OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[greenmango12]

Hi as usuall I now up-date your tweak mods.. then I have not installed  "Conditional Expressions v1.20 Patch for SexLab (20210927).7z" can you teach me about this mod? 

 

(I do not know conditional expressions ,, is it mod for SE? and it work with recent sexlab beta se version? (not git hub) 

or I need not this any more?)

[Iroha]

16 minutes ago, VaunWolfe said:

when you say clean save do you mean a new game or Remove the mod save then re enable the mod?

I mean clean-save procedure described here, in the spoiler.

Edited October 22, 2021 by Iroha

[PippinTom]

5 minutes ago, Iroha said:

I mean clean-save procedure

why not with the big guns: https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/Guide:Troubleshooting#Clean_Savegame_Procedure

 

[lolwhy]

Hey, I used a version of your mod about a year ago with no issues, however when I tried it recently on a new game and with the newest version SLSO orgasm won't trigger within one scene (at max enjoyment), but it does when I switch scenes or animations in that situation.

 

Nothing overwrites your mod on the left side of MO2 and I have pretty much the same load order as I had a year ago, just with updated mods. All patches are installed, tried every option within SLSO MCM as well.

 

Any idea what may be the problem? After either uninstalling SLU+ or using the old version everything works fine.

Edited October 22, 2021 by lolwhy

[PippinTom]

50 minutes ago, lolwhy said:

with the newest version SLSO orgasm won't trigger within one scene (at max enjoyment), but it does when I switch scenes or animations in that situation

 

I happen to experience the same issue (quite often) - male (dick operator anyway) lingering at "peek of fillbar" and hesitating for very long time, with no expected outc00m?
And pulling anim stage one step back helps him usually somehow to finally make proper decission. (probably pushing step forward would do the same - but there is always a risk that current stage is the last one...).

BUT! until yesterday's update of SLU+ I've been (ab)using SLSO 1.7.3 as priority over SLU+ (overwriting everything with SLSO content) and the same problem existed. So without any proof except intuition fueled by experience, I would risk theory that issue is more likely somewhere inside SLSO or even SLb9.

But of course that my be unjust accusation - no ofence intended @Ed86 or anyone else. ✌️

[decaluka]

Hi, I hope you're doing well @OsmelMC , just wanted to ask if the SL Utility Plus tweak is meant to work on SE with the beta version of Sexlab Framework or the original release?

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, decaluka said:

Hi, I hope you're doing well @OsmelMC , just wanted to ask if the SL Utility Plus tweak is meant to work on SE with the beta version of Sexlab Framework or the original release?

Is made to work with any of the SexLab Framework released versions, is always recommended use the most recent version available. For now is also compatible with the GitHub version.

 

 

PS: in theory should even work with the deprecated v1.5 of the SexLab 

[OsmelMC]

3 hours ago, lolwhy said:

Hey, I used a version of your mod about a year ago with no issues, however when I tried it recently on a new game and with the newest version SLSO orgasm won't trigger within one scene (at max enjoyment), but it does when I switch scenes or animations in that situation.

 

Nothing overwrites your mod on the left side of MO2 and I have pretty much the same load order as I had a year ago, just with updated mods. All patches are installed, tried every option within SLSO MCM as well.

 

Any idea what may be the problem? After either uninstalling SLU+ or using the old version everything works fine.

SLSO follow his own rules for the Orgasms and from my point of view still isn't fully updated for the BETA 9

 

I even noticed that some times don't get enjoyment for the one actor scenes.

 

 

If you are using the SLSO any issue with the Orgasm is caused by the SLSO even if you are also using my SLU+, because I just copy his scripts into my Scripts.

 

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, PippinTom said:

I've been (ab)using SLSO 1.7.3 as priority over SLU+

If you do that you have big chance of see your actors shrink at the end of the animation. You should always make SLU+ overwrite all the rest of the Mods or the consequences are impossible to predict. 

Is better ask me and wait for a update than let another Mod overwrite my files

[OsmelMC]

7 hours ago, VaunWolfe said:

when you say clean save do you mean a new game or Remove the mod save then re enable the mod?

Remove, save and then re install.

That isn't needed if you wait my updated of the Tweak before install the original version. The best is install the original version and my Tweak for that version at the same time.

