OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[PippinTom]

On 9/6/2019 at 12:51 AM, OsmelMC said:

Include option to show the progress of the current task even after save and load the game. (if the task take too long, is safe keep playing as usual)

 

Sadly but I can't find that option, description is misleading or that feature is missing?

 

edit:

NVM - there is no option as such in MCM but progress is shown after reopening SLATE page - nice I don't have to tail papyrus to see how things are going.

Edited October 24, 2021 by PippinTom
self-enlightment

[OsmelMC]

7 hours ago, PippinTom said:

 

edit:

NVM - there is no option as such in MCM but progress is shown after reopening SLATE page - nice I don't have to tail papyrus to see how things are going.

 

Yes the same option show the updated progress each time you open the page.

 

Track the progress on real time will make it more slow that already is. So I made it to be showed just when you open the page as part of the option name.

 

By the way, in the way is made you can keep playing while is working and even close the game and open it again. Just avoid start sex scenes and install or remove any mod until be completed.

[lolwhy]

On 10/22/2021 at 3:11 PM, OsmelMC said:

SLSO follow his own rules for the Orgasms and from my point of view still isn't fully updated for the BETA 9

 

I even noticed that some times don't get enjoyment for the one actor scenes.

 

 

If you are using the SLSO any issue with the Orgasm is caused by the SLSO even if you are also using my SLU+, because I just copy his scripts into my Scripts.

 

 I've tried two different versions of SLSO and on both beta 8 and 9. Doesn't seem to change a thing about the issue I've been encountering, Tried the earliest SLU+ downloadable from the mod page (2021/06) and the issue persists, so the cause must be something that was updated in between ~november last year and june. Sadly, can't see any changelog on the mod page to look it up.

 

Using SLU+ from november (the old version I had installed) gives no issues and doesn't have any problem with SLSO.

 

Any suggestions what that may be?

Edited October 24, 2021 by lolwhy

[PippinTom]

3 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Just avoid start sex scenes

 

You are asking a lot here  ? - I tried to explain that to my horse... but that's futile and the re-apply of 2.5+k actions takes (real time) hours...

 

Not all scenes are initiated by the PC operator - are you recommending to disable all auto-matchmaking and defeat related mods for the time being?

 

What is the worst thing that can happen if PC/NPC fail to restrain himself and will perform some relieving exercise?
Is it potentially savegame breaking?

[OsmelMC]

13 minutes ago, PippinTom said:

 

What is the worst thing that can happen if PC/NPC fail to restrain himself and will perform some relieving exercise?
Is it potentially savegame breaking?

The sex scenes will make the task take longer and you will have to use the "Clean Animations CACHE" option on the SexLab MCM at the end of the task to force the CACHE to noticed the new tags. But the CACHE options is recommended anyway. So not big deal with the Sex scenes.

 

The big deal is with the installation, uninstall or update some Mod because  in theory that can force the tast to stop and you will have to remove the SLATE to be able to use it again.

[OsmelMC]

35 minutes ago, lolwhy said:

 I've tried two different versions of SLSO and on both beta 8 and 9. Doesn't seem to change a thing about the issue I've been encountering, Tried the earliest SLU+ downloadable from the mod page (2021/06) and the issue persists, so the cause must be something that was updated in between ~november last year and june. Sadly, can't see any changelog on the mod page to look it up.

 

Using SLU+ from november (the old version I had installed) gives no issues and doesn't have any problem with SLSO.

 

Any suggestions what that may be?

 

 

Still is SLSO fault. 

Don't matter if you change the SLSO version because you still will be using the SLU+ scripts and my Scripts are based on the last version of the SLSO for SE that is the one made for the BETA 9 of the SexLab Framework.

 

The problem is that the author of the SLSO is trying to make his Mod compatible with the BETA 9 without test it because she have problems installing the SexLab Framework BETA 9.

So that means that need more time, test and feedback of the users to give it ready.

 

I know the problems on the new SLSO but since I only use it for my test and the author never asked for my help I just waiting for his new version release to copy his changes in the SLSO into my Scripts...

 

 

 

[lolwhy]

alright then, thanks for answers!

[VaunWolfe]

I keep seeing this message. Creature a and npc b gave up. They don't even approach echother even though they are practically right next to eachother. the perversion and stamina requirements are off for npc. This is the le version of slac tweak. 

Edited October 24, 2021 by VaunWolfe

[PippinTom]

6 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

the SLU+ scripts and my Scripts are based on the last version of the SLSO for SE

 

Actually to me it's not entirely accurate: SLU+ seems to incorporate only core parts of SLSO scripts, while SLSO comes with and relies on it's own patch for SLA(roused) - without it SLSO works only at first glance, but gets crippled on lower levels (problems with enjoyment, orgasms, arousal gain and reset values, exposure etc act weird or don't function at all).

