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There's a problem with the rescue never happening. Basically the trauma level doesn't go higher than 1 because it reduces back to 0 with just a little bit of waiting.

 

Other thing is that they think i'm running away if i run inside my cell.

 

I guess the solution for now is to keep doing escape attempts etc, it seems to be "helping" ?

edit: But not helping enough. Highest i saw the severity go was 7, but without waiting and tens of blackouts later i'm at level 6 now. So i guess some console measures are needed, kill captor or something.

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Great mod, bravo ! In my Ciri playthrough, I went on sneaky crossbow attack against Hag Rock Redoubt and was sneaked upon by a Briarheart. Got raped, captured, and escaped by my own. Very immersive.

Little tip to other users : blends seamlessly with Apropos.

Posted

Didnt get an answer last time I was here so am hoping with more time passed now I can. Will this mod conflict heavily with other defeat, enslavement, drug mods like Defeat, SD+, Deviously Enslaved, or Skooma Whore or will it be fine to use together so long as I adjust the settings accordingly?

Posted
2 hours ago, LesboIsBesto said:

Didnt get an answer last time I was here so am hoping with more time passed now I can. Will this mod conflict heavily with other defeat, enslavement, drug mods like Defeat, SD+, Deviously Enslaved, or Skooma Whore or will it be fine to use together so long as I adjust the settings accordingly?

Well I played with Devious Followers, and I got an amount of 5 ctd a day for two hours of playing. But this was because I was using 2k textures, as soon as I passed my textures in Ordenador things got smoother and I stopped having ctd.

Posted
2 hours ago, LesboIsBesto said:

Didnt get an answer last time I was here so am hoping with more time passed now I can. Will this mod conflict heavily with other defeat, enslavement, drug mods like Defeat, SD+, Deviously Enslaved, or Skooma Whore or will it be fine to use together so long as I adjust the settings accordingly?

Well I played with Devious Followers, and I got an amount of 5 ctd a day for two hours of playing. But this was because I was using 2k textures, as soon as I passed my textures in Ordenador things got smoother and I stopped having ctd.

Posted
3 hours ago, LesboIsBesto said:

Didnt get an answer last time I was here so am hoping with more time passed now I can. Will this mod conflict heavily with other defeat, enslavement, drug mods like Defeat, SD+, Deviously Enslaved, or Skooma Whore or will it be fine to use together so long as I adjust the settings accordingly?

I posted about this a few pages back, this and Defeat compete and sometimes interfere with one another. In my limited experience, Defeat was most often the loser but sometimes you would get weird situations. My recommendation is use this or Defeat, or disable the rape parts of Defeat. No idea about the other mods. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, McLude said:

I posted about this a few pages back, this and Defeat compete and sometimes interfere with one another. In my limited experience, Defeat was most often the loser but sometimes you would get weird situations. My recommendation is use this or Defeat, or disable the rape parts of Defeat. No idea about the other mods. 

This.  I have both Defeat and DiD.   If I want to go to Simple Slavery and Sanguine's Debauchery outcomes, I go with Defeat.  If not, I go with DiD.  That means turning off one or the other as both have capture/slavery outcomes that are not compatible. 

 

Posted

Hi everbody,

 

i have a quick question, if i get hit and get defeate (HP 0) i get instant full health and can fight further so i dont get a defeat szenario, anybody else has the same bug?

Posted
24 minutes ago, CynicalCore said:

i have a quick question, if i get hit and get defeate (HP 0) i get instant full health and can fight further so i dont get a defeat szenario, anybody else has the same bug?

Depends on which defeats you enabled in MCM. I have bleedout defeat enabled so player cannot die. That case only happened when i fought against a big dwarven centurion, i could just get back up and go back fighting.

 

But i'm not sure of your case, do you have other defeat-like mods?

Posted
3 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

Depends on which defeats you enabled in MCM. I have bleedout defeat enabled so player cannot die. That case only happened when i fought against big a dwarven centurion, i could just get back up and go back fighting.

 

But i'm not sure of your case, do you have other defeat-like mods?

Yeah i had defeate too. but i have removed it and tried a new game but i got still the instant healing effect. i let the dwarven sphere "kill" me ten times and got always the full health effect. i have also animatiosn for the spehere...

Posted

The "HP 0 to HP full" defeat happens a lot on my setup too.

No other defeat mod used.

I think it's maybe because DiD can't recognize a lot of different enemy types, so if the target isn't DiD defeat compatible it will just rise the HP back to full.

I see that a lot on boss fights or non vanilla hostiles.

