Sexlab Survival

[Corsayr]

42 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

It would make sense to be able to break Nini non-slooty versions into slooty or broken versions on purpose, at a force - it's the same mechanic, used a little differently.

 

The main problem with NINI is the slooty versions are paywalled (yes I know Sun has a full remake that has all of them, but that is basically a bootleg and was made without the permission of NINI.)

 

Also just an FYI I made a mod for LE that breaks NINI outfits into broken NINI outfits... Just saying... They don't break on purpose of course... ? But but the do break ?

 

 

Longer drama version

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Sun believes that NINI should not have exclusive IP rights to the outfits and paywall them because they simply took them from Bless, and NINI position (I guess) is that Sun could go and import those assets herself and not take his work... 

 

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Corsayr said:

Also just an FYI I made a mod for LE that breaks NINI outfits into broken NINI outfits...

Yes. I know. I'm hoping you'll do this forge break down thing too  

 

The "all in one" has the slooty and broken versions for the items that are in it.

It never occurred to me that it might not be "authorized", or that the Sun version wasn't either.

(And that can be converted back to LE without too much trouble I would have imagined?)

 

I haven't seen any discussion around the permission topic.

[Aki K]

I've encountered an issue. My Solitude home was evicted from me. The debug shows no reason and the unevict debug option has done nothing. I purchased a perpetual property license days ago but solitude's house still has not unlocked.

 

In addition, a similar thing happened in windhelm, but I didn't even own the house yet (blood on the ice quest) and there was no way to get inside to do the quest.

 

Is there a more forceful way to unevict houses?

[Monoman1]

 

6 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

It would make sense to be able to break Nini non-slooty versions into slooty or broken versions on purpose, at a force - it's the same mechanic, used a little differently.

Ah ok. I see now. 

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

They shouldn't have taken anything though, as the config is PLAYER CENTRIC.

A lot of this I think just comes back to not being able to divine the purpose of every piece of equipment. If it's not equipped then it's considered fair game with player centric. I'm guessing you have 'follower hands back contraband' off. 

 

Adding some kind of exception checking that a follower has both melee weapon and ranged and ammunition is going to be pretty tricky and probably add significant processing. Not to talk about determining if your follower is an actual fighter and not just a mage.....

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

If I gave her replacement items via normal inventory transfer, enforcers immediately ran up and took the items again.

Mmm, might be a timing thing. Was the object equipped before the check was made...? Kind of hard to know but IIRC a check should only be fired when the menu is closed. Stops firing a load of redundant checks. 

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

If I put items on her directly with additem, enforcers didn't notice.

IIRC checking is monitored only when you activate a follower and the inventory menu is closed. 

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Another issue was with the magic curse.

There are no hands textures in SLS. That option is for people wanting to use custom textures for the bikini curse. 

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Am I missing a texture? Or should it be so pink?

It's pretty pink. To match the color of the stock magic curse tat. 

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I'd then get a message about being unable to wear two sets of nipple piercings!

(Yes, PC was already wearing nipple piercings).

But no collar was fitted.

This is odd. AFAIR there are no cursed nipple piercings. I could be wrong here but I think it's only and in this exact order: collar, arm cuffs, leg cuffs. After that it just gives up and does the magic tat only thing. 

 

[Monoman1]

5 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I haven't seen any discussion around the permission topic.

Technically, SLS doesn't require any assets. It's part of the beauty. I've added assets myself for TAWoBA because: 

1. open permission

2. I could create bikini mashups to display in the crafting menu.

 

But SLS is just creating a MiscObject 'token'. You can change the model path of this misc object to whatever you want.....

Of course if the armor mod is not installed then you get the ! triangle mesh thing BUT

Should the mod in question not be installed then it's source armor won't be available so it won't ever show in the crafting menu anyway

 

Currently there are 2 ways of adding recipes. Built in and custom. I've detailed these a little on the features page (not finalized yet). But I'm thinking there's a place for a 3rd way that's a hybrid between the 2 that would be mostly 'built in' but with a tiny bit of custom which I think would reduce load game maintenance to 1 papyrus line per COBJ per game session (on first load only). 

 

Should anyone be interested in creating a pack I'd try to integrate it. I just need to finalize the system first. 

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, Aki K said:

I've encountered an issue. My Solitude home was evicted from me. The debug shows no reason and the unevict debug option has done nothing. I purchased a perpetual property license days ago but solitude's house still has not unlocked.

