Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[kapibar]

7 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

MMmm. 

Install it and try again. I'll bet my hat it's the reason. It doesn't look like there's any provision for non slso. 

Would explain a lot. Why I've never seen it and most people don't have the problem. 

Actually, it was my theory for quite some time now, but I assumed you would know if this was the case and discarded it :P. There was a discussion on this thread about similar problem some time ago and it was connected to SLSO.

I'll check (don't know if today) and get back to you with an answer. If this is really the case, you might consider making SLSO a hard requirement. Or patch things up, I heard you are quite good at it ;).

[bubba999]

I don't use SLSO so would prefer a patch!

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 installing SLSO worked. Everything went smoothly. After the swallowing event all I had to do was swallow once again and the quest started. Also, something that never came up before, father equipped Skooma. So I assume this too was fucked up by not using SLSO.

So we can consider this long-lasting problem solved. Partly, because SLSO is really not my thing. Sure, I can just set everything to a proper normal SL order, but this would cost me a valuable slot on the mod list, so I - and apparently @bubba999 as well - would be grateful if you would consider introducing a patch. Puh-retty please? ☺️

[Monoman1]

22 minutes ago, kapibar said:

Also, something that never came up before, father equipped Skooma. So I assume this too was fucked up by not using SLSO

Yup. Doesn't really make any sense for non SLSO users because every actor always orgasms (simultaneously too) so there's no need for a stamina boost and father's dialogue about not making him cum won't make any sense. 

 

There's also no sex game for time off. You just get time off. Nice and easy  (too easy!)

[ck2modfan]

When father subsidizes fashion, does it account for modified prices from mods like Trade and Barter? I was using PC Exhibitionist which has price modification. With PC Exhib, the prices of fashion items were too expensive. I dropped that mod but looking to add T&B only if doesn't throw off father subsidies. Is there a preferred price modification mod that works best with SLS/WT?

[Monoman1]

6 minutes ago, ck2modfan said:

When father subsidizes fashion, does it account for modified prices from mods like Trade and Barter? I was using PC Exhibitionist which has price modification. With PC Exhib, the prices of fashion items were too expensive. I dropped that mod but looking to add T&B only if doesn't throw off father subsidies. Is there a preferred price modification mod that works best with SLS/WT?

It's just a flat, best guess thing I'm afraid. No fancy calculations at all. 

[kapibar]

36 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Yup. Doesn't really make any sense for non SLSO users because every actor always orgasms (simultaneously too) so there's no need for a stamina boost and father's dialogue about not making him cum won't make any sense. 

 

There's also no sex game for time off. You just get time off. Nice and easy  (too easy!)

Alright, I'll give it a try if you recommend it so much.

But can anyone help me with figuring out how to even use this fucked up mod? I've been trying for an hour now and I have no clue on how to operate this goddamn thing.

[Monoman1]

13 minutes ago, kapibar said:

Alright, I'll give it a try if you recommend it so much.

But can anyone help me with figuring out how to even use this fucked up mod? I've been trying for an hour now and I have no clue on how to operate this goddamn thing.

Oh hey. Don't install it on my account. I'm just saying that most of my development (and testing) I do with SLSO installed. 

 

By default

Mouse1 to increase your partners enjoyment. Mouse2 to 'edge' (reduce enjoyment). You need a certain amount of stamina/magicka to do either. 

Holding left shift switches focus to the PC so mouse1 increases your enjoyment etc. 

 

Make sure to enable 'Use separate orgasms' in the SEXLAB mcm otherwise the mod is kind of off. 

 

BTW I'm testing changes. But testing SLSO really to make sure I didn't break something that was working...

I think someone else will have to test non SLSO. I just don't have the time to do both. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by Monoman1

[vocal]

On 11/16/2021 at 3:22 PM, Monoman1 said:

Don't recall that.

There is minimum arousal applied before sex. 

If my memory dosn't fail me it was something along the lines of adding father to the list of cock Size from Survival to make the PC addicted to it. Ring any bells?

[ilovetea69]

can this mod work with SE skyrim?

[kapibar]

6 hours ago, ilovetea69 said:

can this mod work with SE skyrim?

