Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[FalloutKitten]

5 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

The houseparty is not finished yet, correct?

As far as I know. It hasn't been released yet.

Edit: On the main page there is a road map or process map that you can view what has and has yet to be implemented. It does contain spoilers though.

[xyzxyz]

What kind of Wine does the father want? I tried several from cheap to expensive but it's always wrong. And when I want to give him food the dialogue ends after "About your food".

And something went wrong with the Amputator framework. Mother has still her arms and legs but the amputee marks too. She sits in the cage in the house.

Edit: On the next try I should give him tomato soup. I bought some and cooked some but the dialogue was always that she wasn't able to make some.

And mother got stuck in the stables when she should show up in the cage.

[Highborn]

23 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

What kind of Wine does the father want? I tried several from cheap to expensive but it's always wrong. And when I want to give him food the dialogue ends after "About your food".

And something went wrong with the Amputator framework. Mother has still her arms and legs but the amputee marks too. She sits in the cage in the house.

Edit: On the next try I should give him tomato soup. I bought some and cooked some but the dialogue was always that she wasn't able to make some.

You check the barrel inside your house, you should find the wine he wants. And you need to open the MCM menu to select the hotkey to bring him food. When you are going to deliver the food, press the hotkey you chose, then your character should carry a cooking pot or some drinks, then talk with Father and the dialogue to give him the food should appear.

[xyzxyz]

Is there any use/ event for the X-crosses, poles, bondage beds etc.? Father build them but never said anything again.

[xyzxyz]

The Mother just died from hunger in her cage but the quest doesn't change. I get no new dialogues or anything. Father still says "only a few days left for your mother".

[GrimDoom]

Dude your mods are crazy good and they work flawlessly on my setup, thanks a lot.

[Highborn]

11 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

The dog cage sex didn't start. The player got naked on all fours on the carpet in the cage but the dogs did nothing and the quest was complete.

Are other creature animations working?

[xyzxyz]

Is it random when Father approaches the player for the first massage? I have a pure character with high (30) favor but he never talks about sex duty. Do I have to run around naked or something like that?

[Highborn]

11 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Is it random when Father approaches the player for the first massage? I have a pure character with high (30) favor but he never talks about sex duty. Do I have to run around naked or something like that?

Originally, you needed to ask him if he you can be of any help, then he asks what you suggest, then you could give him a massage. Maybe that still works? Apparently, there is a forcegreet mechanic that was implemented in the latest update, but I didn't test that yet.

7 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Should be. Or do I need 4Dogs+1female animations? ^^ I have no error message about missing animations in the consol.

Just saying in case you forgot to check in the MCM Menu of Sexlab to register Character animations, in case you are starting from a new game and forgot to do that.

[Tenri]

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

Is it random when Father approaches the player for the first massage? I have a pure character with high (30) favor but he never talks about sex duty. Do I have to run around naked or something like that?

well technically he only approaches you to start the sex stuff if you have 0 depravity (ie done no sexual events) most of the paths from that FG set you to -1 depravity (enables the rape FG), but once you have >= 1 depravity you should be able to see the relieve tension dialogue, unless there was another variable that gets set at the same time, I don't recall if there was.

 

Edit: aside from being raped, that one time he never forces you to do anything currently, or even specifically asking you to actually perform the massage. It just unlocks the relieve some tension, option when he is "tense".

 

while only one of the dialogue choices should unlock the rape FG only one of them actually unlocks the sexual service without first getting you raped, I edited the incorrect paths in my own copy of the mod so I need to reinstall the original esp to check the broken paths.

[bunnyguy]

43 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Should be. Or do I need 4Dogs+1female animations? ^^ I have no error message about missing animations in the consol.

Are you using the rug that is supposed to start the animations?

[xyzxyz]

How can I get Partygirl points for the daughterslut heels in  the servitude path?

[xyzxyz]

I can't get the "Mother amputated" scenario after coming back from Belethor. One rude answer changes only between the choice to serve him or get enslaved by him.
 

Do I need to choose a specific dialogue option to enable that scenario?

[pchs]

20 hours ago, FalloutGarmonija said:

As far as I know. It hasn't been released yet.

Edit: On the main page there is a road map or process map that you can view what has and has yet to be implemented. It does contain spoilers though.

I have not started to develop this part yet. I am currently focusing to finishing up the other parts.

16 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Is there any use/ event for the X-crosses, poles, bondage beds etc.? Father build them but never said anything again.

For roleplay purposes only.

