Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Rynnes Master]

I don't know that DCL has anything at all to do with crafting tables.  If I was experiencing your problem I'd look elsewhere for the culprit and a solution.  I suppose I'd use a papyrus log (which I rarely look at, since I don't read greek, LOL) and I'd use TES5Edit, LOOT, and WryeBash to try to see what was going on that I hadn't expected. 

 

[Corsayr]

I think I need help.

 

*deep breath*

 

Reinstalled Skyrim at the weekend.

Installed everything I need to get Sexlab and Devious Devices working.

Tested out as much of it as possible and it all seemed to be working okay.

Started a new game.

 

I played through the first hour or so while deliberately avoiding anything that might be DD-related.

I used the forge/grindstone/workbench in Whiterun to upgrade my armor and sword so I know it was working at first.

Got to the point where I want to start grinding things like Enchanting and Smithing and I've discovered that whenever I go to use a forge, arcane enchanter or alchemy table my character immediately quits back out of it again.

 

I noticed that whenever I load a savegame I immediately get the "Shlunk" sound, as if my character is equipping something.

There are no DD items in my inventory or (obviously) equipped.

 

After a few minutes of attempting to use an arcane enchanter I started to get "wearingconflictingdevice" error message.

Googled that and found it was related to DCL.

Disabled DCL in NMM (just to see if that'd fix my problem with crafting & enchanting).

That worked, which suggests that something DCL-related was telling the game that my character couldn't use a forge/workbench/grindstone etc.

Also, with DCL disabled, I'm no longer getting the "shlunk" sound when I load a savegame, which suggests that DCL was equipping my character with something, even though nothing appeared in my inventory.

 

I barely had chance to congratulate myself for figuring out the problem when I got another message telling me about some girl falling off a wagon somewhere.

Awhatnow?

Exited breezehome and immediately got ANOTHER message telling me something or other about a dollmaker who was going to do bad things because I hadn't got to his home in time.

Awhatnow? x2

 

So, my questions are as follows:-

- Assuming I'm right in thinking this "dollmaker" (and the "wearingconflictingdevice" error message) are related to DCL, why the hell am I still getting these in-game messages when DCL is disabled?

- Why can't my character use crafting tables all of a sudden when DCL is enabled?

- Why is DCL stopping my character from using crafting tables even though there are no DD items in my inventory?

- If I try to apply the suggested fix for the "wearingconflictingdevice" messages, is it likely to fix these other issues too?

 

Mostly, though, I'm pretty freaked out that I'm still getting these DCL-related messages even though the mod' is disabled.

 

 

Have you tried using something like Save Game Script Cleaner by Hadoram Nexus mod 52363?

 

My understanding (though I am often wrong ) is once a script is running it only stops if it receives a scripted command to do so, or is self scripted to end. So sometimes just turning off a mod doesn't end all of its scripts. 

 

As to the original issue, I have never had DCUR keep me from using a crafting table, and I have been in some sorry states let me tell you.  

 

That is not to say it isn't DCUR just that it isn't a common thing for DCUR to do. Once you get your script thing sorted out, a reinstall might just fix the issues.

[Slorm]

 

 

 

I seem to have an issue. When I harvest plants, on occassion, it says "The ground is moving under your feet" But then absolutely nothing happens. Is this supposed to happen like this?

 

It's caused by the Estrus animation not firing, it happens from time to time. Treat it as a lucky break

 

 

 

It happens consistently unfortunately

 

Do you have both Estrus For Skyrim and Estrus Chaurus installed?  Have you disabled the .esp for Estrus Chaurus?  I personally replace Estrus Chaurus with Sexlab Estrus Chaurus repacked and disable its esp.  I too get the "occasional" failure to fire, and there often is a delay between the message of the ground moving and the firing of the animations, but it works.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

Yes this is excellent advice as the Estrus for Skyrim mod is very buggy and spams the hell out of your logs. Personally I use a version I created which only has the assets (esp and scripts completely removed) to avoid forgetting to deactivate it.

 

I have the slime and ooze animations deactivated as well as they seem to break RND if the pc is impregnated, tentacles and dwemer machines are fine though. I always assumed the misfire was DCL using one of the animations I'd deactivated but perhaps there's more to it, it's an old routine.

