Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Cerral]

Hi, I have a little problem with the quest asking the girl to fill cumtainers.
When she gives them to the father, he is not satisfied even though the right kind of sperm is given to him, and he does not force his daughter to drink the cumtainers. Is there any way to reset the quest?

I know you are very busy but I have a suggestion for the mod nonetheless. During the quest no bathing, and with fill her up, after asking her father if she can bathe again, and if the father says yes, since she is full of semen, the father could then ask her to fill a bucket (like the quest with Brutus) with all the semen in her and of course drink it. No waste.

Edited November 18, 2021 by Cerral

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

He's not exactly responsible. He kindly volunteers to convert it for me

Don't know tbh. Somethings fucked in my game with facial expressions is all I can tell you. And both my CK profile and main profile behave differently. It seems there are a lot of mods messing with expressions and tongues these days and SLS (+ the open mouth scripts for SLSO) has been neglected lately. So I'm not sure if it's me or something else.

It's you alright . It was SLS's Ahegao function that was unchecked in the MCM but somehow started when SLS detected SLSO. All I had to do was to check and uncheck the option and voila. No more expression changes.

 

 

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Not sure exactly what you mean by this. What is SL HDT readjustment?

SexLab removes HDT heels effect for the scenes. Change in the expression caused PC's position to change, which offed the character a little bit in the animation. Little bit irritating, nothing major. And already taken care of. But maybe something you should keep in mind for the future development.

[Silvain]

13 hours ago, ilovetea69 said:

can this mod work with SE skyrim?

 

8 hours ago, kapibar said:

@Silvain is responsible for converting to SE, you should find the latest version in the post below:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3463767

 

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

He's not exactly responsible. He kindly volunteers to convert it for me

 

What Monoman1 said. I just happen to have the fastest wartimes converting fingers.

 

@ilovetea69 With one exception everything works in SE as far as I know. The poses from the LE mod "display model" don't work on SE since the mod is not easily convertable. But that is just eye candy that is missing I think.

 

[kapibar]

19 minutes ago, Silvain said:

What Monoman1 said. I just happen to have the fastest wartimes converting fingers.

 

I just know that if MM1 posts an update, I can go to the fidge, grab a beer, refresh, and here you are, with a brand new conversion ?. You're doing a great job and I think you should get all the credit for doing it.

[Silvain]

51 minutes ago, kapibar said:

I just know that if MM1 posts an update, I can go to the fidge, grab a beer, refresh, and here you are, with a brand new conversion ?. You're doing a great job and I think you should get all the credit for doing it.

 

Well, thanks I guess. But "taking credit" for something that takes around ~10 minutes (if SLS gets an update as well) and does not need any real knowledge or skill is... Well a bit weird. I'd convert it for personal use anyway and then I can take the minute to upload it.

 

Most mods can be converted by anybody. Most people are just too lazy or too busy.

[kapibar]

6 minutes ago, Silvain said:

 

Well, thanks I guess. But "taking credit" for something that takes around ~10 minutes (if SLS gets an update as well) and does not need any real knowledge or skill is... Well a bit weird. I'd convert it for personal use anyway and then I can take the minute to upload it.

 

Most mods can be converted by anybody. Most people are just too lazy or too busy.

And then, there you are. Doing something that everyone else is too lazy or too busy to do themselves and sharing your work. Learn to take a well deserved complement, man .

[bubba999]

I'm wondering how people are roleplaying this? For instance with, TDF prostitution installed, can the daughter turn tricks in Whiterun to help her mom? Can she do deliveries to other towns? (using Missives) Can she earn enough to buy licenses and help Mom? Of course, I'm just starting and don't know what's going to happen...

[Monoman1]

11 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

I'm wondering how people are roleplaying this? For instance with, TDF prostitution installed, can the daughter turn tricks in Whiterun to help her mom? Can she do deliveries to other towns? (using Missives) Can she earn enough to buy licenses and help Mom? Of course, I'm just starting and don't know what's going to happen...

Prostitution's fine I think. 

 

Visiting other towns is fine but you've got to take your duties into account. You can't go that far away before you've another task to do. So you'll have to ask for time off. 

Also keep in mind that you're a resident of Whiterun in SLS. You have a home there which means you don't need to pay tolls or have an escort in that hold. That won't apply to other holds. And getting landed with a devious follower is going to be a tough one. 

 

If you haven't already I'd recommend lowering your timescale to give you more time to explore between tasks. 

 

Licences can be 'bought' relatively cheaply with favour via father. In fact I think by default it's the only place you can buy licences (there's an option).

6 hours ago, kapibar said:

SexLab removes HDT heels effect for the scenes. Change in the expression caused PC's position to change, which offed the character a little bit in the animation. Little bit irritating, nothing major.

Still don't get it tbh. Why would changing the expression change their positions? Sexlab does it all the time during an animation...

Edited November 18, 2021 by Monoman1

[kapibar]

3 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Still don't get it tbh. Why would changing the expression change their positions? Sexlab does it all the time during an animation...

Actually, I do not think it's the expression itself, but a tongue that is equipped. Probably has something to do with the fact SL animations were not exactly designed to support equipping/unequipping. I'm not exactly mod scientist if you haven't noticed :D.