16 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

The Mother just died from hunger in her cage but the quest doesn't change. I get no new dialogues or anything. Father still says "only a few days left for your mother".

Good point, I'll have a look on this part.

16 hours ago, GrimDoom said:

Dude your mods are crazy good and they work flawlessly on my setup, thanks a lot.

Thank you, positive feedback is highly appreciated!

14 hours ago, Tenri said:

well technically he only approaches you to start the sex stuff if you have 0 depravity (ie done no sexual events) most of the paths from that FG set you to -1 depravity (enables the rape FG), but once you have >= 1 depravity you should be able to see the relieve tension dialogue, unless there was another variable that gets set at the same time, I don't recall if there was.

 

Edit: aside from being raped, that one time he never forces you to do anything currently, or even specifically asking you to actually perform the massage. It just unlocks the relieve some tension, option when he is "tense".

 

while only one of the dialogue choices should unlock the rape FG only one of them actually unlocks the sexual service without first getting you raped, I edited the incorrect paths in my own copy of the mod so I need to reinstall the original esp to check the broken paths.

This is a good catch. What I will do is that I will restrict PC from doing the "lewd" version of the tasks, to prevent getting Depravity points before Father has the chance to approach PC with sex request.

2 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

I can't get the "Mother amputated" scenario after coming back from Belethor. One rude answer changes only between the choice to serve him or get enslaved by him.
 

Do I need to choose a specific dialogue option to enable that scenario?

Make sure you are using the Tweaked Amputator version from this link.

[lcewolf]

Can someone tell me the command when you want to start the quest manually?

[pchs]

11 minutes ago, lcewolf said:

Can someone tell me the command when you want to start the quest manually?

There is an option in the MCM menu that I've added in the v20200818. I did not test it though.

[alex61821]

Father is stuck on the bed.  He just stands on the bed all day.  I can still ask him stuff and he does then check my stats but i have to go into his room before anything happens.  I have tried disable enable and resurrect on him but he doesn't move from standing on the bed.

 

Edit--ok moveto player worked i should have thought of that.

[kapibar]

@pchs The mod isn't starting via statue of Mara. The MCM menu does not show. Also, trying to run the quest manually does not teleport the PC into the house, like it used to. Generally speaking the mod isn't working.

 

I had no problems whatsoever with the previous version, so something's definitely off.

[xyzxyz]

4 hours ago, pchs said:

For roleplay purposes only.

Could you add something? Like beeing locked in for a specific time, beeing whipped on the cross or sex while in a furniture. There are some animations for X-cross sex.

[alex61821]

4 hours ago, pchs said:

Edit: aside from being raped, that one time he never forces you to do anything currently, or even specifically asking you to actually perform the massage. It just unlocks the relieve some tension, option when he is "tense".

IMHO this doesn't make much sense.  He basically owns the daughter at this point and she still serves him after being raped.  Why would he not rape her again if she refuses to relieve him.  Walking around the house in fear of getting raped would be a good motivator for her to keep father from getting tense.  If she never gets raped other than that one time why would should want to relieve father.  Plus after being raped a few time i would think daughter would be more likely to perfom sex acts outside the house to make enough money to get free sooner.  I think raping daughter could either be a random daily chance or you could hook it into sexlab aroused if you wanted 90% of people have that mod anyway.  Maybe you could have a chance for her to burn the food or drop a drink on the way to server father and he could punish her for that.

 

I am really stupid with my role play, I want to be a deprived slut at the end but there needs to be some reason for that to have happened.  Without the father raping her whenever he wants i just don't see a reason currently for her to give up the sex.

 

Really enjoying the mod, just throwing in my 2 cents.

[Tenri]

8 minutes ago, alex61821 said:

IMHO this doesn't make much sense.  He basically owns the daughter at this point and she still serves him after being raped.  Why would he not rape her again if she refuses to relieve him.  Walking around the house in fear of getting raped would be a good motivator for her to keep father from getting tense.  If she never gets raped other than that one time why would should want to relieve father.  Plus after being raped a few time i would think daughter would be more likely to perfom sex acts outside the house to make enough money to get free sooner.  I think raping daughter could either be a random daily chance or you could hook it into sexlab aroused if you wanted 90% of people have that mod anyway.  Maybe you could have a chance for her to burn the food or drop a drink on the way to server father and he could punish her for that.

 

I am really stupid with my role play, I want to be a deprived slut at the end but there needs to be some reason for that to have happened.  Without the father raping her whenever he wants i just don't see a reason currently for her to give up the sex.

