Sexlab Survival

[Pinute]

15 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I guess a lot of it is a personal thing. Putting my current problems with skyrim aside for a moment. As a Modder if I have an idea for something then I'll want to see it in game asap. So I work on developing it and basically don't play skyrim until its done. Its not long before the next idea comes along and I want to see that in game. So another period of not playing the game. The ratio of modding to actual play has to be at least 10:1 if not vastly higher. So eventually you'll ask yourself some hard questions. Most pertinent being "why exactly am I doing this?"

 

Because you have a fertile imagination and the skills to put it into the game? Maybe you define 3.0 as what you really want or can do easily, release it, sorta promise to do only .0.1 bug fixes and try to go have some fun (persuasive voice for coders, seldom effective).

 

Jbezorg once complained that he seldom got past level 10 while working on SD, and threatened to stop working just to play the game. I seem to remember him tying up some loose ends and doing that for a while.

 

At least, whichever way he went, he didn't first have to make the choice between building a different release or somehow fixing a broken install.

[shiagwen]

7 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

 

It's not that mods are getting worse. Mods are getting better. But if you played this for ten years, you are going to be struggling to see anything fresh.

 

 

itis not only about 10 years old mods, i meant this more about maybe one y<ear old versions and versions that came up in last time. for example your devious follower . lets take a detail.

fresh game, newest version of df .  what  happens already after one hour gameplay ? i cant talk to any npc anymore because : 

" your follower interrupts and convince them to fuck  her slave"  sexscene following. try to talk to the npc afterwards. just the same happens. try to talk tro someone else, just the same happens. game over.

this did not happen in some versions before.

 

 Thats what i mean with rew mods versions and unplayability. if not in content ,.then in technique. 

 

in content  :  i play cursed loot 8.4 because in 8.5 rope came in and i dont like it. that is a mattrer of taste, but there is no option to disable it. you have to take it or leave the mod. not to talk about the useless furnitures in  dd5 and cl 9.  oh i am trapped in a furnitre. how can i come down from this ?  is that all kimy has to offer for furniture. look at maria eden or Billy what they offer (ed) with furnitures..

 

btw manoman :  why does Delphine take 100 onehundred gold for a night in sleeping giant ? in a fresh one hour old game ?  i didnt had survival installed in that game, deinstalled skyrim with everything  and my documents before. a clean new game. maybe someone knows this miracle. i dont know any new mod or version in my game that could cause this.  but it is new.

[Corsayr]

23 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

btw manoman :  why does Delphine take 100 onehundred gold for a night in sleeping giant ? in a fresh one hour old game ?  i didnt had survival installed in that game, deinstalled skyrim with everything  and my documents before. a clean new game. maybe someone knows this miracle. i dont know any new mod or version in my game that could cause this.  but it is new.

 

Do you have Devious Followers installed?

 

 

If not you can go into xEdit and find the Room cost global in Skyrim.esm and check what is overwriting it (But 100g even sounds like DF)

Spoiler

 

[shiagwen]

47 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

 

Do you have Devious Followers installed?

 

 

If not you can go into xEdit and find the Room cost global in Skyrim.esm and check what is overwriting it (But 100g even sounds like DF)

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yes, i got df, but i didnt saw anything about room prices. what to do ?

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

As a Modder if I have an idea for something then I'll want to see it in game asap. So I work on developing it and basically don't play skyrim until its done. Its not long before the next idea comes along and I want to see that in game. So another period of not playing the game. The ratio of modding to actual play has to be at least 10:1 if not vastly higher.

Exactly this.  This is my life.  The ratio of time building versus time playing is crazy high.  Eventually, you have to take time to play the game, enjoy the fruits of your efforts, and experience first hand how your content is working.  It keeps a mod developer grounded.  It's very, very unfortunate that your game isn't working now.  I really hope that you can resolve the problem, roll back, reinstall, or whatever it takes.  As a major content producer, if you were to decide to move on, it would be quite a loss.

[Corsayr]

24 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

yes, i got df, but i didnt saw anything about room prices. what to do ?

 

It is just an old left over feature from a long time ago, there is no MCM option for it. The only way* to get rid of it is to fix it in xEdit

 

 

*Not the only way, there are other ways. But the only 'good' way. ?

 

[shiagwen]

1 hour ago, Corsayr said:

 

It is just an old left over feature from a long time ago, there is no MCM option for it. The only way* to get rid of it is to fix it in xEdit

 

 

*Not the only way, there are other ways. But the only 'good' way. ?

 

i see another way  :  DEINSTALL

[Corsayr]

2 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

i see another way  :  DEINSTALL

 

Seems a tad extreme. But your game your rules. ?

[shiagwen]

4 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

 

Seems a tad extreme. But your game your rules. ?

it is not the only bug. actual the dialogue interrupter ist the much bigger one.

[Monoman1]

3 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

it is not the only bug. actual the dialogue interrupter ist the much bigger one.

So disable the slut deal. 

You can press a button right?

[shiagwen]

46 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

So disable the slut deal. 

You can press a button right?

what slut deal ?

