Maria Eden SE

[zaira]

4 hours ago, Inte said:

The power of the Dragonborn is...

You have misunderstood the scope and mission of MEP. It is not about interfering with the story of Skyrim.
MEP only provides a reasonably credible justification for leaving the main quest behind in order to devote yourself entirely to role playing: I've lost everything, I'm nothing, I have nothing. If I try to sell my body to avoid starving miserably, I may lose control.

 

For this role play, I strongly recommend switching to maximum difficulty and include mods which prevents you from growing up too fast (less loot, less money to earn by selling loot, real needs, much harder bandits), so you are enforced to prostitute yourself.

Edited February 17, 2024 by zaira

[Inte]

10 hours ago, zaira said:

You have misunderstood the scope and mission of MEP.

No, I have not.

 

10 hours ago, zaira said:

It is not about interfering with the story of Skyrim.

I never said it was.

 

10 hours ago, zaira said:

MEP only provides a reasonably credible justification

That’s just it, it does not do that when it comes to enslaving the Dragonborn. 
The Dragonborn was created by Akatosh the Dragon God of Time, which makes her the daughter of Akatosh and a demigod (a mortal with the powers of a god). As such, she is not a mere mortal. 
The Master just telling her that she is now enslaved and that she belongs to him is not credible. The Master making her completely helpless by tying her up really tight is credible.  

 

10 hours ago, zaira said:

I've lost everything, I'm nothing, I have nothing. If I try to sell my body to avoid starving miserably,

Once again, not credible when it comes to the Dragonborn. Even if the Dragonborn lost everything, she is still a demigod, the most powerful being in Skyrim. So, prostituting herself to avoid starving is not credible. Prostituting herself for fun, is credible.

 

10 hours ago, zaira said:

I may lose control.

The only way the Dragonborn will ever loose control, is if she is bound really tight and don’t forget the giant ball gag. 

 

Look, I know MEP is a prostitution mod first and foremost. I’m just trying to make the enslavement part of the mod (which I like the most) more credible, especially when it comes to the Dragonborn.
I already like the ideas you mentioned in your previous post and I’m willing to suspend disbelief for the rest*, well except for the execution of the Dragonborn, that’s just retarded.  

 

* - If adding a MCM option to keep the Dragonborn bound at all times is not possible.

[zaira]

3 minutes ago, Inte said:

giant ball gag

 

3 minutes ago, Inte said:

not credible

3 minutes ago, Inte said:

retarded

It's your role play - that's fine for me.

The scope of MEP will never change, there are enough mods out there with a strong focus on restraints.

There is no need to put another one on top. And since I now migrated to DD NG, MEP plays well with all the DD restraints mods.

6 minutes ago, Inte said:

MCM option

I don't want to waste time in developing a menu that the users needs only at a single point of time - at the beginning of the game and there and over and over again. Options are defined by dialogs or JSON files.

So no MCM in next MEP unless another modder create and maintain one.

[Inte]

2 minutes ago, zaira said:

The scope of MEP will never change, there are enough mods out there with a strong focus on restraints.

Fair enough. 

 

2 minutes ago, zaira said:

I don't want to waste time in developing a menu that the users needs only at a single point of time

Defining the option to keep the slave bound at all time in a .json file is fine by me. 

[zaira]

I played the story of Skyrim a thousand of times. I am done with the story.  For me, Skyrim is just a puppet stage. Once Starfield has Sexlab/DD NG I will immediately switch over because the Story of MEP fits better into the world of Starfield. Being a streetwalker in Neon is something Bethesda forgot to implement...

 

Or being a courtesan on a traveling spaceship like Inara Serra in Firefly - I want to implement this asap.

Edited February 18, 2024 by zaira

[Inte]

I wander if someone will create a Skyrim planet in Starfield.

[zaira]

There are some dirty inns and places in Starfield which can be a good stage for prostitution, pimps and for sex trafficking.

 

My biggest hope was Cyberpunk because this would be a perfect match, fucked up dirty places and NPCs everywhere, but its modding capabilities are far too limited.

