Devious Followers (8 June 2019)

[donttouchmethere]

1 hour ago, Hanshurtig11 said:

Helped me as well. Deinstalled, renamed, reinstalled (without saveclean) and Menu was there.

For those who dont find the diffirence, its a blank at the end of the filename ^^

thx for beeing perceptive =D

2 hours ago, CGi said:

Sometimes MCM doesn't pickup new MCM menues immediatly but saving, quitting the game and then reloading the last save usually makes it kick in.

nothing new there

[Hanshurtig11]

For me the armbinderpart of the deal never worked well. It does not trigger when getting near town or inside and NOT wearing any clothes.

When i am inside a town (or near) and put on clothes the event triggers (clothes get ripped off, thrown to ground and armbinder is equipped).

Not sure if its possible, but think it would be better if the cloth would stay in inventory instead of dropped to the ground.

Another thing is, that even in towns, you can just ask to have the armbinder removed a secound after it got equipped. And its off. Not to tricky

Thou thanx for keeping the mod progress and getting nicer and nicer.

 

ps. a personel tip for DF user... try having the Dollmaker from DCL as your keyholder.. makes things much more fun ^^  regards

[Reesewow]

11 hours ago, Lozeak said:

Glad people can see the content like a week after I released it. I'll fix that bug soon enough(prolly tomorrow) I know what it is anyway.

Thank a ton for the bug reports :D.

Heh, to be fair there may have been plenty that didn't clean save update like I did and had no issues with the deal.  Wouldn't be Skyrim modding without bugs, and the fact the mod works so well despite all the custom followers/events ect people must be abusing it with is impressive.  

 

Haven't tried the newest update yet, but it sounds like a great feature for someone like me that has a hard time finding enough gold theft events in my preferred mods.

[valcon767]

ohh update  ... again  ... still have to wait to install it due to being on DCL's "Bound Queen" quest right now with a whopping high willpower of 4 (highest i have

managed to get it to since finding all her items on that questt).  currently in the wilds so i cannot do a "clean install" and i know by the time i make it out of the

wilds i will be back down to 0-1 willpower yet again and in deals.  

 

the only "problem" i have run into while working on that quest is that i "have" to take deals (low willpower) and sometimes i have to make a save and reload

to get a different deal, one i can actually do with those quest restraints on me.  there is no problem with this mod, just that getting a deal requiring me to equip

piercings while wearing a non-removable chastity items = mega debt increases that can not be avoided.  while i know i could "pause this mod" i have just chosen

to do it slightly differently.  i still end up taking deals, just not ones there is no way i could possibly comply with (until that gear is off me).

what makes it funny (in a way) is i have seen that deal pop up  6 times now and it is the only 1 i cannot comply with. lol

 

so in conclusion the only deal the DCL "Bound Queen" quest actually prevents complying with is the piercings deals.  the rest of the deals can be taken, and complied with,

although if you take the Slut deal to level 3 you will have to equip an armbinder manually to comply (due to it not being auto-equipped if you are already naked,

and the Bound Queen quest keeps you naked already).

 

will upgrade to 1.33 when i make it back to town (or somewhere i can do a proper update procedure).

thanks again 

[Lozeak]

53 minutes ago, valcon767 said:

ohh update  ... again  ... still have to wait to install it due to being on DCL's "Bound Queen" quest right now with a whopping high willpower of 4 (highest i have

managed to get it to since finding all her items on that questt).  currently in the wilds so i cannot do a "clean install" and i know by the time i make it out of the

wilds i will be back down to 0-1 willpower yet again and in deals.  

