framework Advanced Animation Framework

[dagobaking]

Maybe no animations installed for the actor combinations you are trying?

[maddadicusrex]

3 hours ago, ercramer69 said:

So after a recent laptop up in smoke issue, I've reinstalled everything.  F4SE works properly, at every launch I see the wall of AAF loading text, I've got mods that call up AAF for animations but AAF won't start any of the animations.

 

I can hit the home key and bring up the wizard, tried doing the cursor on someone and F11 but no luck also tried the selecting characters and still no luck.  Any idea what I'm missing here?

I usually start re-installing Looks Menu, F4SE, AAF, etc. I do not blow everything up. Not necessary. Sometimes, all it takes is to quit game and restart save to sort it.. Also, after you choose partners and positions, do you get the working at it messages under the menu? Never heard of F11 function. Just do Home,Menu, choose partners, right arrow to advance, choose sex, right arrow to start..

[Guest]

8 hours ago, ercramer69 said:

So after a recent laptop up in smoke issue, I've reinstalled everything.  F4SE works properly, at every launch I see the wall of AAF loading text, I've got mods that call up AAF for animations but AAF won't start any of the animations.

 

I can hit the home key and bring up the wizard, tried doing the cursor on someone and F11 but no luck also tried the selecting characters and still no luck.  Any idea what I'm missing here?

Similar issue here. I can start AAF menu by pressing home, I can select characters, but pressing right to progress does nothing. No animations list shows up. I have multiple animations mods installed, everything should be fine (and it was when I was playing few months ago, I installed everything the same way now too).

[calscks]

anyone encounters a problem where you can't bring up the wizard using Enter? this happens right after updating AAF to the newest version.

 

edit: fix'd, just had to restart the game and reinstall AAF. for some reasons Enter key wasn't registered.

[MrToday]

On 6/19/2019 at 7:34 AM, dagobaking said:

The latest versions of AAF and its dependencies work on the latest game version...

Yeah, also I keep updating every mod I have but still nothing happens when I play the game I can't open the wizard and the debug_on should also show the message errors but nothing appears on the screen. I did download AAF correctly, I used NEXUS to download it but I can't seem to make this work, could it be that I'm installing this incorrectly?

I don't really believe that AAF would not work simply because I checked or unchecked an option during installation but... who knows?

I don't have any DLCs so I unticked the boxes for the DLCs, I ticked the "Auto Re-Namer" one and the "Mod Organizer" one, the UnEquip is set to everything and the races are set to All, so I think it is correctly installed

On 6/20/2019 at 7:02 PM, RitualClarity said:

To be honest, I understand but most of the authors here and any tool used is pretty fast to update. What I have done is just turn off Steam updates for a small (smallest amount of time) in the middle of the night when I am fairly sure the computer isn't going to be on. That and using the tools like was mentioned by other(s) I don't have (or haven't had in the past) issues with it updating prematurely.

Yeah I do believe so, plus I keep updating the mods it ain't so hard with MO2

[ercramer69]

7 hours ago, Display_Name12 said:

Similar issue here. I can start AAF menu by pressing home, I can select characters, but pressing right to progress does nothing. No animations list shows up. I have multiple animations mods installed, everything should be fine (and it was when I was playing few months ago, I installed everything the same way now too).

That is the same problem I have, I have all the animations loaded and see them all loading when I start the game.  From a new start I do get the AAF installed popup followed by the themes installed popups.  

 

AAF Violate works all the way up to the point where he animations should start, I surrender the baddies approach make comments strip me then I can go watch a movie come back and still have the hands up surrounded but nothing happening and can't do anything.

 

AAF SEU, I can use dialog to start but the animations never start.

 

MSWL the lover approaches then nothing.

 

I'll try reinstalling like maddadicusrex suggested and report back.

[maddadicusrex]

1 hour ago, ercramer69 said:

That is the same problem I have, I have all the animations loaded and see them all loading when I start the game.  From a new start I do get the AAF installed popup followed by the themes installed popups.  

 

AAF Violate works all the way up to the point where he animations should start, I surrender the baddies approach make comments strip me then I can go watch a movie come back and still have the hands up surrounded but nothing happening and can't do anything.

 

AAF SEU, I can use dialog to start but the animations never start.

 

MSWL the lover approaches then nothing.

 

I'll try reinstalling like maddadicusrex suggested and report back.

