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31 minutes ago, Bricks said:

as I (and NPCs) turn invis when wearing a straightjacket OR the "special" catsuit from the chole quest

This is a much discussed topic and there are hundred different answers that could fit your case. Have you tried all google'd solutions first, and made sure that you are installing mods the right way, with FOMOD if they have it in archive? If you select wrong things in Bodyslide the batch build can go wrong too, but as said there are guides for that.

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6 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

This is a much discussed topic and there are hundred different answers that could fit your case. Have you tried all google'd solutions first, and made sure that you are installing mods the right way, with FOMOD if they have it in archive? If you select wrong things in Bodyslide the batch build can go wrong too, but as said there are guides for that.

Believe me, I looked. basically every single post i found had the same solution. rebuildin bodyslide (or forgot to build in bodyslide). they ALSO generally had "I'm invisible when i wear devices" and not "i'm invis when I wear this specific device". Believe me, i would not have asked had i not already spent time looking for a solution. this post has 850 comments on it, its quite possible that the answer is ijn there somewhere, i did not read all 850, I searched this topic (as well as google and ddi/ddx threads) for posts about the straightjacket, and posts about invis body, and found no solution there

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15 hours ago, Bricks said:

Believe me, I looked. basically every single post i found had the same solution. rebuildin bodyslide (or forgot to build in bodyslide). they ALSO generally had "I'm invisible when i wear devices" and not "i'm invis when I wear this specific device". Believe me, i would not have asked had i not already spent time looking for a solution. this post has 850 comments on it, its quite possible that the answer is ijn there somewhere, i did not read all 850, I searched this topic (as well as google and ddi/ddx threads) for posts about the straightjacket, and posts about invis body, and found no solution there

Dear Bricks,

 

what modmanager are you using?

next please open your game Folder ( i.e. where the Executable are located ). Then look if there a Folder with the name "Meshes"; if so move this folder into your data Folder. 

now you must run Body Outfitstudio (?!?) run.

 

Ps.

 

Sorry for my poor English

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I'm running into a frustrating bug. So I just finished the Chloe quest, and she's all bound up, and I have this issue where if I equip something to her torso it equips while leaving her premium chastity bra on... but if I then try to remove the bra, the game crashes. I discovered this glitch many game hours later, and could only correct it by returning to an older save and removing the bra before equipping anything else on her. Does anyone know what might be happening? I've tried running it through Save Cleaner, reinstalling and uninstalling various mods, but it doesn't seem to quite fix the problem unless I decide to go back to this early save.

EDIT: I should also mention that in the later save, she's wearing a catsuit, a corset, AND the chastity bra, but the corset doesn't appear in her inventory. I don't remember how she even got it, because I didn't equip it to her, but it could have been from the enchanted sword I got from the Dollmaker which puts bondage gear on people you hit. If I run the "safe word" debug feature, it doesn't remove the corset, but it removes everything else and the game crashes in the same way I've mentioned.


EDIT 2: I checked the log after crashing the game in the later save (the one listed below is the earlier one) and the last script is also the same, implying that the periodic update might be the cause. It always crashes a few seconds after removing the bra, not immediately.

 

EDIT 3: I did more experimenting, and it actually seems like it crashes EVERY time I remove the premium chastity bra from her, no matter if she's wearing anything else like I'd first suspected.

 

Here's the end of my papyrus log, if that'll help any, even though I see no problems here.