 

In addition, a similar thing happened in windhelm, but I didn't even own the house yet (blood on the ice quest) and there was no way to get inside to do the quest.

 

Is there a more forceful way to unevict houses?

Please check on the mcm stats page:

You are flagged as having a valid property licence. If not run debug function recheck licence status in the wheel menu. 

You have no bounty in the hold. Clear your bounty

You are not flagged as evicted. 

 

Also check Misc -> Debug -> mod events -> evict -> eviction forms. Should be None. Otherwise an external mod is evicting you. 

 

There's a known issue with windhelm with getting the key before owning the house. 

[shiagwen]

10 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I'd guess that the girls would need to be in the ZazSlaveFaction but I don't know for sure. 

you are right. the slave servant from slaverun in bannered mare has this faction. oho that would mean that cursed loot would require zaz. kimy would rage

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

you are right. the slave servant from slaverun in bannered mare has this faction. oho that would mean that cursed loot would require zaz. kimy would rage

No she can do it dynamically via script if she's bothered. 

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

Also, there's not much point being assigned a disarmed escort is there?

Nuke system because arrows. Gotcha

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

But seriously, if you want to create a system where the follower never gets items taken that weren't given by the player, by all means, go down that route instead.

Maybe

If wornhaskeyword(bow)

EquipArrows()

EndIf

DoLicenceCheck()

 

I dunno. An option to gimp the entire system because of what's essentially a bethesda problem is a bit annoying :S

But some people would probably still prefer the option. The whole licence system is creaking at the seams with options. Makes me not want to deal with it. 

[Monoman1]

3 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Follower refuses contraband fixes this almost completely already.

No. It doesn't I'm afraid. Handing stuff back fires a full search I'm nearly sure. Look I'm pretty overwhelmed right now.

 

Priorities: 

1. Fix my LE install or migrate to SE. 

2. If step 1 is never done then ponder why I'm working on mods I'll never use. Sure as hell ain't for the fun of it. And I wasn't exactly massively motivated to play skyrim to begin with.... So..... Retire? 

3. If I mange to overcome 2 then finish current update and push it out. 

4. Fix serious game breaking issues in MA. 

5. ?????

 

See the problem?

[Aki K]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Please check on the mcm stats page:

You are flagged as having a valid property licence. If not run debug function recheck licence status in the wheel menu. 

You have no bounty in the hold. Clear your bounty

You are not flagged as evicted. 

 

Also check Misc -> Debug -> mod events -> evict -> eviction forms. Should be None. Otherwise an external mod is evicting you. 

 

There's a known issue with windhelm with getting the key before owning the house. 

I will try the recheck license function. There is no bounty.

I did check misc debug mod events evict. It said none but my solitude house was still boarded up with no notice on the door.

 

Edit: Did not work. I still does not give a reason and the text only lifted the eviction on the whiterun and windhelm house. (Which suggests my markarth and riften houses are likewise broken). My Solitude house seems to be stuck with a permanent eviction now.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Aki K said:

I will try the recheck license function. There is no bounty.

I did check misc debug mod events evict. It said none but my solitude house was still boarded up with no notice on the door.

 

Edit: Did not work. I still does not give a reason and the text only lifted the eviction on the whiterun and windhelm house. (Which suggests my markarth and riften houses are likewise broken). My Solitude house seems to be stuck with a permanent eviction now.

'Eviction reasons' is only for outside mods. 

 

Can I get screenshots please of the requested information from the stats page. Bounty, valid licence flags, eviction status.

Plus screenshots of 'sqv _SLS_Eviction'

You'll probably have to pgup to capture all of it. 

[Aki K]

13 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

'Eviction reasons' is only for outside mods. 

 

Can I get screenshots please of the requested information from the stats page. Bounty, valid licence flags, eviction status.

Plus screenshots of 'sqv _SLS_Eviction'

You'll probably have to pgup to capture all of it. 

I will try to do both.

 

However something really unusual just happened so I need to load a later save. The entire mod just broke in my file. My character's mouth opened and will not close even with the debug menu (I would recommend making the close mouth and open mouth separate options in the debug menu) I also have ahegao and open mouth disabled because it kepts breaking like this. So not sure what caused this.

