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Yueviathan

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40 minutes ago, unmatched baguette said:

Just tested to make sure and it seems I, too, am getting limited, though it persisted even after disabling the extensions so it could either be another extension causing it or it doesn't remove the cap after x hours after it has been triggered, I would strongly suggest using uBlock Origin by the way.
ps. the latter seems to be true, as MO2 would normally download at 2MB/s but is limited to 1MB/s right now

 

Never heard of such issue as a corrupted download due to throttling, it sounds possible, but only if the throttling algorithm is badly written.
As for "taking modders' time to split files", assuming that they have to do it, it takes mere seconds to split a 4gb file using 7zip https://i.imgur.com/Qkn8LbI.png

 

 

Easily fixed by including the file hashes on the download page, so you can be sure the file(s) are intact

Fair take but let me come back to this by replying to the comment below in full.

32 minutes ago, sleacysz said:

1. Modders don't have to split files
2. File corruption is not the issue of the sites but your own connections
3.The restriction doesnt limit your ability to use the site it only limits the maximum capability , you can download files just at a slower rate.
4.If you can't be patient and wait for a service that isn't owed to you then you deserve to not be able to keep your "hobby" ; Nobody has to make mods, nobody has to share them, nobody has to have files on their servers for your entertainment .
5.Again you don't NEED to subscribe, everything is free , and I've waited days for games and longer when my speed was 90kb/s and I understood what I had and what others didn't , waiting for something that's free isn't something ridiculous and most mods are very light.
6. for the 3rd time you don't have to subscribe , prime is another service which is optional , most items have free shipping its just that your impatient so u get prime... its the same concept with nexus.
7.Twitch's model is very different from nexus and are on completely different scales , you cannot compare the two.
8.It is monetizing a (optional) feature , 2mb/s is more then enough for most people and if not the option to subscribe is there.

I have never payed for nexus subscription and the biggest mods I've downloaded are like up to 1-2gb and am fine waiting as it's all FREE. The content is FREE. The ability to download is FREE. How can anyone complain about FREE things ???

Alright let me try to address this one point at a time. 

1. No one is saying they have to but I feel bad the person is taking time to do so out of kindness because people have issues downloading the file in the first place. Its not an issue of they have to its an problem that shouldn't need to exist for the modder to take the time to do something about it. Its good to hear its not a long process and thankful for those that take the time.

2. Exactly, if my connect is very slow to begin with, throttling it doesn't help the matter.

3.Exactly, if you have a slower net or a net that is in and out? If you are only using the site to download content? Throttling will indeed effect your ability to use the site.

4. This is not a patients issue, a service is being provided by people willing to offer that service for people to use freely and a change has been made that will effect those users. Lets not make this what it is not. Nobody has to do anything in life, you either choose to,want to or feel you have to. This is business, if you are offering a service and want many people to be able to use it. I would think it is safe to assume that a change that nerfs that intent is unintended. What I'm talking about isn't the waiting, but the reliability of function for others. If a offer is made blanket to everyone and you notice a nerf that effects many taking up the offer. The nerf has the freedom to be discussed yes?

5. Free does not equal immune to critique.

6. As someone that has lost many shipments due to time constraints of the package delivery ( longer the shipment higher the it gets lost rate I have experienced). Delt with warranties expiring before a package was received to even try. Got deals thanks to prime to make things a lot cheaper so I can even purchase the item. And noticing a quality in safety of the goods compared to free models of delivery. ( I used ebay souly before switching more to amazon as of late and have notice a quality difference) What you have decided is just inpatients on my part, is actually security, guaranteed goods (so far), secure packaging. and time to test things before a warranty expires. In other words making sure the little money I have is guaranteed to not be wasted. Sure I don't have to do this, but that means I open up a higher risk of being ripped off or getting faulty goods or goods being lost in the process. I chose to reduce that risk because can't afford the later, but can't make that choice for everything I use.

7. Twitch is a service that offers free content a viewer can enjoy and or the ability to be a content creator aka streamer themselves. Nexus is doing the same concept. Both programs you can receive the content for free. You can watch a streamer for free, you can download a mod for free. You can participate with the content being offered and or donate, and or follow the content creator. Patreon is practically the subscription button for a creator though separate from nexus. In other words I see no reason why they can't be compared. Hell many content creators even stream.