@Silvain is responsible for converting to SE, you should find the latest version in the post below:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3463767

 

@Monoman1 I have a question. SLSO also had an unexpeted side-effect on your other opus magnum, SLS - now PC sticks out her tongue during animations, which causes SL HDT readjustment and positions are slightly off. I have no clue how to turn it off, it looks like Ahegao expressions, but those are off in MCM. Any ideas?

Edited November 18, 2021 by kapibar

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, kapibar said:

@Silvain is responsible for converting to SE, you should find the latest version in the post below:

He's not exactly responsible. He kindly volunteers to convert it for me

2 hours ago, kapibar said:

I have a question. SLSO also had an unexpeted side-effect on your other opus magnum, SLS - now PC sticks out her tongue during animations, which causes SL HDT readjustment and positions are slightly off. I have no clue how to turn it off, it looks like Ahegao expressions, but those are off in MCM. Any ideas?

Don't know tbh. Somethings fucked in my game with facial expressions is all I can tell you. And both my CK profile and main profile behave differently. It seems there are a lot of mods messing with expressions and tongues these days and SLS (+ the open mouth scripts for SLSO) has been neglected lately. So I'm not sure if it's me or something else. I've been focusing pretty much all my spare time on wartimes lately and it'll pretty much have to stay that way until I'm done I think. + I'm very busy personally lately. But there hasn't been any complaints in SLS about ahegao lately that I remember. 

 

3 hours ago, kapibar said:

causes SL HDT readjustment and positions are slightly off.

Not sure exactly what you mean by this. What is SL HDT readjustment? Position of the tongue is off or the position of the actors is off? 

Stock tongues don't have HDT so I don't see why they'd interact at all. They're just a regular armor. 

[Cerral]

Hi, I have a little problem with the quest asking the girl to fill cumtainers.
When she gives them to the father, he is not satisfied even though the right kind of sperm is given to him, and he does not force his daughter to drink the cumtainers. Is there any way to reset the quest?

I know you are very busy but I have a suggestion for the mod nonetheless. During the quest no bathing, and with fill her up, after asking her father if she can bathe again, and if the father says yes, since she is full of semen, the father could then ask her to fill a bucket (like the quest with Brutus) with all the semen in her and of course drink it. No waste.

Edited November 18, 2021 by Cerral

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

He's not exactly responsible. He kindly volunteers to convert it for me

Don't know tbh. Somethings fucked in my game with facial expressions is all I can tell you. And both my CK profile and main profile behave differently. It seems there are a lot of mods messing with expressions and tongues these days and SLS (+ the open mouth scripts for SLSO) has been neglected lately. So I'm not sure if it's me or something else.

It's you alright . It was SLS's Ahegao function that was unchecked in the MCM but somehow started when SLS detected SLSO. All I had to do was to check and uncheck the option and voila. No more expression changes.

 

 

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Not sure exactly what you mean by this. What is SL HDT readjustment?

SexLab removes HDT heels effect for the scenes. Change in the expression caused PC's position to change, which offed the character a little bit in the animation. Little bit irritating, nothing major. And already taken care of. But maybe something you should keep in mind for the future development.

[Silvain]

13 hours ago, ilovetea69 said:

can this mod work with SE skyrim?

 

8 hours ago, kapibar said:

@Silvain is responsible for converting to SE, you should find the latest version in the post below:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3463767

 

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

He's not exactly responsible. He kindly volunteers to convert it for me

 

What Monoman1 said. I just happen to have the fastest wartimes converting fingers.

 

@ilovetea69 With one exception everything works in SE as far as I know. The poses from the LE mod "display model" don't work on SE since the mod is not easily convertable. But that is just eye candy that is missing I think.

 

[kapibar]

19 minutes ago, Silvain said:

What Monoman1 said. I just happen to have the fastest wartimes converting fingers.

 

I just know that if MM1 posts an update, I can go to the fidge, grab a beer, refresh, and here you are, with a brand new conversion ?. You're doing a great job and I think you should get all the credit for doing it.

[Silvain]

51 minutes ago, kapibar said:

I just know that if MM1 posts an update, I can go to the fidge, grab a beer, refresh, and here you are, with a brand new conversion ?. You're doing a great job and I think you should get all the credit for doing it.