 

The time it works though is usually the time when you really don't want it to (though if you're really unlucky you get the parasite instead which is much worse)

 

[Mart0206]

Hi Kimy.

A question abount the "Bound Girl" feature. Somehow, the npc´s don´t get their items removed. I can free them, they reward me, sometimes bad things happened to my character, everything just works as intended, but the Bounded Girls didn´t get unequiped from their DD Stuff. Unfortunally, their is no option in the mod menu to let run some kind of clearing script. Do you have an idea how to fix that?

 

greetings

[pnutz78]

Hi Kimy,

 

I love your mod but over the versions was never able to turn in the shoping quest for Leon or Leah. Have completed all the tasks and the mission board says return the items. Under "Master" there is no option to turn it in. I have also tried the "I have a gift option" and cannot find anything in my inventory that resembles the items- please help?

 

 

[Corsayr]

Two questions:

 

Question one: is there a setting to turn off Followers giving you Keys when you are visibly bound. I turned off the setting that allows followers to act on bound dialog but that didn't stop her from handing me a million keys all the time even when I know she doesn't have any keys.  

 

Question two: is there anyway to change the order in which the striptease collar removes items? It appears to remove necklace and rings first. 

[LazyBoot]

Im sure i already posted something like this here but my Devices and my Body turn invisible. Only some tho. Gags,Blindfolds and Ankle Devices work. The rest doesnt. I like this Mod. My Favourite Mod. With this sadly Unplayable. I only deinstalled it once and now it doesnt work anymore ....

Most likely you didn't build the devious devices in bodyslide.

[redmond]

is there a setting to turn off Followers giving you Keys when you are visibly bound. I turned off the setting that allows followers to act on bound dialog but that didn't stop her from handing me a million keys all the time even when I know she doesn't have any keys.

 

 

 

I can't remember which one but I am pretty sure that's another mod doing that. Think there might actually be several that do that. I want to say http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2959-sexistderogatory-guards-npcs-and-player-comments/ might be your culprit if you are using it.

[Elloxyy]

i had this bug for a long time where my character would no longer be able to resist her desires and start her solo animation sequence from being too horny, but it would also trigger a teleport to bleakwind basin, and either fall out of the sky or float up into the sky. i hoped that updating to the newest version would fix this, and also cut down on a lot of the mods i was using, but it seems the bug is still there, even with only a few mods active ( http://imgur.com/a/Dpnjs ) , , i tried to find out which mods are causing problems but cant seem to find whats wrong with the game  

[Rynnes Master]

i had this bug for a long time where my character would no longer be able to resist her desires and start her solo animation sequence from being too horny, but it would also trigger a teleport to bleakwind basin, and either fall out of the sky or float up into the sky. i hoped that updating to the newest version would fix this, and also cut down on a lot of the mods i was using, but it seems the bug is still there, even with only a few mods active ( http://imgur.com/a/Dpnjs ) , , i tried to find out which mods are causing problems but cant seem to find whats wrong with the game

 

In my experience (that happens to me too, from time to time, the transportation to the middle of the map) the cause can be from a myriad of reasons. 

 

I suggest that first, when you're transported, press the "F" key and then the "<" key and see if you find yourself back where you should have been in the first place.  That very often fixes the issue for me. 

 

Secondly, take a look at your Skyrim.ini file, in the [Papyrus] section, and check the entry fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=.  The default is 500, which relates to 500 milliseconds.  STEP recommends 2000.  According to STEP, which is consistent with my experience, the entry fixes the time allotted to scripts to complete.  It would seem obvious that more complex scripts (like we have in our DCL and DD based games) would require more time to complete.  My experience suggests that the most appropriate setting is system and load-order dependent, and that any given value may be satisfactory for one system but not optimum for another. 

 

After more trial and error than I care to admit to I've concluded that for my system and load order the most effective value is 3500.  I do NOT suggest that number for others, although I do suggest that you try values other than 500.  If your value is 500, try 2000 and see if it works.  If not, think about alternatives and try others. 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Edit:   I personally don't think that the transportation issue is a "bug" and I don't think that DCL is either the cause or the answer.  The solution lies in proper load order, correct animation settings, and game configuration settings.  Just my opinion.

