Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Highborn]

3 hours ago, Pandorum_15 said:

who thinks these ideas are good? comment, I would like to hear opinions

I like the 'yes, father' and 'yes, master' dialogue options. The requirement to have a broom, casserole and tray seems nice, as a pure immersion addition. 

 

On 8/7/2020 at 12:37 PM, Pandorum_15 said:

> If it is possible to add all the meshes  like  the collar  and the bdsm decorations  etc as independent. 

by independent you mean as an add-on, rather than part of the main mod? I'd appreciate that, as I'm not that into heavy bdsm stuff, but you can avoid it by acting nice with father, I believe.

[Tenri]

3 hours ago, Pandorum_15 said:

who thinks these ideas are good? comment, I would like to hear opinions

1. sure more dynamic dialogue would be nice.

2. In Slaverun Reloaded changing the players name made sense as they were literally changing your legal name in the story, makes less sense here. Though adding greetings or whatnot to other NPCs that refer to your status might be nice.

3. If the intention is including the assets (models/textures/animations) in the mod so that you don't need all of ZAZ that brings up issues of permissions, and duplicating all that for the people who would have ZAZ anyway, and possibly other problems. Some of that is the reason the ZAZ and DD frameworks exist in the first place.

4. It wouldn't be a bad idea to require the items wouldn't be too difficult, gameplay wise it would add very little just a small amount of carry weight, a bit more immersive sure, but I would like them to be supplied for you to use (lying around the house) if they were needed to be had.

5. that would require making a new collar rather than using a standard ZAZ collar as it does right now, including a new script for it to do those things. Not for or against it, but would rather have it as a progressive or punishment collar than the starting one, since putting the collar on is "voluntary" currently.

[Ds4nch3z]

On 8/8/2020 at 12:55 PM, Tenri said:

From what I can tell currently the only way to get the boots is to beg to get mother back without enough gold, there are other consequences to that action as well, and in the future they will be a reward after one of the unimplemented events.

 

You could give yourself the boots xx0A2F50, xx being the load order position of wartimes esp

then set pchsGotHeels to 1, to enable his expecting you to wear them

I believe its because this part of the quest hasn't been implemented yet

 

father has to throw a house party (which is currently in red text) and after you perform your duties at the party he will forcegreet you and ask you to wear the heels for him

[Pandorum_15]

On 8/8/2020 at 7:54 PM, Highborn said:

I like the 'yes, father' and 'yes, master' dialogue options. The requirement to have a broom, casserole and tray seems nice, as a pure immersion addition. 

 

by independent you mean as an add-on, rather than part of the main mod? I'd appreciate that, as I'm not that into heavy bdsm stuff, but you can avoid it by acting nice with father, I believe.

I mean the gifts and the bdsm decoration that does not depend so much on the Zaz animation in the mesh only.  

[Pandorum_15]

On 8/8/2020 at 8:19 PM, Tenri said:

1. sure more dynamic dialogue would be nice.

2. In Slaverun Reloaded changing the players name made sense as they were literally changing your legal name in the story, makes less sense here. Though adding greetings or whatnot to other NPCs that refer to your status might be nice.

3. If the intention is including the assets (models/textures/animations) in the mod so that you don't need all of ZAZ that brings up issues of permissions, and duplicating all that for the people who would have ZAZ anyway, and possibly other problems. Some of that is the reason the ZAZ and DD frameworks exist in the first place.

4. It wouldn't be a bad idea to require the items wouldn't be too difficult, gameplay wise it would add very little just a small amount of carry weight, a bit more immersive sure, but I would like them to be supplied for you to use (lying around the house) if they were needed to be had.

5. that would require making a new collar rather than using a standard ZAZ collar as it does right now, including a new script for it to do those things. Not for or against it, but would rather have it as a progressive or punishment collar than the starting one, since putting the collar on is "voluntary" currently.

you are right that good comments. and that the people make comments about the starus change is a good idea that I think would have to add sex dialog mod 

 

[justbob2]

I have a suggestion for future updates.  You already have "I'll Take The Display Module" as a requirement".  I'd like to see it used more.  Would it be possible for the father to put the daughter on display?  Even if it's just a command to activate self bondage.  You could preposition stands/furniture from the mod at the same time as you trigger the bondage furniture, then add a dialog to the father for the command to display yourself for him.  You could also find an excuse put mother on display.  I'm not sure exactly how I would fit that in immersively, but I'm sure you could think of something.  Maybe you could ask your fans for suggestions (just like you are doing now)?

