Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[audhol]

32 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Or the other half wrapped around her hip to the other side...

the issue with what you propose is that is right across the join in the mesh so you would have to use a program that alows you to paint straight onto the 3d model.

 

[Monoman1]

7 minutes ago, audhol said:

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That looks quite good ? 

6 minutes ago, audhol said:

the issue with what you propose is that is right across the join in the mesh so you would have to use a program that alows you to paint straight onto the 3d model.

 

Yea figured thered be something alright. 

[kinkeag]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Flavor for Sister Becomes Dominant

For this, throwing these out there:

 

- she takes ya bed (you have to sleep on the floor somewhere) 

- she takes credit for jobs you complete like firewood and what not, decreasing favour (configurable maybe, some people might find it anoying)

- she actively stops you from doing jobs, like tripping you with a tray of food,making you have to do it again (again, probs best to make it configurable)

- like what you did when pc takes father's sword, maybe if you take something of hers and she gets pissed, fucks you, or runs to father and he fucks you

- binds your hands preventing you from doing jobs until father gets pissed (with this i think to make it more intresting maybe she binds you, 30 seconds passes and father has a forcegreat where he's like "why aren't you working" and you're like "my hands tho" and he's like "not an excuse" and he makes you drink cum or somthing or whatever)

 

Just some stuff n' things, love the mod, great work! 

 

 

[kinkeag]

Also, just a general question off topic a bit, but why do we mod skyrim like this? Like, going through the ball ache of installing 30 mods to get one to work, only to realise that, no we actually needed 31 mods to make this work and number 29 and 4 are incompatible with eachother in some way.

Just for a wank or a finger, i've been doing it for years on and off and i still don't know why i like doing it, im just really curious to here everyone's reasons, no pressure ?

[kapibar]

Ah. This is as good time as any, but @Monoman1, about slave tats... There's an ongoing problem with it - the mod self-adds gloss option. It's usually not very problematic, but it becomes an issue with YPS. Say you want non-glossy makeup - it won't last. Sooner or later the gloss will be added. If you're planning to add the tattoo via ST, it would be worth addressing this issue. I know for a fact that you found a workaround with YPS stockings, they utilize ST, but are not glossed over time.

[audhol]

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

That looks quite good ? 

 

I figured Daddy might do a slightly different design for daughter than for his favourite Lillith

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DaddyCumslut.dds DaddyGirl.dds

[Monoman1]

 

51 minutes ago, kapibar said:

Ah. This is as good time as any, but @Monoman1, about slave tats... There's an ongoing problem with it - the mod self-adds gloss option. It's usually not very problematic, but it becomes an issue with YPS. Say you want non-glossy makeup - it won't last. Sooner or later the gloss will be added. If you're planning to add the tattoo via ST, it would be worth addressing this issue. I know for a fact that you found a workaround with YPS stockings, they utilize ST, but are not glossed over time.

I think that's my own fuck up. Most overlays in my mods don't use slavetats. The apply overlays directly via racemenu. Safado pointed out a problem with what I was doing and I fixed it for stockings but I've yet to find the time to apply it to other mods. 

55 minutes ago, kinkeag said:

Also, just a general question off topic a bit, but why do we mod skyrim like this? Like, going through the ball ache of installing 30 mods to get one to work, only to realise that, no we actually needed 31 mods to make this work and number 29 and 4 are incompatible with eachother in some way.

Just for a wank or a finger, i've been doing it for years on and off and i still don't know why i like doing it, im just really curious to here everyone's reasons, no pressure ?

I just like a little sexy struggle in my game. Nothing to do with wanking really...

 

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, kinkeag said:

Also, just a general question off topic a bit, but why do we mod skyrim like this? Like, going through the ball ache of installing 30 mods to get one to work, only to realise that, no we actually needed 31 mods to make this work and number 29 and 4 are incompatible with eachother in some way.

Just for a wank or a finger, i've been doing it for years on and off and i still don't know why i like doing it, im just really curious to here everyone's reasons, no pressure ?

Well, it is an intresting question. For me it's a mental exercise. Sex mods are offering a kind of gameplay and expierience unavailable in vanilla games. I also do not dislike the sight of pretty girls. The old lady also doesn't mind my hobby. Actually she likes it more than my usual hobby, which is not cheap. It's just a creative way to pass the time that is easy on the eye.

