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Monoman1

Monoman1

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33 minutes ago, theopu23 said:

Game crashes constantly when getting party supplies from Sabjorn . Right after his dialogue ends likely when spawning the guests .

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Cant see it being anything to do with WT. You're the first person to report this. 

Try enabling them one by one manually. 

Balgin

Balgin

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6 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Cant see it being anything to do with WT. You're the first person to report this. 

Try enabling them one by one manually. 

I should have probably reported this ages ago. I was getting this as well as the cages at the stables being missing. It turns out I had to update Zaz animations and then everything worked just fine. Cages appeared, no crash when picking up party supplies (but the mother's amputation stopped happening and she'd be returned intact instead of with missing limbs).

 

I didn't report it because I presumed it was a mod conflict and spent a few days (or a few weeks) trying to work out why the cages were not appearing because I suspected it was related. Once I found out that it was Zaz animations being 3 or 4 years out of date that somehow fixed the party supplies crash as well. At that point I didn't report it because it was human error at my end (not knowing there was a more up to date version of Zaz). But yes. I have experienced this issue before (or one with the exact same symptoms).

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adle

adle

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Short question, 

already asked on SE topic, but nobody answers me there. (playing WT on SE)

How can i start brutus quest line and cum container? 

cant see any option or quest on this. Maybe i missing a mod therefore?

 

Sincerely  

Monoman1

Monoman1

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Just now, Balgin said:

I should have probably reported this ages ago. I was getting this as well as the cages at the stables being missing. It turns out I had to update Zaz animations and then everything worked just fine. Cages appeared, no crash when picking up party supplies (but the mother's amputation stopped happening and she'd be returned intact instead of with missing limbs).

Yes actually the dance pole is enabled with the guests so it might be zaz < 8 maybe too

Balgin

Balgin

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2 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Yes actually the dance pole is enabled with the guests so it might be zaz < 8 maybe too

 I added the second paragraph after posting.

 

As for the tattoo... If it's going to be there for the rest of the character's life then I'd rather it was something enjoyable to look at than something obnoxious. Something crude might look funny/fun for a little while but it's worth considering if you're going to get sick of it after a while as you're going to be stuck with it for much longer. Obviously I can replace it and, if it's going to have MCM options as well then that's an even bigger MCM.....

 

As an alternate start mod, it would be nice if, at some point, the mod ended and the player got to start playing the normal game (as heavily modded as that might be). If the player has to go through an entire pregnancy before even being able to find the sister........ that's a very long start. Almost playing an entirely separate game. I can't remember if the slave wife occurs after the birth or if it only requires the daughter to be pregnant. In your flow chart can the sister be discovered during pregnancy or does it absolutely need to wait 'til after?

 

Also, on the thought of including positive effects for paying for mother's treatment, how about a slowdown/cooldown on some of Father's demand? If you're paying him more he'll pester you less (allowing you some extra time to do things for yourself instead of constant cooking & cleaning getting in the way of other duties).

 

 

coffeeink

coffeeink

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tbh. WT is not a start mod anymore for me. It has so much nice Content.

 

I even make an own profile for it and balance all the mods for WT (remove other mods i don't need, add some specific ones etc.).

Because i really like this simple "farm setting" So i add some mods around it for Animations, Whiterun Area Modifications, etc.

 

And as we all know. Removing mods from an existing save is never a good idea ?

 

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Balgin

Balgin

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My reaction might have to do with the fact that I like to set realistic pregnancy durations in Beeing Female. None of this pop out the kid in a month crap.

audhol

audhol

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I screwed up the cock-o-nut tree so I gotta redo it and everything else and stick to 4k, Trying to downscale just looks crap so judging by the reactions shall I try to make at least the tree a bit smaller?

 

Also got another option for stage 3

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Monoman1

Monoman1

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2 hours ago, adle said:

Short question, 

already asked on SE topic, but nobody answers me there. (playing WT on SE)

How can i start brutus quest line and cum container? 

cant see any option or quest on this. Maybe i missing a mod therefore?

 

Sincerely  

Using tweak 10+ I presume?

Brutus is random. Must have 15 tasks (serving food etc not the side tasks) completed. Must have given father a handjob. Must be between reasonable hours. Then is triggered on the regualr FG. 

 

Cumtainers are fired after the first time you swallow his cum. If you keep spitting it out he will eventually force you. Obviously SLS must be installed. 

 

2 hours ago, Balgin said:

I added the second paragraph after posting.

I should probably add a version check at this stage but it is in the 'known issues' section of the download. 

