Sexlab Survival

[donttouchmethere]

On 9/22/2019 at 8:08 AM, Monoman1 said:

I could add a smaller healing bonus for everything else I suppose. 

NOOOOO!

That would make the troll hunt not as important anymore.

Also I thought the Idea was that trolls can generate HP very well and that's the "skyrim scientific" cause for their cum healing powers!

 

I want to believe that only creatures with special powers can heal W&T.

Apropos2 W&T would become meaningless if you just can have more sex to heal W&T from sex ?

 

On 9/22/2019 at 7:49 AM, Lupine00 said:

I would be happy if ANY cum swallowing could help cure abuse damage, as my char has been stuck at maxed out abuse from the early hours of the game, and never really been able to recover, despite munching a lot of spider and chaurus eggs.

You know you can change the healing amount of Apropos2 consumables? ?

You can modify the healing amount here: WearAndTear_Consumables.txt

Also you can add more consumables that can heal Apropos2 W&T.

 

Give rare consumables higher healing amounts.

Give Chaurus and Spider eggs you lay yourself with EC ES ED the highest ratings, like that you might even want to get Chaurus impregnated.

 

Alternative consumables with high rating:

Netchgelee

Ash Hopper Jelly

This would make a trip to Solstheim more interesting to get those ingredients.

 

For more Mainland related consumables:

everything that looks like some kind of egg or jelly (ectoplasm for example)

 

With skooma whore:

give drugs the highes healing powers!

that way you can be a skomma whore in no time to ease the pain

 

 

Sometimes I get the feeling you're just playing with numbers and not with an interesting Skyrim setup that creates a story by limiting resources ?

That's why SLS is so great!

It has an effect an my whole game without always forcing something on me, this is pretty genius.

It limits gold, easy map access, XP, stealing in DDs, city access and Limbs.

This in turn forces you to find new solutions ingame and brings you onto new interesting paths, while triggering other LL mods on the way.

Alone the first only subtile "less XP" "Less gold for selling" for females is genius.

The full impact gets felt only after a few game hours if you try to get enough gold for DF and SLS licenses.

The less earned XP is especially great, because it keeps my PC way longer in the low lvl range.

A SDcages camp is on my usual setup up to 10k-40k gold worth (depending on selling skills and available merchants).

SLS reduced this by licenses and lower trade income.

Didn't even recognized it at first => that makes it even better!

 

In addition: the interesting part is also to play against the mod creators vision of his mod.

Just modifying everything via MCM is great to solve compatibility issues, but feels like cheating or shooting an arrow into your own knee.

 

For example MM1 has an idea how to make skyrim harder => now I have to compensate, I do that with new ingame tactics or I try new mods out (I never thought would be necessary) to counter the effects of MM1's mod ideas.

Both solutions have drawbacks, just need to choose the one that hurts less. Often this seemingly freedom of choice is further limited by other mods on LL and Nexus. Not fighting against SLS alone here ^^

 

Know your mods! (ingame ^^)

[Reesewow]

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

I would be happy if ANY cum swallowing could help cure abuse damage, as my char has been stuck at maxed out abuse from the early hours of the game, and never really been able to recover, despite munching a lot of spider and chaurus eggs.

Bit off topic - but on Apropos:

 

Would highly recommend doing some settings tweaks to help mitigate this if you prefer your wear levels to fluctuate more rather than get locked at max.  I typically set the ceiling for abuse to a bit above the max wear damage level of level 9, so that after my PC escapes a particularly abusive scenario consumables actually have a chance of triggering healing.

 

Otherwise I find Apropos spends way too long with at max wear, as I think level 9 wear starts at something like 900 points, and the default max is 2,000.  I believe spider/chaurus eggs heal 10 each by default and skooma heals 25 - not much of a dent in an 1k + damage pool before you see results.  I did edit the wearandtear_consumables.txt file to bring skooma up to 200 for healing - but Sexlab Pheromones guarantees that to be a double-edged option in my load order.

