Sexlab Survival

[Monoman1]

9 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

It's a breakable armor system, that tracks every slot on both the PC and NPCs 

Sounds familiar. 

*Sniffles*

[Corsayr]

1 minute ago, Monoman1 said:

Sounds familiar. 

*Sniffles*

it doesn't have a fitting system to enforce outfit size restrictions... there was only one mod that did that... 

 

Yoda: no there is another

Me: Shut up Yoda, there totally wasn't you are wrong! There is only one!

[donttouchmethere]

Beta 0.595

Sticking tongue out: Does it only work if SLSO is installed or isn't it added yet?

[Monoman1]

5 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Beta 0.595

Sticking tongue out: Does it only work if SLSO is installed or isn't it added yet?

Mmm no it works. Or should. Why. What's happening?

[donttouchmethere]

6 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Mmm no it works. Or should. Why. What's happening?

I go thru all wheel options atm, and most work (nearly all), pretty cool stuff (and scary depending on the facial expression mod lol), but I can't choose the "Stick out tongue" option in wheel menu.

 

Spoiler

Should have chosen "cover self" instead ^^

 

[Monoman1]

10 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I go thru all wheel options atm, and most work (nearly all), pretty cool stuff (and scary depending on the facial expression mod lol), but I can't choose the "Stick out tongue" option in wheel menu.

 

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Should have chosen "cover self" instead ^^

 

What do you normally do before you stick out your tongue?

 

Spoiler

You open your mouth

It's a bit laborious. I might change it. 

[donttouchmethere]

26 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

What do you normally do before you stick out your tongue?

Makes sense, I thought I tried that ?

I will be back ?

 

edit:

open mouth works => but "Stick out tongue" can't be chosen. Either hidden requirement (SLSO) or conflict in LO (but no file overwrites)

Cover self can't be chosen either, but I also don't have DCL installed

 

Still one more thing to try, I just saw that I have a modified head botox head with different mouth nif, still that wouldn't explain why I can't even choose the option in the wheel menu.

[Monoman1]

31 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

edit:

Only condition on sticking out your tongue option being available is:

sslBaseExpression.IsMouthOpen(PlayerRef))

 

This is the sexlab function to check is your mouth open. Never had any problems with it myself. When you open your mouth the wheel should change to 'Close Mouth'. Does that happen?

 

'Cover myself' needs DCLs cover animation. So it's probably checking for the animation file. 

[donttouchmethere]

 

39 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

When you open your mouth the wheel should change to 'Close Mouth'. Does that happen?

No, that doesn't happen.

It gets even more odd, now instead of opening her mouth my PC has an angry look on her face. I guess she gets annoyed by me ?

 

Spoiler

Just playing around...

 

 

 

 

Need to test something else then. ?

 

 

EDIT:

WORKS!

Kziitd's gag scripts are conflicting, even if SL and PC mouth files are not overwritten.

[Lupine00]

8 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Sounds familiar. 

*Sniffles*

But you're the one who gave up on MWA  

We are still loyal disciples, waiting for the second coming.

[Sospice]

12 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

 

I wouldn't say so. 

How is this freecam different from tfc? I'd imagine it's exactly the same thing. Maybe with slightly different speed. Personally I've never had any problem with just hitting 3 on the numpad. 

Indeed!

Can not be unseen. 

I think it might be specific to using a controller. For some reason, using the tfc console command occasionally causes the ability to change perspective to break. I just noticed that doing it through the UI wheel from that mod, that never happens. 

So I'm not sure what the mod  creator did that could make a difference. I'll try asking them and see if they respond. 

[Monoman1]

10 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

But you're the one who gave up on MWA

I still use it 

[Lupine00]

A guard invited me to spend a night at the kennel, and as those invitations should not be refused, I complied without protest...

 

A handful of oddities arose during my stay:

 

The guard decided to accost me while I was in stocks, being punished by Bondage Furniture World.