 

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[08/10/2019 - 02:02:07PM] [CF][Framework] Sending register event
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Beginning JSON registration
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Found 43 JSON files in creatures.d
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-boar.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-chaurus.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-draman.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-draugr.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-dwemer.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-falmer.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-giant.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-goblin.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-misc.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-riekling.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-skeleton.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-spriggan.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-troll.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-wolf.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDIC-ww-animal.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file BDST.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file HentaiCreatures.json; skipping
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[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file HornyWerewolvesHorse2.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file HornyWerewolvesHorse3.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file HornyWerewolvesHorse4.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file HornyWerewolvesHorse5.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file MNC.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file MNCClassic.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file MNCLurkerAlt.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Already loaded file MNCRescale.json; skipping
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Finished JSON registration
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:09PM] [CF][Framework] Forcing active actor restart
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:10PM] [DCUR] Scanning for followers
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:10PM] [DCUR] - Follower found: Chloe
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:11PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:11PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (0B042D62)>]:Defered maintenance...
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:11PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (0B042D62)>]: found Devious Devices - Assets.esm
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:12PM] [CF][Framework] Cleared log Form DB
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:12PM] [CF][Framework] Creature Framework is done initialising
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:12PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (0B042D62)>]: Enabled Desire spell
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:12PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (0B042D62)>]: Updated notification key to 49
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:12PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (0B042D62)>]: finished maintenance
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:12PM] [CF][Main Quest] The cloak is being applied for the first time since game load
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:14PM] [DCUR] Sex attacks are disabled!
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:37PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts
[08/10/2019 - 02:02:40PM] [DCUR] Sex attacks are disabled!
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:22PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:25PM] [DCUR] Sex attacks are disabled!
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:43PM] VM is freezing...
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:43PM] VM is frozen
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:43PM] Saving game...
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:44PM] VM is thawing...
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:50PM] [Zad]: OnContainerChanged()
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:50PM] [Zad]: Sending device event DeviceRemovedChastity Bra(Chloe:0)
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:50PM] [Zad]: RemoveDevice called for Premium Line Chastity Bra
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:50PM] [Zad]: Acquired mutex, removing Premium Line Chastity Bra
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:50PM] [Zad]: Artetra received Chastity Bra.
[08/10/2019 - 02:03:58PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts

 


Another thing to note that I'd like help with: If I equip Chloe (or any other companion) with bondage gear, they shouldn't be able to fight with weapons, but somehow they're able to still draw weapons and fight in a rather glitchy sort of fashion. I have all the prerequisite mods installed for Cursed Loot and Devious Devices, so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Here's my mod list and load order, if that'll help any.

 

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
  9  9     CreatureFramework.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 11  b     SexLabAroused.esm
 12  c     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 13  d     CompanionArissa.esm
 14  e     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 15  f     Heels Sound.esm
 16 10     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 17 11     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 18 12     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 19 13     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 20 14     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 21 15     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
 22 16     SexLabDefeat.esp
 23 17     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 24 18     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 25 19     UIExtensions.esp
 26 1a     SkyUI.esp
 27 1b     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 28 1c     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 29 1d     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 30 1e     HentaiCreatures.esp
 31 1f     barenziahquestmarkers.esp
 32 20     WTF Cyborg Bikini Armor.esp
 33 21     FNIS.esp
 34 22     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 35 23     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 36 24     Luxury Collection.esp
 37 25     KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
 38 26     UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp
 39 27     The Ordinary Women.esp
 40 28     BDIC.esp
 41 29     BDIC SkyTEST Patch.esp
 42 2a     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Patch.esp
 43 2b     SMIM-Merged-All.esp
 44 2c     SLAnimLoader.esp
 45 2d     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
 46 2e     HDTTESTEarring.esp
 47 2f     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 48 30     XPMSE.esp
 49 31     BodySlotsMCM.esp
 50 32     Unique Grasses.esp
 51 33     EpisodeParallax.esp
 52 34     DeviouslyHelpless.esp
 53 35     mslDeviousCaptures.esp
 54 36     SexLabTools.esp
 55 37     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 56 38     GetStripped.esp
 57 39     Luxury Collection Vendor.esp
 58 3a     FNISspells.esp
 59 3b     HornyCreatures.esp
 60 3c     RaceMenu.esp
 61 3d     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 62 3e     DW.esp
 63 3f     SkyrimBound.esp
 64 40     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 65 41     Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
 66 42     Bashed Patch, 0.esp


 