 

You might find the Apropos animation patchups functionality is helpful with tagging issues, just because if you fix the problem tags once in the patchup text file it doesn't matter if the pack gets updated or you uninstall the pack and reinstall from an archived version later.  I mostly use it for a handful of animations I use frequently but had tagging inconsistencies, so I didn't need to keep manually editing the SLAL pack files directly every time the pack was updated - if Sex Slaves is calling animations directly or from a small pool it might be worth it to troubleshoot those animations this way.

[bathoz]

So, I'm (after about a year and half) going to jump back into building a modded game. And this mod, plus probably devious followers is the inspiration to do it. The plan is a female something (mage, maybe) and see how far I can go. What other devious mods beyond structural ones would people think are good combinations?

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Just added this mod mid game and ran into two things.  Maybe not bugs, but...

 

First, I went and payed the toll before going back to Dragonsreach to call Odaviing and ride to Skuldafn to save the world from Alduin.  When I got back they acted like I snuck out.  Not sure if this is avoidable, I assume that because I didn't use the front door my toll paying was not recorded or something?  Maybe this is working as intended, but you'd think they'd be a little more grateful. 

 

Second, I switched to your patched Amazing World of Bikini Armors, but now I can't make them at a forge?  Is that a bug or a feature?  If the latter, why?  Also, I haven't been getting bikini armor experience for the whole time I've had the mod loaded, yet I've been wearing a Blades bikini set.  It was crafted before the mod was added but I thought that once I used the new Bikini Armors esp that my armor would get the new keywords.

[Corsayr]

2 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

you'd think they'd be a little more grateful.

You'd think, but the problem with sexism is they usually aren't ?

 

 

[Corsayr]

2 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Second, I switched to your patched Amazing World of Bikini Armors, but now I can't make them at a forge?  Is that a bug or a feature?  If the latter, why?  Also, I haven't been getting bikini armor experience for the whole time I've had the mod loaded, yet I've been wearing a Blades bikini set.  It was crafted before the mod was added but I thought that once I used the new Bikini Armors esp that my armor would get the new keywords.

Where did you put it in the load order?

[Naps-On-Dirt]

@Corsayr Turns out, to make them you have to have a book.  So I added the book to my inventory so I could make a new set that would hopefully have the keywords. I don't know how you're supposed to get the book in normal play though.  The downside of the book is that if I try to even hover over it in my inventory, immediate CTD.  So I made the armor then removed the book via console.  So thats definately a bug.  

 

Further misbehavior from my visit to Sovngarde, I now can't pay a toll to leave, it keeps telling me I already paid, but if I leave it says "the guards will soon notice that you've left" and then later "the guards will have noticed you are gone by now."  So I am gonna get in trouble a second time due to that bug.

[Corsayr]

20 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

@Corsayr Turns out, to make them you have to have a book.  So I added the book to my inventory so I could make a new set that would hopefully have the keywords. I don't know how you're supposed to get the book in normal play though.  The downside of the book is that if I try to even hover over it in my inventory, immediate CTD.  So I made the armor then removed the book via console.  So thats definately a bug.  

 

Further misbehavior from my visit to Sovngarde, I now can't pay a toll to leave, it keeps telling me I already paid, but if I leave it says "the guards will soon notice that you've left" and then later "the guards will have noticed you are gone by now."  So I am gonna get in trouble a second time due to that bug.

 

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[Monoman1]

7 hours ago, bathoz said:

So, I'm (after about a year and half) going to jump back into building a modded game. And this mod, plus probably devious followers is the inspiration to do it. The plan is a female something (mage, maybe) and see how far I can go. What other devious mods beyond structural ones would people think are good combinations?

Slaverun maybe? And set auto start in SLS. 

I find it's pushing my new character out to other towns to sell (clothing) stuff and has a nice sense of impending doom as more towns become enslaved. It can also increase your bounty if you forget to strip off which might get you evicted. 

It's not for everyone though. 