 

So far DiD worked better with high HP, maybe a quick death from a hard hitter goes to quick? (like SLdefeat issue)

Or maybe it's the range of the HP settings that prevent DiD to trigger.

 

NDUNdefeat does it rather well, if no enemy is near or recognized it will just take the next possible hostile NPC/creature that is close by.

Maybe a similar defeat mechanic could help DiD to become a more consistant defeat mod?

Posted
7 hours ago, CynicalCore said:

Hi everbody,

 

i have a quick question, if i get hit and get defeate (HP 0) i get instant full health and can fight further so i dont get a defeat szenario, anybody else has the same bug?

I've seen this particular bug..in some fights, it ends up being a cycle of getting hit to 0 HP, zoom back up to full health, rinse and repeat.  It's pretty annoying though. 

Posted
8 hours ago, CynicalCore said:

Hi everbody,

 

i have a quick question, if i get hit and get defeate (HP 0) i get instant full health and can fight further so i dont get a defeat szenario, anybody else has the same bug?

I had that too, it was one of the reasons I went back to Defeat. It may have been solvable IDK. 

Posted

K so I installed the mod & made changes to the settings in order to keep it from messing with others & surrendering to vampires went thru pretty much what I expected to happen while Defeat & other mods steered clear.

 

They locked me in a cage & I cannot move, so some questions:

 

1. Are my captors regardless of faction suppose to have any new dialogue cuz they don’t talk so far but their mouths move when I interact with em.

 

2. One mod did force my character to get raped b4 I regained any control of her & I was locked in more devices cuz of it. Not a super big deal so far but need to know if doing stuff that gets me in trouble like this or more normal stuff will have any other effects on me that arent explicitly in the mod page.

 

3. Usually I allow myself to stay enslaved for long periods of time but when I play for reals, I want to be able to escape as quick as possible if needed. If I’m a low level character (or if level & skills don’t matter much), is it easier and/or faster to escape on my own or choose the rescue option?

 

4. Have not tried this yet but will my captors dying free me automatically or will it bug out the enslavement?

 

5. Is there a way to make them rape me more often? I turned up the chances for all actors I want eligible up to 100% yet after being taken, they hardly do no matter what I do, even if I get caught doing something on purpose.

 

6. Is there anything my captors will force me to do for them like with SD+ or other enslavement mods or is the only thing expected of me is to stay in my cage?

 

If I think of anything else, will ask more. So far I like this mod doe, always need a new rape/enslavement mod :3

Posted
2 hours ago, LesboIsBesto said:

K so I installed the mod & made changes to the settings in order to keep it from messing with others & surrendering to vampires went thru pretty much what I expected to happen while Defeat & other mods steered clear.

 

They locked me in a cage & I cannot move, so some questions:

 

1. Are my captors regardless of faction suppose to have any new dialogue cuz they don’t talk so far but their mouths move when I interact with em.

 

2. One mod did force my character to get raped b4 I regained any control of her & I was locked in more devices cuz of it. Not a super big deal so far but need to know if doing stuff that gets me in trouble like this or more normal stuff will have any other effects on me that arent explicitly in the mod page.

 

3. Usually I allow myself to stay enslaved for long periods of time but when I play for reals, I want to be able to escape as quick as possible if needed. If I’m a low level character (or if level & skills don’t matter much), is it easier and/or faster to escape on my own or choose the rescue option?

 

4. Have not tried this yet but will my captors dying free me automatically or will it bug out the enslavement?

 

5. Is there a way to make them rape me more often? I turned up the chances for all actors I want eligible up to 100% yet after being taken, they hardly do no matter what I do, even if I get caught doing something on purpose.

 

6. Is there anything my captors will force me to do for them like with SD+ or other enslavement mods or is the only thing expected of me is to stay in my cage?

 

If I think of anything else, will ask more. So far I like this mod doe, always need a new rape/enslavement mod :3

1.  AFAIK I don't know if they have any dialogue.  You may want to try Sexlab Dialogues. 

2. Trying to loot, moving too quickly or too far will get you raped and potentially get more devices locked on you as of the latest version of DiD.

3. Probably faster to escape on your own..but I don't know the exact parameters for the rescue but it's probably tied to your level and level of trauma.   The fastest way I know of is make sure you aren't wearing ankle shackles and to have a clear path for your escape. Then sprint like mad and hope you got enough of a head start for them not to catch you.  Or kill them all. 

4. All of your captors have to die before you can escape according to the patch notes.  If even one is alive, he'll replace your last "follower captor" as your new "follower captor"

5. See #2.

6. Not that I know of.  You're pretty much expected to stay in your cage. 

Posted
4 hours ago, LesboIsBesto said:

 

3.If you manage to put the enemy in combat, they won't try to stop you if you sprint to exit. They'll try to kill you though and re-capture.