[bubba999]

9 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Prostitution's fine I think. 

 

Visiting other towns is fine but you've got to take your duties into account. You can't go that far away before you've another task to do. So you'll have to ask for time off. 

Also keep in mind that you're a resident of Whiterun in SLS. You have a home there which means you don't need to pay tolls or have an escort in that hold. That won't apply to other holds. And getting landed with a devious follower is going to be a tough one. 

 

If you haven't already I'd recommend lowering your timescale to give you more time to explore between tasks. 

 

Licences can be 'bought' relatively cheaply with favour via father. In fact I think by default it's the only place you can buy licences (there's an option).

 

Good info, thanks. I set the timescale to 12. She managed to do the first job for Laura's Bondage Shop right across the street. Missives will often give you deliveries in the same hold so that's good.

[kapibar]

8 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

Good info, thanks. I set the timescale to 12. She managed to do the first job for Laura's Bondage Shop right across the street. Missives will often give you deliveries in the same hold so that's good.

If you have LBS, there's an easily accessible source of income. Laura will tie you up for free. Now, the trick is to save the game before trying to struggle. If you fail - and you will - just reload the save and try again. It doesn't really eat up a lot of in-game time, end reselling bondage stuff will give you a steady income. As the WT progresses, you can whore yourself out (for roleplaying purpusoses I wouldn't do it in the beginning, as the character is rather prude).

Edited November 18, 2021 by kapibar

[Monoman1]

Just now, kapibar said:

Now, the trick is to save the game before trying to struggle. If you fail - and you will - just reload the save and try again.

[kapibar]

2 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

What? Don't tell me you didn't think of it.

[Monoman1]

14 minutes ago, kapibar said:

What? Don't tell me you didn't think of it

Well I don't have LBS. 

That reminds me. Must try LBS.

But not to cheat! ?

[Xiaron]

Is this intended or did I find a bug? After being given the collar, both wearing and not wearing the collar when speaking to him are rewarded.

 

Father is displeased I'm not wearing my collar (Fav +1, Sub +1)
Father smiles as he sees I wear his collar around my neck (Fav +1, Sub +1)

 

I'm guessing displeased was intended to be a minus not a plus? 

[Monoman1]

2 minutes ago, Xiaron said:

I'm guessing displeased was intended to be a minus not a plus? 

Ahhh. Yep. That's a whoopsie. Surprised nobody caught that by now. Bunch of collar wearing subs around here

Fixed now. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Monoman1

[bubba999]

Having a blast so far. One thing I would like to see is the extra jobs maybe show up in the journal? If you miss the notification you won't know what's available. (The hounds, Skulvar, Jazeem.)

 

 

(Went to see Jazeem, door unlocked his house and he keeps telling me "you're not supposed to be in here!")

Edited November 18, 2021 by bubba999

[bubba999]

55 minutes ago, kapibar said:

If you have LBS, there's an easily accessible source of income. Laura will tie you up for free. Now, the trick is to save the game before trying to struggle. If you fail - and you will - just reload the save and try again. It doesn't really eat up a lot of in-game time, end reselling bondage stuff will give you a steady income. As the WT progresses, you can whore yourself out (for roleplaying purpusoses I wouldn't do it in the beginning, as the character is rather prude).

Oh, she would never cheat! And to be a ho.... shocking!

 

Say, would Skooma Whore fit in well....?

[kapibar]

On 11/18/2021 at 8:55 PM, Monoman1 said:

Well I don't have LBS. 

That reminds me. Must try LBS.

But not to cheat! ?

You softie, that's not cheating. This is using one mod's mechanics against different mod's premise. Now this is cheating:

 

(spoiler, because this is gamebreaking)

Spoiler

Selling equipped devious devices. They can't be unequipped (sold), so the cash is tranferred to PC, but devices remain equipped. If you have 2+ devices you can sell them indefinitely until merchants cash has been drained empty. Can cause CTD.

 

Btw.: If you never played LBS, I strongly reccomend it. It's probably a little soft for your taste, but it's a very well thought-out and cute voluntary BDSM story. Lots of heart went into its development, and it can be felt. The story is still unfinished though.

  

On 11/18/2021 at 9:28 PM, bubba999 said:

Say, would Skooma Whore fit in well....?

I never played it, but from my understanding it is an addiction mod, and drugs - as I learned recently - are actually present in WT, so you can probably use father as a convenient drug dealer.

 

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by kapibar

[Xiaron]

Question about the party task. I left the task setting at the default 10, did 10 tasks while skipping all the dance requests and not wearing the collar I was told to and it ended on the 10th task with 10 satisfaction but  got "Father was very pleased with me (Fav +10, Dep +1 Sub +1)". Was that intended? Because it seems a little strange to get the max reward while not following instructions.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Xiaron said:

Question about the party task. I left the task setting at the default 10, did 10 tasks while skipping all the dance requests and not wearing the collar I was told to and it ended on the 10th task with 10 satisfaction but  got "Father was very pleased with me (Fav +10, Dep +1 Sub +1)". Was that intended? Because it seems a little strange to get the max reward while not following instructions.

