" of the forums. Then I met more and more individuals through interactions and PM's and posted more and more as a result. It is the community that makes this Forum better than Nexus is. It is this Forum that inspires and helps develop many of the newer generation of modders not Nexus.

 

On another note: (forgive me from deviating from the OP)

It saddens me to see members calling other members Douche and dicks and other names publicly. This isn't only on this thread other threads are also suffering from this as well. Openly hostile and rude. Each time this occurs it brings this forum closer to the ranks of Nexus and harms the community that has developed here. It isn't necessary to be vile or cruel to get a point across and being vile or cruel only elicits emotional and often hostile responses. Clean clear counterarguments can be made for any comments without such language or actions being taken. Actions degrading to the point where members feel that they have to stoop to those levels have lost their argument right there and have done nothing but degrade into being a troll.

 

If a site starts to become infested with trolls there is only one solution and that entails becoming more and more like the Nexus. Tolerances will be smaller and easier to violate in order to keep control Eventually everybody looses site of the main purpose of the Forum/ site. Nexus has had this happen to them. It can happen here as well if we can't moderate our-self and our post and interactions with others.

 

WE are the community, we are what makes it good, we will ultimately be the ones responsible for destroying it as well.

 

 

Well said!

 

But everybody have its own set of moral rules and social skills some are offended easy some are not.

 

Its up to members and moderators to keep it civil and socially acceptable.

 

No need to be a douche we all come here becouse we love skyrim and its mods.

 

Few weeks ago there was guy talking shite about us here on forum(he prolly got banned never saw him again) i just ignore this kind of persons, if all do that there gone before you know it or moderator just ban them problem solved.

 

If you all starting to curse swear back we get topics full of uglyness and it maybe migrate slowly to other topics also, in the long run many think its normal reacting like that.

 

So ignore don't reply let moderators deal with them.

[deathparade]

That's why i like about this community wherein the Nexus you have this one mod that does all these different things wherin LL is framework > choose your package

And most of the community here is capable of having a conversation that don't involve stuff like "Your opinion is retarded because it's not mine" etc

[NexusCron]

 

 

They ban people on a regular basis for uploading IMAGES of content ported from one game to another.

When it is clearly illegally ported, of course. Or for the posters like Elewin who try an rub it in others noses? I expect strict rules and zero tolerance when its a 6 man mod team to handle 10,000+ regular users.

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

You have no idea why I was banned. The entire exchange took place via PMs. All you know is what they want you to from reading a 'banned page'. But I know what happened, the staff knows what happened, and the friends I sent copies of the PMs to know what happened. These are the same friends who are being put in the middle by THE NEXUS STAFF behind the silly things I say here.

 

I was banned because I stood up to the Nexus Staff concerning the way they treat certain members of that so-called community. I did it in a private setting so as NOT to incite others. I stood up for myself and others and dared to question the staff. And for that I was banned for 'harassing them'. If that makes me a douche, then I'll wear your Scarlet Letter with pride.

 

 

Ok, so feel free to send me said pm's. Cause what I see is a mod team that I have never seen be anything but professional vs someone who is still harassing them from a completely different site. You have seriously attacked them for 3 strait pages now, over something that happened months ago. Whether you were harassing them before or not, I do not know, but considering your actions now I have more than enough reason to believe them. There is a way to stand up for yourself and broach subjects without being a dick, which I have thus far seen no evidence that you know how to do. You are great at taking praise, but even on your previous mod pages you were short at best when it came to handling any kind of criticism or "dumb question".

 

 

Like I said, this is a thread about the bannings that go on at the nexus. Who the hell are you to say one way or the other what should or shouldn't be discussed here? Why is it such a big problem to YOU what others decide to discuss on this website? And just who are you to say ANYTHING needs to stop on this website? Do YOU own the Nexus? Are YOU a moderator at the Nexus? are you close friends of said parties? Why any discussion on this website should bother you to the point of trying to tell This website certain things need to stop is beyond any authority you may think you have. You do not own this website, you do not moderate this website. and the powers that be are the ONLY ones that will decide what does or doesn't get discussed here. Period. And the inability to mention LL on the Nexus has little to do with copyrighted material on this site, it has mostly to do with the type of content available here. but you can believe whatever the Nexus tells you if you like.

 

 

I am a part of this community pointing out that there is no good coming from this thread at this point. All you are doing is forming a mob and breeding more hate where there should be none.