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Starting to think there isn't a single mod on Loverslab that works. This one is starting to look like another one to be removed from my load order. I can't seem to wrap my head around a 5% chance of cursed looting happening 90% of the time. I can't open a chest, bag or loot a corpse without getting slapped in bondage gear and that is getting real fucking annoying. I do like it, in conjunction with SL Adventures, SL Approach, etc...but if I have to move the sliders down to 0% then what's the point? I've already disabled suits and pushed the slider to 101 on high security shit cuz that...that just pisses me off. Bad enough as it is you can't take these things off for HOURS of real-time. Don't bother seeing a blacksmith. They are useless, they can't take them off. But knowing you have them on, they are more than happy to take advantage of that. Oh, and no point in having keys, they just break off in the lock.

 

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23 minutes ago, Malphias said:

Starting to think there isn't a single mod on Loverslab that works. This one is starting to look like another one to be removed from my load order. I can't seem to wrap my head around a 5% chance of cursed looting happening 90% of the time. I can't open a chest, bag or loot a corpse without getting slapped in bondage gear and that is getting real fucking annoying. I do like it, in conjunction with SL Adventures, SL Approach, etc...but if I have to move the sliders down to 0% then what's the point? I've already disabled suits and pushed the slider to 101 on high security shit cuz that...that just pisses me off. Bad enough as it is you can't take these things off for HOURS of real-time. Don't bother seeing a blacksmith. They are useless, they can't take them off. But knowing you have them on, they are more than happy to take advantage of that. Oh, and no point in having keys, they just break off in the lock.

 

I know what you mean, and share your frustration to an extent. I had to lower the chance of loot to its lowest, because of another feature (which I think you can toggle off) which increases the odds of finding loot based on how aroused your character is can boost the odds of finding it pretty significantly if you reach 100 arousal.  I also had to experiment for a while, playing the mod through to get a feel for devices and features I liked and didn't like, using many saves in case something happened I wasn't terribly fond of (and adjusting the options to accommodate my taste). I don't like any of the devices that require a specific key, and the ones that require a blacksmith to remove I'm on the fence about... I sort of like it, since it forces you to wear something for a while that might make the game harder (and sexier), but it can be super inconvenient if it pops at the wrong moment. I had to do a LOT of tweaking with the settings to find a balance I liked (toning down the misogyny so men ask for sex 1 to 5 percent of the time instead of 20 is recommended... or that might be the deviously helpless mod, I often mix it up with this one).

That said, my most recent game  using this mod (barring the CTD issues I've yet to resolve) I'm having the most fun I've had in Skyrim in a while. In one instance, I activated a trapped door in Dawnstar that equipped me with high security bondage gear that left me physically exposed. Since I'm "roleplaying" as a (currently) virgin lesbian, it made going to the blacksmith to get it removed a problem when he tried to force me to have sex with him, which I declined. As punishment, he equipped me with a time released chastity belt just as his shop was closing. I had to sneak around town to find a safe place to hide until morning, because the guards kept giving me warnings for public indecency, so it was this whole stealth element, all while my character was getting more aroused. After I got the blacksmith to free me in the morning, the chastity belt was also interesting, because my character was in constant need of needing to masturbate (and would sometimes stop to try and fruitlessly relieve herself), which helped play into my "roleplay" which hinged on this idea of a relatively normal huntress virgin sorta forced into desperately needing to get herself off just so she can go back to being normal. I was concerned the time release was taking too long, but it was about 2 or 3 game days before it popped off, which I think is fine.

The Chloe quest is a BIG chore, though. (I cheated with console commands to get ingredients to skip that whole sleep potion fetch quest nonsense) I didn't like the distance I had to walk with disabled fast travel, especially considering nothing interesting happened during the trek. Thankfully I had podcasts to listen to.

 

Despite these faults, I love this mod, I just hate that it keeps crashing for me.