[Poodledee]

3 hours ago, justbob2 said:

I have a suggestion for future updates.  You already have "I'll Take The Display Module" as a requirement".  I'd like to see it used more.  Would it be possible for the father to put the daughter on display?  Even if it's just a command to activate self bondage.  You could preposition stands/furniture from the mod at the same time as you trigger the bondage furniture, then add a dialog to the father for the command to display yourself for him.  You could also find an excuse put mother on display.  I'm not sure exactly how I would fit that in immersively, but I'm sure you could think of something.  Maybe you could ask your fans for suggestions (just like you are doing now)?

Definitely a good suggestion which seems to possibly have light at the end of the tunnel. Based on the chart on front page it seems to be something planned to some extent if I read it correctly.

[justbob2]

24 minutes ago, Poodledee said:

Definitely a good suggestion which seems to possibly have light at the end of the tunnel. Based on the chart on front page it seems to be something planned to some extent if I read it correctly.

Yes ... the House Party!  maybe? please?!

[Dabuhhh]

i have the problem with skuulvar the old man maid or something like that, the log versions says that is fixed but is not in my new game he says that is too late to stay in his home or i not should be there, sorry for my eng

[Ds4nch3z]

11 minutes ago, Dabuhhh said:

i have the problem with skuulvar the old man maid or something like that, the log versions says that is fixed but is not in my new game he says that is too late to stay in his home or i not should be there, sorry for my eng

i used console commands to teleport him outside. just click on him to get his id go outside and then teleport him to you

 

with moveto player

[Tenri]

12 hours ago, Dabuhhh said:

i have the problem with skuulvar the old man maid or something like that, the log versions says that is fixed but is not in my new game he says that is too late to stay in his home or i not should be there, sorry for my eng

As soon as you get given the gold from the job you are removed from the faction and therefore are no longer welcomed in the home, If it is complaining before you collect your gold then something is wrong though.

[LeRoiDuCaca]

When i buy mother back into our house she justs spawn back home instead of being sold as a slave. I still get the dialogue that she was sold as a slave to a noble by father. However, when i go and try to talk to uncle benjen there are no dialogs. So im kinda stuck anyone knows how to resolve that problem. Like a reset command maybe ?

[lcewolf]

I must say that I am not a fan of being pregnant, but with this exception I find this mod exceptional! I hope the author did not complete the possible choices and endings. I wish that when we serve our father the choices would become darker and darker. After our father asks us to serve him naked, the next step would be to serve him and his friends in this way. May our father order us to leave our clothes at home and steal them. When our father asks us to serve him naked he should not be satisfied when he sees us in a servant's habit.

 

If the PC have to become pregnant of his father, she should have the anal option avalable for everyone.

 

Anyway thank you for this mod!

[Tenri]

3 hours ago, lcewolf said:

I must say that I am not a fan of being pregnant,

Hopefully pchs can enable soft dependency for the pregnancy mod they end up using, depending on what all is decided to be done that might not be possible though. in either case the plan technically allows you to avoid that path afaik.

 

3 hours ago, lcewolf said:

If the PC have to become pregnant of his father, she should have the anal option avalable for everyone.

That sounds like a solid plan, especially since there is a dialogue once you become a breeder for him that is a threat to you should he find you pregnant with another person's child.

 

3 hours ago, lcewolf said:

I wish that when we serve our father the choices would become darker and darker. After our father asks us to serve him naked, the next step would be to serve him and his friends in this way. May our father order us to leave our clothes at home and steal them. When our father asks us to serve him naked he should not be satisfied when he sees us in a servant's habit.

I would like more progression to the rules for your behavior as well.

 

And actual consequences for ignoring father's wants. Like if you don't relieve tension quickly enough he just rapes you, or requires you to give something more substantial than a massage or handjob, either based on how long you made him wait or how many times you've had each kind of sex with him or some combination. Maybe different services provide different lengths of time before the next request.

[lcewolf]

1 hour ago, Tenri said:

Hopefully pchs can enable soft dependency for the pregnancy mod they end up using, depending on what all is decided to be done that might not be possible though. in either case the plan technically allows you to avoid that path afaik.

 

That sounds like a solid plan, especially since there is a dialogue once you become a breeder for him that is a threat to you should he find you pregnant with another person's child.

 

I would like more progression to the rules for your behavior as well.

 

And actual consequences for ignoring father's wants. Like if you don't relieve tension quickly enough he just rapes you, or requires you to give something more substantial than a massage or handjob, either based on how long you made him wait or how many times you've had each kind of sex with him or some combination. Maybe different services provide different lengths of time before the next request.

I really like the idea of progression too.

I guess at some point our father might point out to us that we are and already act like a slave. The only difference is that we didn't recognize it yet.  After that instead of making money for ourselves we did it for him.