2 hours ago, Balgin said:

As an alternate start mod, it would be nice if, at some point, the mod ended and the player got to start playing the normal game

That is the intention. 

2 hours ago, Balgin said:

In your flow chart can the sister be discovered during pregnancy or does it absolutely need to wait 'til after?

Well I suppose it doesn't necessarily need to happen then. 

It just needs to happen at a point at which father could be happy that you're sufficiently broken down and he can start on his next project (your sister)

1 hour ago, Balgin said:

My reaction might have to do with the fact that I like to set realistic pregnancy durations in Beeing Female. None of this pop out the kid in a month crap.

I usually crank it up too. 

But not usually longer than a month. 

2 hours ago, Balgin said:

If it's going to be there for the rest of the character's life then I'd rather it was something enjoyable to look at than something obnoxious.

Well maybe you can get it removed. For a price ofc. 

 

1 hour ago, audhol said:

Also got another option for stage 3

Afraid I can't quite make out the 1st one. Is it a girl wearing a flowery hat? Sorry :D might just be the angle.
2nd one looks good ?

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kapibar

kapibar

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1 hour ago, audhol said:

Also got another option for stage 3

Def no a fan of the BBC aesthetics, so I'd like to submit an alternative.

 

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audhol

audhol

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1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Afraid I can't quite make out the 1st one. Is it a girl wearing a flowery hat? Sorry :D might just be the angle.

It is exactly a girl wearing a flowery hat, I found the image for the daughter one then looked for a vanilla image that kinda matched the shape and size. As I'm redoing it I'm making lillith and daughter a mirror pair. What if you simply made an mcm option for daughter to use the same tats as lillith for those that find the cumslut ones to be uneasthetique?

 

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

Def no a fan of the BBC aesthetics, so I'd like to submit an alternative.

Well I think its only black because of the shading but I agree its big! If monoman prefers your idea I'll use your image but I'm not sure it fits with the general idea of father wanting daughter to be a mindless cock craving slut. I'm trying to base the tattoo's on what I think monoman and pchs had in mind for the P.C. and the impression I get from playing the mod, I'm trying not to push what I think the tats should be which is why (as annoying as it might be for mono) I'm showing each stage of progress and asking for feedback. At the end of the day we have to remember that as users we can make suggestions to those that spend their time modding but the final decision rests with them. That was my main reasoning for stopping publishing on LL because I found that there where simply too many people that felt self entitled  to demand that things should be done exactly as they wanted. None of that is in anyway directed at you kapibar as you have simply made suggestions and demanded nothing I'm just trying to explain my point of view,

kapibar

kapibar

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20 minutes ago, audhol said:

I'm trying to base the tattoo's on what I think monoman and pchs had in mind for the P.C. and the impression I get from playing the mod

And you're doing a fine job. I'm just presenting a counterpoint. Someone should take the role of the advocate for the devil ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

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47 minutes ago, audhol said:

At the end of the day we have to remember that as users we can make suggestions to those that spend their time modding but the final decision rests with them. That was my main reasoning for stopping publishing on LL because I found that there where simply too many people that felt self entitled  to demand that things should be done exactly as they wanted. None of that is in anyway directed at you kapibar as you have simply made suggestions and demanded nothing I'm just trying to explain my point of view,

 

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, especially so, since I think you made some awesome assets for Toys, if I am not mistaken.

W.r.t. the topic at hand, I appreciate that you provide mm1 with options, so he does not have to do everything on his own, but

I also have to agree fundamentally with kapibar: Options are good (until the MCM overwhelms you).

For instance, I found the fact that Milkmod milks you on a orgasm extremely frustrating (in a bad way)

when playing Wartimes tweak, especially after finding out that there used to be an option to disable this feature.

 

But in this case, I think the goal could be achieved rather easily by

replacing the images with an override, so I don't think that is a real concern here.

It would, however, be nice to have several alternatives provided by this thread.

This can easily be achieved by providing (a) separate mod(s) that provide replacement images (no esp).

If mm1 does not object these can be even published and maintained by other people.

So, maybe you could just bundle your alternatives that didn't make it, into such a thing, or have

someone else do it (assuming your consent).

 

47 minutes ago, audhol said:

I'm trying to base the tattoo's on what I think monoman and pchs had in mind for the P.C. and the impression I get from playing the mod (...)

 

I am sometimes really confused, what the intention is for some mods here on LL. This one is different though, but only because mm1 actually explains where he want to go rather frequently, but still you have to read a lot, on how things are supposed to interact. So an author's recommendation on how it's meant to be played would be appreciated as a starting point, you can stray away from at you own peril.

