Patch for animations (Squirt/Cum Effects, cum overlays, stages, fixes)

[rubber_duck]

5 minutes ago, Indarello said:

You are using mod manager? Use vortex mod manager, it will take 10 sec to install/disable/uninstall/change priority for mod

No, I'm afraid I don't use mod manager. I guess I'm one of those few to do all things the old fashioned way lol

Seriously, I install all my mods manually.. Been doing that for the past 3 years and never experienced issues

[Indarello]

1 minute ago, roten_man said:

No, I'm afraid I don't use mod manager. I guess I'm one of those few to do all things the old fashioned way lol

Seriously, I install all my mods manually.. Been doing that for the past 3 years and never experienced issues

You will be surprised how easy and fast this process with vortex

[maddadicusrex]

57 minutes ago, roten_man said:

Yeah, well forget it. I give up.. Now I'm stuck and for the past few hours I've been trying to restore everything but no luck.. Looks like I'll have to reinstall the game and star all over again lol

Thanks for trying, I appreciate it..

Also, I'm 99% sure that I don't have any mod conflicts. I've been using SavageCabbage patch for nearly 2 months and worked like a charm. I have no idea what's with this one.

Anyways, take care!

The stuck at 30% is an AAF 133 thing. He changed the way XML'S are being handled. I had same issue, but was able to go back to AAF 121 which still worked with the old system. I then looked at AAF Up to Date Adult oriented setup guide and followed that to the letter. I even was able to keep this mod version 7.0 and everything loads up and works with AAF 133. I use Vortex. Any mod that adds XMLS, changes XMLS will now screw with newer AAF versions. If you do not dump them, then you will be stuck at 30%. So be stubborn or go home..The new way of doing things has passed the oldtimers by and we adapt or play something else...

 

[rubber_duck]

16 minutes ago, maddadicusrex said:

The stuck at 30% is an AAF 133 thing. He changed the way XML'S are being handled. I had same issue, but was able to go back to AAF 121 which still worked with the old system. I then looked at AAF Up to Date Adult oriented setup guide and followed that to the letter. I even was able to keep this mod version 7.0 and everything loads up and works with AAF 133. I use Vortex. Any mod that adds XMLS, changes XMLS will now screw with newer AAF versions. If you do not dump them, then you will be stuck at 30%. So be stubborn or go home..The new way of doing things has passed the oldtimers by and we adapt or play something else...

 

Whoa whoa, hold it there my comrade.. I followed these Up-to-date steps before, when everything worked flawlessly.. So what you're saying is that I must NOT have the most recent AAF? ATM, I have beta 133, and before that I think I used 114.. idk..

 

[maddadicusrex]

12 minutes ago, roten_man said:

Whoa whoa, hold it there my comrade.. I followed these Up-to-date steps before, when everything worked flawlessly.. So what you're saying is that I must NOT have the most recent AAF? ATM, I have beta 133, and before that I think I used 114.. idk..

 

No, AAF 114, 110, 117 all will work with the updated animation mods, but AAF 133 will not. Did AAF 133 load up without this mod? 

These are all supposed to be removed from your load order. Maybe you still have leftover bits of these mods in your system?

Also, I still use Immersive Lovers Embrace and everything works fine..sooooooooooooooooooo?

1. ANYTHING Four-Play, except Leito and Crazy animations
2. One Patch to RULE Them All
3. Dongs of Fallout
4. AJ's XMLs
5. Polistiro's AAF patches for Crazy and Leito Animations
6. Gendered Specific Skeleton
7. CBBE KneeFix
8. Race Customizer
9. ZaZOut
10. VIS / VIS-G (Valdalcil's Item Sorting)
11. Unique NPCs
12. aSexMod (Can't believe i have to add this but people still download it..)
13. Immersive Lover's Embrace

[rubber_duck]

34 minutes ago, maddadicusrex said:

No, AAF 114, 110, 117 all will work with the updated animation mods, but AAF 133 will not. Did AAF 133 load up without this mod? 

