Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Cybersky]

About this forced cum swallow drama, i swear this line appeared to me and i don't use SLSO (in the old or current game).

 

This happened to me before installing Paradise hall and Live Takes Time. Restarted the game again from abandoned prison, started de quest and I didn't have the line with all the requirements this time. (separate orgasms from SEXLAB is turned off and CUMSHOT is set to only appear in the final stage, no SLSO instalation).

Just bringing information, it is not a bug report, no complaints of any kind.

People who are complaining about the cumslut progression, use Fill her Up to clean your system then wash off. 
When you sleep and wake up dirty with cum it's already counting all the time you slept. 

Think of cum as Fallout radiation, sometimes you can't feel or see it but it's there!

Another thing for now I turned off the prostitution license. 
(Because currently the father does not give one and the responsible npc is not authorized to give it to you too)

I know it will be introduced in the near future so it's alright.

Edit: (Wankers give Monoman1 a break, he is doing miracles).

Edited November 19, 2021 by Cybersky

[kapibar]

26 minutes ago, Cybersky said:

About this forced cum swallow drama, i swear this line appeared to me and i don't use SLSO (in the old or current game).

Yeah, the forced swallowing dialogue starts up alright, SLSO or not. But what comes later - this is what's not working. And what comes later is one more dialogue which launches the quest.

[safado]

14 hours ago, kapibar said:

Another thing that came up yesterday - I'm actually quite levelled up, but repressing level increase. I figured more stamina might be useful (SLSO), so I unsealed my level. And surprise surprise, it's the courier, giving you - a nameless cum sponge - a letter from the Jarl, inviting you to buy a property. I know this is the game that presumes levelled adventurers are known in the world, but it murders immersion nonetheless. Would it be possible to stop couriers and Durak from appearing before you get kicked out of the house permanently? (I know, I know, you're busy and this is a minor detail, but one can hope...)

 

You should consider this Gameplay setup mod.  If the configurable event already happens is too late for the modification and will be a waste of slot index but is good for a new game. 

LE: Timing is Everything - Quest Delay and Timing Control at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

SE: Timing is Everything SE at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

 

You should also review the requirement pull down menu and look for conflict resolution patches. 

 

It will let you configure the Dawnguard recruitment, vampire events, Hearthfire (land purchase), Dragons events, some generic events, Dragonborn main quest start, and you better read the description for details. 

 

  This mod modifies Skyrim quest conditions and may conflict with your mods.   Better learn about detecting formid conflict using xEdit If you want it.  

 

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by safado
added some details.

[Xiaron]

Had a question about the breeder quest. As far as I can tell from the thread and poking the dialogue a bit there are three ways I start it. Have amp framework and bring mother home, after mother dies, or get pregnant. Is that correct or did I miss something?

[Cybersky]

Just now, Xiaron said:

Had a question about the breeder quest. As far as I can tell from the thread and poking the dialogue a bit there are three ways I start it. Have amp framework and bring mother home, after mother dies, or get pregnant. Is that correct or did I miss something?

That's it, you're good to go ?.

 

Spoils?

 

Spoiler

Beg and bring mother home / after mother dies for lack of payment (forced path);

Tag along and getting pregnant while paying mother's treatment is "almost" consensual.

 

Edit:

I always go last option, i dont like mother on cage, plus letting mother "die" has consequences now.

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by Cybersky

[safado]

49 minutes ago, Xiaron said:

Had a question about the breeder quest. As far as I can tell from the thread and poking the dialogue a bit there are three ways I start it. Have amp framework and bring mother home, after mother dies, or get pregnant. Is that correct or did I miss something?

I think, you are correct, but you do not need amputate framework.  That framework is optional. 

 

The request mother return (caged) will also reset outfit to level 100(fully naked level) and the use of heel and collar.

Its needs "Being female" or "Fertility Mode" mods to detect pregnancy and progress breeder stage.  The stages will trigger new dialogue from other Wartime NPC. 

The milk request after pregnant needs MilkMod Economy.  

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by safado

[Xiaron]

32 minutes ago, Cybersky said:

That's it, you're good to go ?.

 

Edit:

I always go last option, i dont like mother on cage, plus letting mother "die" has consequences now.