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6 minutes ago, koolgool said:

I know what you mean, and share your frustration to an extent. I had to lower the chance of loot to its lowest, because of another feature (which I think you can toggle off) which increases the odds of finding loot based on how aroused your character is can boost the odds of finding it pretty significantly if you reach 100 arousal.  I also had to experiment for a while and just play the mod through to decide which devices I liked and didn't like, using many saves in case something happened I wasn't terribly fond of (and adjusting the options to accommodate my taste). I don't like any of the devices that require a specific key, and the ones that require a blacksmith to remove I'm on the fence about... I sort of like it, since it forces you to wear something for a while that might make the game harder (and sexier), but it can be super inconvenient if it pops at the wrong moment. I had to do a LOT of tweaking with the settings to find a balance I liked (toning down the misogyny so men ask for sex 1 to 5 percent of the time instead of 20 is recommended).

That said, my most recent game  using this mod (barring the CTD issues I've yet to resolve) I'm having the most fun I've had in Skyrim in a while. In one instance, I activated a trapped door in Dawnstar that equipped me with high security bondage gear that left me physically exposed. Since I'm "roleplaying" as a (currently) virgin lesbian, it made going to the blacksmith to get it removed a problem when he tried to force me to have sex with him, which I declined. As punishment, he equipped me with a time released chastity belt just as his shop was closing. I had to sneak around town to find a safe place to hide until morning, because the guards kept giving me warnings for public indecency, so it was this whole stealth element, all while my character was getting more aroused. After I got the blacksmith to free me in the morning, the chastity belt was also interesting, because my character was in constant need of needing to masturbate (and would sometimes stop to try and fruitlessly relieve herself), which helped play into my "roleplay" which hinged on this idea of a relatively normal huntress virgin sorta forced into desperately needing to get herself off just so she can go back to being normal.

The Chloe quest is a BIG chore, though. (I cheated with console commands to get ingredients to skip that whole sleep potion fetch quest nonsense) I didn't like the distance I had to walk with disabled fast travel, especially considering nothing interesting happened during the trek. Thankfully I had podcasts to listen to.

 

Despite these faults, I love this mod, I just hate that it keeps crashing for me.

Well, that brings up my next point. I got a time release chastity belt slapped on by a guard and I just looked at taking it off...but there was a 'masturbate' option. So I tried that. Big mistake. My character was hit with a loading screen and when the game returned I was no longer in Riften, my graphics system was all messed up with invisible meshes, I was floated  high into the air and after the maturbation fell to my death resulting in loading my save...and doing it again...and again. So...another feature bites the dust. Don't fucking touch the masturbate button.

 

By the way, what are your settings? You aren't getting hit with shackles with every chest you open? Can the arousal modifier be turned off? I'll have a look it a moment when I get back in game.  At 5% I should good 95 out of a 100 chests.

 

It has been upsetting. I have spent all day at level 1 as I keep tweaking settings and starting again with a save. Or, starting again with a save then tweak. Having a hard time adjusting Adventure, Approach, Horrible Harassment and this one. Before I got this one I was never touched by anyone but guards. Now I can't go into a city...I'll be gangbanged by everyone and setting up an animation takes forever so to do that  over and over and over and over and over again...gets old too. May have it smoothed out some, need more time before I'd know for sure.

 

 

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Does anyone know what options and devices and what not you need to turn off to disable ALL high security devices? I don't fucking like anything locked on me that there is no way out of it. I have no problem traveling around to find a smith, a thief, or what have you. But to not be able to do a damn thing...bullshit. I have turned them all off that I can find, but I'm still wearing a chastity belt of that type and I don't know how it got there considering I turned all that shit off.

 

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4 hours ago, Malphias said:

Does anyone know what options and devices and what not you need to turn off to disable ALL high security devices?

So i'll go through MCM a bit... First General tab:

There's the base getting trapped chance, good about 5%. Trap cooldown set to your liking, 2h or even more maybe. Trap modifiers whatever, 0.5 to 1.0, ornate i have 2.5. Arousal weight and modifier should both be relatively low, even 0 is fine. I recommend around 0.3 or 0.2. Then checkboxes on the right; arousal threshold for full set 101 (disabled), "Locked doors only" checked. Chance to lose keys, depends on you. I get out of devices fast because they drop so much so this is 65%. + i have Devious Follower which i can ask to remove things from me if it's too distracting.

