Maria Eden SE

[rjn]

I did an English translation of MariaBase.esm and MariaCustomLocations.json.  Others may find them useful.

 

 

MariaCustomLocations.json MariaBase.esm

[welzelkel]

On 1/4/2025 at 8:03 PM, Rylalei said:

So, I'm having a bit of an issue, and I'm not sure what's causing it.

 

If I start a new game, there's gonna be a black screen and nothing happens (assuming another mod doesn't open a window, then I can interact with it), but, if I open racemenu via showracemenu console command, I am in the ME starting cell, but can't leave through the door, the message "Marian Eden is not ready yet. Please wait a while", and only options "ok" and "no matter", whichever I choose nothing happens, and in both scenarios (black screen or interacting with door), doesn't seem to matter how long I wait, nothing changes.

 

I tried removing everything except the essential mods, aka ME and dependencies, but still, nothing changes.

 

I got no clue.

you ever found a solution?

[welzelkel]

seemingly npcs from maria eden won't talk to me as well. any solutions?

 

They talk to me if I don't use the translation files though which is interesting. I don't get how translation files might be breaking something

Edited March 29, 2025 by welzelkel

[rjn]

2 hours ago, welzelkel said:

seemingly npcs from maria eden won't talk to me as well. any solutions?

 

They talk to me if I don't use the translation files though which is interesting. I don't get how translation files might be breaking something

I believe the trick for using the translation is to turn on subtitles for the game. (I haven't tested this - but it worked that way in ME 2.5).

Edited March 29, 2025 by rjn
clearer explanation

[Rylalei]

On 3/29/2025 at 9:24 PM, welzelkel said:

you ever found a solution?

Redownloaded all the mods, that got it fixed, so I guess it was simply a mod not working properly.

[zaira]

Some outlook and an update:

I am back to MEP modding since several months now. There is a change of scope I want to express:

• I am removing large parts of the old MEP - especially those parts that are one-timer shows
• I focus a lot of a deep integration of DD, but this does not change my main focus on covering a complete role playing experience. You will get a MEP that utilizes almost all aspects and features of DD, but it will still not play well with other mods that do changes on the actor and it's followers. If you're gonna play MEP, it's a MEP game.
• Since I am a clothing fetishist, a huge part of next MEP is about controlling the look of the player. You might know the current MariaEden with its outfit system. This will become much more extended. People will react on your look, the main game play will be very much influenced by your look. And since I give all NPCs a memory, all the impacts are persistent. At the end, this means you need a lot of time for preparation to settle outfits and classify armor before you can start. It does matter if an item is a nose piercing, a heel, a wig, a nipple piercing etc. Since there is no real common keyword library, you have to do this classification once in your game. 
• Even next MEP will not be a mod to extend the Skyrim experience - it remains to be a replacement. I try to integrate all mods that fit into my vision. In contrast to the old MEP there are much more MOD integrations - so in principle you need a huge mod list to gain the same role play experience as I have in my mind.
• In my vision, Tamriel is a rude place full of misogynists. The role play I prepare is starting as a low life in a cold and harsh world. Everyone like to humiliate the player. It is a hard NSFW experience and will cover also controversial aspects.
• The prostitution aspect becomes much more weight, and I try to implement this in a way that somehow makes sense.

Mod integrations so far:

• DD NG including Contraptions - long time I had my doubts about DD, but DD NG has blown away any of them. DD NG is perfect.
• Sexlab - I switched to Toys framework and OSL, but the one has died, and the other does not play well with DD and a harsh NSWF experience.
• OSL Aroused - this one is finally mature enough, so I started to migrate my internal system towards arousal.
• Slave Tats - I treat Tats as outfit parts, this makes very much sense - if you ever compared Tats based lingerie with mesh based you will see immediately why.
• Slap da But - the player should feel the misogyny first hand, how can this better being experienced than by males clapping the but of the player?
• Interactive Wash Basins - NPCs will notice when you are covered with cum, so keeping you clean after a job is essential.
• Skyirm Unbound Reborn - I tried so many startup mods, but this is the one with the best mod collaboration interface. I integrate a lot of paths into this mod, so the player has a lot of options to jump straight into NSWF role play.
• Mini Needs - good old Mod, unfortunately it seems to be died, anyway it is still worth to being integrated
• Growing Pubic and Body Hair - most males in my Tamriel prefers bald pussies, and they react on it. With this mod installed, you gain another daily practice - keeping yourself shaved for business.
• Several brothel mods (all from https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/manguz and some more) - I try to hijack the locations to run the default MEP brothel quest in these foreign locations.
• Hydra Slavegirls - it is essential that the player is not the only slave in Tamriel. The lore of MEP only makes sense if slavery is usual. So I try to pimp the slaves and masters in a way that they interact immersive with the player.

 

I still use some ZAP assets, but I plan to remove them - actually, I use the whip and some animations - all of them from ZAP 7.

I tried to integrate mods for prison (PAP) and surrender but none of them fit's into the MEP lore, and they don't have an interface for mod collaboration which is really satisfying. I try to detect clashes, but I don't spend many efforts on this, especially I am now totally ignoring ZAP interfaces. I have spent way too much time in the past on this.

 

And another major change is that I switched to vanilla voices now. This implies that every sentence can be spoken by different voices so that the voice pack will be very huge. MEP is a very language-heavy mod.

 

So what's the plan? I am doing cleanups and putting unstable quests on a blacklist. I expect a release this year in a very rough stage - the player behaviour control and the NPC AI is so complex that it needs support (goodwill) by the player - I added a lot of cheats to skip broken parts, but it will probably never be a fully self-driven user experience - it will be more a role-play where you are in charge to drive the lore and keep it alive.

Edited May 31, 2025 by zaira

[Nikerage]

2 hours ago, zaira said:

Some outlook and an update:

I am back to MEP modding since several months now. There is a change of scope I want to express:

• I am removing large parts of the old MEP - especially those parts that are one-timer shows
• I focus a lot of a deep integration of DD, but this does not change my main focus on covering a complete role playing experience. You will get a MEP that utilizes almost all aspects and features of DD, but it will still not play well with other mods that do changes on the actor and it's followers. If you're gonna play MEP, it's a MEP game.
• Since I am a clothing fetishist, a huge part of next MEP is about controlling the look of the player. You might know the current MariaEden with its outfit system. This will become much more extended. People will react on your look, the main game play will be very much influenced by your look. And since I give all NPCs a memory, all the impacts are persistent. At the end, this means you need a lot of time for preparation to settle outfits and classify armor before you can start. It does matter if an item is a nose piercing, a heel, a wig, a nipple piercing etc. Since there is no real common keyword library, you have to do this classification once in your game. 
• Even next MEP will not be a mod to extend the Skyrim experience - it remains to be a replacement. I try to integrate all mods that fit into my vision. In contrast to the old MEP there are much more MOD integrations - so in principle you need a huge mod list to gain the same role play experience as I have in my mind.
• In my vision, Tamriel is a rude place full of misogynists. The role play I prepare is starting as a low life in a cold and harsh world. Everyone like to humiliate the player. It is a hard NSFW experience and will cover also controversial aspects.
• The prostitution aspect becomes much more weight, and I try to implement this in a way that somehow makes sense.