[PippinTom]

24 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

Is better ask me and wait for a update than let another Mod overwrite my files

 

OK, I know... but I've been waiting ... and waiting... and SLSO is so much "must have" mod that I couldn't wait any more and decided that sex without protection is risk I'm willing to take ?

Edited October 22, 2021 by PippinTom

[OsmelMC]

7 hours ago, greenmango12 said:

Hi as usuall I now up-date your tweak mods.. then I have not installed  "Conditional Expressions v1.20 Patch for SexLab (20210927).7z" can you teach me about this mod? 

 

(I do not know conditional expressions ,, is it mod for SE? and it work with recent sexlab beta se version? (not git hub) 

or I need not this any more?)

 

The Conditional Expression Mod is not related with SexLab and for that reason the Patch is required if the mod is installed. You can find the Mod on Nexus, is for SE and work fine on LE too of course if you extract the BSA file.

 

Conditional Expressions change the Player Expressions based on what the player is doing, and since don't check if the SexLab Animation is played override the SexLab Expressions by mistake if you don't have the Patch.

[PippinTom]

10 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

On the short time I did my test I don't remember seeing any FC scene but just because my follower was faster than the Creature and success on escape the 3 times

 

When I read it I thought - what a lucky bastard that followers of yours - 3 successful escapes while I don't recall any NPC to do that in my games - difficult but possible, I thought.

My PC sometimes managed to escape but not always - only if i reacted very quickly in response to message on the screen that some critter is chasing me.

But guess what - right now I'm testing that with my horse - and actually all I have to do to "escape" is to make two steps in any direction and horse gives up on that instant (and he is standing no more that few meters away, so basically PC is withing he's "catching radius").

 

Spoiler

[10/22/2021 - 04:38:26PM] [slac] Quest alias scan found 3 out of 20 creatures in 10secs
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:26PM] [slac] Auto engagement check is starting
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:29PM] [slac] FindNPCs located 0 actors of gender 1 within 59.999996ft of Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] FindNPCs located 0 actors of gender 1 within 59.999996ft of Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] SearchCreatureVictimGender:4 found 0 Creature Victim in Radius:1279.997925
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] FindNPCs located 0 actors of gender 1 within 59.999996ft of Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] is selecting from [] potential partners
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] is sorting [[Actor < (00000014)>]] potential partners
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] has finished sorting [[Actor < (00000014)>]] potential partners
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] Found Victims: MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] 3.791992 secs)
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] FindExtraCreatures starting for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] and Frost [00097E1F] with 3 candidates ...
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Creature candidate 1 for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] is initial attacker Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Creature candidate 2 failed: incompatible Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC548] (M) for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] race [Race <MudcrabRace (000BA545)>]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Creature candidate 3 failed: incompatible Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC549] (M) for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] race [Race <MudcrabRace (000BA545)>]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Found 0 additional Horses for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] and Frost [00097E1F]. max:2/3
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] FindExtraCreatures took 0.271973 secs
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] not removed, not a suitor
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] Monitor: now monitoring MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] Monitor: now monitoring Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] You are being pursued by an aroused Frost
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] (male) MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014](selected 77-5) - 5.552246 secs
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] You have escaped the aroused Frost
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:34PM] [slac] Monitor: un-monitoring MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:34PM] [slac] Cleaning player data
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:34PM] [slac] MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] cleaned
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:35PM] [slac] Monitor: un-monitoring Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:35PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] cleaned
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:35PM] [slac] Stopping pursuit for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] and Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:36PM] [slac] Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC548] failed creature test: noanims
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:36PM] [slac] Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC548] (male) failed automated engagement test 2.464355 secs
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:36PM] [slac] General Cooldown, skipping creature Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC549]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:36PM] [slac] Creature process duration: 9secs

 

[greenmango12]

1 hour ago, OsmelMC said:

 

The Conditional Expression Mod is not related with SexLab and for that reason the Patch is required if the mod is installed. You can find the Mod on Nexus, is for SE and work fine on LE too of course if you extract the BSA file.

 

Conditional Expressions change the Player Expressions based on what the player is doing, and since don't check if the SexLab Animation is played override the SexLab Expressions by mistake if you don't have the Patch.

Thanks, it clear enough now.... (sorry I did not serch mode name  with google...) 

[greenmango12]

What I hope someday if you can offer patch to correct Zaz animation Pack (ZAP) scripts..about MCM menus etc..