 

Then Events tab, this is now about hard to remove or high security. Basically every single option here is hard to remove that if you don't like, set to 0.0. Few exceptions are:

Standard items, these are easiest devices you can get. Flash bang and gas trap are not restraints but rape or drugs. Self bondage gas trap will use whatever standard items you may have in inventory.

 

Devices tab; just finetuning for standard traps. You may want to turn yokes much lower than armbinders, cause yokes are way harder to rid of.

 

Event parameters; about those hard to remove and quest items, how hard do you want them to be? Set here.

 

Escape options; how often do you want keys to drop when looting? I use 18% chance with 50% each for restraint-, chastity- and piercing removal key. Rare key chance 10 and all its options 10 too. Sharp objects chance is how easy it is to get out of armbinder, i have that 8% for at least some challenge. Chance modifier for plants and mines 0.7.

 

Bondage Adventure; little surprisingly this tab concerns about all npc dialog about them wanting to help you or not. The "I have been locked in restraints, can you please help me out?" dialog. I'm not telling you to use same values i have, but what i do have is: "Do nothing" 8%, "Give a key" 25%, "Unlock 1 restraint" 18%, "Unlock everything" 2%, "Bondage adventure quest" 0%, "Lock 1 restraint" 10%, "Steal your stuff" 2.5%, "Rape" 25%.

 

Finally check Debug tab where your actual chance for getting cursed loot is, which takes into account the arousal bonus.

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And then you want to check very carefully the Devious Devices MCM menus. Especially the 3 difficulty values which determine how often keys break, how easy struggling out is, if keys actually break at all when used, or if they can ever jam.

Also the DD Events and Effects tab there are a couple settings i set to 0.0 because of needless animation spam that very much slow down your progress:

"Belted empty", "Bra chafing", "Wet padding", "Belt chafing", "horny chance". You will still experience lots of events with chastity belts so do not worry, just not rediculously much loss of control anymore.

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10 hours ago, Vampir2005 said:

Dear Bricks,

 

what modmanager are you using?

next please open your game Folder ( i.e. where the Executable are located ). Then look if there a Folder with the name "Meshes"; if so move this folder into your data Folder. 

now you must run Body Outfitstudio (?!?) run.

 

Ps.

 

Sorry for my poor English

Your english is fine, a fair bit better than most native speakers i reccon.

anyway, you hit the nail exactly on the head, that fixed it. I'm using mod organizer 2 (my frist time using MO), i didnt even think to closely examine the install directory since i had thought the point of MO was that it didnt touch it, so all i did was give it a quick look. not examine the files

thanks! You've solved it

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6 hours ago, Bricks said:

i had thought the point of MO was that it didnt touch it

And you're right it doesn't put anything in there (game still may read though), but your old mod installs or NMM may linger there still. In Skyrim data folder i don't have meshes, textures or tools folders at all. If you use MO you should install mods to it in place that is far from the Steam installation folder.

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11 hours ago, Zaflis said:

So i'll go through MCM a bit... First General tab:

There's the base getting trapped chance, good about 5%. Trap cooldown set to your liking, 2h or even more maybe. Trap modifiers whatever, 0.5 to 1.0, ornate i have 2.5. Arousal weight and modifier should both be relatively low, even 0 is fine. I recommend around 0.3 or 0.2. Then checkboxes on the right; arousal threshold for full set 101 (disabled), "Locked doors only" checked. Chance to lose keys, depends on you. I get out of devices fast because they drop so much so this is 65%. + i have Devious Follower which i can ask to remove things from me if it's too distracting.