Ah i remember what you mean. you mean the i am a slut deal. no it isnt that easy. i havent made any deal yet. the interrupter comes when you want talk to an npc, but the answer doesnt come. instead this comes :

your follower convinced them to fuck her slave

and a sexscene starts. good idea. problem : no cooldown. this interrupter comes always,. ALWAYS !

i found that sentence in the translator, it is defintely DF, but i didnt found it in the ck.

i am tired of those buggy mods, it hasnt been in the earlier version i played last time. deintall and forget it.

btw i did the same with survival, the cum adiction wasnt worth all the scripts, the toll agents, the interfewrence with all the other features. as said before, i would love to have the cum addiction solo.

[Lupine00]

3 hours ago, shiagwen said:

this did not happen in some versions before.

This is not the forum to have this discussion. You are factually incorrect about the historical behavior, and other things besides, but why are you raising your DFC issues here? That's just annoying for SLS users who are already complaining about this thread. There is a DFC forum for you to do this.

[Lupine00]

2 hours ago, shiagwen said:

yes, i got df, but i didnt saw anything about room prices. what to do ?

Room price is a vanilla global, you can just set it from the console unless a mod is overwriting it in script dynamically, which DFC does not do.

[Dweny]

The animation is not applied when I use "cover self" only the facial expression is applied, but the animation does not.  On the other hand, if I activate that option in Cursed Loot, there it works.  I don't know what the problem is.
 

Do this also happen to someone else?

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Dweny said:

The animation is not applied when I use "cover self" only the facial expression is applied, but the animation does not.  On the other hand, if I activate that option in Cursed Loot, there it works.  I don't know what the problem is.
 

Do this also happen to someone else?

Did you rerun fnis?

[Dweny]

11 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Did you rerun fnis?

Yes, I actually started a new game again and it keeps happening.
 

Also disable the same option in Cursed Loot.

[Monoman1]

11 hours ago, Dweny said:

Yes, I actually started a new game again and it keeps happening.
 

Also disable the same option in Cursed Loot.

Hmm. I dunno then. 

SLS uses a different animation file \meshes\actors\character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_ZaZCoverSelf.HKX

 

I guess you could try copying DCLs cover animation and rename it. But I don't think that's the problem. It's got something to do with fnis I'd imagine. 

Do other animations from SLS work like the 'beg for cock' in the wheel menu?

[Dweny]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Hmm. I dunno then. 

SLS uses a different animation file \meshes\actors\character\animations\SL_Survival\SLS_ZaZCoverSelf.HKX

 

I guess you could try copying DCLs cover animation and rename it. But I don't think that's the problem. It's got something to do with fnis I'd imagine. 

Do other animations from SLS work like the 'beg for cock' in the wheel menu?

Well you won't believe me, but I did the first thing you tell, I took the cursed loot animation and renamed it with the original one, I ran FNIS again and the animation already works. (Before it didn't work even using FNIS)

I guess there was some kind of conflict between those two animations

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Dweny said:

Well you won't believe me, but I did the first thing you tell, I took the cursed loot animation and renamed it with the original one, I ran FNIS again and the animation already works. (Before it didn't work even using FNIS)

I guess there was some kind of conflict between those two animations

Skyrim. :Shrugs:

But I actually recommend swapping out the zaz animation for the DCL one as it reduces the footstep sound bug. 

[Dweny]

By the way, I don't know if it's a bug or what, but traders keep showing me the vanilla "trade" option. In the same way, the mod option is shown. I guess it should just show the mod option, right?

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, Dweny said:

By the way, I don't know if it's a bug or what, but traders keep showing me the vanilla "trade" option. In the same way, the mod option is shown. I guess it should just show the mod option, right?

Nah it's normal. 

Removing the regular buy stuff dialogue wouldn't be good for compatibility. So instead you're turfed out of the menu when buying/selling something you shouldn't via the normal dialogue. 

 

Whereas the other dialogue will allow you to buy/sell anything but at a serious penalty. 

[shiagwen]

Ifyou get devices from the toll, you always get a rope harness, always. never a leather harness , an ebony one or a restrictive corset or no harness at all.  why always a rope harness ?

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Ifyou get devices from the toll, you always get a rope harness, always. never a leather harness , an ebony one or a restrictive corset or no harness at all.  why always a rope harness ?

Remove all rope harnesses from DeviceList.json. 

[shiagwen]

14 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Remove all rope harnesses from DeviceList.json. 

Haha funny, no you cant be serious. there is a device.list json in skse data. you mean this ? there are only references to ddx with a number in front. you mean i shall search somewhere in ddx the rope itrems, notice their number and look for the number in that devicelist and delete it ?  i have no idea where in ddx this number shall be, maybe in ck items ?

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

Haha funny, no you cant be serious. there is a device.list json in skse data. you mean this ? there are only references to ddx with a number in front. you mean i shall search somewhere in ddx the rope itrems, notice their number and look for the number in that devicelist and delete it ?  i have no idea where in ddx this number shall be, maybe in ck items ?

Nope. Deadly serious. If you want to customize DDs for SLS you modify DeviceList.json. Add/remove the devices you want. And run Device Patchup in the mcm.

There's a guide along with a device spreadsheet for this in post #2 of this thread. 

 

Don't forget to save your json between updates.