These are all supposed to be removed from your load order. Maybe you still have leftover bits of these mods in your system?

Also, I still use Immersive Lovers Embrace and everything works fine..sooooooooooooooooooo?

1. ANYTHING Four-Play, except Leito and Crazy animations
2. One Patch to RULE Them All
3. Dongs of Fallout
4. AJ's XMLs
5. Polistiro's AAF patches for Crazy and Leito Animations
6. Gendered Specific Skeleton
7. CBBE KneeFix
8. Race Customizer
9. ZaZOut
10. VIS / VIS-G (Valdalcil's Item Sorting)
11. Unique NPCs
12. aSexMod (Can't believe i have to add this but people still download it..)
13. Immersive Lover's Embrace

ATM (I haven't started the game yet), I have AAF 133. I had Polistiro's AAF patches, but I think I've overwrited them when applying the other patch. Other than that, everything's fine.

Again, here's the list:

*AAF.esm
*FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
CumNWealth.esp
*FO4HHS_AAF.esp
*CumOverlays.esp
*AAF_Violate.esp
*AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp
*AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp
*RSE_II_CSA.esp
*AFVPurgatory.esp
*AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
*AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
*rxl_bp70_animations.esp
*AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
*MagnoCumGaudio.esp
*Devious Devices.esm
*SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
*TortureDevices.esm
*Rogg DD Items Manager.esp
*Animated_Fannies.esp
*Farelle_Animations.esp
*RSE_II_Resources.esm
*RealHandcuffs.esp
*DangerousNights.esp
*Beggar_Whore.esp
*GetDirty.esp
*AAF_Dirty_Sex.esp
*AAF_SEU.esp
*Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
*Atomic Lust.esp
*Mutated Lust.esp
*Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
*CWSS Redux.esp
*SlaveTattoos.esp
*TatsAfterRape.esp
*dcc-bp-lol.esp
*GrayUserBPAnimations.esp

 

Btw, are you on Steam? I think it'd be much easier if we 'discussed' this issue there since it's easier to reply..

[maddadicusrex]

1 hour ago, roten_man said:

ATM (I haven't started the game yet), I have AAF 133. I had Polistiro's AAF patches, but I think I've overwrited them when applying the other patch. Other than that, everything's fine.

Again, here's the list:

*AAF.esm
*FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
CumNWealth.esp
*FO4HHS_AAF.esp
*CumOverlays.esp
*AAF_Violate.esp
*AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp
*AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp
*RSE_II_CSA.esp
*AFVPurgatory.esp
*AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
*AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
*rxl_bp70_animations.esp
*AAF_BadEnd_Animations.esp
*MagnoCumGaudio.esp
*Devious Devices.esm
*SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
*TortureDevices.esm
*Rogg DD Items Manager.esp
*Animated_Fannies.esp
*Farelle_Animations.esp
*RSE_II_Resources.esm
*RealHandcuffs.esp
*DangerousNights.esp
*Beggar_Whore.esp
*GetDirty.esp
*AAF_Dirty_Sex.esp
*AAF_SEU.esp
*Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
*Atomic Lust.esp
*Mutated Lust.esp
*Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
*CWSS Redux.esp
*SlaveTattoos.esp
*TatsAfterRape.esp
*dcc-bp-lol.esp
*GrayUserBPAnimations.esp

 

Btw, are you on Steam? I think it'd be much easier if we 'discussed' this issue there since it's easier to reply..

I do not communicate on Steam. Hate going there for fear I will bypass my do not auto update command. Quick glance Beggar has had problems with AAF 133 and may itself be blocking installation. CWSS causes so many issues with so many mods and because it adds animation XMLS, could block AAF install. Is the One Patch to Bang Them somewhere in there?

 

 

I am an Idiott. You could just private message me here by clicking on my Avatar..

[rubber_duck]

23 minutes ago, maddadicusrex said:

I do not communicate on Steam. Hate going there for fear I will bypass my do not auto update command. Quick glance Beggar has had problems with AAF 133 and may itself be blocking installation. CWSS causes so many issues with so many mods and because it adds animation XMLS, could block AAF install. Is the One Patch to Bang Them somewhere in there?