 

Thanks, and I have to agree with choosing the third path. I don't have the amp framework, and I've yet to screw up enough to have mother die. Getting knocked up with Fertility Mode and FHU however? Pretty much inevitable. 

 

20 minutes ago, safado said:

I think, you are correct, but you do not need amputate framework.  That framework is optional. 

 

The request mother return (caged) will also reset outfit to level 100(fully naked level) and the use of heel and collar.

Its needs "Being female" or "Fertility Mode" mods to detect pregnancy and progress breeder stage.  The stages will trigger new dialogue from other Wartime NPC. 

I know the framework is optional, but I don't believe the option to have mother return works without it? You just respond "I... I... (crying)" instead.

[safado]

16 minutes ago, Xiaron said:

Thanks, and I have to agree with choosing the third path. I don't have the amp framework, and I've yet to screw up enough to have mother die. Getting knocked up with Fertility Mode and FHU however? Pretty much inevitable. 

 

I know the framework is optional, but I don't believe the option to have mother return works without it? You just respond "I... I... (crying)" instead.

 

True, I did not notice the condition.   

[Xiaron]

I feel like all I'm doing is commenting in this thread lately, maybe I should save questions and comments for one post a day? Sheesh.

 

When thrown in the cellar and stripped the nails from YPS also get removed if using meshes. Is there any way to add an exclusion for them and/or other appearance items? 

 

 

[Cybersky]

45 minutes ago, Xiaron said:

When thrown in the cellar and stripped the nails from YPS also get removed if using meshes. Is there any way to add an exclusion for them and/or other appearance items? 

The same thing happened to me when Father threw me out with my bare ass on a mission to fetch supplies. To make matters worse, I still lost 980 gold donated to the Dibela fund.

 

Hint: dont use [Kaw] nail polish, apply another one that only uses slavetatts.

 

Edit: Pregnancy can be easily avoided if you take a day off when fertile or cheat and set the cum outside key in SexLab Tools.

 

It depends on your Roleplay.

Edited November 20, 2021 by Cybersky
Forget to tell something.

[DisarmingSnail]

1 hour ago, Cybersky said:

The same thing happened to me when Father threw me out with my bare ass on a mission to fetch supplies. To make matters worse, I still lost 980 gold donated to the Dibela fund.

 

If you want to avoid paying a fine whenever bound items like nails are dropped or removed, just disable the "Dropping Bounds Items Fine" in the YPS MCM menu. Useful if you use many mods that strip your PC. 

[DisarmingSnail]

2 hours ago, Xiaron said:

When thrown in the cellar and stripped the nails from YPS also get removed if using meshes. Is there any way to add an exclusion for them and/or other appearance items? 

 

 

IIRC bounds YPS items like nails should reappear when they're removed from your inventory. Ensure that the "Bound Items Reappear" option is enabled in YPS MCM, although it should be enabled by default. 

[safado]

22 hours ago, zinujeka said:

Hello again,
I am using Spank That Ass  mod.
The mother constantly gets out of cage in order to slap PC on ass or tits and call him whore.
Can this be fixed or is it in line with the plot?

 

In Spank MCM settings set "Furniture Spank" to 0.  It the main trigger inside the house like when using cook ware or ZAZ furniture. 

The NPC will not spank when equipped with armor/cloth/device with the keyword "zad_DeviousHeavyBondage" or is in faction "zbfFactionSlave" or "_pchsSlavesFaction".

 

You can try to manually add it to faction "_STA_NeverSpankFaction".

 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2021 by safado

[Xiaron]

5 hours ago, DisarmingSnail said:

IIRC bounds YPS items like nails should reappear when they're removed from your inventory. Ensure that the "Bound Items Reappear" option is enabled in YPS MCM, although it should be enabled by default. 

I did have that checked, the only issue was now I kept getting duplicates any time they were stripped.

 

I'm having an issue with the plugs not being removed for sex. Is there a way to check if I broke something, because it was working earlier but suddenly it's not anymore. Which is a bit problematic with the animation filter...

 

Edit: So I tried further testing and as far as I can tell the piercing job broke plug removal somehow? Bumped into father, gave apology sex and plugs were correctly removed. Was then sent to Solitude to have nipples pierced, went directly there and returned right back home. Deliberately triggered apology sex and the plugs were not removed that time.

