AAF HARDSHIP - beggar- whore -

[Tentacus]

33 minutes ago, Sagebrush61 said:

Older, good looking enough to appeal, there should be something there to draw his  victim into his orbit. Maybe something like Gage in Nukaworld - a smarter than average Raider.  As to consensual or not, how about something semi-consensual with Stockholm syndrome added. Nora didn't really take charge of the Raiders in Nukaworld by choice. Just as a hypothetical exercise which is totally not going to happen, right?

Yeah... Gage is pretty close to what I had in mind. Speaking of... This is what my overboss looked like so maybe close to this guy?

 

   

 

   

 

   

 

BTW: Those were taken way back when Crazy's gun/rugs were the only sex option

[Tentacus]

12 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

I'm using Vortex and it hasn't complained about any file conflicts between this mod and AAF (or any other mod I'm using for that matter). The next version sounds like it will probably conflict with Devious Devices over the DixiePig makeshift slave collar.

I'd have to check but I think DD uses different paths. It should only conflict with DixiePig's own original release... and not in a particularly bad way.

[Tentacus]

24 minutes ago, JBpy said:

Yeah, it should be different from Raymond and the other guy. I like the idea of a Raider (barbaric, like you say). An older man, because young people do not impose so much authority nor should they have too much experience. And should demand a higher percentage of profit. Like 85%... And if the girl doesn't get the minimum, he keeps everything ...

I like this idea, though if I go the actual slavery route (which I am leaning toward) I'd have him just take it all, and only give out food, water and "gifts" like chems and booze. Maybe even withold food if the player displeases him. Of course if I do all this I might make it an expansion pack  with it's own ESP and requirements. I was already thinking of doing an addon to have NPC prostitutes that would be competition to the player (Or hired by the player) Anyway we'll see. This is just daydreaming. I need to get back to working on 1.0.7.

[vaultbait]

6 minutes ago, Tentacus said:

I'd have him just take it all, and only give out food, water and "gifts" like chems and booze. Maybe even withold food if the player displeases him.

Sounds ideal to me. I expect I'll much prefer him over the existing pimps (not that they aren't also great, but I'm not that into the female pimp scenarios and the men are a bit too businesslike). I mostly just stick to the bad boyfriend at the moment, and I guess he would be sort of like a bad boyfriend on overdrive.

[SAC]

Thank you, I am grateful for the work you're putting into this. Threesomes would be great, of course, whenever you're ready - yes, the AAF "scene" is a bit of a fragmented mess.

 

A question about Raymond the pimp: I believed I had to report to him daily, "or else"? However, I just waltzed in after a few days and he never raised an eyebrow, he just took the caps. I was hoping for a solid beating and rape, or some kind of suitable punishment for being late to report in.

 

[Revora]

Hi! Is this compatible with M.C.G. (Extended Social Interactions) -mod? 

[Tentacus]

1 hour ago, SAC said:

Thank you, I am grateful for the work you're putting into this. Threesomes would be great, of course, whenever you're ready - yes, the AAF "scene" is a bit of a fragmented mess.

 

A question about Raymond the pimp: I believed I had to report to him daily, "or else"? However, I just waltzed in after a few days and he never raised an eyebrow, he just took the caps. I was hoping for a solid beating and rape, or some kind of suitable punishment for being late to report in.

 

Nah, I intentionally left the necessity of reporting back to the pimp unregulated. This is to allow for maximum freedom in roleplaying. The only time you can really get in trouble for taking off for a long period is if you take the loan from one pimp to pay off another then skip town for more than a few days... and only then if you actually come back.  I'd consider changing this if enough people want it though. 

 

BTW: I didn't realize at first that you are the one that made that old expereimental noose mod. Good stuff. I'll have to try the newer version sometime.

 

23 minutes ago, Revora said:

Hi! Is this compatible with M.C.G. (Extended Social Interactions) -mod? 

I haven't tried that mod so can't say for sure. As long as it doesn't completely hijack vanilla dialogue with no way to turn it off, it's probably fine.