 

 

I am an Idiott. You could just private message me here by clicking on my Avatar..

No you're not. I forgot about that as well lol

Anyways, I've sent you a message!

[Saya Scarlett]

7 hours ago, maddadicusrex said:

No, AAF 114, 110, 117 all will work with the updated animation mods, but AAF 133 will not. Did AAF 133 load up without this mod? 

These are all supposed to be removed from your load order. Maybe you still have leftover bits of these mods in your system?

Also, I still use Immersive Lovers Embrace and everything works fine..sooooooooooooooooooo?

1. ANYTHING Four-Play, except Leito and Crazy animations
2. One Patch to RULE Them All
3. Dongs of Fallout
4. AJ's XMLs
5. Polistiro's AAF patches for Crazy and Leito Animations
6. Gendered Specific Skeleton
7. CBBE KneeFix
8. Race Customizer
9. ZaZOut
10. VIS / VIS-G (Valdalcil's Item Sorting)
11. Unique NPCs
12. aSexMod (Can't believe i have to add this but people still download it..)
13. Immersive Lover's Embrace

Seems to be fucking up something. We had a case were removing it completely fixed AAF hanging on 30%.

I'll probably try it myself and see what's wrong and remove it if it works.

Most absolute incompatibilities from that list is upto 12. Anything below it's being revised. I'll add a note later.

[Saya Scarlett]

7 hours ago, maddadicusrex said:

The stuck at 30% is an AAF 133 thing. He changed the way XML'S are being handled. I had same issue, but was able to go back to AAF 121 which still worked with the old system. I then looked at AAF Up to Date Adult oriented setup guide and followed that to the letter. I even was able to keep this mod version 7.0 and everything loads up and works with AAF 133. I use Vortex. Any mod that adds XMLS, changes XMLS will now screw with newer AAF versions. If you do not dump them, then you will be stuck at 30%. So be stubborn or go home..The new way of doing things has passed the oldtimers by and we adapt or play something else...

 

"Any mod that adds XMLS, changes XMLS will now screw with newer AAF versions."

 

That's ALWAYS been the case. Install previous versions of AAF and install things like AAF Crazy & Leito Patches or AJ's XMLs on this exact setup and see what happens.

 

And i'll mention another thing while i'm at it.

This patch (as far as i'm aware, if it's been changed i have not been told) uses backwards morph values and that's why Silver's Erection Fix was created.

Silver had to make a Patch for THIS Patch but since Silver's ghoul and wolf assets have now been added to both UAP and AAF Creature Patch, neither are needed for AAF to work.

If Indarello changes the morph values to the ones actually being used BY EVERYONE ELSE and maybe removes the "Remove Theme Tags" option (WHY IS THIS EVEN THERE?) i'll consider adding it back to the list.

Other than that.. Cum Overlays? Mod by @Nebuchadnezzer2. Tattoos After Rape? Mod by @twistedtrebla.

[maddadicusrex]

2 minutes ago, Saya_Scarlett said:

Seems to be fucking up something. We had a case were removing it completely fixed AAF hanging on 30%.

I'll probably try it myself and see what's wrong and remove it if it works.

Most absolute incompatibilities from that list is upto 12. Anything below it's being revised. I'll add a note later.

You are doing good work, but gamers today ,do not even read instructions, avoid written warnings, download 150 plus mods without thinking and cry foul when nothing works. ?

[Indarello]

2 hours ago, Saya_Scarlett said:

"Any mod that adds XMLS, changes XMLS will now screw with newer AAF versions."

 

That's ALWAYS been the case. Install previous versions of AAF and install things like AAF Crazy & Leito Patches or AJ's XMLs on this exact setup and see what happens.

 

And i'll mention another thing while i'm at it.

This patch (as far as i'm aware, if it's been changed i have not been told) uses backwards morph values and that's why Silver's Erection Fix was created.

