Sexlab Survival

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Bushi Neko said:

Well, "Bow Daddy" and I had to take some time away from all things gaming. Including obviously breaking various mods. Especially SLS.  But we are returning now. We missed a bit here... Well we shall see how playing catch up goes. 

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WB. 

You should know by now that my mods are imbreakable™

32 minutes ago, mangalo said:

On another topic, is there something blocking you from disabling shouts when being cursed/wearing the collar ?  As a mage, staying in a Slaverun city makes you practically powerless but not so much if you can still use shouts.  From a game engine point of view, I imagine this must be quite hard to disable, though... 

Maybe put the player in an eternal shout cooldown ...  Or find some quest that has shouts disabled during a scene...

 

Note : I haven't tried using shouts while cursed yet so maybe my comment might be totally useless

No you're right. 

The magic curse doesn't block shouting. The bikini curse sort of does though, if you're wearing full armor. 

TBH I'm not sure it should anyway. It makes the magic licence x100 times more important. But perhaps I can add something as an option. 

 

Regarding the bathing stash thing:

I don't know. I can see there being 100 ways around it tbh. Drop your shit on the floor, just throw it all into a container for a min (stash stealing doesn't happen that quickly)

Personally I like the 'not bathing in front of' thing. It adds a little personality to your character who too often is fine with running around naked, fucking in public, being covered in devices, being covered in cum, fucking animals in public etc. And does so with a smile. Weirdo. 

There's no reason you couldn't do both though. 

[sshar22]

On shouts...

I may repeat, what I initially requested to the City Bondage mod

The moment you are known to be dragonborn, and then granted by the Jarl a thane position you can become a threat to the "status quo" of the city

As Ulfric challenged Thoryyg and killed him with a shout, the PC being granted a title and gaining renown may pose a threat

So a Jarl through his court wizard could impose some sort of shout impediment, from a simple gag, to a "infinite cooldown" of the shout while in the city

 

Achievable?

 

 

Cheers

[Corsayr]

44 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I can see there being 100 ways around it tbh. Drop your shit on the floor, just throw it all into a container for a min (stash stealing doesn't happen that quickly

Actually the point of the feature was to avoid doing either of those things ?

 

As to the timing of the stealing, could you trigger the check off the bathing event?

44 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Personally I like the 'not bathing in front of' thing.

Did you read the tweaks BiS forum yet? There is a reason these suggestions are appearing now. ?

45 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

too often is fine with running around naked, fucking in public, being covered in devices, being covered in cum, fucking animals in public etc. And does so with a smile. Weirdo. 

I'm never "fine" with it... it's just unavoidable at times... ? (and it isn't a smile it's a look of desperation! because BwA triggers that expression when naked) ?

 

 

?

[Corsayr]

2 minutes ago, sshar22 said:

On shouts...

I may repeat, what I initially requested to the City Bondage mod

The moment you are known to be dragonborn, and then granted by the Jarl a thane position you can become a threat to the "status quo" of the city

As Ulfric challenged Thoryyg and killed him with a shout, the PC being granted a title and gaining renown may pose a threat

So a Jarl through his court wizard could impose some sort of shout impediment, from a simple gag, to a "infinite cooldown" of the shout while in the city

 

Achievable?

 

 

Cheers

DD already blocks shouts if gagged, so the simple gag would work... 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Bushi Neko said:

Well, "Bow Daddy" and I had to take some time away from all things gaming. Including obviously breaking various mods. Especially SLS.  But we are returning now. We missed a bit here... Well we shall see how playing catch up goes. 

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Not to derail, but...

 

How did you get a horse with two people on it? It isn't a pose, is it? I've never seen anything like this.

[Monoman1]

31 minutes ago, sshar22 said:

On shouts...