 

the only "problem" i have run into while working on that quest is that i "have" to take deals (low willpower) and sometimes i have to make a save and reload

to get a different deal, one i can actually do with those quest restraints on me.  there is no problem with this mod, just that getting a deal requiring me to equip

piercings while wearing a non-removable chastity items = mega debt increases that can not be avoided.  while i know i could "pause this mod" i have just chosen

to do it slightly differently.  i still end up taking deals, just not ones there is no way i could possibly comply with (until that gear is off me).

what makes it funny (in a way) is i have seen that deal pop up  6 times now and it is the only 1 i cannot comply with. lol

 

so in conclusion the only deal the DCL "Bound Queen" quest actually prevents complying with is the piercings deals.  the rest of the deals can be taken, and complied with,

although if you take the Slut deal to level 3 you will have to equip an armbinder manually to comply (due to it not being auto-equipped if you are already naked,

and the Bound Queen quest keeps you naked already).

 

will upgrade to 1.33 when i make it back to town (or somewhere i can do a proper update procedure).

thanks again 

Will make it so Belt/Bra make it possible to follow deal.

Issues where you can't follow the deal because of other devices is a issue 100% will want the mod to deal with because not really fair for your PC to get time off from her follower cause other devices. Always report these.

 

2 hours ago, Hanshurtig11 said:

For me the armbinderpart of the deal never worked well. It does not trigger when getting near town or inside and NOT wearing any clothes.

When i am inside a town (or near) and put on clothes the event triggers (clothes get ripped off, thrown to ground and armbinder is equipped).

Not sure if its possible, but think it would be better if the cloth would stay in inventory instead of dropped to the ground.

Another thing is, that even in towns, you can just ask to have the armbinder removed a secound after it got equipped. And its off. Not to tricky

Thou thanx for keeping the mod progress and getting nicer and nicer.

 

ps. a personel tip for DF user... try having the Dollmaker from DCL as your keyholder.. makes things much more fun ^^  regards

I think I'll make it so they don't get dropped to the floor for that deal because the follower strips you.

As for the armbinder I plan to use the rope items when the new DD updates I'll update it so that the only way would be to struggle (it'll be a custom item so I'll configure the settings so it's not too annoying )

As for it not firing right, it's likely down to script lag, it's just one of those things /shrug.

[Clea Strange]

Is this fully compatible with Cursed Loot because I've been using this with Cursed Loot, Slut Redux, captured dreams, Sanguine Debauchery

[xboronx]

I don't know if this is already in the DD betas, but in case they are not planned as DD variant (like Heretical's great items got integrated into DD) i think Tara has some great rope bondage in ZAP 8+.

Those would make for a great deal series imho, level 1 arms only tied by rope, lvl 2 elbow bondage gets added and lvl 3 or 4 the mean breast bondage rope.

[Corsayr]

1 hour ago, Lozeak said:

I think I'll make it so they don't get dropped to the floor for that deal because the follower strips you.

As for the armbinder I plan to use the rope items when the new DD updates I'll update it so that the only way would be to struggle (it'll be a custom item so I'll configure the settings so it's not too annoying )

As for it not firing right, it's likely down to script lag, it's just one of those things /shrug.

It would be really cool if your follower actually took the clothes and you had to ask for them back.

 

Might even lead to a little mini-game where your follower makes you do something to get them back. 

 

like:

 

"Can I have my clothes back, please? Everyone is starring!" "Sure but only if you can catch me!" 

and then you follower runs away from you and you have to chase them. 

 

or

 

"Can I have my clothes back, please? Everyone is starring!" "You'll have to ask that guy over there, I gave them to him."

Then set a quest on a random NPC requiring you to convince the stranger to give your clothes back. Depending on relationship rank to that person and their moral level it can be anything from sure here ya go to, well ... other things...

 

or

 

"Can I have my clothes back, please? Everyone is starring!" "I think that guard has them, you'll have to talk to them"

Similar to the random NPC, make it a random guard. Chances are at this point you probably have some kind of bounty on you, and talking to guards is a good way to end up in jail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lozeak]

1 hour ago, Hiderius said:

Is this fully compatible with Cursed Loot because I've been using this with Cursed Loot, Slut Redux, captured dreams, Sanguine Debauchery

DCL I use it with and it should be. The only thing it might not be is with the custom followers from DCL. 

SD - i dunno but use the pause function if things go bad.

CD - Yep but the devices it makes you wear for a long time can effect my mod so it may not be the best,

Slut Redux - dunno that mod.