 

Instead of having a choice at this point, each of it's 'friend' would force us to accept their choice. So the old man asks us for anal sex we have the choice to refuse and lose a favor of our father and loses in addition the salary or to accept his request.

 

Of course it's only an idea.

[Ratinira]

And I would like Father sleeping at night?

Now I have the feeling that he has 3 idle spots and is running around like a hamster in wheel... 

 

Also cage with dogs for me is a real mess: there are usully 2-3 NPC inside cage trying to walk through it. And it is "normal" to have sex with one dog when the other is flying on top of my character`s back because of too little space. 

 

Also I was very surprised that Gerald`s quest does not iclude other solders. When I read that the quest is about guards I thought it will include a lot of guards, but it looks very similar to the old man`s quest...?

 

If there are milk pumps there should be a suppurt (optional) for Milk Mod, so we serve as a cow to earn money that way? 

And poor cows, we dont take care of them at all...

 

 

 

 

[lcewolf]

3 hours ago, Ratinira said:

And I would like Father sleeping at night?

Now I have the feeling that he has 3 idle spots and is running around like a hamster in wheel... 

 

Also cage with dogs for me is a real mess: there are usully 2-3 NPC inside cage trying to walk through it. And it is "normal" to have sex with one dog when the other is flying on top of my character`s back because of too little space. 

 

Also I was very surprised that Gerald`s quest does not iclude other solders. When I read that the quest is about guards I thought it will include a lot of guards, but it looks very similar to the old man`s quest...?

 

If there are milk pumps there should be a suppurt (optional) for Milk Mod, so we serve as a cow to earn money that way? 

And poor cows, we dont take care of them at all...

 

 

 

 

Good Point and idea. Our PC could take care  of every guards and later maybe gangbang them

[lcewolf]

A question for the mod author. Why the PC dosen't comment when our father put some torture device in the house?

[pchs]

The next update is in the works.

I've found my way around using Beeing Female as a soft requirement, though I had to sacrificy a bit of immersion to make it work (the way how the birth will be handled). There will be negative effects (favour decrease) if PC ignores Father's requests (food, drink, sex).

[alex61821]

Sorry if this has been asked before..,.But the whiterun scripts didnt seem to run.  adrianna and whats his nut are stuck in front of the blacksmith shop just staring at each other.  The 2 kids are stuck looking at each other and so is the guy who wants his sword who is stuck looking at his wife.  Any way to get these people to do their stuck interaction?

 

[Highborn]

Just now, alex61821 said:

Sorry if this has been asked before..,.But the whiterun scripts didnt seem to run.  adrianna and whats his nut are stuck in front of the blacksmith shop just staring at each other.  The 2 kids are stuck looking at each other and so is the guy who wants his sword who is stuck looking at his wife.  Any way to get these people to do their stuck interaction?

 

You can search in the old thread for the fix people used. Basically, iirc, you should start a new game with Wartimes disabled, then select one alternate start of your like, and when you spawn in your new location, save the game and quit. Enable Wartimes and start the game again. Load that save and teleport yourself to your home with 'coc pchswartimeshome' , then read the diary and the Wartimes quest should start and all the npcs should be working as normal.

[alex61821]

1 hour ago, Highborn said:

You can search in the old thread for the fix people used. Basically, iirc, you should start a new game with Wartimes disabled, then select one alternate start of your like, and when you spawn in your new location, save the game and quit. Enable Wartimes and start the game again. Load that save and teleport yourself to your home with 'coc pchswartimeshome' , then read the diary and the Wartimes quest should start and all the npcs should be working as normal.

Thank you so much, I wasnt sure what to use as a search parameter.  Pretty sure I needed to start over anyway im guessing Immersive citizens was going to be getting in the way at some point as well.

[Tenri]

12 hours ago, alex61821 said:

Sorry if this has been asked before..,.But the whiterun scripts didnt seem to run.  adrianna and whats his nut are stuck in front of the blacksmith shop just staring at each other.  The 2 kids are stuck looking at each other and so is the guy who wants his sword who is stuck looking at his wife.  Any way to get these people to do their stuck interaction?

As Highborn said start a new game without Wartimes installed/active, do all the mod initialization stuff for all the other mods you have then install/activate Wartimes. you can even select Wartimes start without issue at this point. I don't know why, but initializing a new game with Wartimes installed does what you describe here.

 

[Ratinira]

10 hours ago, Tenri said:

As Highborn said start a new game without Wartimes installed/active, do all the mod initialization stuff for all the other mods you have then install/activate Wartimes. you can even select Wartimes start without issue at this point. I don't know why, but initializing a new game with Wartimes installed does what you describe here.

 

This should be written at the mod`s main page...?

[xyzxyz]

The houseparty is not finished yet, correct?