Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, leakim said:

Ugh. Sounds infuriating.

Minor irritation. It's not something extreme, really. But irritating.

 

1 hour ago, leakim said:

* Remove half the mods in the setup
 

With my setup - fat chance that I'll be able to do it. It's what I call "a functioning mess".

[safado]

5 hours ago, kapibar said:

Gentlepeople, I was wondering if anybody can help me. The issue at hand is somewhat connected to WT, high heels more specifically. With SL's "Clear Heel's Height" setting the PC "sinks" into the ground a little, which is quite infuriating. Solution for this would be to move the whole scene up. However, it is quite a daunting task doing it manually actor by actor, and with 700+ animation it is next to impossible. Does anyone know a trick or a solution to this problem? Or maybe a proper SL setting that would take care of the problem...?

 

I fail to see any "Gentlepeople" in this forum.  People are talking about slavery and rape. ?

 

It is not a WT issue. Multiple "high heel" re-aling will overcompensate during sexlab PC scenes.  Each mod named the feature differently.  Try disabling the feature in all your mods.  If that remove the alignment sink issue, then enable only one and test.  Only have one mod modifying "heel alignment" during sexlab scenes at a time.

 

 

Edited May 17, 2022 by safado

[audhol]

Stage 4 mk2 should there be a phrase behind the pictures like "I make Daddy proud" or something like that? Also you guys that want a different bdsm tattoo set maybee send me some pics you like on P.M. simply so I've got them all in one place, @kapibar I know you sent one before could you resend please?

Spoiler

 

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, safado said:

I fail to see any "Gentlepeople" in this forum.  People are talking about slavery and rape. ?

In my experience dogs that bark the loudest rarely bite .

 

1 hour ago, safado said:

t is not a WT issue. Multiple "high heel" re-aling will overcompensate during sexlab PC scenes.  Each mod named the feature differently.  Try disabling the feature in all your mods.  If that remove the alignment sink issue, then enable only one and test.  Only have one mod modifying "heel alignment" during sexlab scenes at a time.I

I know it's not WT, but it does make the problem more noticeable - first with actual heels, then through YPS feet deformation that functions as heels. I'm quite certain the issue is created by SexLab itself that removes tiny bit more height than it should. Other than that I don't recall any of my mods having a function related to height adjustment.

[kapibar]

18 minutes ago, audhol said:

Stage 4 mk2

I see you're a man of culture.

 

18 minutes ago, audhol said:

 @kapibar I know you sent one before could you resend please?

Sure, but it was just a draft sketch I did on the spot, literally 5 minutes of work.

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

There are few BDSM-themed slavetats in AIO -> Deviantpack. They're pretty nice.
 

 

 

Edited May 17, 2022 by kapibar

[TheOpu123]

On 5/15/2022 at 8:21 AM, Balgin said:

I should have probably reported this ages ago. I was getting this as well as the cages at the stables being missing. It turns out I had to update Zaz animations and then everything worked just fine. Cages appeared, no crash when picking up party supplies (but the mother's amputation stopped happening and she'd be returned intact instead of with missing limbs).

 

I didn't report it because I presumed it was a mod conflict and spent a few days (or a few weeks) trying to work out why the cages were not appearing because I suspected it was related. Once I found out that it was Zaz animations being 3 or 4 years out of date that somehow fixed the party supplies crash as well. At that point I didn't report it because it was human error at my end (not knowing there was a more up to date version of Zaz). But yes. I have experienced this issue before (or one with the exact same symptoms).

 

On 5/15/2022 at 8:22 AM, Monoman1 said:

Yes actually the dance pole is enabled with the guests so it might be zaz < 8 maybe too

 

That was it, so to fix the party supplies from Sabjorn crash problem I just had to download the right version, mine was outdated, of zaz which is Zaz Animation Pack V 8.0 . Worked like a charm. Thanks for the help! Also 8+ didn't work only 8 did but that might of been my fault.