 

Then Events tab, this is now about hard to remove or high security. Basically every single option here is hard to remove that if you don't like, set to 0.0. Few exceptions are:

Standard items, these are easiest devices you can get. Flash bang and gas trap are not restraints but rape or drugs. Self bondage gas trap will use whatever standard items you may have in inventory.

 

Devices tab; just finetuning for standard traps. You may want to turn yokes much lower than armbinders, cause yokes are way harder to rid of.

 

Event parameters; about those hard to remove and quest items, how hard do you want them to be? Set here.

 

Escape options; how often do you want keys to drop when looting? I use 18% chance with 50% each for restraint-, chastity- and piercing removal key. Rare key chance 10 and all its options 10 too. Sharp objects chance is how easy it is to get out of armbinder, i have that 8% for at least some challenge. Chance modifier for plants and mines 0.7.

 

Bondage Adventure; little surprisingly this tab concerns about all npc dialog about them wanting to help you or not. The "I have been locked in restraints, can you please help me out?" dialog. I'm not telling you to use same values i have, but what i do have is: "Do nothing" 8%, "Give a key" 25%, "Unlock 1 restraint" 18%, "Unlock everything" 2%, "Bondage adventure quest" 0%, "Lock 1 restraint" 10%, "Steal your stuff" 2.5%, "Rape" 25%.

 

Finally check Debug tab where your actual chance for getting cursed loot is, which takes into account the arousal bonus.

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And then you want to check very carefully the Devious Devices MCM menus. Especially the 3 difficulty values which determine how often keys break, how easy struggling out is, if keys actually break at all when used, or if they can ever jam.

Also the DD Events and Effects tab there are a couple settings i set to 0.0 because of needless animation spam that very much slow down your progress:

"Belted empty", "Bra chafing", "Wet padding", "Belt chafing", "horny chance". You will still experience lots of events with chastity belts so do not worry, just not rediculously much loss of control anymore.

Thanks for the tips, very helpful.

 

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13 hours ago, Zaflis said:

And you're right it doesn't put anything in there (game still may read though), but your old mod installs or NMM may linger there still. In Skyrim data folder i don't have meshes, textures or tools folders at all. If you use MO you should install mods to it in place that is far from the Steam installation folder.

it was a clean install and the tools/mods are all in my mod folder which is ona  completely different drive. no idea how it happened.

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Can anyone or maybe @Kimy herself answer me when the next Update will come? A week, a month or more than a month is ok though. I would want to install everything again because I deleted everything and dont wanna restart the whole stuff if 2 days later the next update comes. Thanks!

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On 7/14/2019 at 3:16 PM, harwester said:

Same here. For now i disabled iEquip and choose DCL :)

For anyone who wants a temporary patch, install the attached zip file.

 

The reason why iEquip is conflicting with Deviously Cursed Loot is because iEquip adds ref handles to the players inventory upon initializing. This allows iEquip to track items even when they are enchanted or enhanced. A bug with adding ref handles causes objects with attached scripts to no longer trigger their events (and technically the conflicts are between iEquip and Devious Devices Integration). The people at iEquip are currently looking to fix this issue.

 

What I've done to 'patch' this is to simple remove the code responsible for adding ref handles. iEquip still works fine! The only thing you will be missing is that iEquip can no longer track individual items. This means that when an item is enchanted, enhanced or if you have multiple copies of an item, iEquip won't be able to tell. The solution is to either not carry any duplicate weapons or to remove them from the queue and add it again.

 

Make sure the patch overwrites iEquip!

 

This patch requires iEquip to be uninitialized. Either reload the save where you first added iEquip or reinstall iEquip.

Reinstallation is a bit tricky, but here is how I did it:

  1. Disable iEquip from the MCM
  2. Save
  3. Remove iEquip from the game
  4. Reload save
  5. Save again
  6. Use savegame script cleaner and do FixScriptInstances and save it
  7. Reinstall iEquip

After these steps you should be able to reload the edited save and initialize iEquip like normal. The MCM may show a blank page under iEquip, in that case you need to give it a moment.

iEquip - DD Patch.zip

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Im having problems with the Dominant Followers. It's all my fault, it does say you cant really play after doing the quest.

