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Found this on Reddit and want to share:

 

www.reddit.com/r/ElderScrolls/comments/dn3opk/why_i_hope_6_never_comes_out

 

I agree entirely with this poster.

I hope TES VI will never be released.

I want Bethesda to focus on Elder Snares Online, with ever more expensive items and ever more greedy practices. Let the cucks be cucked.

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Personally Ill probably wait a few months after Elder Scrolls 6 comes out for someone to patch the numerous bugs that all Bethesda games seem to have.  And I wouldn't buy it unless it is just as violent and gory as Skyrim is.  Also ES 6 needs to allow us to use any player made mod for it for free the way you can for Skyrim LE.

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21 hours ago, SkyTem said:

Also ES 6 needs to allow us to use any player made mod for it for free the way you can for Skyrim LE.

in your dreams :classic_wink:

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your dream bursts like a soap bubble. :classic_laugh:

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Bethesda has launched pay mods and it won't go away, because a lot of modders see the quick money.
and I doubt that Bethesda ever a creations kit releasing for TES6!

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23 hours ago, winny257 said:

Also ES 6 needs to allow us to use any player made mod for it for free the way you can for Skyrim LE.

Well I guess I'm not buying any more Bethesda games then :(.  As buggy as their games are and as bare bones as their games are as far as content, having to pay tons of micro transactions for mods on top of what they charge for the base game makes it not worth buying.  It's a shame,  their games were wonderfully violent.  On the bright side there are a ton of other violent games out there that I haven't gotten around to playing yet.  Ie "the Witcher Series, Grand Theft Auto series, New Doom games, Bio Shock Series, Far Cry series, Half Life Series, Fear series, etc.. There are probably a lot of other ones I haven't discovered yet :)

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9 hours ago, dagobaking said:

76 was the only game I ever pre-ordered. Lesson learned. Will never pre-order any game ever again.

Same, 76 was the first pre-order I ever did... worse mistake of my life and never got my refund at all. I really should do something about that, demanded a refund since 'beta' before public release... pretty sure it's been a year or so? Yea... still haven't given up on my refund though but I'm really annoyed, and thinking of suing their asses for not giving my money back. 60 bucks could of been used on something else, like food or something more better then that trash I got with 76.

 

Anyway never pre-ordering again for the rest of my life

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1 hour ago, Zathuul said:

Same, 76 was the first pre-order I ever did... worse mistake of my life and never got my refund at all. I really should do something about that, demanded a refund since 'beta' before public release... pretty sure it's been a year or so? Yea... still haven't given up on my refund though but I'm really annoyed, and thinking of suing their asses for not giving my money back. 60 bucks could of been used on something else, like food or something more better then that trash I got with 76.

 

Anyway never pre-ordering again for the rest of my life

At least you didn't get stuck with the $250 or whatever it was mask and fake duffel bag! :D

 

Another big rip-off was No Man's Sky. I still hold a grudge against Steam for not allowing a refund for that one because I had logged too much time on it before deciding it was not as they had originally advertised. The thing was that you couldn't really discover that without getting a decent ways into the game. To this day, I'm just waiting for a somewhat passable alternative to Steam so I can jump ship.

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8 hours ago, dagobaking said:

At least you didn't get stuck with the $250 or whatever it was mask and fake duffel bag! :D

 

Another big rip-off was No Man's Sky. I still hold a grudge against Steam for not allowing a refund for that one because I had logged too much time on it before deciding it was not as they had originally advertised. The thing was that you couldn't really discover that without getting a decent ways into the game. To this day, I'm just waiting for a somewhat passable alternative to Steam so I can jump ship.

Well it was discussed earlier that NMS was actually a rarity among its kind. The developers hyped it up way too much but once the release came out it was shit, yes, however HelloGames instead of going into damage control like Bethesda or abandoning ship and doing something else like other AAAs went the extra mile and shut off communication, taking things internally to fix the game and the mistakes they've made. They took their time ignoring the critics, the horrible internet yelling, and kept working on it to bring it up to the promises they'd initially made. The game is far beyond passable now, a large percent of the promises that were made during the hype train are now in-game playable and there's multiplayer.

The Internet Historian made a video detailing what went wrong and going through every event up to release and afterward from the viewpoint of HelloGames as well as the people from the outside looking in. Being bitter about the release is one thing but not acknowledging the work they continue to put through to undo that mistake is a whole other thing. Not to praise them too much because the release was still a mess but HelloGames is still an indie developer and they came back around to deliver on their promises, they're still supporting the game and releasing content even now.

Furthermore, Steam never employs the 2 hour limit for their refunds unless you've owned a game for over 2 weeks, even then if you haven't played it they'll let you refund it so you must've played a whole lot of it or owned it for far longer before deciding it wasn't worth it and on release it wouldn't take you longer than a few minutes to realise something was definitely wrong. I dunno how long it usually takes a person to get buyer's remorse but to go longer than 2 weeks and THEN decide you don't like the game when it was so awful on release? Hmmmmmmm~

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2 hours ago, Alkpaz said:

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ea-made-almost-1-billion-from-microtransactions-la/1100-6473240/

 

I guess people love them micro-transactions. 

 

"As you can see in the chart below, EA made $993 million from live services during the quarter ended December 31. For the 12 months as a whole, EA made $2.835 billion from microtransactions." One year 3 billion dollas! Micro transactions is where the money is made. Yeah, no company is going to go back to "the way things used to be", not at the tune of 3 billion dollars a year profit. 

 

Some of us on here, are the minority when it comes to how we view micro-transactions. We are not the ones they are made for. We can scream and yell all day long and nothing is going to change, not at those numbers.. wow. 3 billion just EA. Imagine the income Valve gets, or Blizzard, even if they piss off their customers, they know they will continue to buy their crap regardless, no wonder Bethesda is just fine with FO76. 

