Sexlab Survival

[donttouchmethere]

19 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

Fawn's new shoes! ?

TORTURE! ?

[Monoman1]

23 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

Fawn's new shoes! ?

Nonsense. You look both classy <snickers, *slut*> and fierce <snickers>

[Naps-On-Dirt]

8 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Try turning toll evasion off and back on again.

Unfortunately all that did was reset the state of them having caught me, so they caught me all over again and I had to lose another license.  I also seem to have a tattoo in the middle of my chest but I'm not sure he explained what that was for.

[Monoman1]

10 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Unfortunately all that did was reset the state of them having caught me, so they caught me all over again and I had to lose another license

Whoops. My bad. You could have disabled toll evasion until you returned probably.

11 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I also seem to have a tattoo in the middle of my chest but I'm not sure he explained what that was for.

Hmm. The only tattoo from this mod on the chest (without messing with textures) is the bikini curse. It's a small rune in the center of the chest. But it also comes with rings around your wrists and ankles ?

If it looks like that then it's the bikini curse. You're not allowed to wear full armors and must stick with bikinis. 

[thecrustytac0]

hi so i am having trouble getting the bikini armors exp going since i just finally noticed i was not getting anything. i did read a few topics about it like adding the keyword _SLS_BikiniArmor but when i go into the edit and try to add it it it wont allow me too. so i was wondering if anyone here can tell me how to properly do that. that would be awesome thanks 

[FoMK11SD]

did you add Sexlab survival as master? there is a handy guide if you go to page one and scroll to the first comment.

[Lupine00]

14 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

That's what I was thinking of. Thanks that was annoying me. 

The only pony mod I played that worked fairly reliably was Shout Like a Virgin. SLUTS had scene overlap issues and other problems. Many problems with success/fail conditions for example.

[DJShamrock]

Hey all, hoping for some help/advice  Using the SE version and when I try to enter a city Im crashing pretty instantly. I load in but then I either get a black screen or the guard starts to ask for my toll and the game freezes. I even tried turning the detection timer up to the max (10 seconds) because it says it can improve performance, and no change  I tried looking for an option to disable the tolls to see if it would fix and dont see one.

 

Any help would be seriously appreciated, I really want to use this mod but if I cant enter cities thats kind of a deal breaker @.@

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, DJShamrock said:

Hey all, hoping for some help/advice  Using the SE version and when I try to enter a city Im crashing pretty instantly. I load in but then I either get a black screen or the guard starts to ask for my toll and the game freezes. I even tried turning the detection timer up to the max (10 seconds) because it says it can improve performance, and no change  I tried looking for an option to disable the tolls to see if it would fix and dont see one.

 

Any help would be seriously appreciated, I really want to use this mod but if I cant enter cities thats kind of a deal breaker @.@

This might be because of the physics chain collars. Look at the FAQ on how to remove them. 

3 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

The only pony mod I played that worked fairly reliably was Shout Like a Virgin. SLUTS had scene overlap issues and other problems. Many problems with success/fail conditions for example.

Was it the redux version? Seemed to work fine when I tried it. My problem with it was that my character was very slow due to all the debuffs and couldn't really run away from anything. Maybe i could bump up minav when ponyified. 

8 hours ago, thecrustytac0 said:

hi so i am having trouble getting the bikini armors exp going since i just finally noticed i was not getting anything. i did read a few topics about it like adding the keyword _SLS_BikiniArmor but when i go into the edit and try to add it it it wont allow me too. so i was wondering if anyone here can tell me how to properly do that. that would be awesome thanks 

Check post #2 in this thread. 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

15 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Whoops. My bad. You could have disabled toll evasion until you returned probably.

I did, I didn't enable it until I was back in Whiterun, and when I enabled it the guards immediately rushed me.  :o  

 

I don't know if this helps @DJShamrock, but I wasn't getting bikini armor experience because somehow TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp was above SL Survival.esp.    I use NMM and I guess it didn't recheck masters when I replaced the .esp with the patched one. Why that didn't cause my game to crash immediately I don't know.  Once I moved the TAWOBA esp below SL Survival.esp, I started getting experience.

[Lupine00]

27 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Was it the redux version?

I don't feel Redux fixed any of the problems from SLUTS original, just added a new way to be a SLUT.

Now, maybe it changed how some things worked, but I didn't feel an improvement exactly.

 

And things like always failing the missing seem like a problem to me. I didn't have that issue exactly, but it felt like luck. If I had been slow, then I would have failed over and over.

[Leytra]

I have the right amputator framework, but I can't find any actual amputation content.

It's not in the mcm anywhere I can see to change chances, and I've never had it actually occur.