Mod integrations so far:

• DD NG including Contraptions - long time I had my doubts about DD, but DD NG has blown away any of them. DD NG is perfect.
• Sexlab - I switched to Toys framework and OSL, but the one has died, and the other does not play well with DD and a harsh NSWF experience.
• OSL Aroused - this one is finally mature enough, so I started to migrate my internal system towards arousal.
• Slave Tats - I treat Tats as outfit parts, this makes very much sense - if you ever compared Tats based lingerie with mesh based you will see immediately why.
• Slap da But - the player should feel the misogyny first hand, how can this better being experienced than by males clapping the but of the player?
• Interactive Wash Basins - NPCs will notice when you are covered with cum, so keeping you clean after a job is essential.
• Skyirm Unbound Reborn - I tried so many startup mods, but this is the one with the best mod collaboration interface. I integrate a lot of paths into this mod, so the player has a lot of options to jump straight into NSWF role play.
• Mini Needs - good old Mod, unfortunately it seems to be died, anyway it is still worth to being integrated
• Growing Pubic and Body Hair - most males in my Tamriel prefers bald pussies, and they react on it. With this mod installed, you gain another daily practice - keeping yourself shaved for business.
• Several brothel mods (all from https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/manguz and some more) - I try to hijack the locations to run the default MEP brothel quest in these foreign locations.
• Hydra Slavegirls - it is essential that the player is not the only slave in Tamriel. The lore of MEP only makes sense if slavery is usual. So I try to pimp the slaves and masters in a way that they interact immersive with the player.

 

I still use some ZAP assets, but I plan to remove them - actually, I use the whip and some animations - all of them from ZAP 7.

I tried to integrate mods for prison (PAP) and surrender but none of them fit's into the MEP lore, and they don't have an interface for mod collaboration which is really satisfying. I try to detect clashes, but I don't spend many efforts on this, especially I am now totally ignoring ZAP interfaces. I have spent way too much time in the past on this.

 

And another major change is that I switched to vanilla voices now. This implies that every sentence can be spoken by different voices so that the voice pack will be very huge. MEP is a very language-heavy mod.

 

So what's the plan? I am doing cleanups and putting unstable quests on a blacklist. I expect a release this year in a very rough stage - the player behaviour control and the NPC AI is so complex that it needs support (goodwill) by the player - I added a lot of cheats to skip broken parts, but it will probably never be a fully self-driven user experience - it will be more a role-play where you are in charge to drive the lore and keep it alive.

This sounds like a dream .. ❤️ 

[audhol]

14 hours ago, zaira said:

Mod integrations so far:

 

 

Have you considered the option of rather than just a mod you create an entire self contained instance of the world by making a wabajack?

 

It would enable you to have complete controll of all dependancies and conflicts whilst making it simpler for the user to install.

 

You could also use MCM recorder to set all options to your liking for the player.

 

You could have as many outfits/accesories as you like from nexus or LL and integrate them as you wish using patches contained within your mod.

 

Player conflicts with other mods would be non existant as the entire modlist would be chosen by you.

[rjn]

How about using SES2 the enforcer standalone mod instead of Hydra Slavegirls.  It creates slaves from existing NPC already in the game. And since it has very editable ini files that make it easy to choose who will be slaves and what gear they will wear.  I've been using it for several games and like how it works and it was recently updated.  I used to have some crashes with the Hydra mod.

[zaira]

3 hours ago, rjn said:

How about using SES2 the enforcer standalone mod instead of Hydra Slavegirls.  It creates slaves from existing NPC already in the game. And since it has very editable ini files that make it easy to choose who will be slaves and what gear they will wear.  I've been using it for several games and like how it works and it was recently updated.  I used to have some crashes with the Hydra mod.

Hydra does not simply turn NPCs into Slaves, it adds masters with one or more slaves who are following.

I had also support for 

But unfortunately this one causes troubles, so I dropped the support.
But there is a light support for this one

 

[zaira]

6 hours ago, audhol said:

wabajack?

I have some thousands of mods installed (my Skyrim Folder size is about 395GB), also some paid mods. It will be hard to collect what is really required to gain the same user experience that I have. But if someone wants to do it, I'll offer any support.

Edited June 1, 2025 by zaira

[zaira]

6 hours ago, audhol said:

You could also use MCM recorder to set all options to your liking for the player.