[Kharadin]

2 hours ago, zaira said:

There are some dirty inns and places in Starfield which can be a good stage for prostitution, pimps and for sex trafficking.

And who knows what happens in those small colonies sponsored by LIST 🙄 And obviously, Paradiso is a very seedy place (just look at what we saw and heard from their director board in the quest with a ship). It can have relatively tame recreation areas, but it most certainly must have a more... wild... kind of resorts also. This Red Mile planet is also nearby, if I recall correctly.

Also Cydonia seems to be a very low-life colony.

 

Sorry for the off-topic, I just can't wait for all the content that may be implemented in Starfield.

Edited February 18, 2024 by Kharadin
Corrected a typo

[zaira]

2 hours ago, Kharadin said:

I just can't wait for all the content that may be implemented in Starfield

I would sell my grand-ma for role-playing a courtesan on a traveling spaceship 🙂

[jc321]

@zaira I would imagine the CK is going to be more aligned with FO4's CK have you ever re-looked at FO4 to create any mods in? If I recall you dismissed it very early on but wasn't sure if that was just due to the graphical look and feel or the limitations with what was capable for NSFW modding.

 

If you look at what JB has achieved with Nuka Ride and Commonwealth Slavers it's far better looking than what was a achievable a couple of years back.

 

in anycase Starfield looks promising.. 

 

 

[zaira]

I dismissed FO4 for bad look and feel and because I don't really like the FO4 scenery at all.

[MyNameIsnt]

This is my favorite mod for Skyrim, glad to see it's still being worked on! 😀

[AWHA2]

On 2/18/2024 at 4:43 PM, zaira said:

I dismissed FO4 for bad look and feel and because I don't really like the FO4 scenery at all.

Bad look and feel can be fixed with custom assets and ENB. The FO4 engine is much more powerful than the one in Skyrim. However the biggest drawback of FO4 modding IMO is the lack of good quality animations.

[jfraser]

28 minutes ago, AWHA2 said:

Bad look and feel can be fixed with custom assets and ENB. The FO4 engine is much more powerful than the one in Skyrim. However the biggest drawback of FO4 modding IMO is the lack of good quality animations.

can't argue with that. a newer engine but not nearly the same work by animation and mod makers. everything looks a little janky.

[BigOnes69]

18 hours ago, jfraser said:

can't argue with that. a newer engine but not nearly the same work by animation and mod makers. everything looks a little janky.

Just tried a 1 month replay. The bodies are just terrible and to get them to work properly just sucks. Can not switch from one body to another without a lot of problems. Some of the newer sexlab mods are just awesome if you can put up with the other shit.

[AWHA2]

On 3/4/2024 at 12:20 PM, BigOnes69 said:

Just tried a 1 month replay. The bodies are just terrible and to get them to work properly just sucks. Can not switch from one body to another without a lot of problems. Some of the newer sexlab mods are just awesome if you can put up with the other shit.

Things might start improving now that NAF is working in FO4 with the new event bridge. Maybe more animators will be interested

[cmblue]

Was just thinking about a reinstall, decided to only do so once a significant mod - such as this one - gets updated. 

 

This strategy has kept me from playing Skyrim for over a year XD

 

Tried FO4, I don't think it translates as well as Skyrim modding tbf. Would like a different base game, but even starfield with it's issues doesn't seem like a likely replacement unfortunately. 

[Azatthot]

Hey whenever my owner gives me a iron plug it never gets recognized as equipped? I have tried everything to my knowledge can someone help please

[jc321]

1 hour ago, Azatthot said:

Hey whenever my owner gives me a iron plug it never gets recognized as equipped? I have tried everything to my knowledge can someone help please

 

I'd double check the dependencies (ie: correct Zaz version) first just incase .. as that maybe a far more simple fix. 