 

  

23 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I think that's my own fuck up. Most overlays in my mods don't use slavetats. The apply overlays directly via racemenu. Safado pointed out a problem with what I was doing and I fixed it for stockings but I've yet to find the time to apply it to other mods.

 

That's an unexpected confession. I always taught it's a problem with ST itself.

Edited May 14, 2022 by kapibar

[Monoman1]

57 minutes ago, kapibar said:

That's an unexpected confession. I always taught it's a problem with ST itself

Well it depends on exactly what we're talking about. 

 

I'd have to look into it but YPS tweak should be OK. I think all overlays there are run through the new code should they shouldn't be glowing. 

 

SLS, SCO, STA all need this fix. Though glow actually suits SLS magic collar/curses anyway. 

 

Rapetats tweak and any of my mods that apply rapetats still go through ST. 

[kapibar]

9 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Well it depends on exactly what we're talking about.

OK, let me explain. As you know, there's a gloss option in ST. Im makes the tattoo - well - glossy. It can be checked by the user, or left unchecked. The thing is, after some time this option checks itself and suddenly all tattoos become glossy. With ENB it doesn't exactly look good - the black looks silver-ish. And while "normal" tattoos can be edited (manually unchecked), the ones from YPS are external and beyond user's control. So instead of black eyeshadow you can end up with silver-ish glossy one.

[Monoman1]

Little progress update:

Redid the plug system and menu basically from scratch. Plugs are 'stuck' for 1 game hour when inserted. They can't be dropped or moved to a container when stuck. Inserting a devious plug will remove them regardless (no fighting). Added a comical popping sound when removed. Removing them reverts them to the item they were originally - mead anal plug -> back to normal mead. I guess if you knew your mead was about to get confiscated you could shove it up your bum...

 

Now that plugs are done (I hope) I can return to retrofitting the party.

 

Asking for permission to sleep is now a thing. Failing to ask = favour loss. When you hit 20 submission father will start "dressing" you for nighttime. Dress increases every 20 sub - armbinder, gag, hobble dress, blindfold. Must lock yourself in if you're in your jail bedroom. You can call father from the gate in the morning to release you and remove your "nightdress". Father will remember any devices you had on and put them back on you. 

[Monoman1]

Just now, kapibar said:

OK, let me explain. As you know, there's a gloss option in ST. Im makes the tattoo - well - glossy. It can be checked by the user, or left unchecked. The thing is, after some time this option checks itself and suddenly all tattoos become glossy. With ENB it doesn't exactly look good - the black looks silver-ish. And while "normal" tattoos can be edited (manually unchecked), the ones from YPS are external and beyond user's control. So instead of black eyeshadow you can end up with silver-ish glossy one.

Hmm does it make all overlays glossy or just the ones it controls? Kind of seems like it would be the latter (external afterall)

[AlphaAndOmega]

I still hope that the level of dominance is somehow within the player's control. The mod is dark and the appearance of the sister may be regarded as a light at the end of the tunnel. The grudge (for bringing her here) is definately understood, but the PC is in dire need of a helping hand. Maybe if the PC is capable properly apologising, the sister's will to help would be genuine. Without it, it's going to be sister's best opportunity to make the PC pay for her actions.

It's groundwork essentially. Make sure that the person you are trying to make an escape with is trustworthy and is not going to betray you the moment you get out of the house. Making it this fork . Don't do x -> you are going to be showered with dept and follower deals. Do x, go separate ways on good terms, being bonded by the experience that you both went through.

[kapibar]

30 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Hmm does it make all overlays glossy or just the ones it controls? Kind of seems like it would be the latter (external afterall)

That's the thing - every overlay added by ST becomes glossy.

[Alis_999]

8 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

8 hours ago, Balgin said:

I honestly think you could remove uncle Benji and his content without it affecting the mod very much. As it currently stands the mother tells you to run off to him and either you do or you don't but it's a mod dead end either way. It just feels underdeveloped and if you're wanting to remove the mother from Dragonsreach anyway then you could probably remove all the uncle Benji plotline as well without too much difficulty.

Yes. Am considering this tbh. 

Hm... just a few dialogues and change that route as main, Benji uses PC for one-two days and returns her to father

Edited May 14, 2022 by Alis_999

[coffeeink]

Some ideas for Dominant Sister

 

For me i read it like she is no the "highest slave" and is esp. mad of you but not that mad to kill you if she kills father.