4 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Turns out, to make them you have to have a book.  So I added the book to my inventory so I could make a new set that would hopefully have the keywords. I don't know how you're supposed to get the book in normal play though.  The downside of the book is that if I try to even hover over it in my inventory, immediate CTD.  So I made the armor then removed the book via console.  So thats definately a bug.  

That's not really specifically anything to do with the version posted here. The only thing I did was add keywords. You'd have the same problem with the base version. My pc does lag a little when loading the image but it doesn't CTD. 

Try this: 

It just replaces the book cover with a vanilla book. 

4 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Further misbehavior from my visit to Sovngarde, I now can't pay a toll to leave, it keeps telling me I already paid, but if I leave it says "the guards will soon notice that you've left" and then later "the guards will have noticed you are gone by now."  So I am gonna get in trouble a second time due to that bug.

Try turning toll evasion off and back on again. 

There are going to be issues when you get ported out of the town for reasons that legitimately aren't your fault. And mods, potentially, can add many, many more ways. Simple slavery is one (which I might be able to fix). DCLs hogtie and bondage adventure quests are two more which are a lot more tricky. I haven't figured out a good way to fix this yet. If I 'loosen' the rules I'll probably add ways for you to exploit the system. 

6 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Also, I haven't been getting bikini armor experience for the whole time I've had the mod loaded, yet I've been wearing a Blades bikini set.  It was crafted before the mod was added but I thought that once I used the new Bikini Armors esp that my armor would get the new keywords.

It should. 

I'd check that your keywords are making it through to the winning override. Load your complete load order in tesedit and make sure _SLS_BikiniArmor keyword is attached to the winning override. 

If you use requiem you'll have to rebuild it's patch. 

 

Also, you won't gain bikini experience if you are wearing some non bikini armor. You can test this as the bikini curse works the same way. If your stamina is draining then you're wearing something forbidden - you also won't gain bikini experience. 

[Reesewow]

1 hour ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Further misbehavior from my visit to Sovngarde, I now can't pay a toll to leave, it keeps telling me I already paid, but if I leave it says "the guards will soon notice that you've left" and then later "the guards will have noticed you are gone by now."  So I am gonna get in trouble a second time due to that bug.

I think the issue here is that if you pay the toll, the mod expects you to leave shortly after.  If you walk away from the gate and go do more stuff in the city, another guard will see you and restart the toll quest, but the gate will still be unlocked and waiting for you to leave.

 

I *think* if you had left and immediately re-entered the gate may have re-locked and reset and let you pay the toll again.  I had something similar happen to me once when I accidentally pre-paid my toll and stayed in the city afterwards - I needed to leave and re-enter to pay the toll and clear the sneak out detection.

 

I imagine a way to try to fix the initial bug would be to add all the Skuldafn and Sovngarde cells to Whiterun's formlist.  Perhaps triggering a new toll could also re-lock the gates and reset the toll payment mechanics.

 

But your PC *did* blatantly disregard the laws about helpless females leaving without paying the toll - even if you did it on the back of a dragon in front of the Jarl himself to save the world.  I bet you even did it without an escort!  Just lucky they didn't have to send the city guard to come rescue your PC - time to tear up that weapons licence and confiscate that sword crafted from the spine of a dragon.  I do love the goofiness that can happen with a high-level character running SL mods. 

[WhatRules]

On 9/19/2019 at 1:21 PM, -alpha- said:

Heres a 7z with 8 versions of the heart tat

4 black and 4 colour

chest hip abs and back.

 

I tied positioning it as best as possible to avoid deforming too much but your mileage may vary due to your body morphs.

 

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Does that say you're a heartless person, or what is the meaning?

[WhatRules]

On 9/15/2019 at 8:43 AM, Lupine00 said:

I'd vote for zero effort spent on Solstheim for SLS. Leave it be and then that time can go to better events in better places that most people will use all the time.

 

Another things SLS could look at is doing something of its own for carriages, so you could leave the prices alone (keep whatever the player has set) but add a "travel permit" like a license, and if you don't have one, you can take the carriage but will be punished later (and possibly shipped back where you came from).