 

 

1 hour ago, xboronx said:

I don't know if this is already in the DD betas, but in case they are not planned as DD variant (like Heretical's great items got integrated into DD) i think Tara has some great rope bondage in ZAP 8+.

Those would make for a great deal series imho, level 1 arms only tied by rope, lvl 2 elbow bondage gets added and lvl 3 or 4 the mean breast bondage rope.

 

Zap/Zaz/pretty much anything outside of DD/Sexlab will not be apart of this mod because bugfixing is impossible. Devious world I will use more resources if I ever get to that.

 

14 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

It would be really cool if your follower actually took the clothes and you had to ask for them back.

 

Might even lead to a little mini-game where your follower makes you do something to get them back. 

 

like:

 

"Can I have my clothes back, please? Everyone is starring!" "Sure but only if you can catch me!" 

and then you follower runs away from you and you have to chase them. 

 

or

 

"Can I have my clothes back, please? Everyone is starring!" "You'll have to ask that guy over there, I gave them to him."

Then set a quest on a random NPC requiring you to convince the stranger to give your clothes back. Depending on relationship rank to that person and their moral level it can be anything from sure here ya go to, well ... other things...

 

or

 

"Can I have my clothes back, please? Everyone is starring!" "I think that guard has them, you'll have to talk to them"

Similar to the random NPC, make it a random guard. Chances are at this point you probably have some kind of bounty on you, and talking to guards is a good way to end up in jail.

 

 

I'm actully thinking of reworking the deals to make them more fun (for your follower  ) so i'll note this stuff down.

 

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tbh guys don't bother with 1.33, I've added a lot to the Peircing deal that makes it like amazing :). Will release soon.

[CGi]

9 minutes ago, Lozeak said:

Slut Redux - dunno that mod.

S.L.U.T.S. Redux

9 minutes ago, Lozeak said:

tbh guys don't bother with 1.33, I've added a lot to the Peircing deal that makes it like amazing :). Will release soon.

To late. -.-'

[Reesewow]

1 hour ago, CGi said:

To late. -.-'

Haha, we're all eager beavers when it comes to updating Devious Followers.  I'll definitely try your EFF patch down the road when Lozeak decides he's mostly happy with the state of DF, I think it would be nice to iron out any quirks between the mods.  So thanks for sharing your patches with us so fast.

[Lozeak]

So updated, I really like the peircing deal before but now .... omg, it's so good.

 

As for when I'll stop adding stuff..... haha never thought me adding content would be an issue for people for now 1.23a i consider a complete build and 1.35 a beta.

 

i have a lot of time off over the next week so I may add more to the mod ( I do want to ). to be fair I'm modding cause I'm bored and scripting is relaxing Dark souls remastered will be out soon so I'm guessing I'll mod less then and some Overwatch events. Also, it's summer i need to go out more !

 

O yea,I know sluts, pretty sure they work fine together.

[donttouchmethere]

crazy, you create updates faster than i can pile up debts

[valcon767]

@Lozeak

compatibility report for Cursed Loot

 

it should work fine most of the time with exceptions noted:

 

1 - DCL custom followers have their own follower stuff (Leon, Leah, Sasha if dominant will equip their own type of devices on the player) and dialogues.

 

2 - Bound Queen - equips collar, arm cuffs, leg cuffs, chastity belt, chastity bra on player that cannot be removed until that quest is finished, causing issues

           with deals due to being unable to equip items.  should only affect piercing deals (ie you cannot equip a piercing if you are wearing a chastity device), 

           player is required to be naked until quest is completed.

 

3 - Damsel In Distresss - equips the player in a full set off DD stuff (not sure about piercings though) and dumps the player in the middle of nowhere to find

           her (player's) own way back, including an inescapable armbinder.  if it equips piercings it should not interfere, but the player has to work her own

           way out of most of the items it equips.

 

4 - Cursed Collar - will eventually put the player in a full set of "cursed items" (they are DD items) should not actually block any deals but player may have to change from

           regular DD items to the "cursed" items along the way, and follower will not remove ANYTHING if you are wearing any of the "cursed" items.