 

Also, while I agree that there is certainly a segment of this community that is clearly unwelcome there, to think that its just the T&A crowd after how hardcore they are with anything even hinting at piracy is beyond irrational. But then, as you so clearly put in your own statement, Robyn has every right to decide who gets to play and in what way on his website. Which is fine. You follow his rules and you get to play with his toys. The fact that you find his rules "too harsh" and have decided to rebel instead of handle it like adults is the part I am getting at.

 

 

I assume this is also true for the Nexus Staff?  Or does it only apply to us?

 

Funny in a sad and very ironic way, we're not allowed to voice our opinions on Nexus, and now (by your standard) we're not allowed to voice them here either.  I had no idea the arm of Nexus was so very VERY long.

 

Such as? I have seen them unban people. I have talked to people who admitted they screwed up when they were banned and were unbanned. Where is this great list of injustice? I have asked plenty of "iffy" questions of the moderators, and every time I have been answered with nothing but respect. I have broached issues of "I am not sure this is appropriate for this site" even after they had allowed items to stay, all without any kind of negative impact. Why exactly do you think that is? I certainly do not feel like I have been oppressed. Do you really think I am just a brainwashed sheep as your post implies? I mean really?

 

 

...Calling someone a Dick and a Douche "IS" Stooping to the level of the Nexus, Any insistance that its not is flat out Denial.

Who are you to tell us what we can and cannot post, Your not the forum owner, your not the president, and your damn sure not someone who has any power in this forum at all.

 

LoversLab is about being civil, by god its in the name! So why are you insulting people, calling them names, and flat out attacking them?

[Hayleyrose2323]

Wish there was something we could do about Nexus but of course there is nothing. Oh well! Least we got LoversLab hehe

[Hal3023]

I can also only agree to the awesomeness of LL, as i am at the very beginnings of becoming a modder. E.g. when i had troubles with a framework mod not working correctly (out of a very simple reason: FNIS was outdatet), i wasn't called a dumb piece of °whatever you wanna call me°, but was treated with respect instead. 

[CoxcombCornking]

Without a doubt:

The greater majority of people getting banned in a forum / download site probably are jack asses, and ten-year-olds caught thieving other mod authors' work. Do we agree?

However:

Many of the "complaints" about certain threads or images, are just sock-puppetry done by a few poor moderators. No actual problem existed until they made it into one. It should always be considered suspicious when no real evidence is given other than a moderator saying it happened. No examples of complaints, negative posts, etc. This is what you get when tiny unimaginative subhumans are given even the slightest fraction of power in any situation.

It doesn't hurt that the "Big Banner On Campus" at that place is obviously a -ahem- "Prancing Twilight Enthusiast", either.

 

 

 

 

editski: just a typo.

[Misplaced Reality]

Without a doubt:

The greater majority of people getting banned in a forum / download site probably are jack asses, and ten-year-olds caught thieving other mod authors' work. Do we agree?

 

Depends on what you call thieving. If there's derivative mod where a good amount of effort was put into it and credits are given to the original author of a mod used/included then do you think the original author of the used/included mod has any rights to call the shots on the derivative mod?

[Captain Cobra]

The current climate and attitude of modders would dictate yes.

[Misplaced Reality]

The current climate and attitude of modders would dictate yes.

 

I think the current climate is toxic due to the few spoiling the bunch--I don't see how a modder should chase down anyone who uses their work and gives proper credit and dictate how such work is used. Do they have the false impression that they reserve 100% of the proprietary rights? (That are usually taken by the developer/publisher of the game as of typical from the user agreement)

 

It's completely different to show that you developed a mod, and it's another matter to use your work to oppress others creativity. And it's even worse when this kind of behaviour is accepted as the "proper" one.

[Captain Cobra]

 

I think the current climate is toxic due to the few spoiling the bunch--I don't see how a modder should chase down anyone who uses their work and gives proper credit and dictate how such work is used. Do they have the false impression that they reserve 100% of the proprietary rights? (That are usually taken by the developer/publisher of the game as of typical from the user agreement)

 

 

It's completely different to show that you developed a mod, and it's another matter to use your work to oppress others.

 

 

You can thank the term "entitlement", and all of the shit that it brings up every time it's said, for all of that.