I think you could add content for the standard features like toll collectors and enforcers for Solstheim. It wouldn't take much work, but otherwise leave it alone. Requiem doesn't even cover it yet.

 

If you take the carriage without a travel license and a guard catch you, you're forced to work as a "horse" for awhile, as in Quick as you like. You get outfitted with complete pony gear to make it more kinky.

 

 

 

 

[FoMK11SD]

Quick idea for solstheim.

Solstheim isnt governed by skyrim law but you're still crossing borders (and the borders are guarded, just think of the opening scene) you could get checked upon boarding the boat kinda like how you get checked before boarding a airplane, when you arrive in solstheim you wont have any unlicensed weapons and armors but are free to find whatever in solstheim but upon getting back to skyrim you'll get checked again.

So skyrim licenses only apply before entering and after you exit solstheim. 

and atleast it would be lore friendly.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

That's not really specifically anything to do with the version posted here. The only thing I did was add keywords. You'd have the same problem with the base version. My pc does lag a little when loading the image but it doesn't CTD. 

 

Try turning toll evasion off and back on again. 

There are going to be issues when you get ported out of the town for reasons that legitimately aren't your fault. And mods, potentially, can add many, many more ways. Simple slavery is one (which I might be able to fix). DCLs hogtie and bondage adventure quests are two more which are a lot more tricky. I haven't figured out a good way to fix this yet. If I 'loosen' the rules I'll probably add ways for you to exploit the system. 

It should. 

I'd check that your keywords are making it through to the winning override. Load your complete load order in tesedit and make sure _SLS_BikiniArmor keyword is attached to the winning override. 

If you use requiem you'll have to rebuild it's patch. 

 

Also, you won't gain bikini experience if you are wearing some non bikini armor. You can test this as the bikini curse works the same way. If your stamina is draining then you're wearing something forbidden - you also won't gain bikini experience. 

 

Turns out I had a version conflict, I had installed version 1.7 of the bikini armor, I'm not sure how or where I got it.  I've updated to 1.8d and reinstalled your patch over it. No more CTD, I found one of the books (they were missing when I went searching, that was my first hint that I had done something wrong.)  

 

I've turned off toll evasion and will turn it back on when I get back to a city.  Thanks for that, I didn't want to get scolded again.

 

What gives you bikini armor exp?  Just running, or is it being in combat?  And do the non-standard slot parts of bikini armor still count as bikini armor and not regular armor?  Like the abs, gorget, pauldrons, etc.  

[-alpha-]

1 hour ago, saltshade said:

Does that say you're a heartless person, or what is the meaning?

Nah if you look a few posts back it was a style suggestion.

Its meant to represent your mana being sealed away which is why theres a blue~ish option.

 

[Monoman1]

19 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

What gives you bikini armor exp?  Just running, or is it being in combat?  And do the non-standard slot parts of bikini armor still count as bikini armor and not regular armor?  Like the abs, gorget, pauldrons, etc. 

Just wearing them + time. You can check your exp in the Mcm, then wait an hour or two and check again. 

And yes, all parts count as bikini armor. 

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, saltshade said:

If you take the carriage without a travel license and a guard catch you, you're forced to work as a "horse" for awhile, as in Quick as you like. You get outfitted with complete pony gear to make it more kinky.

Do you know if Quick as you like has a mod event I can send to start you off in it?

And wasn't there a quick as you like redux? I can't seem to find it. My google-fu is weak. 

1 hour ago, FoMK11SD said:

Quick idea for solstheim.

Solstheim isnt governed by skyrim law but you're still crossing borders (and the borders are guarded, just think of the opening scene) you could get checked upon boarding the boat kinda like how you get checked before boarding a airplane, when you arrive in solstheim you wont have any unlicensed weapons and armors but are free to find whatever in solstheim but upon getting back to skyrim you'll get checked again.

So skyrim licenses only apply before entering and after you exit solstheim. 

and atleast it would be lore friendly.

