Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Xiaron]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I've had reports that I broke progression last update. These are the conditions for the dialogue. If you could check the variables using the console 'help' and report back I'd appreciate it. Snowed under here. 

I was wondering the same thing, I got the barmaid outfit and it's not progressed since then. Maybe I'm impatient or it's bad luck but the other jobs are moving along fine.

 

pchsRequiredOutfitLevel 0.00

pchsUngiftedOutfitsThisLevelCount 0.00

pchsOutfitChangeCooldown 5.81

GameDaysPassed 13.31

 

Hopefully those are the variables you were asking about?

 

(I actually had to create a BAT file to get those, I could not for the life of me type them into the console correctly. >.< )

Edited November 19, 2021 by Xiaron

[Xiaron]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

The party is kind of an odd one. Needs more work. In a recent update I changed the number of jobs (was a hard 20. Now configurable) and added a formula to calculate the 'passing' grades. I also increased the points requirement but the formula is 'flat'. Which resulted in sometimes I wasn't ever able to get a passing score. Just because sometimes I was never asked to dance or sex (2/3 points). So I reduced the points requirement again. 

 

What needs to change really is that the passing grade is accumulated as you're asked to do tasks. So:

Asked to get drink - add one point for max grade. 

Asked to dance - add two points to max grade. 

Asked for sex - add three points etc.

And then at the end determine the passing grade. Instead it's done at the start. 

Ah, so at least it's known oddness. Is there a number of jobs that can result in a fail? Right now if I finish it's with the best grade no matter how horribly it actually went.

[zinujeka]

Hello again,
I am using Spank That Ass  mod.
The mother constantly gets out of cage in order to slap PC on ass or tits and call him whore.
Can this be fixed or is it in line with the plot?

Edited November 19, 2021 by zinujeka

[kapibar]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

You should get as many containers as you need. May take into account how many are in your inventory and your end table. So that you're not hoarding. Alchemy merchants should have some.

Wow. That sounds cumplicated ? (sorry, couldn't help myself).

 

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Afraid this is something you'll have to balance out yourself mostly based on your own playstyle, game setup & RP. I've had other people tell me that addiction decays too quickly for them to get addicted.

I've been using SLS for a very long time and I suppose these other people are on to something. The first time I got addicted was while playing WT. Like I said - this mod creates a very hermetic environment with little to no downtime. There is no room for the addiction level to decay and the exposition is constant. This is the only mod (in my experience) that does this, that's why cum addiction doesn't play well with it.

Also, after thinking further I believe you should reconsider the cum hunger debuffs. They are brutal as fuck, among the most punitive I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of different mods. They are actually the most repressive debuffs in the entire SLS/WT set. Take a look at this issue from this perspective:
You are born a woman in a sexist world? OK, you are weaker, learn slower, your spells do less damage (all configurable). You are beaten to a bloody pulp by your own father. Literally stomped to the ground. OK, your stats take a blow, but you can still function. Your mother dies - that's sad - and you feel broken. But god forbid you don't drink a fuckton of sperm! Fuck you, no magic, no stamina, roam through a land like a zombie. It's rather ridiculous when you think about it.

And I get it, it's an addiction. It's supposed to break you. But it's a psychological addiction, and it's debuffs are fucking you up more than withdrawal from actual drugs.

_____

Another thing that came up yesterday - I'm actually quite levelled up, but repressing level increase. I figured more stamina might be useful (SLSO), so I unsealed my level. And surprise surprise, it's the courier, giving you - a nameless cum sponge - a letter from the Jarl, inviting you to buy a property. I know this is the game that presumes levelled adventurers are known in the world, but it murders immersion nonetheless. Would it be possible to stop couriers and Durak from appearing before you get kicked out of the house permanently? (I know, I know, you're busy and this is a minor detail, but one can hope...)

[audhol]

8 hours ago, kapibar said:

Few thougths on the cumslut quest.