Silver had to make a Patch for THIS Patch but since Silver's ghoul and wolf assets have now been added to both UAP and AAF Creature Patch, neither are needed for AAF to work.

If Indarello changes the morph values to the ones actually being used BY EVERYONE ELSE and maybe removes the "Remove Theme Tags" option (WHY IS THIS EVEN THERE?) i'll consider adding it back to the list.

Other than that.. Cum Overlays? Mod by @Nebuchadnezzer2. Tattoos After Rape? Mod by @twistedtrebla.

I use always erect, not backwards and about tags you can read in main post:

Spoiler

Remove theme tags

This option will remove theme tags from animation positions that are used in this patch

For theme VanillaSexAnimations, Kinky/Aggressive and CreatureSexAnimations
Since some tags is wrong in this theme, I recommend to use this option

I make all tags myself

 

Tattoos After Rape is better solution because, I cant apply race dependent or a certain amount of tattoo. Only one when last stage come. Also I have not updated list of them

But Cum overlays is better from my side because I change them for each group of animations. Like if I see that actor finished in mouth = no overlays and so on

[NoJoker]

5 hours ago, Indarello said:

I use always erect, not backwards and about tags you can read in main post:

  Reveal hidden contents

Remove theme tags

This option will remove theme tags from animation positions that are used in this patch

For theme VanillaSexAnimations, Kinky/Aggressive and CreatureSexAnimations
Since some tags is wrong in this theme, I recommend to use this option

I make all tags myself

 

Tattoos After Rape is better solution because, I cant apply race dependent or a certain amount of tattoo. Only one when last stage come. Also I have not updated list of them

But Cum overlays is better from my side because I change them for each group of animations. Like if I see that actor finished in mouth = no overlays and so on

This patch needs to be fixed for the following otherwise it directly conflicts everything the community is trying to do in order to make Fallout 4 adult modding a better and more accessible experience.

 

1. Stop using outdated/always erect morph values, nobody is using this backwards morph values anymore. You are doing things that are completely the opposite the community is trying to do. Thus more potential patches are needed for NO reason.

2. Stop removing tags from Themes, everyone else is using original themes tags and you create another theme tag which completely nullify the updated tags. Which potentially creates another huge headache for other mod authors or even users.

3. No need for tattoos anymore, Tattoos After Rape does better.

4. Scripted Cum Overlay will become better in the future, which is a far better solution than the patch.

 

[blibby]

Updated to 7.0   Everything worked.   Updated to 7.2.   Stuck at 30%.  3 warnings about timing in kissing animations being too short, and one missing dance animation.  F-Dance01 - 01HipShakeStart.  Caller[STAGE_NODE : (NO_ID)].

 

Is that a savagecabbage animation?  Maybe just re-install that?

[Indarello]

11 minutes ago, NoJoker said:

This patch needs to be fixed for the following otherwise it directly conflicts everything the community is trying to do in order to make Fallout 4 adult modding a better and more accessible experience.

 

1. Stop using outdated/always erect morph values, nobody is using this backwards morph values anymore. You are doing things that are completely the opposite the community is trying to do. Thus more potential patches are needed for NO reason.

2. Stop removing tags from Themes, everyone else is using original themes tags and you create another theme tag which completely nullify the updated tags. Which potentially creates another huge headache for other mod authors or even users.

3. No need for tattoos anymore, Tattoos After Rape does better.

4. Scripted Cum Overlay will become better in the future, which is a far better solution than the patch.

 

1)No, this is what I like

2,3,4 I already answered this in previous post, you can select no overlays, tattoos, tags in fomod. My tags are better

[Indarello]

5 minutes ago, blibby said:

Updated to 7.0   Everything worked.   Updated to 7.2.   Stuck at 30%.  3 warnings about timing in kissing animations being too short, and one missing dance animation.  F-Dance01 - 01HipShakeStart.  Caller[STAGE_NODE : (NO_ID)].

 

Is that a savagecabbage animation?  Maybe just re-install that?