There's also the fact that a lot of players and i do mean a lot, don't even follow all the news around gaming as a whole. As far as some casual fifa player is concerned, nothing like this is even happening. They keep buying the same game over and over again and pay money to unlock stuff, because why not, putting in time to unlock stuff is a laughable concept to them. Just a few hours of casual playing on the couch and then it's something else entirely.

 

"Yeah i play sometimes but not that much dude i'm not a nerd or anything ya know" in short. So of course they're making so much money. Try explaining these people all this nuance and why microtransactions are such a shitty business practice for the integrity of gaming as a whole, it'll all fall in deaf ears. You don't think the game companies all of a sudden decided to be bad do you? This is directly a result of gaming going mainstream. "Back in the day" companies didn't do stuff like this because the few people actually playing games and risking being bullied over it would never have supported such practices, it would've been a financial suicide. I mean, Bethesda is the same company that made Daggerfall and EA is the same company that made MW005.

 

TL;DR Companies have shit business practices nowadays because they have every incentive to do so.

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4 hours ago, Mr.Otaku said:

TL;DR Companies have shit business practices nowadays because they have every incentive to do so.

Having the means to do so also plays a big part. Back in the 90s the larger, sleazier companies couldn't act like this even if they wanted to. Could't do shameless micro-transactions or release a glorified beta you'll patch up later back in an era when the internet was primordial ooze and most gaming platforms didn't have storage devices outside save batteries and tiny memory cards.

 

Then again the arcades could get pretty damn greedy. Though you could almost call them a premium service since they were able to provide games with far more advanced hardware than what the home systems of the time could provide.

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On 1/28/2020 at 7:15 AM, Mr.Otaku said:

This reminds me, the immediate feeling i had after finishing that quest was "that's it?" because really, i was expecting something grander. I mean we're talking about one of the most legendary figures in Skyrim's history and his axe is right there in front of us, you'd think there'd be more to the questline than what we got. The only thing i liked about the Companions questline is Aela to be honest. I didn't feel like there was much of an incentive to become a werewolf either. This is a bigger problem in Skyrim, the special weapons/abilities end up being not so special when i can go craft a Daedric warhammer with insane enchantments that can overpower just about anything in game. The questline just felt rushed and tacked on.

 

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While we're on it, do you know any good mods that makes Skyrim really difficult past, let's say level 50 or something? Cause at that point i just become too overpowered and the temptation to start a new game starts to increase, i'm looking for something that can help keep the game challenging no matter how high my level goes. Anyone else is also welcome to make suggestions. I don't believe this will derail the thread since Bethesda's shortcomings is the highlight of the thread and suggesting mods to fix that falls under the shortcomings umbrella.

So you want challenging gameplay past level 50 in skyrim, which one? Oldrim or SSE? So far I only got Oldrim mods I can recommend, here is what I use in old skyrim.

 

OBIS- Organized Bandits in Skyrim

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31264

Wildcat- Combat of Skyrim

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/76529

Realistic AI Detection (Better Sneaking)

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74355

Duel- Combat Realism

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/2700#

SkyTest Harder Creatures

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12481

Ultimate Dragons

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/55206

Diverse Dragons Collection

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/83559

 

All of these makes the gameplay much more interesting and harder, I might be forgetting two more though

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19 minutes ago, MrEsturk said:

Having the means to do so also plays a big part. Back in the 90s the larger, sleazier companies couldn't act like this even if they wanted to. Can't do shameless micro-transactions or release a glorified beta you'll patch up later back in an era when the internet was primordial ooze and most gaming devices didn't have storage devices outside save batteries and tiny memory cards.

 

Then again the arcades could get pretty damn greedy. Though you could almost call them a premium service since they were able to provide games with far more advanced hardware than what the home systems of the time could provide.

Yeah that's another point. It's just a whole bunch of small things that are making up the issue we have now.

 

5 minutes ago, Zathuul said:

So you want challenging gameplay past level 50 in skyrim, which one? Oldrim or SSE? So far I only got Oldrim mods I can recommend, here is what I use in old skyrim.

 

OBIS- Organized Bandits in Skyrim

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31264

Wildcat- Combat of Skyrim

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/76529

Realistic AI Detection (Better Sneaking)

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74355

Duel- Combat Realism

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/2700#

SkyTest Harder Creatures

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12481

Ultimate Dragons

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/55206

Diverse Dragons Collection

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/83559

I play LE. Never really felt the need to switch to SE. Also thanks man.

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10 minutes ago, Mr.Otaku said:

Yeah that's another point. It's just a whole bunch of small things that are making up the issue we have now.

 

I play LE. Never really felt the need to switch to SE. Also thanks man.

Your welcome.

 

Also same here, I haven't switched to SSE fully, but I have tried once. I prefer Oldrim cause it's easier to mod, maybe it's not as smooth as SSE but I never had an issue with Old skyrim. I'm not even sure how elder scrolls 6 will be like but um... not a good feeling about it

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22 minutes ago, Mr.Otaku said:

Yeah that's another point. It's just a whole bunch of small things that are making up the issue we have now.

 

I play LE. Never really felt the need to switch to SE. Also thanks man.

That's a good list, reminded me of this:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/92874?tab=posts

I didn't see this in there, it's got a few neat features like giving dragons customisable kind of AIs and making them ragdoll when they die, as opposed to flying somewhere to land and then die which is annoying. You can also make it heal you when you absorb a soul, and customise their power levels as well as how shouts work against them.

And a new version of Dragonrend which works slightly differently.

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