[Slorm]

 

In my experience (that happens to me too, from time to time, the transportation to the middle of the map) the cause can be from a myriad of reasons. 

 

 

 

It's anecdotal I know, but I never once had this happen with SL1.59c. I have seen it once or twice in this current game which uses SL1.62 and I gather from reading around it's caused by (possibly) by the camera losing its co-ordinates, though what actually causes it to happen is still an imponderable. It may be SL or more probably a combination of mods

 

You can get a similar effect using Touring Carriages. The journey is one long animation and if the pc gets hurt in any way then when the journey ends the pc is transported into the sky at the centre of the arrival cell. I've played around with this a fair bit with Deviously Helpless and DCL (if a sex scene fires while travelling), what happens is that as both animations run the camera tries to be in two places at the same time (both on the moving cart and at the sex scene on the ground). The camera goes into free form mode and TCL and eventually everything will turn blue and you ctd. This is an extreme form but I suspect related to the same root cause.

 

[Corsayr]

 

is there a setting to turn off Followers giving you Keys when you are visibly bound. I turned off the setting that allows followers to act on bound dialog but that didn't stop her from handing me a million keys all the time even when I know she doesn't have any keys.

 

 

 

I can't remember which one but I am pretty sure that's another mod doing that. Think there might actually be several that do that. I want to say http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2959-sexistderogatory-guards-npcs-and-player-comments/ might be your culprit if you are using it.

 

 

I do have sexist comments, and per your suggestion I turned off the follower stuff in that mod. Sadly it didn't stop the keys.  

Any other thoughts as to what mod it might be? 

 

 

This is what I am seeing

 

 

[dnoah]

 

This is what I am seeing

 

key troubles.jpg

 

That doesn't sound like Cursed Loot. At all. No idea what mod it might be.

 

[Ursur1major]

 

 

I do have sexist comments, and per your suggestion I turned off the follower stuff in that mod. Sadly it didn't stop the keys.

Any other thoughts as to what mod it might be? 

 

This is what I am seeing

 

 

That comes from Sexist Comments, possible that the keygiving event is not tied to any of the comment toggles.

I suggest going to them and asking if they can fix it

[Zhash61]

 

 

 

I do have sexist comments, and per your suggestion I turned off the follower stuff in that mod. Sadly it didn't stop the keys.

Any other thoughts as to what mod it might be? 

 

This is what I am seeing

 

 

That comes from Sexist Comments, possible that the keygiving event is not tied to any of the comment toggles.

I suggest going to them and asking if they can fix it

 

 

It is the follower helpful comments toggle.

[jaberwocky]

Not sure is you are still working on this mod, but anyway, inspired by milk mod economy I thought of a nice devious event (that indeed might conflict with milk mod economy):

 

A gas trap might contain hormones that stimulates lactation. Thus over a period of one to three days, the dragonborn will produce a random amount of milk. Having (too much) milk stored will have a couple of disadvantages. Depending on the amount of milk, the dragonborn can carry less and might have a debuff in a few skills. To undo the effects, the dragonborn has to ask people if they would like to suck on her breasts. And depending on the amount, multiple sessions might be required.

 

Anyway, I am still enjoying your mod a lot.

[JohnBear123]

Not sure if this is a cursed loot issue or devious devices but was hoping that someone might be able to tell me what I'm doing wrong.

 

My body type is unpb so when I build the devices in bodyslide I choose the uunp-unpb variant. My problem is that the npc characters wearing devious devices (like the bound girls) have too small breasts, like maybe unp type breasts. On my character its fine and the other uunp armours the breast sizes are correct. Does anyone know why the npc's wearing devices have too small breasts?

[uFxbazvPp9WqeAd]

I know that Death Alternative is not considered compatible with DCL, and am thus not looking for this problem to actually be fixed, but a note to anybody that does try to run the two together: make sure you disable "Horny Buffs" in DCL. If you don't then on low HP you'll periodically go into bleedout even without being damaged. Presumably something to do with how horny buffs increase your max health or something. This can happen repeatedly too since exiting bleedout sets your health very low. Waiting an hour ingame whenever you're low on health or just recovered from bleedout also fixes the issue since it refills your health, which is an alternative if you don't want to disable horny buffs.