[audhol]

10 minutes ago, kapibar said:

There are few BDSM-themed slavetats in AIO -> Deviantpack. They're pretty nice.

whats the permisions on those packs? Can double M one use them as an alternative to the slut pack?

[kapibar]

14 minutes ago, audhol said:

whats the permisions on those packs? Can double M one use them as an alternative to the slut pack?

No clue honestly. The author of the pack removed his original work, however being asked about these graphics he directed user to AIO pack.
 

 

[audhol]

Stages 1 to 4 for both girl and slut. Stage 1 is common to both. C prefix to texture is combined so CDaddyStage4Slut is stages 1 to 4 combined. S prefix means its just the one stage so SDaddyStage4Slut is only the stage 4 tat.

 

 

Daddy.7z

[Monoman1]

Early dance spectator test. You'll er... have to pretend the PC is dancing on her pole.

 

 

<snipped to save space. See next video>

Edited May 18, 2022 by Monoman1

[leakim]

Woah, really cool!

 

Small question for you Monoman1: How are you approaching this next update given the seemingly massive scale of things you have set in motion: Can we expect one big-bang update or do you intend to release these features you are showcasing/talking about incrementally?

 

Why are you looking at me like that? It's not like I am impatient, spoiled kid! ^^

[Polonium]

38 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Early dance spectator test. You'll er... have to pretend the PC is dancing on her pole.

I'd just like to say that the voices in this clip sound great!

[GeorgiaCav]

This is the part that I keep thinking about. Just going off and finding Mother in a random hold isn't how I RP my characters; there's going to have to be some reason that she comes to doubt Father's word about Mother's whereabouts, AND risk traveling away from home, through dangers she's woefully unprepared to face, to find her. Even if she realizes that Father's lying, Skyrim is a big place: where does she start looking?

 

One way could be if she found something indicating where Mother really is. A letter from Father to Belethor, or maybe to Uncle Benji. In either case we can assume that Father wouldn't be careless enough to let such documents fall into the wrong hands, so they could be magically cursed to self-destruct if read by anyone but their intended recipients. No simply handing the letter over to Caius.

 

But she sees enough in the letter to know that Mother is being held by (NPC_Name) in (HOLD) as a slave or simply as a prisoner. Whoever's holding her has his own designs on the farm. When the PC shows up at his door, he offers to free mother and kill father in exchange for the farm. The PC and Mother would be expected to live there and work it as sharecroppers. (At this point, Mother could reveal the existence of Brother and Sister, who she'd thought were dead; she's been doing some digging of her own where she's been held, and found out that they're still alive. Mother and PC are going to need their help to work the farm.)

 

So: 

 

I. PC goes to Benji. Finds letter there from Father: "Stop asking so many questions. Don't worry about her. She won't be harmed, and I'll make sure you're well taken care of for your silence. If you want to see her, so you know I'm telling you the truth, you'll need to talk to (NPC)." PC and maybe Benji could worry that naming Mother's new owner is setting up an ambush. Possible outcomes of going to Benji:

1. Benji sends the PC back to Father unaware that PC has nicked the letter. PC follows up on her own when she can, if she wants to. This outcome could depend on whether PC reveals to Benji that she's seen the letter (and it's self-destructed).
2. Benji sends PC back to Father: "I don't want any trouble from that psychopath. Just serve him and leave me out of it."
3. Benji sends PC home with instructions to go find out for herself. "You wanna go find my sister, go ahead. I never had any use for the bitch, and being some rich asshole's fucktoy is all she ever wanted from life anyway." (3 and 4 are similar enough to be combined. This outcome happens based on dialogue choices. "Fine. I don't need your help."/ "Uncle Benji, please! You're the only one that can help me!")
4. He might agree to go with PC on the trip to find Mother. "You know what? She's my sister. And you, you're... Ah, fuck it, let's go get her back."