I may repeat, what I initially requested to the City Bondage mod

The moment you are known to be dragonborn, and then granted by the Jarl a thane position you can become a threat to the "status quo" of the city

As Ulfric challenged Thoryyg and killed him with a shout, the PC being granted a title and gaining renown may pose a threat

So a Jarl through his court wizard could impose some sort of shout impediment, from a simple gag, to a "infinite cooldown" of the shout while in the city

 

Achievable?

 

 

Cheers

Makes sense and it's probably possible. 

30 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

Actually the point of the feature was to avoid doing either of those things

But if you know there's a good chance your clothes will get robbed from the stash while bathing then you'll try these things, no?

31 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

Did you read the tweaks BiS forum yet? There is a reason these suggestions are appearing now.

I know. Been kind of swamped lately. 

30 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

DD already blocks shouts if gagged, so the simple gag would work... 

Gags are a bit annoying tbh. 

MASSIVE speech debuff with some responses means selling stuff for nothing. 

It'd be a tough penalty for simply existing imo. 

[donttouchmethere]

Maybe I missed something:

Cursed collar get added by enforcers or toll collectors => this also adds the tattoo.

If the cursed collar gets illegally removed => this also removes the tattoo

 

Wouldn't it make more sense, if the PC find a way out of the collar, that the tattoo stays until license is bought?

 

[Monoman1]

29 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Maybe I missed something:

Cursed collar get added by enforcers or toll collectors => this also adds the tattoo.

If the cursed collar gets illegally removed => this also removes the tattoo

 

Wouldn't it make more sense, if the PC find a way out of the collar, that the tattoo stays until license is bought?

 

With the collar option enabled the tattoo comes from the cursed collar. So when the collar is removed so too is the curse. This gives you the chance to cheat you're way out of the curse. Just like you could find weapons/armors out in the wild without a armor/weapon licence. It's more equivalent to the other licences this way I feel. 

If you disable the collar option you'll get the curse tat which can't be removed without getting a magic licence. So you could always do that. 

[Lupine00]

11 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

If you disable the collar option you'll get the curse tat which can't be removed without getting a magic licence. So you could always do that.

I didn't know that was how it worked. Please improve tooltips  

[Lupine00]

It probably needs more thought, but I really like the idea of putting all your gear at risk to take a wash.

 

It would finally make that stash thing do something in my game, because normally, I never stash things.

If I put something in a container outside my home, it's to get rid of it for good.

 

 

The chance of theft shouldn't be so high that the player feels it's worth going to lengths to dodge this. It should be the easiest and to some extent safest path... For it to work as a mechanic.

 

Sure, you can leave your clothes at home and run around naked to avoid losing them, but that defeats the point of having clothes, so you won't.

And sure, you can put them in a container, but clearly that is no safer than leaving them in the temporary stash. How risky a stash is, is up to your stash code, right?

[Corsayr]

48 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

But if you know there's a good chance your clothes will get robbed from the stash while bathing then you'll try these things, no?

As bikini armor break has taught me, dropping gear on the ground has a reasonable chance it will disappear anyway. ?

 

Putting the clothes in a container won't help because the stash robbery trigger should impact all nearby containers (not just the dropped clothes)?

 

And if you put them in a far away container you have to walk a long way naked...?

 

And leaving them unequipped in inventory leads to stage 3 of the request... which is to have MWA do a durability hit on items in you inventory when you bathe. (Have you ever tried to carry you clothes with you into the shower?) Or something like that preventing bathing with gear in your inventory...  

 

 

 

 

[donttouchmethere]

41 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

With the collar option enabled the tattoo comes from the cursed collar. So when the collar is removed so too is the curse. This gives you the chance to cheat you're way out of the curse. Just like you could find weapons/armors out in the wild without a armor/weapon licence. It's more equivalent to the other licences this way I feel. 

If you disable the collar option you'll get the curse tat which can't be removed without getting a magic licence. So you could always do that. 

But it's often a waste of a great tattoo, because depending on the collar type you can't even see it.