 

If you have Deviously Enslaved (Continued) and it triggers an approach, choose to [Kick] him. That starts a fistfight which propably gives you lots of options:

- Run away directly.

- Use spell, making it real combat.

- Or do what i did and hit him until he falls, and while he staggers run to exit. Your captor in fist-fight mode is unkillable.

Posted
25 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

3.If you manage to put the enemy in combat, they won't try to stop you if you sprint to exit. They'll try to kill you though and re-capture.

 

If you have Deviously Enslaved (Continued) and it triggers an approach, choose to [Kick] him. That starts a fistfight which propably gives you lots of options:

- Run away directly.

- Use spell, making it real combat.

- Or do what i did and hit him until he falls, and while he staggers run to exit. Your captor in fist-fight mode is unkillable.

DEC wasnt what caused the approach, in fact it hasnt caused any at all with these NPCs cuz they enemies. It was Cursed Loot's approach feature.

Posted
4 minutes ago, LesboIsBesto said:

DEC wasnt what caused the approach, in fact it hasnt caused any at all with these NPCs cuz they enemies. It was Cursed Loot's approach feature.

I mean if you add DEC you'll get 3rd kind of, at least i get all 3 of them. You may want to turn DCL rape lower chance or longer delay if it's too often. You get this mod's rape more when you try to escape or attack your captor.

Posted
2 hours ago, Celedhring said:

1.  AFAIK I don't know if they have any dialogue.  You may want to try Sexlab Dialogues. 

2. Trying to loot, moving too quickly or too far will get you raped and potentially get more devices locked on you as of the latest version of DiD.

3. Probably faster to escape on your own..but I don't know the exact parameters for the rescue but it's probably tied to your level and level of trauma.   The fastest way I know of is make sure you aren't wearing ankle shackles and to have a clear path for your escape. Then sprint like mad and hope you got enough of a head start for them not to catch you.  Or kill them all. 

4. All of your captors have to die before you can escape according to the patch notes.  If even one is alive, he'll replace your last "follower captor" as your new "follower captor"

5. See #2.

6. Not that I know of.  You're pretty much expected to stay in your cage. 

I have Dialogues, nothing changes about what they say when I interact with em, they say nothin at all. And dont they rape me on their own even if I behave? Least thats what I got from the page but it doesnt seem to happen and getting caught barely triggers it either.

Posted
On 5/25/2019 at 3:43 PM, Heorlasgir said:

Well I played with Devious Followers, and I got an amount of 5 ctd a day for two hours of playing. But this was because I was using 2k textures, as soon as I passed my textures in Ordenador things got smoother and I stopped having ctd.

What would DF or DiD have to do with your textures?

 

I use this with DF, and I don't find any increase in CTD vs using DF without DiD. Neither mod increases CTD.

 

For some people 4K textures are fine, for others 256 is a problem, but DiD doesn't really contain textures, and DF has very few.

 

I think it's pretty safe to assume that - in itself - using DiD (or DF) does not mean you need to take any special measures with your textures.

Posted
5 hours ago, Celedhring said:

AFAIK I don't know if they have any dialogue.  You may want to try Sexlab Dialogues

SexLab Dialogues does not make any difference to DiD. It doesn't appear to use it.

 

I find they (still) often lock you up so they can't get to you, and then don't seem to initiate any rapes at all. You just stay where you're put. Forever.

 

Other times (I don't know why this varies) they will port in to rape. Perhaps it's caused by running in the cage, which is causing a recapture, which results in a rape, - but in some cases even running in the cage won't make them react - they basically lock you in there to rot, and that's it.

Posted
1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

What would DF or DiD have to do with your textures?

 

I use this with DF, and I don't find any increase in CTD vs using DF without DiD. Neither mod increases CTD.

 

For some people 4K textures are fine, for others 256 is a problem, but DiD doesn't really contain textures, and DF has very few.

 

I think it's pretty safe to assume that - in itself - using DiD (or DF) does not mean you need to take any special measures with your textures.

I am playing on a potato pc, any pcu power I can save is good for me

Posted
On 5/26/2019 at 4:41 AM, Lupine00 said:

I find they (still) often lock you up so they can't get to you, and then don't seem to initiate any rapes at all. You just stay where you're put. Forever.

Can you post a list of locations where this happens? I'll look into adding a blacklist.

Posted
15 hours ago, Code Serpent said:

Can you post a list of locations where this happens? I'll look into adding a blacklist.

I'll try and get a list.

It's not many places, but as a percentage of defeats, it was high.

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