8. Agreed 2mb so far is enough to download. Speed to download is not optional however it is nerfing a function required to use the site. Lets make an example, lets say a place was offering food, and the people offering food let the people who came with a cart get a basket. The people that didn't was forced to wait, and so they did and the line grew and grew and eventually it was two late to get food or there was nothing left. However the people who had a cart already got food and was able to leave. Now the food was offered for free but clearly the only guaranteed way to get it was if you bought or had a cart, which to someone homeless of just can't afford the cart, long story short they experienced being offer something for free that had a hidden requirement which kinda made it not free. Now this is a more extreme example but what I'm saying I say plain. You can not receive a mod for free if you fail to download it. If you find you need a better speed to receive the mod, that means you need to pay thus the content no longer is free to obtain without fail. 

 

Again my angle is not patients its function, a site designed to download that nerfs the ability to download defeats and or harms its function for others, thus creating a hidden paywall if the situation is bad enough. That si my angle and only angle. I have waited years for some mods to come out, spent over 24hours downloading a mod because my net connection was literally dial up. Patients is not my issue good sir.

 

Now with that said I agree that so far 2mb is fine from what I have experienced so far and so take my bitching concerns with a grain of salt as I agree with you its not that bad at present. However for me seeing this even being a thing is red flag to me for the future as I mentioned and we all know about Photobucket, I worry that future outcome and that is what I'm getting at. Thank you for reading this.

 

27X

27X

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18 hours ago, RomeoZero said:

Strange that nobody has mention about new paid download speed with password update that came with it.You want to download 300mb mod with your default ISP speed ? Nope, pay to remove 2MBs cap.  I guess everybody premium on Nexus. 

Been in place for years.

Grey Cloud

Grey Cloud

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2 hours ago, sleacysz said:

1. Modders don't have to split files
2. File corruption is not the issue of the sites but your own connections
3.The restriction doesnt limit your ability to use the site it only limits the maximum capability , you can download files just at a slower rate.
4.If you can't be patient and wait for a service that isn't owed to you then you deserve to not be able to keep your "hobby" ; Nobody has to make mods, nobody has to share them, nobody has to have files on their servers for your entertainment .
5.Again you don't NEED to subscribe, everything is free , and I've waited days for games and longer when my speed was 90kb/s and I understood what I had and what others didn't , waiting for something that's free isn't something ridiculous and most mods are very light.
6. for the 3rd time you don't have to subscribe , prime is another service which is optional , most items have free shipping its just that your impatient so u get prime... its the same concept with nexus.
7.Twitch's model is very different from nexus and are on completely different scales , you cannot compare the two.
8.It is monetizing a (optional) feature , 2mb/s is more then enough for most people and if not the option to subscribe is there.

I have never payed for nexus subscription and the biggest mods I've downloaded are like up to 1-2gb and am fine waiting as it's all FREE. The content is FREE. The ability to download is FREE. How can anyone complain about FREE things ???

Holy shit. Someone actually talking sense. Not that it will ever catch on, mind you. :classic_smile:

RomeoZero

RomeoZero

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3 hours ago, 27X said:

Been in place for years.

Only after pass update I see now this restriction, never it was for me from the beginning.Maybe, it be due to a member country location, server update on their side, idk. This is unpleasant for my multiple tasks of course.

phillout

phillout

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22 minutes ago, RomeoZero said:

Only after pass update I see now this restriction, never it was for me from the beginning.Maybe, it be due to a member country location, server update on their side, idk. This is unpleasant for my multiple tasks of course.

 

No, it was there for as long as I can remember. They've only added the reminder to the site. Kind of annoying, but nothing criminal.

bm2x

bm2x

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On 11/29/2019 at 12:31 AM, woodsman30 said:

Hacking is a multi billion dollar a year issue security is not a bad thing.

FUCK!  I need to change careers...

Reila

Reila

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To be fair, the new password restrictions are funking bullshrimp.
I've been a nexus member for so long that I no longer remember the email I signed up with. 
I'm a lifetime premiumer.