Would be more evil if it stays and maybe fades or (if no gold for licenes) some alternative route of escape.

The main reason for me to remove the collar is: SLAC, DEC, SLSF, SLdialog, DH (trader malus), DT2 (effects and debuffs) and not the MP ^^

 

"If you disable the collar option you'll get the curse tat which can't be removed without getting a magic licence. So you could always do that."

oops sorry took me a while!

got it, that's evil enough for me >D

 

[Bakon]

On 9/25/2019 at 1:20 PM, Lupine00 said:

I think those are there to fix serious issues when amputator goes awry.

Taking it away is like removing console access.

 

Simply erase that MCM from your mind until you genuinely need it.

Yea, makes sense. Ironically enough I also removed console access to theres that, can always manually disable the mod and go that direction if an unlucky save bug or so happens aha.

[Bushi Neko]

4 hours ago, Sam0016 said:

Not to derail, but...

 

How did you get a horse with two people on it? It isn't a pose, is it? I've never seen anything like this.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/86031  It can be quirky tho', nothing that will game kill.  I went back to using it with SLS and my thinking that as harsh as it is for women types... it makes sense to not own a mount. Plus ' Bow Daddy ' there prefers to have me close.   Also with my economy and taxes getting a single horse, then paying the recurring fees for it, are nightmarish. 

[Bushi Neko]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

WB. 

You should know by now that my mods are imbreakable™

 

I dunno'. I break lots of things....  

as for imbreakable… well... time will tell. 

[Bound]

Love the idea of needing to be nude/no inventory to bathe. Very very much actually. Not sure this is the mod to do that though, seems out of scope. Also some other "cheats" to consider are dumping your stuff in that dead bandit next to the river while you bathe, etc. Also still need to be able to swim, ford rivers and puddles, fall into canals, etc without anything automatic happening. Really love the idea but hard to think of ways to make it work. And on the other hand, while you're not likely to get pretty or very clean splashing water on yourself while in full armor, you should at least be able to wash the cum off!

 

Anywho, back to this mod, conditions on using vendors does sound like its scope. Maybe even broader than that, something like nobody (except Guards and collectors) will talk to a female if she is not wearing appropriate clothing for their city/culture. Appropriate being nude or sexy clothes of course. Could also expand that with soft dependency on Immersive fashion for make up and the like.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Bushi Neko said:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/86031  It can be quirky tho', nothing that will game kill.  I went back to using it with SLS and my thinking that as harsh as it is for women types... it makes sense to not own a mount. Plus ' Bow Daddy ' there prefers to have me close.   Also with my economy and taxes getting a single horse, then paying the recurring fees for it, are nightmarish. 

Fab. Big cheers from me.

[Tenri]

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Gags are a bit annoying tbh. 

MASSIVE speech debuff with some responses means selling stuff for nothing. 

It'd be a tough penalty for simply existing imo. 

I think corsets have an effect on shouts as well, and are far less punishing than a gag, but I may be misremembering device effects.

[Alliter]

I was thinking about possibility to buy yourself into some kind of privileged state, which means you'll get permanent free-pass through the gates with no questions asked.

Could be nice end-game goalpost - from struggling lowlife to VIP.

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Alliter said:

Could be nice end-game goalpost - from struggling lowlife to VIP.

Logically, this should be contingent on finishing Civil War, so there is less excuse for restricting travel.

Also, you play an important role in the war, and its fairly ... notable.

 

Perhaps it could require some late-game main-quest items, along with a hefty cash payment.

Best house is 25,000, so lift of all license restrictions could be 50 to 100,000?

 

Or just set yourself the goal, and turn the licenses off when you've met your requirements  

[Barzing]

i have a suggestion on compass & map : you can maybe make use (patch ?) of "minimal HUD" mod (even light version) moving position out of screen to control it. I tested it manually it works.

and what about a sperated map and compass ? i very like the idea and much more on immersive purpose. 