 

After applying SexLabAroused_V28b-Patch (Osmel 2021_09_29) SLSO basically becomes not usable; SLEN's libido transfusion spells stops working and exposure remains 0 even if naked body is standing in the middle of the room and even if is flagged as "exhibitionist". So that patch is not for me I'm afraid - probably with NewGame things would act differently and those and other issues would sort themself out, but I'm doing everything to postpone Restart - at least until Requiem SE (official one) becomes available - my current game/PC is not so old 8-12 weeks tops and starting over would be boring.

 

However without your SLA patch there are other issues (at the moment can't recall precisely which ones), that I can actually see as well some invisible, ones that only leaves trace in papyrus logs for someone who knows what to look for. At least until they explode in something spectacular and hard to miss (like SL scene starting in the clouds and actors dying afterwards by gravity).

 

So basically with that conflict in mind - I'm fucked up and the only thing I can do is to proceed against your recommendations or forget about Separate Orgasm.

 

 

edit:

fuck it - I give up - I'm starting over. but first I have to manually clean the mess that LOOT created some time ago - things were better before it

 

Edited October 24, 2021 by PippinTom
total surrender

[Iroha]

8 hours ago, PippinTom said:

 

edit:

fuck it - I give up - I'm starting over. but first I have to manually clean the mess that LOOT created some time ago - things were better before it

 

Wrye Bash can help you with it (it shows plugins LO in save), if you still have saves with better LO.

[OsmelMC]

9 hours ago, VaunWolfe said:

I keep seeing this message. Creature a and npc b gave up. They don't even approach echother even though they are practically right next to eachother. the perversion and stamina requirements are off for npc. This is the le version of slac tweak. 

Clearly something is wrong with the Tweak. Is not stranger if take in consideration that each time a new update is released I have to remake all the Tweak almost from 0. For I see happens only with the Rape scenes.

[OsmelMC]

8 hours ago, PippinTom said:

SLU+ seems to incorporate only core parts of SLSO scripts, while SLSO comes with and relies on it's own patch for SLA(roused) - without it SLSO works only at first glance, but gets crippled on lower levels (problems with enjoyment, orgasms, arousal gain and reset values, exposure etc act weird or don't function at

Interesting. But remember "SexLab Arousal" is not "SexLab Framework" and my "SexLab Utility Plus" is just about the "SexLab Framework". The SLU+ and the Framework do nothing with the "SexLab Arousal" except when the SLSO is installed. I'm only care about the SexLab Framework files and is supposed that everyone using the SLSO be using his Patch for the SexLab Arousal or a SexLab Arousal already compatible with the SLSO like SLAX.

 

My Tweak for SLA don't include the SLSO patch because I don't play with SLSO

[PippinTom]

6 hours ago, Iroha said:

Wrye Bash can help you with it (it shows plugins LO in save), if you still have saves with better LO.

 

Thanks for the tip - I didn't know that, and it sounds promising (however I think more about the future use of that tool than recovering anything from save-line that already recorded LSb8-SLb9 upgrade with all its up- and downsides).

[PippinTom]

7 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

or a SexLab Arousal already compatible with the SLSO like SLAX

 

That's also promising alternative - the only problem is that there is no official port to SE (already searched for that one before - heavy lifting moved out to .dll looks like v.good idea), only fan-made conversion on the forum, and I tend to avoid using those. But I'll give it a try.

Anyway - with a newGame I have not much to loose.

Edited October 25, 2021 by PippinTom

[sudeliukas]

Have same problem "I keep seeing this message. Creature a and npc b gave up." . If I trurn off pursuit, animations works. Clearly need some fix

 

And also I think in SLAC "Allowed creatures" also has a bug, even I turning off creatures SLAC still scaning them..

Edited October 26, 2021 by sudeliukas

[Guest]

Hi Osmel!

This update fixed furnitures for me, thanks so much!

The new SLATE update is really good too.

The import actions function took a very long time but with your advice I just waited until it was done. 

Thanks again for all your hard work!

 

[Nymra]

20 minutes ago, Kira shadowstep said:

Hi Osmel!

This update fixed furnitures for me, thanks so much!

The new SLATE update is really good too.

The import actions function took a very long time but with your advice I just waited until it was done. 

Thanks again for all your hard work!

 

 

have to agree with the SLATE part!
While I noticed some actions missing.