What animation packs are you using? Sometimes I am told different, but Atomic Lust seems totally married to AAF. My game would just sit there like yours if I did not install it. Also watch your notifications, often errors show up but do not stay up because AAF considers whether it can bypass or not to perform. I actually experimented for a long time ,installing, uninstalling animation packs and restarting saves to see what worked and did not. AT seems to be mandatory. Are you getting the "working" prompt after selecting partners and sex scene? AAF just about tells you exactly what it is thinking and doing through the entire process.. Also a number of us, frustrated with the long loading times the AAF brain uses, have gone into its settings file to change the wait time from a possible 90 seconds to 30 seconds..(Its' a secret, do not tell) As long as the AAF menu shows it is processing the mating, it will happen. Most of what you are thinking as a glitch is just not being patient...

[walkin]

3 hours ago, MrToday said:

Yeah, also I keep updating every mod I have but still nothing happens when I play the game I can't open the wizard and the debug_on should also show the message errors but nothing appears on the screen. I did download AAF correctly, I used NEXUS to download it but I can't seem to make this work, could it be that I'm installing this incorrectly?

I don't really believe that AAF would not work simply because I checked or unchecked an option during installation but... who knows?

I don't have any DLCs so I unticked the boxes for the DLCs, I ticked the "Auto Re-Namer" one and the "Mod Organizer" one, the UnEquip is set to everything and the races are set to All, so I think it is correctly installed

Yeah I do believe so, plus I keep updating the mods it ain't so hard with MO2

 

2 hours ago, ercramer69 said:

That is the same problem I have, I have all the animations loaded and see them all loading when I start the game.  From a new start I do get the AAF installed popup followed by the themes installed popups.  

 

AAF Violate works all the way up to the point where he animations should start, I surrender the baddies approach make comments strip me then I can go watch a movie come back and still have the hands up surrounded but nothing happening and can't do anything.

 

AAF SEU, I can use dialog to start but the animations never start.

 

MSWL the lover approaches then nothing.

 

I'll try reinstalling like maddadicusrex suggested and report back.

More times than not, when you try to start an animation and everything works right up to the actual scene taking place, but doesn't, it is a F4SE problem.

 

Also if AAF is loading up and you can access the wizard, you can push the delete button and enter administration mode of AAF. Here you can look to see what errors you have if any.

[RitualClarity]

5 hours ago, MrToday said:

Yeah, also I keep updating every mod I have but still nothing happens when I play the game I can't open the wizard and the debug_on should also show the message errors but nothing appears on the screen. I did download AAF correctly, I used NEXUS to download it but I can't seem to make this work, could it be that I'm installing this incorrectly?

I don't really believe that AAF would not work simply because I checked or unchecked an option during installation but... who knows?

I don't have any DLCs so I unticked the boxes for the DLCs, I ticked the "Auto Re-Namer" one and the "Mod Organizer" one, the UnEquip is set to everything and the races are set to All, so I think it is correctly installed

Yeah I do believe so, plus I keep updating the mods it ain't so hard with MO2

Try disabling all except F4SE, AAF, Looks Menu, and one pose or animation mod preferably without any needs of patches etc. Call it using the home key and see if it works. (you should have the "scripts" part of F4se installed in MO for management purposes. (see conflicts and such)

 

Also, you can try to copy a save that you are using and clean it using my guide (part that CG! himself assisted in )  Or start a completely new game play from the steam/mirror section.
 

[MrToday]

2 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

Try disabling all except F4SE, AAF, Looks Menu, and one pose or animation mod preferably without any needs of patches etc. Call it using the home key and see if it works. (you should have the "scripts" part of F4se installed in MO for management purposes. (see conflicts and such)

 

Also, you can try to copy a save that you are using and clean it using my guide (part that CG! himself assisted in )  Or start a completely new game play from the steam/mirror section.
 

I did disable every mod except for AAF and Looks Menu and I ran F4SE through MO2, same happened, mods are loaded and they show up in the mods menu but I press 'Home' key and the wizard doesn't show up, I think it might in fact be the save that I'm using so where exactly do I find this tutorial of yours? I know for a fact that in order to have mods working sometimes you have to start a new game and I was trying to avoid that, I'm new to the game series and I bought the game a while ago but only now I'm playing it more seriously and I got level 23, some really cool development in terms of weapons, armor and stuff and I really would preffer not to lose that if possible. Thank you  

[RitualClarity]

It should be part of AAF in documents. Also you can find the tutorial in my signagure, or search AAF tutorial from @forgets and ritualclarity
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=AAF+t%3Butorial+from+forgets+and+Ritual+clarity

 

Mine is the live link. While there, check into the Discord option so taht you can get a quicker turn around on your possible questions. I find the answers posted there under the support channels there to be quite good and those posting are experienced in tech support and more importantly most current issues. There are authors of AAF mods there as well to help with a more advanced hand if needed.