This resulted to me being transferred to the kennels while my controls were still disabled.

 

Having resolved that little problem, I resolved to spend the night as comfortably as possible.

I was cheered to discover the plentiful supply of friendly animals, all ready to supply me with a delicious meal.

Alas, the other occupants were less interesting to communicate with than the dogs and horses, as it transpired.

 

The unfortunate choice of a straight-jacket-hobble-dress as my evening-wear did limit the range of sexual activities possible without ... strange visual experiences.

 

This restrictive dress also appeared to be classed as armor for purposes of sleeping ... despite offering rather little in terms of armor value.

The sleep penalty was only 9% though.

 

On leaving, the kennel-keeper didn't remove all the items that he had added, but did, for reasons I'm unclear on, decide to take all my food, water and alcohol.

 

 

It seemed a little strange that I was the only one of the occupants garbed in such elaborate leather-work.

Perhaps the kennel keeper felt a need to honor my special status as a Thane of the town?

 

 

Just a thought, why not limit the binding of the PC to items that don't have such an impact on animation selection?

It only exists to serve a decorative purpose anyway, so it would (in some ways) be just as effective to leave the PC almost completely naked, like the "Desperate Women".

 

Then, the kennel-keeper's habit of adding items through the night would have more impact, instead of piling on items that end up being hidden, or conflict horribly.

 

For example, SLS added an elaborate rope binding over the straight-jacket-hobble-dress.

As I don't use the device hider, it was a mess.

Had I used the hider, it would have been invisible.

 

The non-return of food items led to more expense than the bounty, or the price of a good room at an inn, so there is some imbalance there.

I would be reluctant to use the kennel on purpose, as my alcohol is where all my money goes, and having it taken is extremely problematic.

Not sleeping and spending the night in the skooma den, stocking up on my medicine supply is a better option.

 

As the dress created a severe encumbrance problem, I was unable to move even with my controls enabled.

The SLS min-carry-weight feature did not fix this problem, nor did it's min-move-speed.

It was only able to make myself mobile through use of SLD.

[Monoman1]

  

20 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

The guard decided to accost me while I was in stocks, being punished by Bondage Furniture World.

What was your sin? Hard to see you doing much wrong in stocks. 

14 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

This restrictive dress also appeared to be classed as armor for purposes of sleeping.

Despite offering rather little in terms of armor value. The penalty was only 9% though.

Was just about to fix this when I thought maybe it should be a penalty. You are sleeping in a restrictive, uncomfortable dress after all.... Even though most mods would consider you naked for the purposes of vulnerability. 

16 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

On leaving, the kennel-keeper didn't remove all the items that had added,

Anything added while inside the caged section is yours to keep. Lucky you

17 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

If he'd wanted those goods, why didn't he take them on entry so that I would need to seek nourishment from my companions?

That's what's meant to happen. I'll take a gander. 

17 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

It seemed a little strange that I was the only one of the occupants garbed in such elaborate leather-work.

They're added dynamically from Zaz. If you don't have zaz you don't get them. Didn't really think it was worth the effort to add devices to them. They already come pre-bound and sometimes gagged. 

18 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

he non-return of food items led to more expense than the bounty, or the price of a good room at an inn, so there is some imbalance there.

Is your stuff not in the chest in the corner? 

Admittedly this won't be obvious if you get ported to the kennel by a guard because you don't get the intro where the keeper explains this. 

I should probably auto return. 

[Monoman1]

Proposal:

 

Swallowing cum has a chance to make your character orgasm based on arousal + cum addiction level. Possible nice positive to have for becoming a cum slut?

 

Might cause problems when circumventing chastity though. But that's kind of the point?

 

I'm not sure I'd be able to force the SLSO game to make your PC orgasm so I'd probably have to 'fake it'. 

[Lupine00]

33 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Is your stuff not in the chest in the corner? 

I never thought to look because only certain classes of items were removed.

Weapons for example, were left alone.

I shall check.