[Cataclysimz]

3 hours ago, Tentacus said:

Hypothetically... If I were to do a male Dom/Master pimp. What would you want from him? I've got my own tastes and ideas of course, but I'd like some input. One thing I know I don't want to do is make him a gender swapped carbon copy of Isabel. 

 

Older, Younger, Handsome or Rough edged... Consensual like Isabel or actual slavery? Raider or Civillized, etc..? Both the existing male pimps are pretty civilized so I'd probably prefer something more barbaric. 

Older and handsome! I'd prefer him to be more on the barbaric side.   

[ZTK220]

2 hours ago, vaultbait said:

I'm using Vortex and it hasn't complained about any file conflicts between this mod and AAF (or any other mod I'm using for that matter). The next version sounds like it will probably conflict with Devious Devices over the DixiePig makeshift slave collar.

Might be just AAF at it again. Fuck, if one thing gets fixed then something breaks. Time to work under the hood again.

[Folfie]

Hey, I installed this mod recently and, well, when I activate it, raiders and gunners still attack me 100% of the time even if I have guns holstered. The dialouge works, but when they say "let's find some place private", they don't move nor do anything, reseting the whole thing. Is there a way to fix it?

Thanks

 

EDIT: This also shows whenever I start the game, what does it mean?

[Tentacus]

1 hour ago, Folfie said:

Hey, I installed this mod recently and, well, when I activate it, raiders and gunners still attack me 100% of the time even if I have guns holstered. The dialouge works, but when they say "let's find some place private", they don't move nor do anything, reseting the whole thing. Is there a way to fix it?

Thanks

 

EDIT: This also shows whenever I start the game, what does it mean?

 

You need a working and tested copy of AAF to play this mod. F4SE is one of AAF's requirements.  I suggest you look into a guide to set AAF up before you try any AAF mods. That accounts for none of the sex stuff working.

 

As for the raiders you have to be in Beggar Whore mode for the holstering to work. You should get a message that says "You appear non threatening" when you holster. Also there are a very few areas where raiders will always attack. Inside the Combat Zone for instance. I can't remember if Concorde is one as well.

[SAC]

2 hours ago, Tentacus said:

BTW: I didn't realize at first that you are the one that made that old expereimental noose mod. Good stuff. I'll have to try the newer version sometime.

 

Yes, I am. Thank you  I would be happy to see it integrated into a story-telling mod, I consider it a free resource to anyone who wants to integrate or improve upon it in any way

 

 

 

[Clegane]

Concord raiders are respomding to beggar-whore just fine!

[Qalefir]

You convinced me to reinstall the game. M did a rp like that in New Vegas years ago, your mod makes me want to try it in Fallout 4.

Great idea and great presentation.

[Purify]

12 hours ago, Tentacus said:

Hypothetically... If I were to do a male Dom/Master pimp. What would you want from him? I've got my own tastes and ideas of course, but I'd like some input. One thing I know I don't want to do is make him a gender swapped carbon copy of Isabel. 

 

Older, Younger, Handsome or Rough edged... Consensual like Isabel or actual slavery? Raider or Civillized, etc..? Both the existing male pimps are pretty civilized so I'd probably prefer something more barbaric. 

Maybe an Enclave o Legion remnant? A ex-officer old and defeated who sees the weak PC like an opportunity to climb back to his top game. This can be used to justify the long run when the PC stop being that weak low level vault dweller (this is FO4 after all, you cant stay weak for a long time) and end up joining some of the factions of the game.

 

The Pimp/Master/Owner could use the mental and physical abuse to create the pshycological dependency that explains why the PC remains under his control while growing stronger and also explains why he lets the player join a faction and gather power and allies. Its all part of his plan to be a big player again.

 

Just my two cents.

 

Edit: Or maybe a Joker-like character who doesn't care much about the money a its more about control and transform the player character (and an excuse to  use Captive tattoos) I think this ideas are less dependant on a low level PC and help with the roleplay in long playthrough-

[Tentacus]

2 hours ago, Purify said:

Edit: Or maybe a Joker-like character who doesn't care much about the money a its more about control and transform the player character (and an excuse to  use Captive tattoos) I think this ideas are less dependant on a low level PC and help with the roleplay in long playthrough-

Tattoos will almost certainly be a part of it. There will be a quest... And it'll be a little deeper than the existing pimps, but I wouldn't expect anything TOO epic. I'm reading Harleen now so... lol.