 

it really take long time just swap category... and usually when I up-date Sexlab utility plus, with clean system,  it remove all zaz animation from sexlab registry..

the problem is, to re-activate zaz animation.. it need more minutes ^^; (other SLAL animation took time to, but it is more stable. to up-date and clear which animation is registered..)

 

zaz SE MCM menu is really sllow and not reflect soon. so usually I really do not know it actually up-dated correctly. untill test some animations... 

 

[VaunWolfe]

2 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Remove, save and then re install.

That isn't needed if you wait my updated of the Tweak before install the original version. The best is install the original version and my Tweak for that version at the same time.

I removed the the sexlab aroused creatures base mod. I saved then reloaded and waited for 48 hours in game then saved again then ran resaver and removed all orphaned items. I then reloaded both aroused creatures mods. Set it to 5 settings decreased the arousal requirement even turned off the perversion requirement and stood infront of the horse nothing was happening. May need to start a new game to see if it is my save file. 

Papyrus.0.log

[Iroha]

9 hours ago, PippinTom said:

why not with the big guns: https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/Guide:Troubleshooting#Clean_Savegame_Procedure

 

No need in big guns, besides, its not covers as much as big gun should. here, in case of slac, there is no any respawn interaction (like in guide example). Guide is good for lightscripted mods. Script instances that can live unattached after that simple uninstalling and can spoil things. Thats why resaver needed at minimum.

 

PS didnt try latest slac, so cant tell right now if there are problem with interactions for me.

Edited October 22, 2021 by Iroha

[PippinTom]

10 minutes ago, Iroha said:

Thats why resaver needed at minimum

 

Resaver is a must, but is not enough - that's why there is also a guide. Yours and theirs.

 

PS: there seems to be problems with SLAC-patch, at least for me. But so far nothing I cannot live with.

Edited October 22, 2021 by PippinTom

[Iroha]

Sorry, looked in old esp.

 

Edited October 22, 2021 by Iroha

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, PippinTom said:

 

When I read it I thought - what a lucky bastard that followers of yours - 3 successful escapes while I don't recall any NPC to do that in my games - difficult but possible, I thought.

My PC sometimes managed to escape but not always - only if i reacted very quickly in response to message on the screen that some critter is chasing me.

But guess what - right now I'm testing that with my horse - and actually all I have to do to "escape" is to make two steps in any direction and horse gives up on that instant (and he is standing no more that few meters away, so basically PC is withing he's "catching radius").

 

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[10/22/2021 - 04:38:26PM] [slac] Quest alias scan found 3 out of 20 creatures in 10secs
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:26PM] [slac] Auto engagement check is starting
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:29PM] [slac] FindNPCs located 0 actors of gender 1 within 59.999996ft of Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] FindNPCs located 0 actors of gender 1 within 59.999996ft of Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] SearchCreatureVictimGender:4 found 0 Creature Victim in Radius:1279.997925
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] FindNPCs located 0 actors of gender 1 within 59.999996ft of Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] is selecting from [] potential partners
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] is sorting [[Actor < (00000014)>]] potential partners
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] has finished sorting [[Actor < (00000014)>]] potential partners
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:30PM] [slac] Found Victims: MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] 3.791992 secs)
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] FindExtraCreatures starting for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] and Frost [00097E1F] with 3 candidates ...
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Creature candidate 1 for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] is initial attacker Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Creature candidate 2 failed: incompatible Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC548] (M) for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] race [Race <MudcrabRace (000BA545)>]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Creature candidate 3 failed: incompatible Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC549] (M) for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] race [Race <MudcrabRace (000BA545)>]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Found 0 additional Horses for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] and Frost [00097E1F]. max:2/3
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] FindExtraCreatures took 0.271973 secs
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:32PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] not removed, not a suitor
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] Monitor: now monitoring MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] Monitor: now monitoring Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] You are being pursued by an aroused Frost
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] (male) MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014](selected 77-5) - 5.552246 secs
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:33PM] [slac] You have escaped the aroused Frost
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:34PM] [slac] Monitor: un-monitoring MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:34PM] [slac] Cleaning player data
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:34PM] [slac] MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] cleaned
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:35PM] [slac] Monitor: un-monitoring Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:35PM] [slac] Frost [00097E1F] cleaned
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:35PM] [slac] Stopping pursuit for MyPCacrobatCharacter [00000014] and Frost [00097E1F]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:36PM] [slac] Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC548] failed creature test: noanims
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:36PM] [slac] Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC548] (male) failed automated engagement test 2.464355 secs
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:36PM] [slac] General Cooldown, skipping creature Mudcrab Scrapper [000DC549]
[10/22/2021 - 04:38:36PM] [slac] Creature process duration: 9secs

 

I will check the escape radius and se if cand see if is taking the size of the Creature as reference or not.