[Corsayr]

I know that Death Alternative is not considered compatible with DCL, and am thus not looking for this problem to actually be fixed, but a note to anybody that does try to run the two together: make sure you disable "Horny Buffs" in DCL. If you don't then on low HP you'll periodically go into bleedout even without being damaged. Presumably something to do with how horny buffs increase your max health or something. This can happen repeatedly too since exiting bleedout sets your health very low. Waiting an hour ingame whenever you're low on health or just recovered from bleedout also fixes the issue since it refills your health, which is an alternative if you don't want to disable horny buffs.

 

That also happens if you have armor that has HP in it as an enchantment. This is another reason why Vanilla death must go.

[Zenagia]

Hi Kimy,

 

I've been playing this mod for a while, and I love it. But after playing I would like to offer a pair of suggestions.

 

- The armbinder looks a little loose, if you know what I mean. It looks like all the wrist bindings share the same animation. But would it be possible for a tighter armbinder? One where the elbows are touching (like an ozbondage.com one).

 

- The second ties into the first. During the cursed collar quest, I took a moment to admire the high security gear that my girl was wearing. One thing that would be really cool, would be a "high security armbinder' that looked high security. Perhaps a pair of steel bands across the wrists and elbows with visible locks to match the rest of the set?

 

Keep up the great work and thank you for this awesome mod!

[dnoah]

Hi Kimy,

 

I've been playing this mod for a while, and I love it. But after playing I would like to offer a pair of suggestions.

 

- The armbinder looks a little loose, if you know what I mean. It looks like all the wrist bindings share the same animation. But would it be possible for a tighter armbinder? One where the elbows are touching (like an ozbondage.com one).

 

- The second ties into the first. During the cursed collar quest, I took a moment to admire the high security gear that my girl was wearing. One thing that would be really cool, would be a "high security armbinder' that looked high security. Perhaps a pair of steel bands across the wrists and elbows with visible locks to match the rest of the set?

 

Keep up the great work and thank you for this awesome mod!

There's a "proper" leather armbinder already in the works for DD Expansion. You can grab and try it out from https://github.com/DeviousDevices/DDx/tree/development - if you know what you're doing, or wait for DDx update. Generally speaking, if you want something added, you'll need to ensl... erm, find a 3d modeler sharing your views or willing to fulfill requests. (Or learn to do it yourself.) Some of them are already working on DDx and they're doing great quality stuff, by Skyrim standards. AFAIK, no metal -ish armbinder in the works yet, unfortunately.

[pavelius_pavlentius]

Not sure if this is a cursed loot issue or devious devices but was hoping that someone might be able to tell me what I'm doing wrong.

 

My body type is unpb so when I build the devices in bodyslide I choose the uunp-unpb variant. My problem is that the npc characters wearing devious devices (like the bound girls) have too small breasts, like maybe unp type breasts. On my character its fine and the other uunp armours the breast sizes are correct. Does anyone know why the npc's wearing devices have too small breasts?

Try disabling breast node management in Devious Devices MCM.

[Darmo]

Hi,

 

Does anyone know how I can remove the exhibitionist suit? I've been stuck inside it for quite a long time and I always fail to brute force it. It seems that no key will unlock it either.

[LazyBoot]

Hi,

 

Does anyone know how I can remove the exhibitionist suit? I've been stuck inside it for quite a long time and I always fail to brute force it. It seems that no key will unlock it either.

Have you tried the Body Restraint keys?

[Darmo]

 

Hi,

 

Does anyone know how I can remove the exhibitionist suit? I've been stuck inside it for quite a long time and I always fail to brute force it. It seems that no key will unlock it either.

Have you tried the Body Restraint keys?

 

Well, I have only 2 options "Use brute force" and "Carry on" even if I have keys. Each time I try any brute force option it fails.

 

Edit: Nevermind, that was it, I just never found any previously...