[FoMK11SD]

are you on the right version? it should be on the main page in the right page under something like combat amputations, i cant check myself as im still rebuilding my mod list.

[Monoman1]

24 minutes ago, Leytra said:

I have the right amputator framework, but I can't find any actual amputation content.

It's not in the mcm anywhere I can see to change chances, and I've never had it actually occur.

I'd double check you downloaded the right version and just try a reinstall. 

There should be a whole 'tab' in the mcm called 'Pickpocket & Dismemberment'

@FoMK11SD It got moved from the general settings page to it's own page a couple of versions ago to make space. 

 

[FoMK11SD]

ah, nice the page was getting full.

I wanna play skyrim again but i need to wait until i get a new gpu, i got way too many 4k textures etc for a gtx 960

[Leytra]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I'd double check you downloaded the right version and just try a reinstall. 

There should be a whole 'tab' in the mcm called 'Pickpocket & Dismemberment'

I've got the most up to date version. It's just.. absent.

[Monoman1]

49 minutes ago, Leytra said:

I've got the most up to date version. It's just.. absent.

The entire Mcm is missing or just that specific page? 

Can I get a screenshot of it?

[Leytra]

10 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

The entire Mcm is missing or just that specific page? 

Can I get a screenshot of it?

Here's the screenshot of the survival mcm, no pickpocket and dismemberment option. Just the pickpocket loot settings in the general bit.

[Monoman1]

13 minutes ago, Leytra said:

Here's the screenshot of the survival mcm, no pickpocket and dismemberment option. Just the pickpocket loot settings in the general bit.

Still looks like an old version of the Mcm. Did you update from a previous version of SLS?

This is what the Mcm should look like now: 

Spoiler

 

Can you create a new game and see then if you have the Pickpocket and dismemberment page. If so then a clean save is probably the best answer. If not then it's got to be something to do with your files - Older version installed or something being overwritten by older files. 

[DJShamrock]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

This might be because of the physics chain collars. Look at the FAQ on how to remove them. 

Removed the lines for the steel collars as per the FAQ, still having the issue. Is there any way to disable the tolls or guards from searching for/talking to you as soon as you enter a city? 

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, DJShamrock said:

Removed the lines for the steel collars as per the FAQ, still having the issue. Is there any way to disable the tolls or guards from searching for/talking to you as soon as you enter a city? 

Can you just humor me and try this file: DeviceList.json

The reason being I'm almost certain someone had this problem and I think the problem was the HDT chain collars. Does SE even have HDT? I don't believe it does.

You enter town, the guards start talking to you and mid dialogue is a crash? 

 

If it still doesn't work. Create a save just before you go into a city. Go 3rd person. Enter the city. Immediately open the console. If the guards have already started talking to you it's too late and you'll have to reload and try again.

Type 'tfc 1' in the console. Select both toll collectors by clicking on them and type 'disable'. Use 'tfc 1' again to resume the game. 

 

If it still crashes without the guards talking to you then I have no idea what the problem could be. It might not be SLS related. 

[DJShamrock]

57 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Can you just humor me and try this file: DeviceList.json

The reason being I'm almost certain someone had this problem and I think the problem was the HDT chain collars. Does SE even have HDT? I don't believe it does.

You enter town, the guards start talking to you and mid dialogue is a crash? 

 

If it still doesn't work. Create a save just before you go into a city. Go 3rd person. Enter the city. Immediately open the console. If the guards have already started talking to you it's too late and you'll have to reload and try again.

Type 'tfc 1' in the console. Select both toll collectors by clicking on them and type 'disable'. Use 'tfc 1' again to resume the game. 

 

If it still crashes without the guards talking to you then I have no idea what the problem could be. It might not be SLS related. 

No problem- I downloaded the file, same freeze. Now the problem is that on a fresh save, the screen just goes black- music still playing but no control, can't escape out of it or anything, so trying to open the console from a save outside the city would be impossible. I attempted to load the autosave before which is how I witnessed the freeze happening as the guard tried talking to me, because the visuals were there right up until the dialogue and then it would freeze, so I -might- be able to hit the console fast enough there but I don't know if I can go 3rd person fast enough (its almost immediately on load that they spot me if I'm loading the autosave from inside)

[Monoman1]

25 minutes ago, DJShamrock said:

No problem- I downloaded the file, same freeze. Now the problem is that on a fresh save, the screen just goes black- music still playing but no control, can't escape out of it or anything, so trying to open the console from a save outside the city would be impossible. I attempted to load the autosave before which is how I witnessed the freeze happening as the guard tried talking to me, because the visuals were there right up until the dialogue and then it would freeze, so I -might- be able to hit the console fast enough there but I don't know if I can go 3rd person fast enough (its almost immediately on load that they spot me if I'm loading the autosave from inside)

OK. 3rd person might not be necessary. 

