devious devices Devious Lore

[Skwii007]

Thanks for the update!

 

Is the DD patch still needed for version 2.3?

[donttouchmethere]

2 hours ago, Code Serpent said:

(including moving apartments, getting food poisoning, my booster shot knocking me down for a week, and realizing I have a vitamin deficiency)

All issues a dedicated Skyrim modder would get into ?

[Code Serpent]

12 hours ago, Skwii007 said:

Thanks for the update!

 

Is the DD patch still needed for version 2.3?

The patch's have always been optional, but they are recommended.

[viewcommunityrules]

I think there is a bug in 2.3.0. GetLockAccessMult will return 0 when LockAccessDifficulty is 0, completely preventing successful escape. Same for GetArousalMult if arousal is <= minArousal, and GetSkillMult if skill > minSkill and skill >= maxSkill.

[Code Serpent]

13 hours ago, viewcommunityrules said:

I think there is a bug in 2.3.0. GetLockAccessMult will return 0 when LockAccessDifficulty is 0, completely preventing successful escape. Same for GetArousalMult if arousal is <= minArousal, and GetSkillMult if skill > minSkill and skill >= maxSkill.

Oh, yup thanks for pointing that out. I'll upload a hotfix soon.

[donttouchmethere]

Is it wanted that the DL devious lore patch changes DDx body slot configuration for zadx_harness_full_ropeAA?

Spoiler

 

Edited March 13, 2022 by donttouchmethere

[throwaway219]

Looking forward to giving the update a try!  I hope @nomkaz has a chance to update the SE version  Does it require DD5 now? 

 

I've found that the struggle minigame was either too easy and trivialized all restraints, or it was effectively impossible.  Lockpicking in particular was very easy.  I could turn the difficulty option up a lot to help, but that made struggle impossible.  Really looking forward to see the changes you made to it.

 

My two thoughts for spicing it up would be to have failed struggles reduce the difficulty for that device (so at least you made some progress) and/or adding an arousal component to struggling.  Arousal would increase when trying to escape (much more if you're plugged) and continuing the minigame at 100 arousal would have an increasing chance of triggering an orgasm and ending your escape attempt.

 

The other general bug I've found, and I'm sure this is a DD bug you can't avoid, but enchanting DD items is really wonky.  They tend to lose their enchantments and become normal items again.  I think that happens when the DD framework resyncs the inventory & hidden items.  Hard to actually keep enchanted items in use for long.

[Horologia]

What am i doing wrong?

 

Found a Package, opened it, found the devices (From the Stable-Girl)

Asked in Innkeep.

Talked to her.

Got her package.

 

Now, if i open it, i get trapped in it. If i go back to Thalia, she unlockes me and leaves. Shops not open.

If i give it back to her, she takes it and runs of. Shops not open.

If i unlock it, get trapped, get rid of all Restraints, talk to her -> Can only say i didn't find the package. Shops not open.

If i try to get my arousal to 0, still get trapped. See above.

 

What's the magic ingrediant to get the branch where you can refuse a reward and get into her shop?

Any Setstage i could do, to just alleviate my problem?

 

Thanks in advance...

[Vuzzar]

3 hours ago, Horologia said:

What's the magic ingrediant to get the branch where you can refuse a reward and get into her shop?

 

The first time you do an errand for all lorekeepers you get restrained no matter what your arousal or settings are. You need to do another quest for them and not get restrained to get the right dialogue option.

 

 

On 3/9/2022 at 10:34 PM, Code Serpent said:

The escape minigame now detects movement keys other than WASD

 

The minigame does not work if using a controller since that was changed. Before I could use WASD when using a controller, but now it doesn't work anymore. I don't know if there is a way to detect if a controller is being used and if so, use WASD instead. Or could be a toggle in the MCM to use WASD instead of movement keys. Another way could be to have the possibility to manually set the movement keys in the MCM.

[Horologia]

13 hours ago, Antaufein said:

The first time you do an errand for all lorekeepers you get restrained no matter what your arousal or settings are. You need to do another quest for them and not get restrained to get the right dialogue option.

 

BAM! That's it. Thank you very much.

[kayocey]

So I installed this on SE = because the one labeled Se port wasnt working....and im having the exact same issue. 

-not a single item is dropping......lootable/or restraining me. I even capped the sliders at 100 and still nothing . 

-is there some reason this isnt working for me? Thanks in advance for help

[donttouchmethere]

26 minutes ago, kaiteyc said:

-not a single item is dropping......lootable/or restraining me. I even capped the sliders at 100 and still nothing . 

Pobably you don't understand how DL works.

You don't just find DDs/trigger traps, but you find container/objects that trigger traps if opened.

[no_way]

Is there a way to set it so that your followers don't anwer "get on your knees slave" and rape you every time you ask for help with restraints?