 

Really enjoying the mod, just throwing in my 2 cents.

I will have to try out the new version to see what is changed.

 

But for my own install of the previous version, I actually made it so that if you don't relieve tension often enough after unlocking the option, the rape FG becomes enabled again. And if you've unlocked vaginal sex then wait long enough, when asking to relieve tension he strait up demands it, and rapes you right then if you try to say no. Some other stuff too, I may try to migrate the changes over to the new version if you, pchs, or anyone else wants to take a look at them.

[Highborn]

guys, keep in mind that modding is not an easy task. Like "add this" or "add that". From what pchs said, he just recently started messing with forcegreet commands, so some stuff that you think the mod should do for yourself, maybe sometimes it's let for you to roleplay because of technical limitation. It's very hard to create scripted scenes and multiple branch dialogues wiith conditions, for example.

 

Of course, I hope pchs can improve the mod with the suggestions here, like he already did, but he is still working on stuff that he planned originally that he didn't have time to complete yet.

 

[pchs]

45 minutes ago, alex61821 said:

IMHO this doesn't make much sense.  He basically owns the daughter at this point and she still serves him after being raped.  Why would he not rape her again if she refuses to relieve him.  Walking around the house in fear of getting raped would be a good motivator for her to keep father from getting tense.  If she never gets raped other than that one time why would should want to relieve father.  Plus after being raped a few time i would think daughter would be more likely to perfom sex acts outside the house to make enough money to get free sooner.  I think raping daughter could either be a random daily chance or you could hook it into sexlab aroused if you wanted 90% of people have that mod anyway.  Maybe you could have a chance for her to burn the food or drop a drink on the way to server father and he could punish her for that.

 

I am really stupid with my role play, I want to be a deprived slut at the end but there needs to be some reason for that to have happened.  Without the father raping her whenever he wants i just don't see a reason currently for her to give up the sex.

 

Really enjoying the mod, just throwing in my 2 cents.

31 minutes ago, Tenri said:

I will have to try out the new version to see what is changed.

 

But for my own install of the previous version, I actually made it so that if you don't relieve tension often enough after unlocking the option, the rape FG becomes enabled again. And if you've unlocked vaginal sex then wait long enough, when asking to relieve tension he strait up demands it, and rapes you right then if you try to say no. Some other stuff too, I may try to migrate the changes over to the new version if you, pchs, or anyone else wants to take a look at them.

The main motivation of the PC is keeping Mother healthy/alive and raising enough funds to get her back. As the forcegreet dialogue says, Father is a pig and wants to bang her. PC can either find a justification to subdue to his demands (doing for mother, simply being submissive, whatever) or refuse, and in that case Father rapes her, by what he basically breaks her and she rather does it willingly rather than become raped again. 

 

46 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Could you add something? Like beeing locked in for a specific time, beeing whipped on the cross or sex while in a furniture. There are some animations for X-cross sex.

Sorry, I do not plan to. Too complicated.

28 minutes ago, Highborn said:

guys, keep in mind that modding is not an easy task. Like "add this" or "add that". From what pchs said, he just recently started messing with forcegreet commands, so some stuff that you think the mod should do for yourself, maybe sometimes it's let for you to roleplay because of technical limitation. It's very hard to create scripted scenes and multiple branch dialogues wiith conditions, for example.

 

Of course, I hope pchs can improve the mod with the suggestions here, like he already did, but he is still working on stuff that he planned originally that he didn't have time to complete yet.

 

Thank you for your support here in this thread!

[lcewolf]

2 hours ago, pchs said:

There is an option in the MCM menu that I've added in the v20200818. I did not test it though.

Actually when i try this new version i don't have any menu avalable anymore in mcm for this mod. New game with with this mod option in alternative life dosen't start either when i sleep in the bed. The escape of this cell scenario and every other option in alternatif start seem to work fine.

 

It's why i wanted to have to command for start it manually.

 

Thank you.

[Katana_Master]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

@pchs The mod isn't starting via statue of Mara. The MCM menu does not show. Also, trying to run the quest manually does not teleport the PC into the house, like it used to. Generally speaking the mod isn't working.

 

I had no problems whatsoever with the previous version, so something's definitely off.

Seconded.  After selecting the mod via the statue of Mara, you can go to bed, but will just wake up back in the cell again.  If I try loading a previous save with the mod active, the Wartimes option in the MCM is there, but blank, and it doesn't show up in a new save at all.