Edited November 20, 2021 by Xiaron

[kapibar]

12 hours ago, safado said:

 

You should consider this Gameplay setup mod.  If the configurable event already happens is too late for the modification and will be a waste of slot index but is good for a new game. 

LE: Timing is Everything - Quest Delay and Timing Control at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

SE: Timing is Everything SE at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

 

I know of TiE and used it for quite some time. But it has a dramatic flaw - for a mod that does so little (let's be honest here - this is purely gameplay hygiene issue, not a gamechanger), it takes a valuable esp slot. This is a price I am not willing to pay to solve such a minor inconvenience.

[Monoman1]

32 minutes ago, kapibar said:

I know of TiE and used it for quite some time. But it has a dramatic flaw - for a mod that does so little (let's be honest here - this is purely gameplay hygiene issue, not a gamechanger), it takes a valuable esp slot. This is a price I am not willing to pay to solve such a minor inconvenience.

Merge it? If it's a stable and staple mod. 

Or better, merge weapons, armors, follower mods to make space for it. 

4 hours ago, Xiaron said:

I did have that checked, the only issue was now I kept getting duplicates any time they were stripped.

You'll get that anytime nails are removed from inv. 

I'll replace RemoveAllItems with a more considerate function but you'll still see it often enough from other mods/events anyway. 

4 hours ago, Xiaron said:

So I tried further testing and as far as I can tell the piercing job broke plug removal somehow? Bumped into father, gave apology sex and plugs were correctly removed. Was then sent to Solitude to have nipples pierced, went directly there and returned right back home. Deliberately triggered apology sex and the plugs were not removed that time.

I assume you mean DD plugs? There's not much interaction with DD in wartimes. It's not even a hard dep. It's mostly equip/remove. And (I'd have to check but I'm nearly sure) IF piercings don't even have a slot. 

 

[Xiaron]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

You'll get that anytime nails are removed from inv. 

I'll replace RemoveAllItems with a more considerate function but you'll still see it often enough from other mods/events anyway. 

 

I assume you mean DD plugs? There's not much interaction with DD in wartimes. It's not even a hard dep. It's mostly equip/remove. And (I'd have to check but I'm nearly sure) IF piercings don't even have a slot. 

 

Maybe it's my load order but while I'm aware of the duplicate issue, I don't actually see it very often since I don't have a full inventory removal very often either. Wartimes has caused that more times in the last few days then I usually see in a month. So while it's hardly a huge thing I would certainly appreciate the change.

 

I did mean DD plugs. During the cum slut quest/task father equips you with plugs that are then removed for any sex started through Wartimes. After going to Solitude the second time for the nipple piercings, they stopped being removed before sex which means when father demands vaginal sex the filter switches it to oral. I honestly have no idea why it's happening but that was literally the only thing I did between the function working, then not working. I can test again with different parameters if you want but it was literally apology sex with plug removal -> Solitude for nipple piercings - > apology sex plug not removed. No stops, no detours, no interactions other than talking to (in order) Father -> Bjorlam -> Toll Collector -> Tris -> Toll Collector -> Bjorlam -> Father. This applies both with and without welding, first piercing level had just earrings, second had earrings and nipples. 

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, Xiaron said:

After going to Solitude the second time for the nipple piercings, they stopped being removed before sex which means when father demands vaginal sex the filter switches it to oral.

It's not just you, I noticed the same thing today.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Xiaron said:

I did mean DD plugs. During the cum slut quest/task father equips you with plugs that are then removed for any sex started through Wartimes. After going to Solitude the second time for the nipple piercings, they stopped being removed before sex which means when father demands vaginal sex the filter switches it to oral. I honestly have no idea why it's happening but that was literally the only thing I did between the function working, then not working. I can test again with different parameters if you want but it was literally apology sex with plug removal -> Solitude for nipple piercings - > apology sex plug not removed. No stops, no detours, no interactions other than talking to (in order) Father -> Bjorlam -> Toll Collector -> Tris -> Toll Collector -> Bjorlam -> Father. This applies both with and without welding, first piercing level had just earrings, second had earrings and nipples. 

Are you sure the plugs aren't being removed at all? 