Or new game for testing?

 

Btw I wouldn't really rely on autosaves/quicksave..... at all.

Personally I open the console and 'save 1',

'save 2'

'save 3'

I do up as far as 200 (because I'm paranoid) but you can do as many as you like. This way you control everything and it gives you much more room to roll back. Then when you hit 200 (or whatever) back to 1, 2, 3.

[DJShamrock]

33 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

OK. 3rd person might not be necessary. 

Or new game for testing?

 

Btw I wouldn't really rely on autosaves/quicksave..... at all.

Personally I open the console and 'save 1',

'save 2'

'save 3'

I do up as far as 200 (because I'm paranoid) but you can do as many as you like. This way you control everything and it gives you much more room to roll back. Then when you hit 200 (or whatever) back to 1, 2, 3.

Yeah, I started using clean new saves too, no dice. As a last resort to find if its really the issue I disabled the mod, rebashed, and started a brand new save. Repeated the same steps, enabled all my other mods in game (like sexlab etc) and walked into Solitude. Aside from some lag, I didn't end up crashing. Repeated in Whiterun and Riften (the 3 heaviest load cities for my games). I wish I knew why Survival was an issue- a part of me thinks maybe its just the one straw breaking the camel's back and something with the tolls and the way the guards are functioning are just overburdening my game and freezing before I can implement any kind of fix.

 

Regardless, I have a working game now, I'm just sad its without Survival, was really looking forward to trying it out. Maybe as the other mods are more updated for SE and the builds versions get cleaner and out of beta there won't be so much strain and the like but for now I have to bench it for another playthrough I'm afraid :<

 

Of course, I'm always happy to try new things if you end up having any other ideas about the issues, but I fear without an option to disable the entire toll functionality in the MCM it might not be replicatable.

[Reesewow]

 

12 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Was it the redux version? Seemed to work fine when I tried it. My problem with it was that my character was very slow due to all the debuffs and couldn't really run away from anything. Maybe i could bump up minav when ponyified. 

SLUTS redux has generally worked well enough for me as well - a few issues with the crime/Simple Slavery bridging when I tried it a while ago, but there have been some fixes on that since based on the changelog and the unofficial fixes people have posted.  The last update from July also apparently added Deviously helpless suspend/resume events and made it so any generic DD items get added back to your inventory automatically after a run, which was definitely an annoyance with Devious Followers (not fun have your earnings instantly offset by your DF escort punishing you repeatedly for not wearing your cuffs immediately after a pony run).  I can't claim to have specifically tested these changes myself however.

 

IMO it does definitely work best with an escort, which ties in well with Devious Followers and/or the Survival escort requirement.  Either that or getting really good at crushing wolves with the cart.  I assume it also has some exposed code for exterior mods to hook into it nicely, since it was added to Simply Slavery fairly quickly. 

 

 

 

It could definitely be a fun soft-dependency outcome for those that already run it with SL Survival however.  One idea for implementation:

 

• The SLUTS company has obtained certain exemptions from the Skyrim Jarls for their couriers, to help maintain trade channels in these times of uncertainty.  The company has taken full responsibility for their couriers (read - the guards have no responsibility to rescue you) and has already implemented a dress and conduct code becoming of females in Skyrim.
• What this could mean for the player in terms of SLS - if the player has been recruited as a SLUTS courier in the past, they can insist they have a package to deliver when talking to the toll collectors..  Instead of being required to pay the toll and have an escort - the player is then sent directly to the carriage driver outside and a SLUTS transport mission is started.
• Extra useful option if it works in the framework of a SLS->SLUTS soft-dependency bridge would be to allow the player to have the option of a random destination or a specific one when getting started.  This are the default options in SLUTS Redux for voluntary runs, but I don't know if it would be easily tied into a soft-dependency link.
• Other random tie-in idea - sometimes a SLUTS run results in the player being stuck as a walking SLUTS billboard (slavetats+forced nudity) for a period of time.  SLS might be able to detect this debuff and act upon it.  Could be things like Enforcers ignoring you, or the toll system being suspended until the debuff clears since the PC is *obviously* an official courier and doesn't need to pay the toll.

 

 

So if a player was destitute, wanted to avoid the toll, or is desperately avoiding followers for fear of DF debt - they would have additional options beyond sneaking out of the city and provoking the wrath of the guards for skipping out.  Instead of sneaking out, they could leave officially and follower-free.... they'd just have to make it to their destination of choice in one piece while bound, naked and dragging a heavy cart.