 

5 - Slave Collar, Slut Collar, and Striptease Collar - should not interfere with DF at all (they are just collars and do not prevent other DD items from being worn)

 

6 - Rubber Doll quest - it will "enclose" the pc as it grows and may interfere until it is complete.  it adds stuff as it grows on the PC so possibly may interfere with deals

 

7 - High Security Restraints, Exhibitionist Suit, Living Armor (parasite)  - follower will NOT be able to remove these and they may block some deals due to

           conflicting devices or the inability to equip devices .  High Security Restraints require the right keys and a blacksmith's help to remove, Exhibitionist

           Suit just takes a lot of keys, and the Living Armor takes a special key that you have to find the recipe and then make the key to remove.

 

8 - Dollmaker quests - Dollmaker will equip DD items on player for duration of her quests and may cause problems with deals due to conflicting devices or inability

            to equip other items similar to Bound Queen.

 

hope this information is helpful

 

edit

oh yeah Sluts Redux - may have conflicts if trying to take a deal while on a "cargo run".  if you are on a cargo run and try to take a deal it would be 

similar to the Bound Queen of DCL (chastity devices are equipped already so player cannot equip piercings).

end edit

 

edit 2 

for players running into any of these problems they can be worked around (only when absolutely necessary) by using DF's "pause mod" button.

end edit 2

 

edit 3

the most likely conflict with DF is inability to equip piercings if devices worn prevent it.  (other than DCL Custom Followers).

end edit 3

 

[Reesewow]

2 minutes ago, Lozeak said:

As for when I'll stop adding stuff..... haha never thought me adding content would be an issue for people for now 1.23a i consider a complete build and 1.35 a beta.

 

i have a lot of time off over the next week so I may add more to the mod ( I do want to ). to be fair I'm modding cause I'm bored and scripting is relaxing Dark souls remastered will be out soon so I'm guessing I'll mod less then and some Overwatch events. Also, it's summer i need to go out more !

Yea, IMO putting the (stable) tag on a version is probably a good way to mark a build as "safe and good for translations/patches ect".  That way you can keep doing small patches as you add stuff, and people that want to make translations ect can have some idea of what versions are more stable/less likely to be buggy.

 

Looking forward to what these new piercings do... my PC is probably getting nervous.

[steelmagpie]

Update woohoo...  All this testing is making me a happy man :D..  Thanks as always..

[Lozeak]

1 hour ago, valcon767 said:

@Lozeak

compatibility report for Cursed Loot

 

it should work fine most of the time with exceptions noted:

 

1 - DCL custom followers have their own follower stuff (Leon, Leah, Sasha if dominant will equip their own type of devices on the player) and dialogues.

 

2 - Bound Queen - equips collar, arm cuffs, leg cuffs, chastity belt, chastity bra on player that cannot be removed until that quest is finished, causing issues

           with deals due to being unable to equip items.  should only affect piercing deals (ie you cannot equip a piercing if you are wearing a chastity device), 

           player is required to be naked until quest is completed.

 

3 - Damsel In Distresss - equips the player in a full set off DD stuff (not sure about piercings though) and dumps the player in the middle of nowhere to find

           her (player's) own way back, including an inescapable armbinder.  if it equips piercings it should not interfere, but the player has to work her own

           way out of most of the items it equips.

 

4 - Cursed Collar - will eventually put the player in a full set of "cursed items" (they are DD items) should not actually block any deals but player may have to change from

           regular DD items to the "cursed" items along the way, and follower will not remove ANYTHING if you are wearing any of the "cursed" items.

 

5 - Slave Collar, Slut Collar, and Striptease Collar - should not interfere with DF at all (they are just collars and do not prevent other DD items from being worn)

 

6 - Rubber Doll quest - it will "enclose" the pc as it grows and may interfere until it is complete.  it adds stuff as it grows on the PC so possibly may interfere with deals

 

7 - High Security Restraints, Exhibitionist Suit, Living Armor (parasite)  - follower will NOT be able to remove these and they may block some deals due to

           conflicting devices or the inability to equip devices .  High Security Restraints require the right keys and a blacksmith's help to remove, Exhibitionist

           Suit just takes a lot of keys, and the Living Armor takes a special key that you have to find the recipe and then make the key to remove.