Search for this F-Dance01 - 01HipShakeStart

How to search 

And send me Results

[blibby]

1 hour ago, Indarello said:

Search for this F-Dance01 - 01HipShakeStart

How to search 

And send me Results

 \AAF\SavageCabbage_animationGroup.xml (1 hit) 

 Line5   <stage animation="F-Dance01-01HipShakeStart"/>

 

EDIT - I removed that dance animation group and it then found another missing animation.   I guess my question would be.   What version of SavageCabbage do I need to use this mod.   I currently have 1.2.2.

[Indarello]

1 hour ago, blibby said:

 \AAF\SavageCabbage_animationGroup.xml (1 hit) 

 Line5   <stage animation="F-Dance01-01HipShakeStart"/>

 

EDIT - I removed that dance animation group and it then found another missing animation.   I guess my question would be.   What version of SavageCabbage do I need to use this mod.   I currently have 1.2.2.

1.2.2

But looks like you have some patch for SavageCabbage animations that I don't know

Can you send mod list or find from what patch "SavageCabbage_animationGroup.xml" file comes

 

[Saya Scarlett]

8 hours ago, Indarello said:

1º I use always erect

2º This is what I like

3º Since some tags is wrong in this theme

1º That IS backwards. @SilverPerv had to make a PATCH FOR YOUR PATCH so erections would actually work.

 

2º That attitude is exactly what is wrong with this entire community. That's what you like but not what it works for everyone, just for you.

 

3º Uh, no.

 

In any case, i used your patch myself for months, only because Silver made a patch for yours so it wouldn't fuck everything up.

You know what your patch is good for? STRESS. Because all the people that fuck up their setups with your patch, WE deal with in AAF's Discord and have to fix the issues that your patch creates.

But i'm sorry to say that with 1º Wrong morphs and 2º That attitude, it's only going to be listed in our AAF Guide as incompatible to get AAF to work properly.

Silver's assets for creatures have even been added to Ulf's UAP and AAF Creature Resources so there's no need for either Silver's or your patch.

Have a good day.

[cowhippo]

Attempting to troubleshoot issues caused by this patch cause so much dam stress 

[blibby]

I believe it is this mod.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=771460

 

Thank you for your easy to follow help.

 

All is working now.  

[Indarello]

26 minutes ago, Saya_Scarlett said:

1º That IS backwards. @SilverPerv had to make a PATCH FOR YOUR PATCH so erections would actually work.

 

2º That attitude is exactly what is wrong with this entire community. That's what you like but not what it works for everyone, just for you.

 

3º Uh, no.

 

In any case, i used your patch myself for months, only because Silver made a patch for yours so it wouldn't fuck everything up.

You know what your patch is good for? STRESS. Because all the people that fuck up their setups with your patch, WE deal with in AAF's Discord and have to fix the issues that your patch creates.

But i'm sorry to say that with 1º Wrong morphs and 2º That attitude, it's only going to be listed in our AAF Guide as incompatible to get AAF to work properly.

Silver's assets for creatures have even been added to Ulf's UAP and AAF Creature Resources so there's no need for either Silver's or your patch.

Have a good day.

1)I haven’t written anywhere that problems with my mod should be solved on AAF Discord. If somebody have problems I will answer here 

2)I think modding is just for fun. I made mod for me and then I realized that it worth to share. So I added a bit of optional settings for more variations for user tastes and preferences. But like other mods it is for you to decide to use it or not. Don't like? Don't use or don't add to your guide. That is for you to decide

3)If helping people make you stress I don't know why you create guides, or maybe you need to take a break. You are here for you own interest, right? Why do you perceive it as work

[Saya Scarlett]

1 minute ago, Indarello said:

1)I haven’t written anywhere that problems with my mod should be solved on AAF Discord. If somebody have problems I will answer here 

2)I think modding is just for fun. I made mod for me and then I realized that it worth to share. So I added a bit of optional settings for more variations for user tastes and preferences. But like other mods it is for you to decide to use it or not.