 

However I haven't played for a while (eagerly awaiting a newer version to come out) but I had this on a variant version of ME and  (if I recall)  you can fix (as a bodge job) by loading the mod into Creation Kit and if you know the device(s) it's trying to equip you need to see if there are any keywords associated with that device that are linked to the mod. It used to be something like MariaDevices (on old version) but newer version I think it's looking at the keywords of zbfWornPlug or zbdWornAnalPlug (the latter would tally with the condition in the package MEPEquipAnalPlug assuming it's anal) 

 

The version of ME I'm running at the moment is using an Armor type of MEPPlugDummy (which has those keywords) but I can't determine how it associates itself with the plugs I assume are from Zaz. .. so if you just find those armours in Zaz (which I assume you have installed?) then adding those keywords may help ... shouldn't break things! but be warned.. make a backup of the esp in question.

 

If that's the only edit you've made then you should be able to save the file (mariaprostitution.esp) without any fear of re-compiling etc.. There maybe a much easier way using TSEdit that someone else viewing this maybe able to share. 

 

 

 

 

[Azatthot]

5 hours ago, jc321 said:

The version of ME I'm running at the moment is using an Armor type of MEPPlugDummy (which has those keywords) but I can't determine how it associates itself with the plugs I assume are from Zaz. .. so if you just find those armours in Zaz (which I assume you have installed?) then adding those keywords may help ... shouldn't break things! but be warned.. make a backup of the esp in question.

4 HOURS I wasted 4 HOURS on this. Your advice was actually very informative but I couldn't make it work.

I tried installing zaz7revisedSE. I deleted zaz 8.

I tried adding keywords too but to no avail. I am tired and not gonna touch it unless someone makes this somewhat sensible to me. I tried original German version instead of English version. It still fails. I recorded video of that. I can upload it too. I tried adding worn Anal, worn Vaginal ,worn slippery and all failed. I know its zbfwornPlug. Its just so awful for me. I don't have creation kit. I am straight up pirating this. I bought it before but I can't anymore.

This type of problem cannot be solved on SSEedit atleast I am not smart enough. People here are much more experienced so I am gonna leave it to them to fix it. BUT if things works seamlessly for you please share your .esps Thank you again but I tried everything I can think of now Goodbye. Please for next update do english subtitles also. German voice rocks.

Edited April 2, 2024 by Azatthot
Its a mess here

[jc321]

30 minutes ago, Azatthot said:

BUT if things works seamlessly for you please share your .esps

If you can confirm it's the version from Page 1 of this thread (ie: 2021-06-11) I'll have a look over the next couple of days and see if I  get the same issue or not. If I do get the issue and manage to resolve I'll send you a copy. I'm pretty sure it's just the mariaprostitution.esp . however would be handy if anyone else has experienced it or not. 

[Azatthot]

8 hours ago, jc321 said:

If you can confirm it's the version from Page 1 of this thread (ie: 2021-06-11) I'll have a look over the next couple of days and see if I  get the same issue or not. If I do get the issue and manage to resolve I'll send you a copy. I'm pretty sure it's just the mariaprostitution.esp . however would be handy if anyone else has experienced it or not. 

Yes I downloaded Maria Eden 2021-06-11. And I am using English translation patches. Patches overwrite yes. But I tried without patch it still don't work. Backup your own esp. And give me yours. I wanna try your esp

also this idk MariaProstitution_german_english.xml original 2021-06-11 MariaProstitution.esp translated MariaProstitution.esp

[Azatthot]

Ok one update I truly tried everything now. In my opinion its zaz version mismatch cuz idk what it can be but I am still posting if anyone more knowledgable can hint me towards fixing it I will be gratefull.

 

 

IT ALL FAILED THOUGH. DON'T COPY THESE STEPS.

[Jappa123]

Well.. any update about release? since it been 2 monts of silence, last time you ask us about releasing "wip" version, so what are the plans? Thanks!

[zaira]

I am consolidating MEP. It takes long. I will likely release in two stages - MariaBase first and it is almost complete.

It contains all managers to modify the game play, outfits, locations.

 

MariaProstitution will follow later.