What I thought was happening in my game is that the plugs are removed too late most of the time because there's a race between WT and DD because we're probably firing off the same event. 

Unfortunately there is no earlier event that I'm aware of that I could use to get ahead of DD. The idea was to affect all sex scene not just ones by WT. 

[kapibar]

25 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Unfortunately there is no earlier event that I'm aware of that I could use to get ahead of DD. The idea was to affect all sex scene not just ones by WT. 

I'm sure that Cursed Loot or Deviously Enslaved has this kind of event, as I recall you get the message "they remove your plugs".

[Xiaron]

31 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Are you sure the plugs aren't being removed at all? 

What I thought was happening in my game is that the plugs are removed too late most of the time because there's a race between WT and DD because we're probably firing off the same event. 

Unfortunately there is no earlier event that I'm aware of that I could use to get ahead of DD. The idea was to affect all sex scene not just ones by WT. 

Unfortunately yes I'm sure. I do have the timing conflict, but I can switch to the proper animation when plug removal is working. After the piercing quest fires you can't switch to a new animation without manually going into inventory, removing the plugs, then choosing a new animation.  And it is working for all sex scenes prior to going to Solitude, I just hadn't had a sex event started by anything else yet to confirm that, but I have now.

 

Any steps you would like me to take to help track down the source of the bug? I can try checking if removal is working during the various stages of the piercing quest if you like to see where it breaks.

[Xiaron]

So, adding a second outfit to the outfit level 0 had father immediately give me the next level of outfit. Not sure if it will keep progressing correctly, but at the least it triggered the first change. I'll report back if the cycle keeps going.

 

Edit: It seems like a second outfit may be needed for each level, no progress until another was added to level 1 then an immediate change to level 2 occurred.

Edited November 22, 2021 by Xiaron

[safado]

13 hours ago, kapibar said:

I know of TiE and used it for quite some time. But it has a dramatic flaw - for a mod that does so little (let's be honest here - this is purely gameplay hygiene issue, not a gamechanger), it takes a valuable esp slot. This is a price I am not willing to pay to solve such a minor inconvenience.

 

Dawnguard's global variable that define the configurable starting condition.
DLC1VQMinLevel: As per selection above (Default 10)
DLC1VQMinLevelVampireAttacks: As per selection above (Default 8 )
DLC1RadiantDisguisedVampireLordChance: 0 (default 25)
 

You can modify yourself or...

Mergeable 9 years old mod for Skyrim 32bits.  The option for 50 give you until level 50 without recruiter.  I think is bashable because is only overrides.  Bash better than merge for this kind of plugins. (Bash is an override merge but goes to the end of index)

 

TiE SE is flagged ESL, it goes to secondary index leaving precious primary index free for content mods. 

 

I don't miss being a slut-for-slots, but still remember the pain of Skyrim 32bits.

Spoiler

I'm trolling. ?

 

 

 

 

[ck2modfan]

After WT main quest is over, there is little incentive (other than dealing with YPS addiction debuffs) for not wearing make-up, nail polish etc. 

 

Similar to Bikini license, maybe Whore License should come with conditions. Must look presentable as enforcer/toll gate guard won't believe it. Not sure of consequence but something that would incent use of YPS items.

[Cybersky]

6 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

After WT main quest is over, there is little incentive (other than dealing with YPS addiction debuffs) for not wearing make-up, nail polish etc. 

 

Similar to Bikini license, maybe Whore License should come with conditions. Must look presentable as enforcer/toll gate guard won't believe it. Not sure of consequence but something that would incent use of YPS items.

 

You get a huge buff in charisma, for me it's reason enough to keep using makeup? This boost success of npc accepting your conditions...

 

The guards already warn you about provocative clothes and curfew, that's why you need licenses. You earn zero gold without license using Aggressive Prostitution mod, guards will arrest you if they see you working in the street. Radiant Prostitution mod gives a hefty fine if you leave town wile working to Innkeepers.

 

Enforcer/toll guards are part of SLS territory.

 

Do you want to get stuck wearing makeup and Vanilla Tavern outfit to walk around or get in and out of town? I dont. You are suggesting YPS license? Don't you have enough headaches already? How about a license for alchemy and blacksmith?

 

Edited November 21, 2021 by Cybersky
Sarcasm included :D