 

It would make more sense if all items were removed, because then the player would have much less chance of being so heavily loaded that they cannot move.

That would severely limit the opportunity to make a bloody mess in the kennels, assuming you could struggle out of the devices, which is perhaps

possible with some mods.

 

33 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

What was your sin? Hard to see you doing much wrong in stocks. 

Automatically consuming skooma.

 

It was actually consumed before entering the stocks - just - but by the time the guard showed up, I'd been in the stocks a good while, because BFW ported me half-way across Whiterun to put me in them.

 

The problem with the dress being a penalty is that you also get a penalty for not wearing devices.

The dress might be more comfy than many devices that do not incur such a penalty but do count towards reducing your "unbound slut" penalty.

It's like a catch-22 scenario that only occurs for a few random items that are (probably) mis-flagged on the devices.

 

I'm not 100% sure about food/drink removal, but I do have some recollection of consuming food, drink and alcohol immediately I got inside to try and offset some of my penalties and debuffs. Maybe there was some lag and it was removed ... after a bit ... but probably not, I think it was still there later.

[mangalo]

54 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Proposal:

 

Swallowing cum has a chance to make your character orgasm based on arousal + cum addiction level. Possible nice positive to have for becoming a cum slut?

 

Might cause problems when circumventing chastity though. But that's kind of the point?

 

I'm not sure I'd be able to force the SLSO game to make your PC orgasm so I'd probably have to 'fake it'. 

 

Not really a fan of that specific mechanic but it's your mod, and  as long as it's togglable, I can't complain.  But I'm all in for new corrupt ways to orgasm, though IMO it should involve penetration or drugs to keep some "realism".  Orgasm should be earned, slurping cum is a bit easy when you have some mods.

 

As for that ghost-armor thing, I understand that it's maybe too complex for what it wants to achieve.  But I remembered there are some "SOS armors" that show the schlongs, so maybe there's a way around the genitals not showing (maybe an armor tag ?  or a call to SoS that can be made).  Assuming there's a way to force the genitals to show, the issue left is to swap the textures while keeping the mesh.  

 

You're already in for a big release anyway, one step at a time I'd say

[Monoman1]

14 minutes ago, mangalo said:

IMO it should involve penetration or drugs to keep some "realism"

Cum is a drug!

(In sls)

15 minutes ago, mangalo said:

Orgasm should be earned, slurping cum is a bit easy when you have some mods.

Well chances should be based heavily around your cum addiction level. 

Not addicted -> absolutely no chance ever. 

Cum tolerant -> maybe tiny chance at very high arousal. 

Cum dump -> moderate chance at high arousal. 

Cum junkie -> probably nearly always orgasm unless arousal is very low. 

17 minutes ago, mangalo said:

But I remembered there are some "SOS armors" that show the schlongs, so maybe there's a way around the genitals not showing (maybe an armor tag ?  or a call to SoS that can be made). 

There is a flag you can set on armors. Never used it so I don't know how it works. I'd have to look at it. But I wonder if simply revealing the schlong would be noticeable enough. The view tends to center on their face and the schlong may not be visible if you're close enough. More so if you use Alternate Conversations Camera. 

[audhol]

30 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Well chances should be based heavily around your cum addiction level. 

Not addicted -> absolutely no chance ever. 

Cum tolerant -> maybe tiny chance at very high arousal. 

Cum dump -> moderate chance at high arousal. 

Cum junkie -> probably nearly always orgasm unless arousal is very low. 

Would this also take corruption into consideration? Corrupted cum junkie only orgasms with big loads? Or vice versa in that the load size dictates orgasm chance but increases corruption?

[Nazzzgul666]

Something i thought about and probably would be easy to add here since you already at least detect all the mods anyways: If i'm unable to use my arms, be it due to devices or amputations, i'd like to have an option to beg NPCs to milk me if breasts are full/above a certain limit. I don't care how it would be done, via breastfeeding animation, slapping, putting you into a machine (although this is also limited by devices, shouldn't be the only option at least)... maybe not at all, i actually just want the option to beg for it.  Possibly only with certain NPCs like followers or innkeepers and farmers maybe?