 

FunnyBizness SLAL pack has alot of Animations for "Bound, Cuffs" but miss that tags even with your SLATE actions.

I wanted to update your slate json with it but yeah... naked defeat eats up all my time + I need to setup a new profile since I managed to cripple papyrus enginge after over 8 months of constant abuse of savegames

[Raindrops400]

Hello! Thank you for all these great tweaks and patches

 

I've downloaded the Private Needs Discreet file, along with the SSE patch. I've run FNIS and the animations are working beautifully

 

However, for some reason my character never undresses, even when I've set her preset to take off most things. Only her weapon gets undressed, but all armor and such stays on.

Is this a known bug that has a fix?

 

EDIT: It seems the old LE version of Private Needs Discreet has the same bug, though I have been unable to find a fix for it unfortunately

EDIT2: It seems male NPCs undress properly, but female ones (and the player, if female. Have not tested male player) do not. No doubt a clue on why this happens, though I can't see the solution myself. Maybe it's somehow conflicting with the CBBE body I'm using?

Edited October 28, 2021 by Raindrops400

[stalPROm]

On 10/25/2021 at 8:31 AM, sudeliukas said:

Have same problem "I keep seeing this message. Creature a and npc b gave up." . If I trurn off pursuit, animations works. Clearly need some fix

 

And also I think in SLAC "Allowed creatures" also has a bug, even I turning off creatures SLAC still scaning them..

@OsmelMC Good day, same bug after update to v4.08 for LE, installed correct with SE version first.

[boita]

Hello @OsmelMC , I wanted to update to latest SexLab Utility Plus and I see the SLSO compability is with v1.7.2. On SexLab Separate Orgasm page, there's only v1.7.3 available, is it still good for the latest SexLab Utility Plus ?
 

The SL Adventure Tweak change to the proximity rape collision is awesome, have to run again, no more staying and daring the NPC to cross the invisible safe space

[OsmelMC]

13 hours ago, boita said:

Hello @OsmelMC , I wanted to update to latest SexLab Utility Plus and I see the SLSO compability is with v1.7.2. On SexLab Separate Orgasm page, there's only v1.7.3 available, is it still good for the latest SexLab Utility Plus ?
 

The SL Adventure Tweak change to the proximity rape collision is awesome, have to run again, no more staying and daring the NPC to cross the invisible safe space

 

Usually is safe use my SLU+ with a newest version of the SLSO but you have to remember that my scripts have to overwrite his scripts and still will behave like the last compatible version (1.7.2)

[OsmelMC]

On 10/27/2021 at 1:02 PM, Raindrops400 said:

Hello! Thank you for all these great tweaks and patches

 

I've downloaded the Private Needs Discreet file, along with the SSE patch. I've run FNIS and the animations are working beautifully

 

However, for some reason my character never undresses, even when I've set her preset to take off most things. Only her weapon gets undressed, but all armor and such stays on.

Is this a known bug that has a fix?

 

EDIT: It seems the old LE version of Private Needs Discreet has the same bug, though I have been unable to find a fix for it unfortunately

EDIT2: It seems male NPCs undress properly, but female ones (and the player, if female. Have not tested male player) do not. No doubt a clue on why this happens, though I can't see the solution myself. Maybe it's somehow conflicting with the CBBE body I'm using?

 

The body slot is the 32 and need to be toggled ON. I don't remember any issue undressing beside the Penis not taking his place. The only issue I know abut, is the redressing that not always happen. My current scripts are far from that version ant can't be used as reference, sadly still isn't ready for release.

[OsmelMC]

On 10/27/2021 at 9:59 PM, stalPROm said:

@OsmelMC Good day, same bug after update to v4.08 for LE, installed correct with SE version first.

I recommend use the previous version because seems like I made a mistake on this one and can't find it. 

[OsmelMC]

On 10/25/2021 at 10:23 AM, PippinTom said:

 

That's also promising alternative - the only problem is that there is no official port to SE (already searched for that one before - heavy lifting moved out to .dll looks like v.good idea), only fan-made conversion on the forum, and I tend to avoid using those. But I'll give it a try.

Anyway - with a newGame I have not much to loose.

I recently found on the SLAX thread a conversion to SE that I have to try but sound promising 

[PippinTom]

2 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

I recently found on the SLAX thread a conversion to SE that I have to try but sound promising

 

After a week of playing on SLAX I must admit - at least for me its first SLA fork that actually works past few initial tests (so far seems stable)  - I see no miscalculations of values, proper updates of everything and what's more important - no zeroes in places where they may be simple math breaking, like TimeRate etc.