Alternately, PC might find out about it from Belethor. "Cyrodil? Is that where he told you he sent her? Ha ha ha! I always knew he had a sense of humor!" Or Belethor might have a non-self destructing copy of Father's plan or a letter giving a piece of it.

 

II. PC, or PC + Benji, go to find Mother. They learn that the NPC holding her is willing to make Father dead for the right price. Could be the farm, could be money, could be long-term access to the PC's body. Again, if the NPC expects to gain ownership of the farm, he'd want the family to sharecrop it, and this would allow Brother and Sister to be introduced. 

 

Just some thoughts. I'm mainly concerned that the PC won't be expected to just go randomly adventuring across Tamriel to find Mother. I would like to see a logical reason why she thinks taking the risk is worthwhile. The "I found a letter" trope is certainly overused in Skyrim, but it could also be an overheard conversation or some random lines of dialogue from Father, Belethor, or some of the party guests that clues the PC in on Mother's true condition and location.

[Clea Strange]

why would you want mother back if you the player character is submissive enough to father that their is no reason to even want to or worry about healing mom. Maybe you are so submissive to father that their is a option to tell father to stop healing mother and forget her which ends her life if you stop the healing right?

 

Edit: something that I think is vague is this, is father your characters step father or your characters bio father? 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Hiderius

[GeorgiaCav]

1 hour ago, Hiderius said:

why would you want mother back if you the player character is submissive enough to father that their is no reason to even want to or worry about healing mom. Maybe you are so submissive to father that their is a option to tell father to stop healing mother and forget her which ends her life if you stop the healing right?

 

Edit: something that I think is vague is this, is father your characters step father or your characters bio father? 

 

1, The  whole game is for RP. Don't want to save Mother? You can already let her die and ask Father to enslave you.

 

2. Step-father, per the PC's diary.

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, GeorgiaCav said:

2. Step-father, per the PC's diary.

MM changed it, currently he's just father.

[Mushikisai]

9 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Early dance spectator test. You'll er... have to pretend the PC is dancing on her pole.

 

 

Can't wait for next update!

[Monoman1]

Any thoughts on a vanilla outfit that would make a good stripper outfit starting off? Can't really be barkeep or tavern clothes as they're already used. 

Or a mod outfit that's CBBE/UUNP/etc with good bodyslide that I'd have a decent chance of getting permissions for? Preferably one with multiple parts even. 

 

On 5/16/2022 at 7:52 PM, leakim said:

You mentioned that FM3 is "preferred" over BeeingFemale at some point I think. Could you expand on why?

 

IIRC I found it easier to pull better information from FM. 

+ I found on long games that BF was creating a lot of script instances when loading into an area. Though I doubt FM is innocent in that area either. 

9 hours ago, leakim said:

Small question for you Monoman1: How are you approaching this next update given the seemingly massive scale of things you have set in motion: Can we expect one big-bang update or do you intend to release these features you are showcasing/talking about incrementally?

If I can get to the point where I would be confident that the next update wouldn't require a new game then I could consider releasing something. Ideally with large parts of the beginnings/endings done and dusted. 

 

11 hours ago, audhol said:

Stages 1 to 4 for both girl and slut. Stage 1 is common to both. C prefix to texture is combined so CDaddyStage4Slut is stages 1 to 4 combined. S prefix means its just the one stage so SDaddyStage4Slut is only the stage 4 tat.

Thanks Who do people think would make a good Npc to get tats from? I was thinking maybe the face girl in riften sewers? Kinda dark down there to be doing tats... or changing your face I suppose...

Would prefer a non mod dependent Npc.

 

8 hours ago, GeorgiaCav said:

This is the part that I keep thinking about. Just going off and finding Mother in a random hold isn't how I RP my characters;

Finding Mother isn't meant to be easy. In the current setup you can go from losing mother to finding mother in about 2 mins flat. Which in turn (if you confront father) means you'll go from innocent daughter to full blown breeding slut in about 10mins? from the start of the mod. And it's even... weirder if you choose NOT to confront father and continue being his progressive slut now that you know where mother is...