This one was very nice, but today it is quite outdated, and it adds some bad SkyUI overrides that clashes with other mods.

[zaira]

The MEP VoicePack is 130GB (400.000 voice files), but this is the raw size, after batch conversion I guess it will be about 30GB

[Rylalei]

Looking forward to the next version then.

 

If clothing and appearance will be important, hopefully I'll figure out why my game just can't seem to "store" the clothing choices I select. Atm, even after a reinstall, if I select, say the barmaid clothes for hooker clothes, when I get that hooker clothes item thingy, it's equipping nothing.

[most_wanted]

On 5/31/2025 at 6:29 PM, zaira said:

Some outlook and an update:

I am back to MEP modding since several months now. There is a change of scope I want to express:

• I am removing large parts of the old MEP - especially those parts that are one-timer shows
• I focus a lot of a deep integration of DD, but this does not change my main focus on covering a complete role playing experience. You will get a MEP that utilizes almost all aspects and features of DD, but it will still not play well with other mods that do changes on the actor and it's followers. If you're gonna play MEP, it's a MEP game.
• Since I am a clothing fetishist, a huge part of next MEP is about controlling the look of the player. You might know the current MariaEden with its outfit system. This will become much more extended. People will react on your look, the main game play will be very much influenced by your look. And since I give all NPCs a memory, all the impacts are persistent. At the end, this means you need a lot of time for preparation to settle outfits and classify armor before you can start. It does matter if an item is a nose piercing, a heel, a wig, a nipple piercing etc. Since there is no real common keyword library, you have to do this classification once in your game. 
• Even next MEP will not be a mod to extend the Skyrim experience - it remains to be a replacement. I try to integrate all mods that fit into my vision. In contrast to the old MEP there are much more MOD integrations - so in principle you need a huge mod list to gain the same role play experience as I have in my mind.
• In my vision, Tamriel is a rude place full of misogynists. The role play I prepare is starting as a low life in a cold and harsh world. Everyone like to humiliate the player. It is a hard NSFW experience and will cover also controversial aspects.
• The prostitution aspect becomes much more weight, and I try to implement this in a way that somehow makes sense.

Mod integrations so far:

• DD NG including Contraptions - long time I had my doubts about DD, but DD NG has blown away any of them. DD NG is perfect.
• Sexlab - I switched to Toys framework and OSL, but the one has died, and the other does not play well with DD and a harsh NSWF experience.
• OSL Aroused - this one is finally mature enough, so I started to migrate my internal system towards arousal.
• Slave Tats - I treat Tats as outfit parts, this makes very much sense - if you ever compared Tats based lingerie with mesh based you will see immediately why.
• Slap da But - the player should feel the misogyny first hand, how can this better being experienced than by males clapping the but of the player?
• Interactive Wash Basins - NPCs will notice when you are covered with cum, so keeping you clean after a job is essential.
• Skyirm Unbound Reborn - I tried so many startup mods, but this is the one with the best mod collaboration interface. I integrate a lot of paths into this mod, so the player has a lot of options to jump straight into NSWF role play.
• Mini Needs - good old Mod, unfortunately it seems to be died, anyway it is still worth to being integrated
• Growing Pubic and Body Hair - most males in my Tamriel prefers bald pussies, and they react on it. With this mod installed, you gain another daily practice - keeping yourself shaved for business.
• Several brothel mods (all from https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/manguz and some more) - I try to hijack the locations to run the default MEP brothel quest in these foreign locations.
• Hydra Slavegirls - it is essential that the player is not the only slave in Tamriel. The lore of MEP only makes sense if slavery is usual. So I try to pimp the slaves and masters in a way that they interact immersive with the player.

 

I still use some ZAP assets, but I plan to remove them - actually, I use the whip and some animations - all of them from ZAP 7.

I tried to integrate mods for prison (PAP) and surrender but none of them fit's into the MEP lore, and they don't have an interface for mod collaboration which is really satisfying. I try to detect clashes, but I don't spend many efforts on this, especially I am now totally ignoring ZAP interfaces. I have spent way too much time in the past on this.