But I've lost almost all of my Septims to Leah, she took just under 5000 from me. Are they gone? 

Getting away from her: the MCM chance of pickpocketing and detection do not work how I thought, is this on purpose? It seems to be reversed unless I am misreading it, as in at 100% you seem to have no chance of success, at 0% it worked first time.

Anyway I have successfully stolen the key - and now its crashed but hopefully it will work on reload - but my money's gone, right?

 

Edit: on escaping from my collar, I got all my septims back. Thank you Kimy/Skyrim Gods!

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After I got away from her I was still in a 'strict' armbinder. 4 Hours later I still am. I cant get rid of it - blacksmiths are supposed to do it but can't. I have used the console and it disappears but my PC is still holding her arms behind her like shes still wearing it. Any ideas?

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 devious device's mcm debug option remove all quest devices option is useful for removing  items that DCL safeword option won't/doesn't remove.

 

also did you try equiping another armbinder then simply remove to reset animation? sometimes simply jumping can reset idle/runnign idle animations too.

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1 hour ago, unholyplague said:

 devious device's mcm debug option remove all quest devices option is useful for removing  items that DCL safeword option won't/doesn't remove.

 

also did you try equiping another armbinder then simply remove to reset animation? sometimes simply jumping can reset idle/runnign idle animations too.

Thank you, I didn't think it could be classed as a quest item, I will try that! (I used the safeword option which left me naked except for the armbinder, cue my PC being unable to go far without being raped!)

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Seriously though - how are you supposed to remove armbinders? Is it only some blacksmiths?  Am I overlooking something in MCM? Do I just keep doing the struggle thing? (I have done it a lot.) Are changes to MCM options not taking effect because I'm in armbinder?

 

Edit: DCL's safeword and DD's remove quest items did nothing. I got the armbinder off through the console, but my PC still wore the armbinder pose though I could put on armor meaning I could actually play. I wondered if buying then removing another one would sort it so I went to Captured Dreams - the Master 'forced' me into a trail - which ended with me in various items for another week, no proper armor: but my arms were out of the armbinder pose! So I will do a load of quests for Her while I wait for my week to be up.

PS in case anyone is in a similar position, I found it a good idea to lock or block arousal in Sexlab Arousal.

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12 minutes ago, Dodzh said:

is a way to make loot really rare? at the moment im getting ton of items on each container even with min and max items on containers set to 1

Do you mean items that trap you or those that are just actual item loots? All the chances for traps are set in MCM on General tab, see tooltips for each explanation. In the miscellaneous tab is chance for non-trapping restraints.

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I've discovered a minor glitch with the bound queen quest.

 

Once a character has spoken to the guy in the college (Or if at anytime you use the safeword option in the MCM) the game stops automatically activating quest markers for quests.  You have to manually turn on quest markers everytime you get a new quest, even after bound queen is finished.

 

For the most part it is minor, but can be annoying for chain quests like the thieves guild, mages college, dark brotherhood, etc.  Anything where one quest ends and starts another.

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Hello!

Love the mod. I noticed in the description that you are open to suggestions and ideas about your mod, so I was wondering if you could think about mine.

 

Whenever I close a container, there is always a second where my heart stops and I wonder if a trap is going to trigger. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Then I move on. But what if you could increase the delay between closing the menu and triggering the trap? So 10 seconds later I think I got away and then boom, trap. It would increase the amount of time I am terrified for and add to the suprise when I am trapped.

 

I'm not sure how it would work if I opened multiple containers in a short time, and I don't want to be trapped by something I opened 10 minutes ago, that would be annoying.

Cheers for listening

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2 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Do you mean items that trap you or those that are just actual item loots? All the chances for traps are set in MCM on General tab, see tooltips for each explanation. In the miscellaneous tab is chance for non-trapping restraints.

thank you i was missing the part under miscellaneous, 

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