 

Also, either the license check or some change caused my armors to randomly get confiscated even though that license was still valid and new. Just random confiscation. So i have to load an older save and go back a bit. I'm sure the glitch will still be present but the solutions I've tried, probably not.

[Aki K]

I didn't know where or how to find the sqv thing. If it was a console command it did not work. If it was in the MCM or a data folder outside the game I did not find it.

 

Some odd things I noticed in the stats and info page: 1. It says I am not a thane in any hold. I am a thane in more than half (if not all) holds. I didn't do the civil war so exception for holds that require the civil war to occur like Windhelm.

 

It also says I am evicted in white run and windhelm, but not evicted in solitude. Which cannot be further from the truth. I can access whiterun and windhelm homes now, but cannot access solitude.

 

EDIT: For some reason if I willingly let my property license expire, the guard checks my armor license (which is valid) says it is good, but confiscates my armor. When I go to retrieve my armor, after a loading screen, my character's mouth start opens and stays that way forever. I think the mod completely broke down in this file. Nothing makes sense.

 

Edit 2: Figured out the open mouth issue. Apparently it can still occur if the character is daydreaming at high arousal level, even if ahegao is disabled but only while talking to men. If it gets stuck and the open/close mouth debug doesn't work, I can use the vibration debug as a workaround.

 

Other things I noticed, certain parts of my settings seem to have changed themselves. The arousal for daydreaming is set to 101, but it still occurs.

 

Covering myself was enabled despite me having disabled it.

 

Sometimes the covering mechanic in the wheel menu breaks and I cannot click on it anymore "Forever" in whichever save file it broke in.

 

Still no idea why my armor gets confiscated when only my property license expires but it can be recovered by visiting the license agent without having to buy a new one. Also they only confiscated half of my armor? Not sure what the deal is, but only certain types were confiscated even though my armor license was 100% valid and only my property license expired.

 

No matter what happens, whiterun and windhelm homes are open even though the stats say I am evicted in the. Solitude home remains closed even though the stats say I am not evicted. I tried discarding my license to force proper evictions and then buying a new one, to no avail.

 

Not sure what the deal is, but maybe I should just delete this file and start fresh. I just don't want this to become a regular issue of having to delete and restart every time this mod breaks. or uninstall reinstall the mod if that's a workable option, would be almost as equally an annoying fix.

 

 

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[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Aki K said:

EDIT: For some reason if I willingly let my property license expire, the guard checks my armor license (which is valid) says it is good, but confiscates my armor. When I go to retrieve my armor, after a loading screen, my character's mouth start opens and stays that way forever. I think the mod completely broke down in this file. Nothing makes sense.

Sounds pretty messed up. Might be best to just clean save at this point. 

You'll have to get the IDs of the doors and enable them via console again though. 

[Herowynne]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

1. Fix my LE install or migrate to SE. 

2. If step 1 is never done then ponder why I'm working on mods I'll never use. Sure as hell ain't for the fun of it. And I wasn't exactly massively motivated to play skyrim to begin with.... So..... Retire? 

 

Well, I consider Sexlab Survival and Spank That Ass to be essential mods, so my vote is definitely for step 1, not for the retire option.

 

@Monoman1 You are doing the work of the Divines (and probably several Daedric princes too). Please keep going!

[Corsayr]

13 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I made a new testing game last night, and naturally, SLS is in the LO.

 

I noticed some odd behaviors, which do not feel ... correct ... to me

 

I had the default configuration of PLAYER CENTRIC licenses.

 

Enforcers took my DF's melee weapons and arrows, leaving her with only a bow and no ammunition.

She wasn't very useful after that!

They shouldn't have taken anything though, as the config is PLAYER CENTRIC.

• If I gave her replacement items via normal inventory transfer, enforcers immediately ran up and took the items again.
• If I put items on her directly with additem, enforcers didn't notice.

 

 

From an immersion stand point is sounds suspiciously like it is working as intended. ?

 

You are initially scoffed at for suggesting your escort could also be a woman. 

[Xiaron]

8 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I'm mindful of this being problematic to solve, but not solving it somehow makes the feature very troublesome for anyone who relies on followers.

I kind of have to give up on weapon licenses and disable them, because a helpless PC being protected by a helpless follower is a recipe for dying to a handful of baby spiders, and certainly it's not what I configured.