The addiction goes way to quickly IMO. In a single (!) day my PC was completely addicted. From a girl that spits out cum to sperm sucking slut in a day? Quite ridiculous, really. As are cum addiction debuffs, that from what I've seen are not configurable, so it's very easy to end up with no stamina and no magicka regen. I'm all for playing a weak character, but the stamina debuff just kills any chance of actually playing the game. WT creates an environment in which SLS wreaks havoc with the stats. I also have iNeed, which practically forces to swallow cum every hour or so in order to keep hunger/thirst in check. Maybe this is because I'm not used to playing this quest and there is more immersive (less crippling) way to manage this quest, but at this moment it  doesn't feel balanced. My character is completely addicted and hungry/thirsty all the time, with little to no way to actually satisfy those needs.

 

Settings I use

INeed Hunger 3 Thirst 3

SLS Cum Addiction 0.2 untill stage 3 "Cum Addicted" then 0.1

SLS "Cum Food Value" Cum Provides 7 times food and 7 times water

FHU Min Time 2 hours max inflation 10

 

These settings provide a much slower progression as well as borowing any food and drink that happens to be left laying around and taking a sneaky drink at the stream and getting cleaned up anytime I pass by.

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, audhol said:

Settings I use

INeed Hunger 3 Thirst 3

SLS Cum Addiction 0.2 untill stage 3 "Cum Addicted" then 0.1

SLS "Cum Food Value" Cum Provides 7 times food and 7 times water

FHU Min Time 2 hours max inflation 10

 

These settings provide a much slower progression as well as borowing any food and drink that happens to be left laying around and taking a sneaky drink at the stream and getting cleaned up anytime I pass by.

Thanks for the tip. It's already a little bit too late for my character, though. She's already in deep.

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, kapibar said:

And I get it, it's an addiction. It's supposed to break you. But it's a psychological addiction, and it's debuffs are fucking you up more than withdrawal from actual drugs.

So change it. It's one of the easiest modifications you can make to a mod. 

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2 hours ago, kapibar said:

Another thing that came up yesterday - I'm actually quite levelled up, but repressing level increase. I figured more stamina might be useful (SLSO), so I unsealed my level. And surprise surprise, it's the courier, giving you - a nameless cum sponge - a letter from the Jarl, inviting you to buy a property. I know this is the game that presumes levelled adventurers are known in the world, but it murders immersion nonetheless. Would it be possible to stop couriers and Durak from appearing before you get kicked out of the house permanently? (I know, I know, you're busy and this is a minor detail, but one can hope...)

Mmm. I dunno about that. Modifying anything vanilla is always risky. Might suit you but might break things for others. I'd rather leave it alone. 

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

So change it. It's one of the easiest modifications you can make to a mod. 

FormId: xx0984FF

Honestly, this would feel like cheating my way out of shit. Not gonna lie, I modified some mods for my own convenience, but this is one of the cores of my gameplay. If you see it as the best way to go about things - who the fuck am I to disagree?

And while we're at it - a suggestion - when father orders PC to be naked maybe he could take away all her clothes. After all he states that "soon everyone will see".

[Silvain]

13 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I've had reports that I broke progression last update. These are the conditions for the dialogue.

 

 

Dunno if it is "broken broken" but it is very slow. I played for a few hours and I just got my first outfit progression (have 4 levels). So it works but feels very slow.

[bubba999]

So, I got mother back, she's in the cage but not amputated. I have Amputator Beta .07. Not the right one? Can someone point me to the right one?

[kapibar]

4 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

So, I got mother back, she's in the cage but not amputated. I have Amputator Beta .07. Not the right one? Can someone point me to the right one?

 

[bubba999]

43 minutes ago, kapibar said:

 

That fixed it, thanks.

[AlphaAndOmega]

21 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I've had reports that I broke progression last update. These are the conditions for the dialogue. If you could check the variables using the console 'help' and report back I'd appreciate it. Snowed under here. 

 

Hmm. In the debug menu there's an option to display/clear the task suspend forms. Check it out and report back please on what form if any is suspending tasks. 