 

Well, thanks I guess. But "taking credit" for something that takes around ~10 minutes (if SLS gets an update as well) and does not need any real knowledge or skill is... Well a bit weird. I'd convert it for personal use anyway and then I can take the minute to upload it.

 

Most mods can be converted by anybody. Most people are just too lazy or too busy.

[kapibar]

6 minutes ago, Silvain said:

 

Well, thanks I guess. But "taking credit" for something that takes around ~10 minutes (if SLS gets an update as well) and does not need any real knowledge or skill is... Well a bit weird. I'd convert it for personal use anyway and then I can take the minute to upload it.

 

Most mods can be converted by anybody. Most people are just too lazy or too busy.

And then, there you are. Doing something that everyone else is too lazy or too busy to do themselves and sharing your work. Learn to take a well deserved complement, man .

[bubba999]

I'm wondering how people are roleplaying this? For instance with, TDF prostitution installed, can the daughter turn tricks in Whiterun to help her mom? Can she do deliveries to other towns? (using Missives) Can she earn enough to buy licenses and help Mom? Of course, I'm just starting and don't know what's going to happen...

[Monoman1]

11 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

I'm wondering how people are roleplaying this? For instance with, TDF prostitution installed, can the daughter turn tricks in Whiterun to help her mom? Can she do deliveries to other towns? (using Missives) Can she earn enough to buy licenses and help Mom? Of course, I'm just starting and don't know what's going to happen...

Prostitution's fine I think. 

 

Visiting other towns is fine but you've got to take your duties into account. You can't go that far away before you've another task to do. So you'll have to ask for time off. 

Also keep in mind that you're a resident of Whiterun in SLS. You have a home there which means you don't need to pay tolls or have an escort in that hold. That won't apply to other holds. And getting landed with a devious follower is going to be a tough one. 

 

If you haven't already I'd recommend lowering your timescale to give you more time to explore between tasks. 

 

Licences can be 'bought' relatively cheaply with favour via father. In fact I think by default it's the only place you can buy licences (there's an option).

6 hours ago, kapibar said:

SexLab removes HDT heels effect for the scenes. Change in the expression caused PC's position to change, which offed the character a little bit in the animation. Little bit irritating, nothing major.

Still don't get it tbh. Why would changing the expression change their positions? Sexlab does it all the time during an animation...

Edited November 18, 2021 by Monoman1

[kapibar]

3 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Still don't get it tbh. Why would changing the expression change their positions? Sexlab does it all the time during an animation...

Actually, I do not think it's the expression itself, but a tongue that is equipped. Probably has something to do with the fact SL animations were not exactly designed to support equipping/unequipping. I'm not exactly mod scientist if you haven't noticed :D.

[bubba999]

9 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Prostitution's fine I think. 

 

Visiting other towns is fine but you've got to take your duties into account. You can't go that far away before you've another task to do. So you'll have to ask for time off. 

Also keep in mind that you're a resident of Whiterun in SLS. You have a home there which means you don't need to pay tolls or have an escort in that hold. That won't apply to other holds. And getting landed with a devious follower is going to be a tough one. 

 

If you haven't already I'd recommend lowering your timescale to give you more time to explore between tasks. 

 

Licences can be 'bought' relatively cheaply with favour via father. In fact I think by default it's the only place you can buy licences (there's an option).

 

Good info, thanks. I set the timescale to 12. She managed to do the first job for Laura's Bondage Shop right across the street. Missives will often give you deliveries in the same hold so that's good.

[kapibar]

8 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

Good info, thanks. I set the timescale to 12. She managed to do the first job for Laura's Bondage Shop right across the street. Missives will often give you deliveries in the same hold so that's good.

If you have LBS, there's an easily accessible source of income. Laura will tie you up for free. Now, the trick is to save the game before trying to struggle. If you fail - and you will - just reload the save and try again. It doesn't really eat up a lot of in-game time, end reselling bondage stuff will give you a steady income. As the WT progresses, you can whore yourself out (for roleplaying purpusoses I wouldn't do it in the beginning, as the character is rather prude).

Edited November 18, 2021 by kapibar

[Monoman1]

Just now, kapibar said:

Now, the trick is to save the game before trying to struggle. If you fail - and you will - just reload the save and try again.

[kapibar]

2 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

What? Don't tell me you didn't think of it.