Honestly, I'm not very interested in Solstheim so something like this might be a decent compromise. 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

30 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Do you know if Quick as you like has a mod event I can send to start you off in it?

And wasn't there a quick as you like redux? I can't seem to find it. My google-fu is weak. 

Honestly, I'm not very interested in Solstheim so something like this might be a decent compromise. 

I don't know if QAYL has an event to start it, but if I remember correctly it wasn't really finished so it left your game in a permastuck state.  Not sure if  you should link to it currently.  That said, the author did recently say he was interested in continuing or finishing it, not sure if any progress has been made on that.

[Corsayr]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Also, you won't gain bikini experience if you are wearing some non bikini armor. You can test this as the bikini curse works the same way. If your stamina is draining then you're wearing something forbidden - you also won't gain bikini experience. 

This might be a problem. Some of the bikini armor sets like iron, do not have some necessary parts. Like boots

 

There is no bikini iron boot so early game when you are stuck with just iron you have to go barefoot or no xp for joo! ?

[Monoman1]

10 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

This might be a problem. Some of the bikini armor sets like iron, do not have some necessary parts. Like boots

 

There is no bikini iron boot so early game when you are stuck with just iron you have to go barefoot or no xp for joo! ?

A classy pair of heels will be fine

(Clothes work. Just not in the body slot)

And yea. I've been thinking about it in the back of my mind. 

[WhatRules]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Do you know if Quick as you like has a mod event I can send to start you off in it?

And wasn't there a quick as you like redux? I can't seem to find it. My google-fu is weak.

Well, I haven't tested the mod coz it's so alpha-ish atm, so I have no idea. I couldn't find a redux version either, and I consider my google-fu to be at least decent.

 

When I said Quick as you like, I didn't mean to hook into the mod itself. More like a mini-imitation with your own rules, but I understand if you have too much work on your hands.

[FoMK11SD]

quick as you like hasnt been updated in ages and i remember playing it with DD 3.0. It starts with you talking to a guy in solitudes inn who drugs you and starts the first part of the quest where you get locked up all your items ported to a chest and you have to make your way to there after which some more quest stuff happens its not like sluts (made by the same guy) 

[Reesewow]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Do you know if Quick as you like has a mod event I can send to start you off in it?

And wasn't there a quick as you like redux? I can't seem to find it. My google-fu is weak. 

Honestly, I'm not very interested in Solstheim so something like this might be a decent compromise. 

You are possibly thinking of SLUTS Redux.

 

 

This is what I would recommend using if you wanted a pony-play soft dependency.  QAYL was the pre-cursor to the original version of SLUTS - SLUTS redux is essentially just the SLUTS mod polished up and generally made feature-complete and less buggy.

 

It isn't actively supported anymore AFAIK, but it has a robust list of features and has been the most reliable of these types of mods in my experiences (not that there are many to choose from).  I keep it active in my load order as a moneymaking option.  It also uses the newer ponyplay DD animations, has some basic frostfall/needs support and crime/simple slavery outcomes.  The crime options I believe have some bugs with the dialogues linking the systems together,, but there have been some community updates in the mod thread to hopefully fix this (I haven't actually triggered these events since installing the fixes however).

 

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Honestly, I'm not very interested in Solstheim so something like this might be a decent compromise. 

 

You could probably accomplish this simply by putting an enforcer on the docks right beside the Solsteim boat.  No need to tie into the quests or the DLC itself at that point, and even in a game without Dragonborn DLC it would still make sense that the city would be policing its port entry.  It would also catch players that simply fast-travel between the zones, since the zone out point is still on those docks.

 

[Monoman1]

39 minutes ago, Reesewow said:

You are possibly thinking of SLUTS Redux

That's what I was thinking of. Thanks that was annoying me. 

[Corsayr]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

A classy pair of heels will be fine

(Clothes work. Just not in the body slot)

And yea. I've been thinking about it in the back of my mind. 

Fawn's new shoes! ?

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