The party is kind of an odd one. Needs more work. In a recent update I changed the number of jobs (was a hard 20. Now configurable) and added a formula to calculate the 'passing' grades. I also increased the points requirement but the formula is 'flat'. Which resulted in sometimes I wasn't ever able to get a passing score. Just because sometimes I was never asked to dance or sex (2/3 points). So I reduced the points requirement again. 

 

What needs to change really is that the passing grade is accumulated as you're asked to do tasks. So:

Asked to get drink - add one point for max grade. 

Asked to dance - add two points to max grade. 

Asked for sex - add three points etc.

And then at the end determine the passing grade. Instead it's done at the start. 

 

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

Selling equipped devious devices. They can't be unequipped (sold), so the cash is tranferred to PC, but devices remain equipped. If you have 2+ devices you can sell them indifferently until merchants cash has been drained empty. Can cause CTD.

?

Would have thought a mod that locks the menu by default would have protection against that. Scripting wise though I can see how that would be difficult (if not impossible tbh). Sometimes you just have to RP and exercise self control. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Monoman1

[AlphaAndOmega]

Hello. Is there a way to force a transition to a new outfit level without rolling dice with the forcegreet? The dice gods don't seem to be on my side.

 

On a slightly unrelated topic: is there a command to reset father's needs? I think they've broken somehow (no day off and yet there are no tasks for a whole day). I didn't see anything unusual apart from getting back from Solitude slightly after midnight, but I don't think that it's the problem.

 

Thanks in advance.

Edited November 18, 2021 by AlphaAndOmega

[Monoman1]

12 minutes ago, AlphaAndOmega said:

Hello. Is there a way to force a transition to a new outfit level without rolling dice with the forcegreet? The dice gods don't seem to be on my side.

I've had reports that I broke progression last update. These are the conditions for the dialogue. If you could check the variables using the console 'help' and report back I'd appreciate it. Snowed under here. 

 

24 minutes ago, AlphaAndOmega said:

On a slightly unrelated topic: is there a command to reset father's needs? I think they've broken somehow (no day off and yet there are no tasks for a whole day). I didn't see anything unusual apart from getting back from Solitude slightly after midnight, but I don't think that it's the problem.

Hmm. In the debug menu there's an option to display/clear the task suspend forms. Check it out and report back please on what form if any is suspending tasks. 

[kapibar]

Few thougths on the cumslut quest.

The addiction goes way to quickly IMO. In a single (!) day my PC was completely addicted. From a girl that spits out cum to sperm sucking slut in a day? Quite ridiculous, really. As are cum addiction debuffs, that from what I've seen are not configurable, so it's very easy to end up with no stamina and no magicka regen. I'm all for playing a weak character, but the stamina debuff just kills any chance of actually playing the game. WT creates an environment in which SLS wreaks havoc with the stats. I also have iNeed, which practically forces to swallow cum every hour or so in order to keep hunger/thirst in check. Maybe this is because I'm not used to playing this quest and there is more immersive (less crippling) way to manage this quest, but at this moment it  doesn't feel balanced. My character is completely addicted and hungry/thirsty all the time, with little to no way to actually satisfy those needs.

MM1 I hope you don't find this feedback offensive. I do not exclude the possibility that my decisions might've sped up things, but still it felt all to easy to fall this deep in such a short time.
 

Also, father requires a filled cumtainer, but he only gave it to me once. Is there a vendor from which I'm supposed to buy it, or should the father give it to PC at some point?

[Monoman1]

35 minutes ago, kapibar said:

Also, father requires a filled cumtainer, but he only gave it to me once. Is there a vendor from which I'm supposed to buy it, or should the father give it to PC at some point?

You should get as many containers as you need. May take into account how many are in your inventory and your end table. So that you're not hoarding. Alchemy merchants should have some. 

35 minutes ago, kapibar said:

The addiction goes way to quickly IMO. In a single (!) day my PC was completely addicted. From a girl that spits out cum to sperm sucking slut in a day? Quite ridiculous, really. As are cum addiction debuffs, that from what I've seen are not configurable, so it's very easy to end up with no stamina and no magicka regen. I'm all for playing a weak character, but the stamina debuff just kills any chance of actually playing the game. WT creates an environment in which SLS wreaks havoc with the stats. I also have iNeed, which practically forces to swallow cum every hour or so in order to keep hunger/thirst in check. Maybe this is because I'm not used to playing this quest and there is more immersive (less crippling) way to manage this quest, but at this moment it  doesn't feel balanced. My character is completely addicted and hungry/thirsty all the time, with little to no way to actually satisfy those needs.

Afraid this is something you'll have to balance out yourself mostly based on your own playstyle, game setup & RP. I've had other people tell me that addiction decays too quickly for them to get addicted. Factors:

Timescale - Higher = faster addiction decay. Less chance for you to be sucking dicks within the hour. 

iNeed food rate (I don't know is there such an option. I'd assume there is)

Addiction decay per hour in SLS. 

Hunger rate in SLS. 

Be mindful of the 'encourage bestiality' option. 

Edited November 19, 2021 by Monoman1