 

Some ideas

 

1. Due the fact that the Sister is now the leading woman the PC is ordered down on a same level as a potential PaH Slave:

This could result into:

• You still get blamed for all mistakes
• You can not control the tasks of the Slaves anymore. Depening on Sisters mood you have to do more (remove slave from task) ir reassigns them. Maybe you wanted to outsource the work with Brutus. ... your task now again.

2. Sister wants also to get fullfill her needs (also make her something to eat, etc.) (just more tasks), bring her clothing, make up etc.

 

3. mean to you -> blames you for mistakes that didn't happened, or manipulates it. (adding so salt to the meal etc)

 

4. you are an anger relief => Whipping, beating for no reason. maybe forced sex, adding a DD etc.  taking Gold ...

 

5. in general dominant talking to you, degrading words ...

 

6. Maybe copy some Training. As you train the PaH Slaves you need also be trained. => put in a furniture for a time, Adress her correctly (just give some addres soption in text and if the wrong one is selected get trained. Some Sex Trainings (don't know how far we are already at this point weith the Training), Posing for her, etc.

 

 

[audhol]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Well it looks not bad, what do you think? 

 

What if the tats were progressive, like both sisters get the half heart to start with then father adds daddys girl and daddys cumslut as lillith slowly starts to controll the p.c. They could get matching but different tats that expand on the previous one as milestones are reached in the mod progress. Lilliths ones become flowers, hearts, thorns etc and daughters ones become cocks and whore marks whilst they still both follow the same genaeral form?

[Monoman1]

23 minutes ago, audhol said:

Well it looks not bad, what do you think? 

It looks good but there's... something off about it. 

Maybe try a tramp stamp as was suggested earlier? Maybe also a full heart instead? 

 

The progression idea sounds good to me ?

[Desvati]

29 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

It looks good but there's... something off about it. 

Maybe try a tramp stamp as was suggested earlier? Maybe also a full heart instead? 

 

The progression idea sounds good to me ?

I have a PSD of the tat already set out but I have hardcore forgotten how to actually make the alpha etc. so if someone wants to take it from there...

[audhol]

29 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Maybe try a tramp stamp as was suggested earlier? Maybe also a full heart instead? 

Spoiler

 

[kapibar]

@audhol these are some mighty fine textures you have there, my man. What's the mod and what ENB do you use?

[audhol]

13 minutes ago, kapibar said:

these are some mighty fine textures you have there, my man. What's the mod and what ENB do you use?

The skin is BiniBini for 3BA  from nexus, don't know the rules for links so I wont post one. I use all the lux lighting mods together with EVaLS and then AMON enb on the latest 0.475 series. Textures are mostly the pfuscher parallax ones. Look at my clothing mods on nexus (lol cheap plug ) to see how my forests look because I find the landscapes more impressive than the buildings, Havent tried the new grass collisions out yet though.

Edited May 14, 2022 by audhol

[audhol]

DaddyTrampCumslut.dds DaddyTrampGirl.dds

[lorddenorstrus]

Damn, y'all put some work in today.  The tattoos look nice, and I read a ton of great ideas.  Gettin me excited to test the next update..

[rstranger87653]

As to real world benefits to keeping mother alive: 1) As other suggested should keep help perform tasks. 2) It seems it would fit the narrative that keeping her alive would give a way out of servitude that keeps PC from getting bounty/being hunted for father's death. Based on how disturbed she is that PC is doing work for father and interacting with Belethor, it makes sense that she would try to free her daughter by and means necessary. Maybe when PC (and sister) are out on an errand, she burns the house down, killing herself and father. If you are using the SLS house cost system, having any free player housing breaks that system (as do hearthfire homes, but that's a separate problem). Don't have any idea how hard it would be to change the player house to a burned down model, but doesn't the western watchtower do something like that after the dragon attack?

 

As to consequences if mother is dead: 1) only way to get out of servitude is to directly kill father or arrange death of father through Dark Brotherhood and get extreme bounties everywhere. If you can't buy licenses until bounties are cleared, life is already gonna be pretty tough trying to clear up all those bounties and keep gear from being taken. 2) Anything that keeps player locked into servitude forever seems too restrictive to me. After all, this is supposed to be an alternate start mod, right? Not a dead end. Personally don't want any ending that would lock me into the content of the mod. How about the benefit of keeping mother alive is that she will eventually take out father for you, but not until you've given him an heir and some other factors/ random passage of time afterward. Just my thoughts. I like how some things in the mod are not fully explained - leaves it open for player interpretation and role play.