I didn't think it was possible to disable weapon licenses? At least I haven't been able to figure out how without turning the whole system off.

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Forget I even mentioned it. I'll delete my posts.

Look if you really want it I'll do it for you. Just not right now.

 

If modding was surgery (which it isn't) and SLS was a patient and I was the surgeon I'd be up to my elbows in intestine and brain matter. But I'm still in the rec room watching TV such is my disinterest in Skyrim. I'm not opening up yet another area right now. I've too many things half done as it is. I'm not adding any more this update. Unless it's a minor request or or bug fix. 

 

I've intended to return to the licence system anyway to try to make it a single sweep through your inventory instead of multiple. 

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, Xiaron said:

I didn't think it was possible to disable weapon licenses? At least I haven't been able to figure out how without turning the whole system off.

You can't. Don't ask

[shiagwen]

Sorry to hear your disinterest about skyrim, prefer to watch tv.  so i think i dont need to talk about strange things that ruined my last very short game attempt. and hey, i just need the cum addiction in your mod, everything else is disabled, i will stay with 5.91,  had not such problems with it.

 

all the newest versions of actual mods do not bring any interesting game content, but do worse. cursed loot with ropes and furnitures , which finally stop the movement ( oh im trapped on a furnitures, how can i come down again ?  how silly is this. dd 5.1 doing just that. pop require that dd 5.1 furnitures, without doing anything with it. lola sweeping the room clean, devious followers busy with endless bugfixes.  confabulations out of ideas and dont like mine ( doing the bounty quests with sex).  maybe i can understand your desinterest, but i get quite a good game with older versions, i dont need the newest ones.

 

i dont see any alternative. looking at the games in steam shop makes me disbelieve in humanity. i havent watch tv since star trek next generation in the early 90s. and i never will do again. it is brainwashing only.

 

your cum bottles are the best perverted idea i have ever seen, unluckily they appear in the bugged newer versions.

[Herowynne]

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

all the newest versions of actual mods do not bring any interesting game content, but do worse

 

Wow, so much negativity packed into one post!

 

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

pop require that dd 5.1 furnitures

 

The most recent version of POP, which is POP 4.61, works with DD 4.x and later, and certainly does not require DD 5.1 and does not use any DD 5.x furniture.

 

POP uses Zaz furniture.

 

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

lola sweeping the room clean

 

I think it is great that @HexBolt8 keeps adding new events to SubLola. That keeps the mod fresh and interesting for new playthroughs.

 

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

devious followers busy with endless bugfixes

 

I really appreciate @Lupine00 working hard to fix many of the longstanding problems in DF that were left over from the previous mod author/custodian.

[aim4it]

On 3/6/2021 at 11:57 AM, Black714 said:

You Should Try ENB Too.

They Separate Skyrim.Exe and DX9 Process Into 2 Process.

That' Really Help Boost The Performance, Reduced Bottle Neck, And Reduced Memory Usage.

Umm no, DX9 is not a separate process its an API. the game makes API calls to make the OS do things.  The host process it creates its just for holding textures, meshes, etc. so the game client doesn't crash when those assets exceed the 32bit process user-addressable space limitation.

[Lupine00]

2 hours ago, Herowynne said:

I think it is great that @HexBolt8 keeps adding new events to SubLola. That keeps the mod fresh and interesting for new playthroughs.

@HexBolt8 is constantly over-delivering on SLTR. It's a standout at the moment. I hope they are able to sustain the enthusiasm and not get dragged down by posts like the one above. I won't say more about that mod because it's the SLS forum, not the SLTR one...

 

I think if you look carefully at what @shiagwen is saying, it's just sympathy for those disheartened by Skyrim right now. They are frustrated by where their game is at, and they're bored of the mods they have, and lost in a nostalgia for a time when it was new and they forgave all the bugs. I don't think the intent was really to hate on mod authors. But I'm sure I'll be corrected...

 

If I have to disable my entire license system to stop SLS messing up my followers ... that's not new ... I've been doing it since it was introduced. There's still lots of value in SLS without that, and there are plenty of other features in SLS, and also other mods, that will help eat all your cash or cause misery for your PC.

 

Also, if you don't have a follower, the current license behaviors are probably fine nearly all of the time (which is as often as anything ever works in Skyrim).

 

But in terms of new vs old, the current incarnation of the license system is obviously way better than when it was first introduced.