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Perhaps it could require some late-game main-quest items, along with a hefty cash payment.

Best house is 25,000, so lift of all license restrictions could be 50 to 100,000?

 

5 hours ago, Alliter said:

I was thinking about possibility to buy yourself into some kind of privileged state, which means you'll get permanent free-pass through the gates with no questions asked.

Could be nice end-game goalpost - from struggling lowlife to VIP.

TBH I think the perpetual licences are already a good end goal for the licences.

 

The toll gates are a different story. Maybe owning a house would be good enough for a toll pass? It's a bit too easy to get breezehome though. Maybe just a discount or something for owning a house. 

It would also undermine all the toll pass ideas on the dev blog (in the later game at least)

1 hour ago, Barzing said:

i have a suggestion on compass & map : you can maybe make use (patch ?) of "minimal HUD" mod (even light version) moving position out of screen to control it. I tested it manually it works.

and what about a sperated map and compass ? i very like the idea and much more on immersive purpose. 

Tried it before. Originally I wanted separate map and compass items (I think they're still in the esp actually). But there was a problem when you owned a map but not a compass. I could disable the compass from the hud no problem but if you had a map all you had to do was open it and look at the player pointer to get your direction so I just combined both items. 

[Barzing]

6 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

1 hour ago, Barzing said:

i have a suggestion on compass & map : you can maybe make use (patch ?) of "minimal HUD" mod (even light version) moving position out of screen to control it. I tested it manually it works.

and what about a sperated map and compass ? i very like the idea and much more on immersive purpose. 

Tried it before. Originally I wanted separate map and compass items (I think they're still in the esp actually). But there was a problem when you owned a map but not a compass. I could disable the compass from the hud no problem but if you had a map all you had to do was open it and look at the player pointer to get your direction so I just combined both items. 

 

6 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I could disable the compass from the hud no problem

Yes, but a lot of different mods tend to reveal it and you can't control of them (ie immersive HUD show it on game load and the mod apparently don't detect it) , but with minimal HUD postionning it's really a solid way to hide it and it remove completly any flashing.

 

13 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

ou had a map all you had to do was open it and look at the player pointer to get your direction

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25501?tab=description (paper map) you have a "no player marker" addon for the map ...  

[Reesewow]

10 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

 

TBH I think the perpetual licences are already a good end goal for the licences.

 

The toll gates are a different story. Maybe owning a house would be good enough for a toll pass? It's a bit too easy to get breezehome though. Maybe just a discount or something for owning a house. 

It would also undermine all the toll pass ideas on the dev blog (in the later game at least)

I think it could be a bit of an immersion boost if there was a way to obtain a lifetime free pass in a city, such as if you complete specific major questlines for that location and pay a hefty sum to the Jarl. 

 

A bit of an immersion/end goal only IMO, since SLS isn't really set up with a high level and wealthy character in mind, and the effect could essentially be the same as disabling tolls when a PC is too strong for such drudgery.  Might also be something people regret doing if it isn't reversible and you release new content relating to tolls.

[Lupine00]

9 hours ago, Barzing said:

Yes, but a lot of different mods tend to reveal it and you can't control of them (ie immersive HUD show it on game load and the mod apparently don't detect it) , but with minimal HUD postionning it's really a solid way to hide it and it remove completly any flashing.

Good technical suggestions.

 

I'm not that hung up on map+compass being improved, but it would be nice I suppose.

 

It's most effective when you have neither, after a major failure, or at game start. Being lost in a forest (and my game has a lot of extra dense forest) with no map or compass can be quite disorienting. You really can end up going in circles. Especially in the dark (and my game is quite dark at night too). It's quite ... immersive  

 

In most cases you wouldn't get just one item stolen, so it's a bit of an edge case to have one or the other.

 

However, I'd like it if more mods were aware of the mechanic.

Or if the guards could require you to have a map+compass to leave town, and make comments about how you need a man to read the map for you.