 

And another major change is that I switched to vanilla voices now. This implies that every sentence can be spoken by different voices so that the voice pack will be very huge. MEP is a very language-heavy mod.

 

So what's the plan? I am doing cleanups and putting unstable quests on a blacklist. I expect a release this year in a very rough stage - the player behaviour control and the NPC AI is so complex that it needs support (goodwill) by the player - I added a lot of cheats to skip broken parts, but it will probably never be a fully self-driven user experience - it will be more a role-play where you are in charge to drive the lore and keep it alive.

I really like the vision and setup you've planned.

 

Two comments:

 

1) I love the attention to the atmosphere you're aiming for. In my opinion, if you want a really great experience, you should have the player start from one or more "poor" situations, and drive it towards the "nsfw" parts gradually. And always in my opinion one of the best ways to do that (and also fun for the player to roleplay in) is to play with the money: you need to have one or two mods that kind of limits\simulates an harsh world where work\money is difficult to obtain, so a lot of people have to use other means to survive. (I'm pretty sure there're "economy mods" that can do that, but there's probably a lot more that I don't know).
There could also be "gameplay phases", like the classic barmaid job, but maybe I'm asking for too much.

2) I hope you'll be able to reach a finished state for the mod\experience, all the work you put in deserves much more attention than it has now, and the only way is to get out of this persistent alpha\beta stage.

 

Good luck

Edited June 17, 2025 by most_wanted

[zaira]

7 hours ago, most_wanted said:

you should have the player start from one or more "poor" situations, and drive it towards the "nsfw" parts gradually

This is exactly what I am actually doing, some of the starters:

• starting in Redwater Den in a group of naked captives. The Den is not just a Skooma club. You hear how the other captives get through a hell - now the guard comes to fetch you because it is your turn - in progress.
• starting in Volkihar, Harkon is already dead, Serana is the Boss now, you gonna be presented to an envoy of Molag - the outcome changes the whole Game. Finished.
• starting in a slave auction. Finished
• starting in a brothel. Finished
• starting as captive in a cell of the embassy of the thalmors. Getting through an interrogation. Not decided if I try to integrate the existing interrogation mod or doing it on my own. Planned.
• starting as a captive in a random fort. Almost finished.
• starting at a farm as a farmer's slave. Planned.
• starting in a mine as worker (for mining and miner's enjoyment). Almost finished.
• starting in a public execution. A very quick story - you simply come to go. Finished.
• starting as a Khajiit caravan slave, traveling through the country. Finished.
• victim of falmers, being rescued shortly before death. Almost finished.
• being a forced prostitute of the thievery guild. Finished.
• working in a tavern. Finished.

[Nikerage]

2 hours ago, zaira said:

This is exactly what I am actually doing, some of the starters:

• starting in Redwater Den in a group of naked captives. The Den is not just a Skooma club. You hear how the other captives get through a hell - now the guard comes to fetch you because it is your turn - in progress.
• starting in Volkihar, Harkon is already dead, Serana is the Boss now, you gonna be presented to an envoy of Molag - the outcome changes the whole Game. Finished.
• starting in a slave auction. Finished
• starting in a brothel. Finished
• starting as captive in a cell of the embassy of the thalmors. Getting through an interrogation. Not decided if I try to integrate the existing interrogation mod or doing it on my own. Planned.
• starting as a captive in a random fort. Almost finished.
• starting at a farm as a farmer's slave. Planned.
• starting in a mine as worker (for mining and miner's enjoyment). Almost finished.
• starting in a public execution. A very quick story - you simply come to go. Finished.
• starting as a Khajiit caravan slave, traveling through the country. Finished.
• victim of falmers, being rescued shortly before death. Almost finished.
• being a forced prostitute of the thievery guild. Finished.
• working in a tavern. Finished.