Sorry, took me a while to get back. So:

1) I'm not sure if I did everything right, but here is the console output. I had to run the "sqv" command, right?

EDIT: I'd figured it out. Here:

pchsRequiredOutfitLevel==0.00

pchsUngiftedOutfitsThisLevelCount==0.00 (!)

pchsOutfitChangeCooldown==6.89

GameDaysPassed==10.63

 

 

2) The debug menu says that there are zero suspending forms. And I've remembered one more thing. I did the supply run before going to solitude. This means that I've complited a task while everything was suspended. Hope it helps.

 

The only thing I'm getting after waiting for 10 hours is 'The house is getting a bit untidy'.

ConSkrybe.log

 

Reverted to a save prior to the supply run thing and did it after returning from Solitude. Everything works fine now.

Edited November 19, 2021 by AlphaAndOmega

[Cybersky]

About this forced cum swallow drama, i swear this line appeared to me and i don't use SLSO (in the old or current game).

 

This happened to me before installing Paradise hall and Live Takes Time. Restarted the game again from abandoned prison, started de quest and I didn't have the line with all the requirements this time. (separate orgasms from SEXLAB is turned off and CUMSHOT is set to only appear in the final stage, no SLSO instalation).

Just bringing information, it is not a bug report, no complaints of any kind.

People who are complaining about the cumslut progression, use Fill her Up to clean your system then wash off. 
When you sleep and wake up dirty with cum it's already counting all the time you slept. 

Think of cum as Fallout radiation, sometimes you can't feel or see it but it's there!

Another thing for now I turned off the prostitution license. 
(Because currently the father does not give one and the responsible npc is not authorized to give it to you too)

I know it will be introduced in the near future so it's alright.

Edit: (Wankers give Monoman1 a break, he is doing miracles).

Edited November 19, 2021 by Cybersky

[kapibar]

26 minutes ago, Cybersky said:

About this forced cum swallow drama, i swear this line appeared to me and i don't use SLSO (in the old or current game).

Yeah, the forced swallowing dialogue starts up alright, SLSO or not. But what comes later - this is what's not working. And what comes later is one more dialogue which launches the quest.

[safado]

14 hours ago, kapibar said:

Another thing that came up yesterday - I'm actually quite levelled up, but repressing level increase. I figured more stamina might be useful (SLSO), so I unsealed my level. And surprise surprise, it's the courier, giving you - a nameless cum sponge - a letter from the Jarl, inviting you to buy a property. I know this is the game that presumes levelled adventurers are known in the world, but it murders immersion nonetheless. Would it be possible to stop couriers and Durak from appearing before you get kicked out of the house permanently? (I know, I know, you're busy and this is a minor detail, but one can hope...)

 

You should consider this Gameplay setup mod.  If the configurable event already happens is too late for the modification and will be a waste of slot index but is good for a new game. 

LE: Timing is Everything - Quest Delay and Timing Control at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

SE: Timing is Everything SE at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

 

You should also review the requirement pull down menu and look for conflict resolution patches. 

 

It will let you configure the Dawnguard recruitment, vampire events, Hearthfire (land purchase), Dragons events, some generic events, Dragonborn main quest start, and you better read the description for details. 

 

  This mod modifies Skyrim quest conditions and may conflict with your mods.   Better learn about detecting formid conflict using xEdit If you want it.  

 

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by safado
added some details.

[Xiaron]

Had a question about the breeder quest. As far as I can tell from the thread and poking the dialogue a bit there are three ways I start it. Have amp framework and bring mother home, after mother dies, or get pregnant. Is that correct or did I miss something?

[Cybersky]

Just now, Xiaron said:

Had a question about the breeder quest. As far as I can tell from the thread and poking the dialogue a bit there are three ways I start it. Have amp framework and bring mother home, after mother dies, or get pregnant. Is that correct or did I miss something?

That's it, you're good to go ?.

 

Spoils?