 

8 - Dollmaker quests - Dollmaker will equip DD items on player for duration of her quests and may cause problems with deals due to conflicting devices or inability

            to equip other items similar to Bound Queen.

 

hope this information is helpful

 

edit

oh yeah Sluts Redux - may have conflicts if trying to take a deal while on a "cargo run".  if you are on a cargo run and try to take a deal it would be 

similar to the Bound Queen of DCL (chastity devices are equipped already so player cannot equip piercings).

end edit

 

edit 2 

for players running into any of these problems they can be worked around (only when absolutely necessary) by using DF's "pause mod" button.

end edit 2

 

edit 3

the most likely conflict with DF is inability to equip piercings if devices worn prevent it.  (other than DCL Custom Followers).

end edit 3

 

1. Yes there will be issues. Not really worried about just pause DF if your gonna use DCL followers

 

The rest are handled in my mod if they are not let me know for example....

 

Deals look for any device (does not need to be the one given to you) so if you have a Quest Device it can work in place of the deal devices.

If harness is blocking a corset the deal considers a harness a corset.

In last update. The piercing deal has work around for Chasity bra/belt (basically stage 1/2 the bra/belt conceal if your pierced so the follower won't punish you for it)

Then on stage 3 they will help you equip a piercings if you can't.

I also had to added like 20 messages to the game to deal with bra/belts when the follower checks if there equipped.

 

The Devices on Slut redux shouldn't break DK as long as there keyworded correctly (Knowing the author they probably are anyway) 

 

Either way, from day one I reading the FAQ from DD code, I made sure to follow the keyword guide to make sure my mod is compatible with other DD mods.

 

As a side note my mode equips no quest/block generic items so other mods don't need to worry about it and there for maximize compatibility.

 

1 hour ago, Reesewow said:

Yea, IMO putting the (stable) tag on a version is probably a good way to mark a build as "safe and good for translations/patches ect".  That way you can keep doing small patches as you add stuff, and people that want to make translations ect can have some idea of what versions are more stable/less likely to be buggy.

 

Looking forward to what these new piercings do... my PC is probably getting nervous.

I did it's in the title of the file page. people will probably miss but /shrug.

[Corsayr]

1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

crazy, you create updates faster than i can pile up debts

Sorry, Lydia, I know I owe you a ton of cash, and stuff... but Lozeak added another update and I need to do a clean save.

 

Oh well, you can charge me extra next time around.

 

Also

 

First!

Spoiler

 

 

[xboronx]

3 hours ago, Lozeak said:

Zap/Zaz/pretty much anything outside of DD/Sexlab will not be apart of this mod because bugfixing is impossible. Devious world I will use more resources if I ever get to that.

 

 

 

Ah too bad, but very understandable. I'll ask in the DDI/X thread then if they are planned as DD variants

[Lozeak]

30 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

Sorry, Lydia, I know I owe you a ton of cash, and stuff... but Lozeak added another update and I need to do a clean save.

 

Oh well, you can charge me extra next time around.

 

Also

 

First!

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Thank you ^^. 

 

19 minutes ago, xboronx said:

 

Ah too bad, but very understandable. I'll ask in the DDI/X thread then if they are planned as DD variants

They have feature locked the next update which will have rope devices in when it's released.

[Lozeak]

11 minutes ago, CGi said:

Devious Followers V1.35 beta - Cleaned, Localized & USLEEP patched.

Partial German translation included. Scripts are still not localized.

 

This is an FOMOD version with the following options:
- localized and unlocalized plugin

- EFF patch

- optional source scripts

- optional MO support

 

Devious Followers V1.35 beta (2.2MB)

So sorry just relised I forgot the new scripts. Thank you so much for your hard work.