Ohhh wow im so excited 😍

[BigOnes69]

15 hours ago, zaira said:

This is exactly what I am actually doing, some of the starters:

• starting in Redwater Den in a group of naked captives. The Den is not just a Skooma club. You hear how the other captives get through a hell - now the guard comes to fetch you because it is your turn - in progress.
• starting in Volkihar, Harkon is already dead, Serana is the Boss now, you gonna be presented to an envoy of Molag - the outcome changes the whole Game. Finished.
• starting in a slave auction. Finished
• starting in a brothel. Finished
• starting as captive in a cell of the embassy of the thalmors. Getting through an interrogation. Not decided if I try to integrate the existing interrogation mod or doing it on my own. Planned.
• starting as a captive in a random fort. Almost finished.
• starting at a farm as a farmer's slave. Planned.
• starting in a mine as worker (for mining and miner's enjoyment). Almost finished.
• starting in a public execution. A very quick story - you simply come to go. Finished.
• starting as a Khajiit caravan slave, traveling through the country. Finished.
• victim of falmers, being rescued shortly before death. Almost finished.
• being a forced prostitute of the thievery guild. Finished.
• working in a tavern. Finished.

Wow. 

[zaira]

Compared with last MEP I reduced complex sceneries. I want to have some stable scenarios that fits to multiple situations.

[xxx65]

Nice looking forward to to the mod.  

[Fraying9981]

 

Hi

This mod looks really cool, I had a couple of questions after browsing the different threads:

- where is the latest english translation (if there is any that is complete)? I couldn't find a recent, complete file

- i umderstand it's an overhaul. Is there a way out of the mod? Readme suggests killing the pimp -> then if you manage to remove the collar are you free forever?

- does it support SLP+?

- does it support deviously enslaved redux? It is cited in DE readme that Maria Eden is an outcome, but at the same time, Maria Eden seems to be implying that you will quickly get enslaved anyway so idk

- does it support devious followers latest version? I suppose not

 

Thanks in advance for your tips!

[manafalls]

I'm glad to see you're still working on this - I've stayed on 1.5.97 in part because I really like many of the features this mod adds.

I imagine some, if not most, of the things I like are on the cutting room floor, but fwiw, here's a couple things ME adds to the world I'd personally love to see stay:

• the menu system. it's surprising how often and useful I find the cheats and the hotkey poses (jump ahead a few feet is awesome)
• the brothel npc-npc scenes. these add so much life to the world, that it is not just the player with agency. 
• the auction. simple slavery is great, and it would be easy to just use that, but i enjoy the ME specific scene as well

 

the one thing i'd be happy to see go is being given a task but not catching what it was, and having no way of finding out what it was.

 

re: mcmrecorder - I find it so useful I don't think I'd play without it anymore. I just have it flagged with a note in MO2 to remember to disable it (and locking it in place before I do) any time I'm compiling scripts, along with the other things that only need to be activated when compiling (old skyui, etc.). I've never found it to interfere with gameplay, but if it does, it could always go at the bottom of the load order, be used to load all the mcms, and then deactivated after saving. That's a pain, but still less of a pain than manually configuring a hundred mcms.

[zaira]

3 hours ago, manafalls said:

re: mcmrecorder

This one is buggy. It is not based on any official available MCM. You see it if you try to compile it. I liked it as well, but it had severe side effects due to it was made for a private MCM version - I don't remember which, too long ago.

Edited July 13, 2025 by zaira

[crococat]

On 7/9/2025 at 12:41 PM, Fraying9981 said:

Is there a way out of the mod?

you may use cheat menu anytime, but it is simple to just pay and go out.

deviously enlaved ME scenario not work, maybe it was for old LE version.

devious followers have no connection, but mainy dont conflict, may break some scenes

[crococat]

Hello. Just checked that i have 2.5.3 version installed.

Would it be safe to upgrade to 2.6.0? New game required?