 

UPDATE:

 

Might need an extra day guys. while going through the scripts I realized there are some more problems with raider prostitution that need fixed. Thankfully it's pretty minor stuff but is gonna need testing. I am at least just about done with the dialogue boxes.

[pok0]

Just wanted to say that I really appreciate the depth of the roleplaying branches in this mod.  That there are different scenarios with the guards, for instance, followed by other NPCs commenting on player damage (Gray User's animations go awesome with this), or the discovery that some NPCs have unique dialogue choices.  My character just got the surprise of getting her butt kicked by Queen, as well.  Simulating her gradually sinking into depravity with her reactions has brought some much-needed roleplaying back into Fallout 4.  I've even found myself tweaking her looks to match the progression, which means I'm into it.  It's a fun mod to play with.  Excellent work.

 

The helpful guards of Diamond City--

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[SAC]

11 minutes ago, pok0 said:

 

The helpful guards of Diamond City--

 

The night takes a toll--

 

 

Are the face decals scripted by a mod, or have you applied them manually?

 

[SAC]

 

Pesky menacing female riders...

 

 

[pok0]

29 minutes ago, SAC said:

 

Are the face decals scripted by a mod, or have you applied them manually?

 

That's from the excellent "Tattoos for captives (LooksMenu Overlays / Skin Overrides)".  I applied them manually as the situation called for them.  Not something I usually do but it kind of drew me in.

 

[Folfie]

12 hours ago, Tentacus said:

You need a working and tested copy of AAF to play this mod. F4SE is one of AAF's requirements.  I suggest you look into a guide to set AAF up before you try any AAF mods. That accounts for none of the sex stuff working.

 

As for the raiders you have to be in Beggar Whore mode for the holstering to work. You should get a message that says "You appear non threatening" when you holster. Also there are a very few areas where raiders will always attack. Inside the Combat Zone for instance. I can't remember if Concorde is one as well.

Thanks for the answer. The AAF copy I use is the one from nexusmods, I think it works? I mean, it was installed just fine.

 

The raiders, well, the message does not appear whenever I holster the weapon even tho I have the mode activated. Does it work for both men and women? Or just women? Since I play a male character so, yeah.

[SAC]

2 hours ago, pok0 said:

That's from the excellent "Tattoos for captives (LooksMenu Overlays / Skin Overrides)".  I applied them manually as the situation called for them.  Not something I usually do but it kind of drew me in.

 

 

Thank you. I know that mod, it is great, I was hoping that someone found a way to add face decals programmatically 

 

 

[Mara26]

28 minutes ago, SAC said:

 

Thank you. I know that mod, it is great, I was hoping that someone found a way to add face decals programmatically 

 

 

There is this mod which seems to does that. I haven't tried it myself, though.

 

 

[Indarello]

1 hour ago, Mara26 said:

There is this mod which seems to does that. I haven't tried it myself, though.

 

No

[JB.]

20 hours ago, Tentacus said:

I like this idea, though if I go the actual slavery route (which I am leaning toward) I'd have him just take it all, and only give out food, water and "gifts" like chems and booze. Maybe even withold food if the player displeases him. Of course if I do all this I might make it an expansion pack  with it's own ESP and requirements. I was already thinking of doing an addon to have NPC prostitutes that would be competition to the player (Or hired by the player) Anyway we'll see. This is just daydreaming. I need to get back to working on 1.0.7.

That's pretty hardcore, man. And I love it.

 

Just one last daydreaming: I love how your dialogues start being shy until you can speak with confidence. In the case of slavery, the process could be the opposite. The character would start stuttering and talking with insecurity the longer she / he worked as a slave. A degradation to submission.

 

That said, I also leave my Nora here. She is a Raider Pet, but she already has permission to walk on her own and currently works for "Mama" in Bunker Hill. 

 

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