[CGi]

1 minute ago, Lozeak said:

So sorry just relised I forgot the new scripts. Thank you so much for your hard work.

Shit happens. ^^

And if it's only missing files and not missing edits in the plugin then i can simply update the whole package.

[Guest]

I get an error like this trying to open w/ CK: File: ..\TES Shared\misc\BGSLocalizedString.cpp

 

Line 2871

LOCALIZATION: Error opening or reading strings file

 

I installed CGi's version which said it should be openable with MO, but it didn't fix the problem

 

EDIT: Problem was on my end, unrelated to the mod

[Lozeak]

8 minutes ago, CGi said:

Shit happens. ^^

And if it's only missing files and not missing edits in the plugin then i can simply update the whole package.

just the files.

[Lupine00]

I actually played most of the DCL quests using DF, but with DF 1.15, not the latest.

I didn't have any major problems, though I expected them

 

I didn't play Damsel in Distress, as it's known to be flaky ATM.

 

I've been playtesting a lot, as I wanted to see all the dialogues to make sure they worked the way I expected when I futzed with them.

 

The main issue is that once you get any of the DCL quest items on, the follower stops helping you, which makes the follower a bit of a dead-weight.

That they won't remove an armbinder if you are in Queen Sarah's is just a pain. It was the reason I hired them... "You had one job follower! One job!"

 

Originally, I was super fearful of getting into an item conflict, but as was established, you only need an item of the right type.

The rubber doll suit does have a collar, and you can put cuffs over it, so it works in almost all cases.

 

I don't know about any of the new piercing stuff as I haven't used it.

 

I found you can equip boots you probably shouldn't be able to, and remove boots, even though they appear to be cuffed in place.

In most cases, DD4 will never block you adding an item, just removing one.

 

The follower gives you new cuffs to wear, or a new collar to wear, or new corset, even when you're already locked in something.

 

I think it would be better if the follower checked first.

 

Also, follower will remove cuffs or gags for you (in 1.15) even if you have a cuffs or gag deal. (Sorry, wrote collar by mistake).

The follower will never remove collars, even if they are completely vanilla restraints, which seems odd, but is probably intentional.

 

In 1.15 the follower would never remove piercings, or cuffs.

Another issue I had was the follower would never bind my wrists/arms in cities and never mentioned it once the deal was made.

This was reproducible.

 

However, once you're enslaved, problems can arise, though DF has some ways to handle this.

I certainly didn't test DCL quests while enslaved in DF, and that would probably be useful.

 

I really like the system where the follower will remove items that block their own...

But the Town Collar just didn't seem to work as intended in 1.15 - seemed designed to enforce crawling (from the text) but did not enforce or allow crawling at all.

Instead, the HDT chain just screwed around like a bolt of lightning (no doubt a result of the 255 max rate "fix" for disappearing characters).

I'd be inclined to just not have that chain, and have differently described "magic".

 

The idea of simply going with it, and forcing new rules if you get cursed while enslaved is good too.

 

Really, the "problem" is that being enslaved is just too much fun. If it all worked perfectly, it would be the gameplay that SLAV failed to deliver.

Should there be more incentive not to get enslaved? I don't know. Maybe how it is, is pretty much spot on?

 

If you're using SL Adventures, and you make collar = rape always, then not much change for you in towns.

 

The biggest hit you take in towns from anything, is the gag, which can (with some mods) debuff speech a lot.

It impacts your earning ability substantially, but the gag is a deal option, not slavery. You can get enslaved without a gag.

 

So... I really think slavery should include an obligatory gag, to even the playing field. Right now, it's mitts, collar and boots.

I think the follower's gag should be a ring gag, so oral still possible, and needs still compatible without special code.

I also think the DF gag should be special, like the mitts, and debuff speech - but only if an option is ticked - if you already have a gag speech debuffer you don't want that.

It matters, because DF is all about the cash. Always.

 

 

If there's a technical area things could be cleaned up and improve compatibility with all other DD mods, it's in what devices a follower will remove and when.