 

[Krynn]

Hello, I have two problems since your update and that is that I no longer get a reward when I submit a quest and secondly I have a problem with the bodies of the quest givers, they no longer fit my set devices.

[no_way]

I have a bunch of DD related mods installed but I assume this is the one that allows me to ask my follower for help getting out of devices?

If so, why do they make me "get on my knees like a good slave" and rape me every time instead of trying to help me haha?

[Jahn_Doe]

2 hours ago, no_way said:

I have a bunch of DD related mods installed but I assume this is the one that allows me to ask my follower for help getting out of devices?

If so, why do they make me "get on my knees like a good slave" and rape me every time instead of trying to help me haha?

I don't think it's from this mod. I took a quick peek into the dialogue topics and it does not contain any semblance of the line you mentioned. They either untie you or keep you in your binds. The guards on the other hand might do other things to you depending on how it's set in MCM.

[no_way]

7 minutes ago, Jahn_Doe said:

I don't think it's from this mod. I took a quick peek into the dialogue topics and it does not contain any semblance of the line you mentioned. They either untie you or keep you in your binds. The guards on the other hand might do other things to you depending on how it's set in MCM.

Hmm crap, how do you check the dialogue topics to figure out which mod is adding it?  I don't get any helpful options/behaviour from my followers ahah

[Taki17]

18 minutes ago, no_way said:

Hmm crap, how do you check the dialogue topics to figure out which mod is adding it?

Either open the plugins in xedit and look at what dialogue lines they add, or start disabling your suspected plugins one by one and see when the dialogue option disappears or yields a different outcome.

[Seeker999]

@no_way, do you have Devious Followers continued? That does have an option to ask your devious follower for help with devices.

[no_way]

1 hour ago, Seeker999 said:

@no_way, do you have Devious Followers continued? That does have an option to ask your devious follower for help with devices.

I don't.  i have dcl, devious lore, devious equip, and better npc support for dd

[Code Serpent]

On 3/13/2022 at 7:04 AM, donttouchmethere said:

Is it wanted that the DL devious lore patch changes DDx body slot configuration for zadx_harness_full_ropeAA?

There might have been a reason when I first made the patches, but I can't remember it. I'll remove those forms from the patches when I next update.

On 3/15/2022 at 2:27 PM, Antaufein said:

The minigame does not work if using a controller since that was changed. Before I could use WASD when using a controller, but now it doesn't work anymore. I don't know if there is a way to detect if a controller is being used and if so, use WASD instead. Or could be a toggle in the MCM to use WASD instead of movement keys. Another way could be to have the possibility to manually set the movement keys in the MCM.

I'll add in options for direct keymapping in the next version.

On 4/15/2022 at 11:02 AM, Krynn said:

Hello, I have two problems since your update and that is that I no longer get a reward when I submit a quest and secondly I have a problem with the bodies of the quest givers, they no longer fit my set devices.

I included some BodyGenData files to give the lore-mongers unique bodies, through the NIOverride bodymorph system, but those were implemented several versions ago. What's likely happened is you installed armor mesh replacers that support the bodymorph system, but your devices meshes don't.

 

Also, are you still having issues with the quests not giving rewards? Have you tested it with all quest givers?

[Krynn]

23 hours ago, Code Serpent said:

I included some BodyGenData files to give the lore-mongers unique bodies, through the NIOverride bodymorph system, but those were implemented several versions ago. What's likely happened is you installed armor mesh replacers that support the bodymorph system, but your devices meshes don't.

 

Also, are you still having issues with the quests not giving rewards? Have you tested it with all quest givers?

 

Ok thanks, I have adjusted the meshes correctly in the meantime. Whether they are all quest givers I can not say at the moment, because I have no real time for the game.

 

 

[SoupCan69]

quests what do i need to do to get it

[Code Serpent]

14 minutes ago, ALEXwood69 said:

quests what do i need to do to get it

Step 1: Find either "Ceremonial Urns", "East Empire Company Crates", "Smuggled Packages", "Daedric Charms", "Old Grimoires", or "Dwarven Vials" in dungeon boss chests.

Step 2: Open one of said items by selecting it in your inventory.

Step 3: Ask an innkeeper about "odd people" that have recently visited.

Step 4: Talk to said "odd person" that was pointed out by innkeeper.

 

OR

 

RTFM.

[naaitsab]

Liking the training things on the quest. How about adding a MCM hardcore option so you can't skip out when you are in a training session? Option in the MCM should also be locked when the quest is active of course.

"This chastity belt is driving me crazy. I can't stand this anymore. Unlock me!" could be countered with something in the lines of "That's the entire point of the training. You agreed to this yourself so you will experience the same as the cult priestesses until your training is complete."

 

As for the rubber collector. A training by wearing a complete rubber outfit would be an option. Perhaps some tie-in when you complete all 3 training jobs of the scholar and you have met the rubber collector she refers you to her.