[Corsec]

I have some custom patches to offer that people might find useful. These are for TAWOBA + SLS users who are also using the SLS CBBE TAWOBA Patch Update 0.1 by Sucker 343 that you can find in the link below. You MUST have this installed-

 

 

The files I am uploading are modified versions of the patches you can find here, I have integrated these patches with the SLS CBBE 0.1 patch-

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/84417

 

One is a replacer plugin for the CBBE Update 0.1 patch. I have changed it to remove all cell and worldspace edits, and to remove NPCs and anything that isn't necessary to the core mod. This will remove the edits to the Riverwood blacksmith and the superfluous NPC it places there. It will make TAWOBA compatible with town mods that modify Riverwood.

 

The other file is a modified version of the TAWOBA light armor patch. It changes all heavy bikini armors to light armors. I have modified the amor slots to be consistent with the CBBE patch, they now shouldn't have visual glitches. It also adds some keywords to bikinis and reduces the item weight.

 

I haven't tested all sets but it seems to work for the ones I have seen. Let me know if there are bugs.

EDIT: Files deleted, latest versions available here-

 

[Lupine00]

8 hours ago, mangalo said:

As for that ghost-armor thing, I understand that it's maybe too complex for what it wants to achieve.

You could make this sort of mechanic work by using SAM, then flip between SAM-based skimpy vanilla replacer armor and the vanilla armor.

 

The SAM skimpy armors are ... considerably ... sexualized.

 

 

I was stumbling along with The Veteran Skin - which still looks quite good - for ages, until I discovered that ... a certain community ... had made all these hyper-sexy-man mods. You won't find them on this site though.

 

It's equality in action.

 

Once you install SAM and skimpy armors ... there is just COCK everywhere!

[Monoman1]

26 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

there is just COCK everywhere!

@Lupine00 died and went to heaven

5 hours ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Something i thought about and probably would be easy to add here since you already at least detect all the mods anyways: If i'm unable to use my arms, be it due to devices or amputations, i'd like to have an option to beg NPCs to milk me if breasts are full/above a certain limit. I don't care how it would be done, via breastfeeding animation, slapping, putting you into a machine (although this is also limited by devices, shouldn't be the only option at least)... maybe not at all, i actually just want the option to beg for it.  Possibly only with certain NPCs like followers or innkeepers and farmers maybe?

That's kind of tricky. 

Breast feeding could probably be done I think. Though might be better suited to milk addict?

Slapping? Yikes. Default 15% chance for a slap to cause milk leak = a lot of slapping!

Machine milking.... can't. I don't think. Not for MME. At least not in armbinders etc. I don't think I could change MME forbidding them without invasive script patching. 

8 hours ago, audhol said:

Would this also take corruption into consideration? Corrupted cum junkie only orgasms with big loads? Or vice versa in that the load size dictates orgasm chance but increases corruption?

Yea I was thinking along the same lines. 

[Lupine00]

31 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Machine milking.... can't. I don't think. Not for MME. At least not in armbinders etc. I don't think I could change MME forbidding them without invasive script patching. 

Remove armbinder temporarily.

Put PC in bound milking machine.

Replace armbinder.

 

 

The problem I have with MME is that it does not generate events for start and end of milking.

This feels like a major oversight. It caused me problems just last night, trying to do milking deal for DF.

It generates the end of milk cycle event, but that is highly ambiguous in meaning.

 

I'm currently using that to trigger inspection of the times-milked counter.

[Monoman1]

17 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

The problem I have with MME is that it does not generate events for start and end of milking.

OnSit()

OnGetUp()

Filter for MME_MilkMachine keyword. 

At least that's what I've done in the past. 

 

Doesn't capture manual milking in milking machine armor though. Obviously.