 

Spoiler

Beg and bring mother home / after mother dies for lack of payment (forced path);

Tag along and getting pregnant while paying mother's treatment is "almost" consensual.

 

Edit:

I always go last option, i dont like mother on cage, plus letting mother "die" has consequences now.

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by Cybersky

[safado]

49 minutes ago, Xiaron said:

Had a question about the breeder quest. As far as I can tell from the thread and poking the dialogue a bit there are three ways I start it. Have amp framework and bring mother home, after mother dies, or get pregnant. Is that correct or did I miss something?

I think, you are correct, but you do not need amputate framework.  That framework is optional. 

 

The request mother return (caged) will also reset outfit to level 100(fully naked level) and the use of heel and collar.

Its needs "Being female" or "Fertility Mode" mods to detect pregnancy and progress breeder stage.  The stages will trigger new dialogue from other Wartime NPC. 

The milk request after pregnant needs MilkMod Economy.  

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by safado

[Xiaron]

32 minutes ago, Cybersky said:

That's it, you're good to go ?.

 

Edit:

I always go last option, i dont like mother on cage, plus letting mother "die" has consequences now.

 

Thanks, and I have to agree with choosing the third path. I don't have the amp framework, and I've yet to screw up enough to have mother die. Getting knocked up with Fertility Mode and FHU however? Pretty much inevitable. 

 

20 minutes ago, safado said:

I think, you are correct, but you do not need amputate framework.  That framework is optional. 

 

The request mother return (caged) will also reset outfit to level 100(fully naked level) and the use of heel and collar.

Its needs "Being female" or "Fertility Mode" mods to detect pregnancy and progress breeder stage.  The stages will trigger new dialogue from other Wartime NPC. 

I know the framework is optional, but I don't believe the option to have mother return works without it? You just respond "I... I... (crying)" instead.

[safado]

16 minutes ago, Xiaron said:

Thanks, and I have to agree with choosing the third path. I don't have the amp framework, and I've yet to screw up enough to have mother die. Getting knocked up with Fertility Mode and FHU however? Pretty much inevitable. 

 

I know the framework is optional, but I don't believe the option to have mother return works without it? You just respond "I... I... (crying)" instead.

 

True, I did not notice the condition.   

[Xiaron]

I feel like all I'm doing is commenting in this thread lately, maybe I should save questions and comments for one post a day? Sheesh.

 

When thrown in the cellar and stripped the nails from YPS also get removed if using meshes. Is there any way to add an exclusion for them and/or other appearance items? 

 

 

[Cybersky]

45 minutes ago, Xiaron said:

When thrown in the cellar and stripped the nails from YPS also get removed if using meshes. Is there any way to add an exclusion for them and/or other appearance items? 

The same thing happened to me when Father threw me out with my bare ass on a mission to fetch supplies. To make matters worse, I still lost 980 gold donated to the Dibela fund.

 

Hint: dont use [Kaw] nail polish, apply another one that only uses slavetatts.

 

Edit: Pregnancy can be easily avoided if you take a day off when fertile or cheat and set the cum outside key in SexLab Tools.

 

It depends on your Roleplay.

Edited November 20, 2021 by Cybersky
Forget to tell something.

[DisarmingSnail]

1 hour ago, Cybersky said:

The same thing happened to me when Father threw me out with my bare ass on a mission to fetch supplies. To make matters worse, I still lost 980 gold donated to the Dibela fund.

 

If you want to avoid paying a fine whenever bound items like nails are dropped or removed, just disable the "Dropping Bounds Items Fine" in the YPS MCM menu. Useful if you use many mods that strip your PC. 

[DisarmingSnail]

2 hours ago, Xiaron said:

When thrown in the cellar and stripped the nails from YPS also get removed if using meshes. Is there any way to add an exclusion for them and/or other appearance items? 

 

 

IIRC bounds YPS items like nails should reappear when they're removed from your inventory. Ensure that the "Bound Items Reappear" option is enabled in YPS MCM, although it should be enabled by default.