3)If helping people make you stress I don't know why you create guides, or maybe you need to take a break. You are here for you own interest, right? Why do you perceive it as work

Helping people doesn't cause me stress. I enjoy it, otherwise i wouldn't do it.

Your patch on the other hand, that's an entire can of worms of its own.

But you do you sir, you do you.

[Indarello]

6 minutes ago, Saya_Scarlett said:

an entire can of worms

 

No. My mod is art and it will be even more beautiful with time

[Nebuchadnezzer2]

  

Right.

I try and avoid disputing, directly contradicting, or otherwise arguing (/"calling out") other authors and their mods, and it's one reason I've avoided the support thread for your patch almost entirely, despite using it now and then.
I might come on a bit strong and borderline confrontational (ask Tentacus in his Hardship thread) if I'm irritated at the time, however, it's not my responsibility, nor do I want to "police" what others do with their mods, it's their damn work after all.

But what you're doing, choices you're deliberately making, are seemingly intentionally making life difficult for anyone that isn't you, and a lot of it is pretty fucking easily changed, but you seem absolutely intent on doing whatever you like, and fuck the rest of the community and any 'collective' decisions that have been made.

The crap with your 'included body' is just one of the more egregious choices, and can be changed in ~half an hour max, to the ~year-long 'standard' (conservative guess, closer to 2 by now), with a bit of RegEx to adjust the XML's to match.
One of the others I had an issue with was the haphazard dismantling and restitching of author's animations, including outright disabling several animations.
Explained a bit, when I discovered a few cases of that among the XML's.

2 hours ago, Indarello said:

1)No, this is what I like

2,3,4 I already answered this in previous post, you can select no overlays, tattoos, tags in fomod. My tags are better

Overlays, people can choose, I'll give you that, same with the Tatt's.

The Theme Tags removal on the other hand, is ridiculous.
If there's any disagreements or suggestions for changing or adding/removing certain tags from the Themes, Halstrom is open to suggestion on them, they're a 'community-managed' tag list, after all (though in future, they'll likely be Anim author's responsibility).
On top of which, they're also rather thorough, if a little limited, in what's included.

20 hours ago, Indarello said:

You also have "AAF patch for leito and crazy fomod v3.2"?

I will release update with blank files for this mod, for now you can temporary disable it

That, is also not a solution, that's a hack-job workaround for a problem that shouldn't exist, but that's more down to people finding that patch listed as "required" elsewhere, not really your doing.
Blank file overwrites should be avoided anyway, it's part of the reason the One Patch can be problematic.

8 hours ago, Indarello said:

I use always erect, not backwards and about tags you can read in main post:

  Reveal hidden contents

Remove theme tags

This option will remove theme tags from animation positions that are used in this patch

For theme VanillaSexAnimations, Kinky/Aggressive and CreatureSexAnimations
Since some tags is wrong in this theme, I recommend to use this option

I make all tags myself

 

Tattoos After Rape is better solution because, I cant apply race dependent or a certain amount of tattoo. Only one when last stage come. Also I have not updated list of them

But Cum overlays is better from my side because I change them for each group of animations. Like if I see that actor finished in mouth = no overlays and so on

Not directly an issue, but wanted to touch on Overlays, since I did whip up a scripted solution, after all.
For some, very specific use cases, like the one you mentioned, it's occasionally a 'better' solution to set (or not set) overlays via XML, but that's also something I can configure with the script for the overlays, even so far as to specify certain tag/keyword exclusions/inclusions, and it's not reliant on patches such as yours, to update as Authors update, since it uses tags. But, I digress.


In similar fashion as Trykz's odd removal/re-upload of his Droids of the Commonwealth 'patch', it's still your 'mod', but what you're doing is divisive and makes no damn sense, and simply adds confusion and extra troubleshooting for everyone.
But hey, if you wanna spend more time troubleshooting others' setups with your patch, be my fucking guest.

18 minutes ago, Indarello said:

No. My mod is art and it will be even more beautiful with time

And I find that one actually hilarious. ?