 

Of course you can adjust the escape radius option Values.

 

In my test the Creatures was in the stables and behind a fence so besides I was only concerned about the CC scenes I don't feel stranger that the follower manage to escape all the time on that situation.

 

I'm also on a new game and right now none of my followers is lewd enough to accept the Creatures approach so they always try to escape.

 

 

 

 

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, greenmango12 said:

What I hope someday if you can offer patch to correct Zaz animation Pack (ZAP) scripts..about MCM menus etc..

 

it really take long time just swap category... and usually when I up-date Sexlab utility plus, with clean system,  it remove all zaz animation from sexlab registry..

the problem is, to re-activate zaz animation.. it need more minutes ^^; (other SLAL animation took time to, but it is more stable. to up-date and clear which animation is registered..)

 

zaz SE MCM menu is really sllow and not reflect soon. so usually I really do not know it actually up-dated correctly. untill test some animations... 

 

I made a JSON file one time to let the "SexLab Animation Load" handle it for you. By the way if you are using the "Devious Devices" mod too you better let the ZaZ Animations unregistered because DDi already come with the same Animations and more.

 

 

I will check if I find the JSON file. But you can try on google because I'm sure that someone else come with the same idea about make a JSON file for that.

[PippinTom]

5 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

Of course you can adjust the escape radius option Values.

There is nothing wrong with my radius, I just made a comment about that because maybe, just maybe, PC has been too close to the horse and that meant something.

 

Anyway -  didn't actually tried to escape - after seeing MSG about being a winner in Frost's contest for hottest piece of meat in the willage I just instinctively moved mouse a bit to look around and check from which direction crit will come and that was it - the chase was over and - it FELT strangely wrong. like classic glitch not a result of heavy logic behind it. And after cooldown grace period it happened again, the same way - I moved my mouse just a bit without thinking.

Third time it did not happen because I didn't touch my mouse

 

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, VaunWolfe said:

I removed the the sexlab aroused creatures base mod. I saved then reloaded and waited for 48 hours in game then saved again then ran resaver and removed all orphaned items. I then reloaded both aroused creatures mods. Set it to 5 settings decreased the arousal requirement even turned off the perversion requirement and stood infront of the horse nothing was happening. May need to start a new game to see if it is my save file. 

Papyrus.0.log 140.56 kB · 2 downloads

You log said that you don't follow the instructions of the download page to install the Tweak.

 

Since this is just a Tweak still need the original Mod installed and each SLAC Tweak is made for one specific version of the Mod so you have to download and install that version. 

 

By the way the last Tweak is based on the last SE version of the "Aroused Creatures" Mod so you need that version installed. And don't worry if you are playing on LE because the setup of my Tweak detect it and set the required files to convert the SE version to LE.

 

Remember to run FNIS or Nemesis once installed the Tweak.

 

To be clear: the logs said that you don't have the original Mod required for this Tweak.

[VaunWolfe]

1 hour ago, OsmelMC said:

You log said that you don't follow the instructions of the download page to install the Tweak.

 

Since this is just a Tweak still need the original Mod installed and each SLAC Tweak is made for one specific version of the Mod so you have to download and install that version. 

 

By the way the last Tweak is based on the last SE version of the "Aroused Creatures" Mod so you need that version installed. And don't worry if you are playing on LE because the setup of my Tweak detect it and set the required files to convert the SE version to LE.

 

Remember to run FNIS or Nemesis once installed the Tweak.

 

To be clear: the logs said that you don't have the original Mod required for this Tweak.

Odd. Because it is installed. But thank you It will give me an idea on what to try.

[Church the Cat]

Hello there, thanks for putting together all these patches. I'm just curious if I need to install "Sexlab Utility Plus" if all I'm interested in is the "UUNP" patch for "3D Pubic Hair for CBBE and SOS"? I was assuming I would only need the original author's file and your "UUNP" patch, but wanted to be sure before I break something. Thanks. ?