 

Skyrim's not exactly massive and if you know where mother is you can get there with 1 day of free time. 9 holds. 8 when we exclude whiterun. The current proposal is also to reduce the cost to return her if you find her - buy her out of slavery instead of 'healing' her, so the benefit is fairly substantial. People are too fond of their map markers and gps pointers these days. If some letter were to mention 'sold to some fool jarl in the north/west/east I wouldn't mind so much. 

West - solitude/markarth/morthal/falkreath

North - solitude/morthal/dawnstart/winterhold

east - windhelm/riften/winterhold/(-1 you lucked out)

 

Or perhaps I should just try to place her randomly as a bandit's slave in a random cave somewhere...

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Monoman1

[audhol]

29 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Who do people think would make a good Npc to get tats from?

Just an idea, what if Daddy makes them give each other the tattoo's whilst he watches, could even be part of the party so his pals get to watch them do it too.

 

P.S. I think you gonna like stage 5?

Edited May 18, 2022 by audhol

[Monoman1]

Just now, audhol said:

P.S. I think you gonna like stage 5

Oh actually... Eh can I get 'girl' tats as separate tats from you rather than one combined tat. Would be best to keep the same convention for both sets. 

Tried doing it myself but for some reason it is doubling the size (MB) of them...

[Monoman1]

17 minutes ago, audhol said:

Just an idea, what if Daddy makes them give each other the tattoo's whilst he watches, could even be part of the party so his pals get to watch them do it too.

Hmm. Is that  a good idea? 

If the PC is upset with her tat then maybe she'd do something as revenge to her sister next time...

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Monoman1

[audhol]

25 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Oh actually... Eh can I get 'girl' tats as separate tats from you rather than one combined tat.

Yep no probs, will combine that with stage 5 update.

15 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

If the PC is upset with her tat then maybe she'd do something as revenge to her sister next time...

Maybee, but if daddys watching she might not dare, might be kinda humiliating knowing she has to give nice tats to her sister in the knowledge that sis is gonna give her a slutty one?

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Any thoughts on a vanilla outfit that would make a good stripper outfit starting off? Can't really be barkeep or tavern clothes as they're already used. 

Or a mod outfit that's CBBE/UUNP/etc with good bodyslide that I'd have a decent chance of getting permissions for? Preferably one with multiple parts even.

Cursed Loot has a few slooty outfits (usually its "college ...").

 

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

If I can get to the point where I would be confident that the next update wouldn't require a new game then I could consider releasing something. Ideally with large parts of the beginnings/endings done and dusted.

 

YES!

 

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Who do people think would make a good Npc to get tats from?

One of the YPS NPCs would be a good choice I think. I'm not sure if the vanilla NPCs should be involved. But if you want someone vanilla - Sybille Stentor maybe? Or Farengar. The dude is shady as fuck.

 

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Or perhaps I should just try to place her randomly as a bandit's slave in a random cave somewhere...

OK, but if the player decides to tell father to go fuck himself and go on a quest to find mother, there's still her health limit to be considered. 3 days is not enough time to level up and find her.

[Mushikisai]

47 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Any thoughts on a vanilla outfit that would make a good stripper outfit starting off? Can't really be barkeep or tavern clothes as they're already used. 

Or a mod outfit that's CBBE/UUNP/etc with good bodyslide that I'd have a decent chance of getting permissions for? Preferably one with multiple parts even. 

Maybe beggar clothes or fineclothes02partyoutfit or just set it customizable as well?

[audhol]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Or a mod outfit that's CBBE/UUNP/etc with good bodyslide that I'd have a decent chance of getting permissions for?

You can use my alicia mod if it suits, The textures are a bit modern maybe but I could always do some more lore friendly ones if you'd like.

 

Spoiler

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64596