 

After the recent update, I've already forgotten my new password, so if I ever change computers or clear my login credentials from my browser, I won't be able to recover it without directly asking the mods.

Inte

Inte

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On 12/1/2019 at 2:38 PM, DoctaSax said:

On the reverse side, there's not much chance of people burgling my home so they can make off with a note block.

I use other people's posts as my passwords. 

For example I could use this post as my new password. 

Just copy and paste. No need to keep a password notebook. :classic_wink:

Yueviathan

Yueviathan

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2 hours ago, Inte said:

I use other people's posts as my passwords. 

For example I could use this post as my new password. 

Just copy and paste. No need to keep a password notebook. :classic_wink:

You using my comment as a password? Oh baby, make sure you put some emotes in there, hearts, and the words "hill billy Jenkins" best password ever, also I did some lengthy reading on the net speed issue. While I will always have the stance of just because something is freely provided, doesn't make it immune to questioning and critiquing the service, especially with established features that have been changed unannounced.

 

However I will say this, the situation is not as bad as I feared it was and over all the changes made are understandable given the current weight of traffic nexus is dealing with and perhaps even more ways to try and address these concerns should be discussed. So in saying all this I am saying I was wrong to be so concerned and take issue with the pop up so promptly. So if your out there sleacysz, you was right. I hear you and can man up and own I was wrong.

 

That said the notion of this sense of entitlement because a person is a free user needs to die. Everything, every activity, bills hobbies, everything feels like it is becoming a subscription (and frankly this can be a topic thread of it own) . Trust me when I say the over whelming pressure of everything trying to nickle and dime you money you don't have or terms of service changing to take benefits from you , you previously had.

 

The pressure and feeling attacked and vexed by these changes because can't keep up with it or do anything about it or even be told about it aside from pay up and being looked down upon because you can't. It creates a bad atmosphere and generalizes a situation unfairly. Nobody should feel entitled to shared free content, but that is not (at least in my case) what this was.

 

This was fear that something I love to do for years has become harder or will eventually be completely pay gated away, and then experiencing again something I love being taken away because not having the money. Going threw that cycle enough times gets old and makes any signs of this feel discouraging and make you feel vexed by the companies.

 

That said my knee jerk reaction to this premature info was not correct and for that I apologize. For what its worth I hope nexus can keep on trucking, because the content....No, the art people have made and shared. What I learned from it and hope it has shaped my game in inspired me to do this on my own. Has done more for me then I can ever express. My wallet falls short in showing this gratitude, but I don't want my words to. Much love and thank you for this discussion. ❤️

RomeoZero

RomeoZero

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8 hours ago, phillout said:

 

No, it was there for as long as I can remember. They've only added the reminder to the site. Kind of annoying, but nothing criminal.

Nope, I'm using IDM (Internet Download Manager) for 12 years, with max dwn speed of my ISP on 32~24 server connections, and only on Nexus after update its a 2MBs cap for archives that I noticed their banner.Any files with 4+ GB data is 65 seconds time for me to download.

phillout

phillout

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22 minutes ago, RomeoZero said:

Nope, I'm using IDM (Internet Download Manager) for 12 years, with max dwn speed of my ISP on 32~24 server connections, and only on Nexus after update its a 2MBs cap for archives that I noticed their banner.Any files with 4+ GB data is 65 seconds time for me to download.

This is from 2018:

 

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Since 2007, Nexus Mods has had a download speed cap of 1MB a second on all downloads unless the user is a Premium Member. Starting this week, this download speed cap has been increased to 2MB a second if certain criteria are met.

 

DarkZephyr

DarkZephyr

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I have experienced no downgrade in my download speeds.  And as Phillout has pointed out, the only cap change that has been implemented (and it was *over a year ago*) was an *increase* if you are a supporter and don't use an ad-blocker.  This is a *free increase* in download speed by an entire megabyte.  Otherwise the cap is identical to what its always been since 2007. 

 

Anyway, I just wanted to throw it out there that the 2FA that the OP was complaining about is *optional*.  I have not chosen to employ it.  And when I had to update my password, all I had to do was add one extra character to the one I was already using.  Not that big of a deal.