 

@Monoman1

So I just ask one question that really interests me: What is the timescale you play on?

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21 minutes ago, kapibar said:

And you're doing a fine job. I'm just presenting a counterpoint. Someone should take the role of the advocate for the devil ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

I think that is valuable. In this spirit, I just want to mention that I like the sister idea, but not as a futa.

But from what I read, it is will be optional so I didn't bother to write that.

 

audhol

audhol

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55 minutes ago, (\x.x x) (\x.x x) said:

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, especially so, since I think you made some awesome assets for Toys

Yep and it wasn't one bad experience, just a general mindset that I still see in a lot of threads, Anyways....

 

So...............ummm...............well.............. Y'all gonna hate it but here is "my" idea for stage 3 (sorry kapi)

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jc321

jc321

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@audhol I thought an approach where the sister gets nicely drawn tattoos and your PC gets really badly drawn (or just scrawls) could be an option. Your tattoos are fantastically drawn. I hate the fact that they would be on my PC but isn't that the point! - it's meant to be degrading/humiliating. 

 

 

Monoman1

Monoman1

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I think bdsm/slavery is fair game for tats. Its core for the mod but I'll let audhol decide the details. As a creator I find that the best stuff you come up with is stuff you're interested in. And as was said you can swap them out/turn it off etc. 

 

I know this is late but maybe we should apply each stage separately? That would make it even more modular...

 

1 hour ago, (\x.x x) (\x.x x) said:

What is the timescale you play on?

5 ? 

Monoman1

Monoman1

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44 minutes ago, audhol said:

 

So...............ummm...............well.............. Y'all gonna hate it but here is "my" idea for stage 3 (sorry kapi)

Thumbs up from me.

Appreciate your work/patience. 

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Balgin

Balgin

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5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I usually crank it up too. 

But not usually longer than a month. 

Yeah. I tend to go for the whole nine months........

 

it's kind of traditional (and more immersive/believable for me).

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Monoman1

Monoman1

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22 minutes ago, Balgin said:

Yeah. I tend to go for the whole nine months........

 

it's kind of traditional (and more immersive/believable for me).

Uuhhh. Gonna be fun for you if I add a gender check for the baby... :D

Balgin

Balgin

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26 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Uuhhh. Gonna be fun for you if I add a gender check for the baby... :D

Sure. You take a wedding ring and tie it to a piece of string and dangle it over the pregnant woman's belly. You can tell which sex the child is by which way the ring begins to turn.

 

Or so old wives do tell. Perhaps the father could send the girl to Arcadia to have her check for him. She could probably concoct some kind of potion then check the colour of the girl's pee (or the father could check after she gets home and the potion's had time to work it's way through her system). No need for actual unique urine colour visual effects if it's a waste of resources. If.

 

I swear every new idea delays the next update even further.

audhol

audhol

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7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I think bdsm/slavery is fair game for tats. Its core for the mod but I'll let audhol decide the details. As a creator I find that the best stuff you come up with is stuff you're interested in. And as was said you can swap them out/turn it off etc. 

 

I know this is late but maybe we should apply each stage separately? That would make it even more modular...

Its not a problem for me but if you split them then your going to use a slot for each in slavetats.

 

Its fun to make the tats So I could do a bdsm theme pack to if you want or if someone else wants to have a go but they're not sure how to do it I could do a little guide. You just need to be familiar with working with layers and alpha properties in gimp or another paint program.

 

 

kapibar

kapibar

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8 hours ago, Balgin said:

Yeah. I tend to go for the whole nine months........

Same here. It's pregnancy. It's supposed to take forever.

 

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Uuhhh. Gonna be fun for you if I add a gender check for the baby... :D

So, honey, are we having a son or an abortion?

Balgin

Balgin

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3 hours ago, kapibar said:

So, honey, are we having a son or an abortion?

I foresee lots of spicy Redgaurd food in her future. That, and lots of alcohol, and being hit in the stomach repeatedly with an iron bar.

kapibar

kapibar

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5 minutes ago, Balgin said:

I foresee lots of spicy Redgaurd food in her future. That, and lots of alcohol, and being hit in the stomach repeatedly with an iron bar.

She could also have an appointment for a gravity therapy in Dr. Staircase's clinic.

 

My only concern is that I think the sex of the offspring in Beeing Female is randomly assigned after the birth. If I'm correct in my assumption - Mono wold have to do his favourite thing and create a patch.

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