[Misplaced Reality]

 

You can thank the term "entitlement", and all of the shit that it brings up every time it's said, for all of that.

 

 

I think the proper solution would be to support the open use of mods as long respective credits are properly given to the original authors involved, and that original authors shouldn't be able to dictate whether a derivative mod can be brought down unless there's a real issue, such as not citing the original work used, or that the mod is monetized. Because, the main issue I have seen in some cases throughout my time with Skyrim mods was that it is dodgy to get "permission" and then that "permission" can be taken away, if permission is granted once it is final as long the author's stated permissions are respected.

 

Maybe I should write down my idea and share it with everyone, see if it works.

[unscwupulous]

There's only two ways to look at this, one, being that if an author says "X", then you 'respect' their wishes and two, where you just say "nope, I don't care that you made it, I'm grateful and all but I'm going to do what I want with it".  The bogus justifications to avoid saying number two can always be found, but they're still bogus.

 

I had this argument years ago after OB launched and I altered a mod and the author told me to delete some screenies I posted on a small site - I just said "sorry, but nope"

Didn't see the point in fabricating grandiose arguments.

[mojodajojo]

I am banned from Nexus...meh.  Funny thing is, when Dante banned me he also deleted ALL of my mods.  I didn't request that, he just did it.  He even bragged that he was going to do it.  In one punitive (and very petty, IMO) move he deleted about 35 mod pages and literally MILLIONS of posts and endorsements.  He also scuttled every mod on Nexus that required my files.  Ironically, I wasn't going to request my files be removed.  I was going to leave them in place and I had given file admin access to two other members so they could continue to provide support in the event I ever left Nexus (did that about a year ago).  What really sucks balls is Dante deleted the Official Type3 Release for New Vegas.  I didn't author that, dimon99 and Backsteppo did.  All I did was upload it, provide mod support and bring the REAL Type3 to New Vegas players.

 

ANYWAY...If I owned a forum and a staff member deleted the amount of content Dante did, he wouldn't be on the staff after that. I'd probably ban HIM for sabotaging my forum.

 

Oh yeah, every member of the Nexus staff and Dark0ne violated the TOS we all agreed to in Oct 2006.  Dark0ne has changed the TOS so many times since then I guess they all forgot that WE (the staff and ME) agreed that it is OKAY TO STAND UP TO THEM...'the staff are not golden icons and can be disagreed with, etc.'  That was what the TOS WE agreed to in 2006 said.

 

OH WELL... 

I pretty much kiss ass whatever site I'm on and try to stay out of trouble.  I figure the mod's and/or site owners can get their rocks off however they see fit and that's fine by me. However, Dante deleting all your files was a pretty big douche move.  He must have some authoritarian personality issues.

[Misplaced Reality]

There's only two ways to look at this, one, being that if an author says "X", then you 'respect' their wishes and two, where you just say "nope, I don't care that you made it, I'm grateful and all but I'm going to do what I want with it".  The bogus justifications to avoid saying number two can always be found, but they're still bogus.

 

I had this argument years ago after OB launched and I altered a mod and the author told me to delete some screenies I posted on a small site - I just said "sorry, but nope"

Didn't see the point in fabricating grandiose arguments.

 

Right now, I am thinking about writing a license that should cover any mod that includes it. I will work out the details and then make a version for peers to review, and hopefully other modders might accept that it is a good idea. But this is all speculation.

[D_ManXX2]

 

Without a doubt:

The greater majority of people getting banned in a forum / download site probably are jack asses, and ten-year-olds caught thieving other mod authors' work. Do we agree?

 

Depends on what you call thieving. If there's derivative mod where a good amount of effort was put into it and credits are given to the original author of a mod used/included then do you think the original author of the used/included mod has any rights to call the shots on the derivative mod?

 

 

But that is the entire point. can you imagine someone work really hard on blender. makes stuff from the ground up and some thief comes along and says hey nice mesh i am sure you would not mind me taking this and then just puts his name only on the credits part. then when someone reports this person and original creator comes along sees this that is why they place in the credits no upload or include in other mods.

 

if this part is clear and someone will still put the part in their mods then that is thieving. And that is happening allot on nexus these days that is why there are so many banned for stealing.

[Rayblue]

@Kendo 2: if the milk-drinkers don't want you and your creations there for capricious reasons, I think you're welcome to have your mods hosted here at LL.