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2 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

I believe you are m issing the point of the original comment and purpose of my comments. I wanted a clearer view of what was Political. The current view IMO was so broad that many can accidentally violate it. Not that we didn't change or that times in the past was different.  however, I do see how you were steered in that direction with my reminiscing. 

Yes it was much of a free for all before. There are many times that rules and enforcement were done that quite frankly kept me here as what was happening was something I didn't want to be even remotely connected to. Things come and go.  The site will go in the directions it will go.  It is up the members to decide how m uch they want to interact with the site. Always has been.  One of the previous remarks that I clicked like on helped clarify some of the direction the current "no politics' rule is going into.  The only thing I can possibly ask I would guess going forward is a clarification of where some of the post went wrong when any sanction occurs. Particularly if I am in error of the site. I am pretty sure that others woudl appreciate some comments public or private as to what happened and why. How else can someone learn from their mistakes. make proper judgement of what is going on and possibly prevent future occurrences?

 

On a side note... I will comment on my surprise that so far none of this has been deleted. Which was habit previously when things seemed to hit the rails from the moderator viewpoint.

 

 

I didn't forget your point, I just wanted to point out that the rules kept changing and were expanded upon for a reason.

2 hours ago, gregathit said:

As for politics, looking at the moderator logs, folks were getting warnings for it all the way back to the founding of the site.  Nasty fights were pretty common.  Same thing for religious discussions and so on.  And Spam Bots.  Holy hell there were a ton of those.

 

I'm not sure how people were getting warnings for politics before said rule was announced. If the wayback machine is correct, that rule didn't exist prior to August 2013.

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16 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

You didn't fuck with those people because they knew how to rip yo bitch ass to shreds. :lol:

All those people got chased off when the 'kinder-gentler' LL pandering horseshit started.  Me, you, CaptainCobra...we're just about all that's left from when the site was fun.  Too much 'that might hurt someone's feelings' goin on now.  God forbid some SJW hypocrite comes here for his rape mods and reads something he doesn't like.

🤡Clown world in full effect.🤡

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51 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

SOCIAL justice warriors.  Trying to make something about politics when it isn't just because someone doesn't like what I posted...what for it...proves the point I was making. 🤡

Social Media Worriers. Just have a laugh at their silliness then ignore them. If they had any real influence here, either most of the content would have been removed from the download sections or the sit itself would vanish from the Internet. 

 

If anything, the fact that their sites show up when searching for LoversLab means that their more skeptical users will be pointed in the direction of this site and may like what they see rather than go into conniption fits. 

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52 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

SOCIAL justice warriors.  Trying to make something about politics when it isn't just because someone doesn't like what I posted...what for it...proves the point I was making. 🤡

You're mistaken. Neither am I an SJW nor do I dislike what you post. In fact, I'd be sad to see your content gone because you're my favorite content creator - at least as far as posts can be considered content - so I'm glad that despite your numerous claims to be done with LL you never followed through with it. You are, however, free to believe whatever you want to believe, of course.

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3 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

I'm not sure how people were getting warnings for politics before said rule was announced. If the wayback machine is correct, that rule didn't exist prior to August 2013.

While discussion of it was not against the rules, folks took that discussion WAY too far and the discussion became a full fledged brawl (harken to that scene from Ron Burgundy):

Spoiler

 

 

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Oh, for goodness sake. Now Kurt Russel is being hassled about his having a no politics policy when engaging in interviews and chatting with the public at large.

Even the rich and famous don't seem to be able to escape this nonsense these days. 

It looks as if he'll be playing Punished Snake after all.

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2 minutes ago, gregathit said:

You would not believe how many reports we get every week whining about rape and bestiality mods.  

No, I WOULD believe it.  Google BuzzFeed Sims4 and look at the amount of traffic it gets.  Sims4 on BuzzFeed, Sims4 on LL.

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13 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

From who? Users within LL or from the outside? If so, how?

Users within LL.  Most are very recent additions obviously.

13 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

What? That they don't do enough? And you say....?

They whine about it being immoral and/or illegal, blah, blah whatever.  We respond in the manner they deserve, we ignore them.

7 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

No, I WOULD believe it.  Google BuzzFeed Sims4 and look at the amount of traffic it gets.  Sims4 on BuzzFeed, Sims4 on LL.

I can believe it.  However, not all are Sims4 users.

The really funny part of all of this is going back to the beginning of this site, it was LoversJoburg, LoversRaperS and LoversCreatures that wolflore was banning that were a major part of this site being formed in the first place.  Oh the irony.

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22 minutes ago, gregathit said:

Nah.  Cancel culture doesn't work here.

How many mods are a maybe and a nod away from obscurity? Rhetorical question. I'm going to start grabbing everything I need. You know them winds is a blowin.

 

Not too long ago I went to bed sure of the outcome of something.... and ended up being very shocked. Oh, and I'm finding a lot of *deleted* mods from my download history on Nexus. Some of those mods had been there since Oblivion days.

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51 minutes ago, gregathit said:

Users within LL.  Most are very recent additions obviously.

Lmao sensitive retards. Oh yeah lets go to a NSFW mod site and complain to the moderators of the NSFW site who are well aware of and allow those NSFW mods that they don't like them. Yeah that's gonna be a fruitful experience.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

Lmao sensitive retards. Oh yeah lets go to a NSFW mod site and complain to the moderators of the NSFW site who are well aware of and allow those NSFW mods that they don't like them. Yeah that's gonna be a fruitful experience.

 

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10 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

I didn't forget your point, I just wanted to point out that the rules kept changing and were expanded upon for a reason.

I'm not sure how people were getting warnings for politics before said rule was announced. If the wayback machine is correct, that rule didn't exist prior to August 2013.

I get it. I agree.  My point was however, the changes in the rules are getting harder and harder to follow. Broader and broader in scope.  It IMO isn't a good path. It is better for everybody to have more clear defined rules and work from there.

 

To be honest I was of the opinion of many here about the rules and such previously. However, after moderating a site with minimum rules and open policies where the members sort themselves out (generally) there hasn't been the same issues.

 

I also moderated another site before this one. It was even more open and free.  If someone or a group got out of hand, we  would tell them to knock it off and if they didn't.. we silenced those people for a few days. Most of the time things sorted themselves out in a dozen or so post. There were almost no rules at all on that site.

 

The tighter the hold on the site the harder it is for the moderators and admin in my experience. Good solid defined rules are extremely useful tools to help keep the site running and the sanity of the moderators and Admin.

 

TL;DR regarding site rules.  Hang on Loosely, But don't let go!  If you cling to tightly you're going to lose control.

 

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