Guest

Guest

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I'm thorned by a dilemma: to release or not to release?

Yesterday I've came accross a post by a user called "Gorgulla" in the Nexus, which said he receives less than 10% endorsements from all the downloads of his stuff on the Nexus. I noticed I received the same input from the images I post there. His post was from 2016 and he didnt release anything since 2017, he just abandoned ship. I didnt experimented his content but it looked like quality content.

 

My follower mod is on a advanced stage: they each have a exclusive perk, and lines of dialogue. I also made new npc enemies and added them to the levelled lists. I even created a drain spell which I didnt saw in any other mod before.

The dialogue is causing a plot which can lead to a quest which might require Beyond Skyrim. If not available, I will have to make a entire town myself. Dont even know how to make it, I'm bad with navmeshes.

On the other side, the Forgotten Dungeons Overhaul is also developing. Yesterday Mihail gave me permission to use his monsters on it. I've put several new ambushes, new spawn points, and half the content is already done. When I add some of his monsters, it will be a blast.

Then I still have my own bodyslide to release.

 

But after reading Gorgulla post yesterday, and after the harassment on Reddit today, where I was flagged for asking for a hug animation, I ask myself if I should release the content, when I finish it, or if I should just keep it for myself.

How do you, more experienced modders, deal with it?

Did you ever felt it before?

The SAM mod I downloaded from here. It is not available in the SSE Nexus.

 

The toxic players who try to undermine your work, they certainly dont deserve it.

But what about the others? What about those who want to start modding, and are inspired by your releases?

Would we have the Nexus if people kept all of it to themselves?

RomeoZero

RomeoZero

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12 hours ago, phillout said:

 

11 hours ago, DarkZephyr said:

 

I see,than this is strictly applied to member countries I believe , as I have never been on dwnl cap before on Nexus. Guess its time for mine now.  

 

RomeoZero

RomeoZero

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12 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said:

I'm thorned by a dilemma: to release or not to release?

 

Not on Nexus for sure if you don't want the headache.All the noobs making mods are welcome to experience Nexus but the vets are all gone from there and have operating account here. 
I have experienced that and even harassment from admins be it a picture or a work that I shared,they don't even care if your an author and strike for a copyright claim for a user there.

But that's off topic.

Guest

Guest

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Just now, RomeoZero said:

Not on Nexus for sure if you don't want the headache.All the noobs making mods are welcome to experience Nexus but the vets are all gone from there and have operating account here. 
I have experienced that and even harassment from admins be it a picture or a work that I shared,they don't even care if your an author and strike for a copyright claim for a user there.

But that's off topic.

 

This copyright issue is also a source of concern. If I release the mod elsewhere, and some troll upload it to the Nexus and claims it for himself, I know there will be nothing I could do about it.

I was thinking if set the mod to hidden could prevent it, though. I release the mod, wait one week, then hidden it. The title will still be there, but nobody will be able to download it.

MaidoLover

MaidoLover

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6 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said:

I know there will be nothing I could do about it.

That is correct because you don't own this mod... It's literally not your property.  All you can do is hold it ransom if you feel like it.  ~

DoctaSax

DoctaSax

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25 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said:

 

This copyright issue is also a source of concern. If I release the mod elsewhere, and some troll upload it to the Nexus and claims it for himself, I know there will be nothing I could do about it.

I was thinking if set the mod to hidden could prevent it, though. I release the mod, wait one week, then hidden it. The title will still be there, but nobody will be able to download it.

You can't keep mods hidden forever, or Nexus will assume you're just using the upload as a private backup, which is not what the site is for.

If you were to release elsewhere and someone puts your stuff on Nexus without your say-so, you can, in fact, contact their staff to take it down. It's been done before, you know. Although they obviously can make a mistake from time to time, nobody's calling Nexus a piracy site.

Then again, you could always put it on nexus yourself, there's no harm in it (and LL doesn't mind ;) )

Ankahet

Ankahet

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44 minutes ago, MaidoLover said:

??? Are you sure.  Non I know of then lol (or use)

 

You also have no idea what sites I use, am a member of and such, so...

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