 

Keep in mind save cleaning is the last resort and if it doesn't work then you will have to start a new game. however, with MO just create a new profile with minimum install and start a new game. your stuff will still be safe in the other profile. There are guide and info on how to create a new profile on the web.  That would be safer for your current setup to resolve the problem. Once figured out.. you can return to your original profile and make the corrections... Yea MO!  lol

[MrToday]

18 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

It should be part of AAF in documents. Also you can find the tutorial in my signagure, or search AAF tutorial from @forgets and ritualclarity
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=AAF+t%3Butorial+from+forgets+and+Ritual+clarity

 

Mine is the live link. While there, check into the Discord option so taht you can get a quicker turn around on your possible questions. I find the answers posted there under the support channels there to be quite good and those posting are experienced in tech support and more importantly most current issues. There are authors of AAF mods there as well to help with a more advanced hand if needed.

 

Keep in mind save cleaning is the last resort and if it doesn't work then you will have to start a new game. however, with MO just create a new profile with minimum install and start a new game. your stuff will still be safe in the other profile. There are guide and info on how to create a new profile on the web.  That would be safer for your current setup to resolve the problem. Once figured out.. you can return to your original profile and make the corrections... Yea MO!  lol

Thanks, I'll be trying that. By the way, I noticed in MO2 when creating a profile there is a setting to 'use profile-specific saves' does that mean that each profile will have it's own save so if I wanted I could make a profile with a save for vanilla and a different profile with different saves for modded? If that is how it works then it might be the best option if cleaning the save doesn't work, maybe even if it works I might end up doing that after all I didn't want to get rid of my old save but also using a male character sometimes ain't the best for mods like AAF.

[RitualClarity]

54 minutes ago, MrToday said:

Thanks, I'll be trying that. By the way, I noticed in MO2 when creating a profile there is a setting to 'use profile-specific saves' does that mean that each profile will have it's own save so if I wanted I could make a profile with a save for vanilla and a different profile with different saves for modded? If that is how it works then it might be the best option if cleaning the save doesn't work, maybe even if it works I might end up doing that after all I didn't want to get rid of my old save but also using a male character sometimes ain't the best for mods like AAF.

yes, it means each profile will have its own save. If you haven't used it the saves are still in your documents folder. you can move them over later if you so choose. (or do so to start)

That is the concept. Create a copy of a profile name it whatever then clean saves, screw around with settings and other things that can cause damage once you settled on a solution you can then go to your good profile and implement those needed changes.  I used that extensively when testing AAF and for other mods in the past. works great. 

As for clean saves, you might be able to find some from Nexus and the like. MO will also check the save forgo you and show if there are any mods that are dependent on them. So far it works quite well. One issue, if the saves are from a previous version of fallout (before update) it might be an issue. Not 100% and haven't experienced it myself but it has been alleged that can happen (guess if there are major changes to the game .. say a major set of patches.. however, for now most updates are due to their stupid CC not fixes to the game. ) Anyway. no harm done except time loss.

[MrToday]

1 hour ago, RitualClarity said:

yes, it means each profile will have its own save. If you haven't used it the saves are still in your documents folder. you can move them over later if you so choose. (or do so to start)

That is the concept. Create a copy of a profile name it whatever then clean saves, screw around with settings and other things that can cause damage once you settled on a solution you can then go to your good profile and implement those needed changes.  I used that extensively when testing AAF and for other mods in the past. works great. 

As for clean saves, you might be able to find some from Nexus and the like. MO will also check the save forgo you and show if there are any mods that are dependent on them. So far it works quite well. One issue, if the saves are from a previous version of fallout (before update) it might be an issue. Not 100% and haven't experienced it myself but it has been alleged that can happen (guess if there are major changes to the game .. say a major set of patches.. however, for now most updates are due to their stupid CC not fixes to the game. ) Anyway. no harm done except time loss.

I did clean my folder and when I loaded the save it showed that message telling me that the game is modded and achievements will be disabled, I assume this is because I did it correctly? But still the Wizard doesn't appear, I don't understant why, I used other mods in the past, even used Crazy's animations and tested the gun and it worked fine everythin worked correctly but AAF is the only mod giving me issues honestly....  

[RitualClarity]

Your keyboard "home" button might not be what is needed. You might need to map it to a different location.  That is part of the guide as well but is quite complex for someone not understanding the concept. Take your time.  After that, I don't know what to tell you.. F4SE installed improperly, (but you did have animations from crazy's gun so doubt that) not updated to current, but you stated that was done, AAF installed through a manager should handle any issues that arise (not a manual install) and keyboard remapping. I can't think if a single thing else except for a pirated game. However, I haven't been doing much on a personal level with AAF for quite a few versions so My info might not be the most current. I'd suggest chatting on Discord support for further info if the above doesn't solve the problem.

[MrToday]

1 hour ago, RitualClarity said:

Your keyboard "home" button might not be what is needed. You might need to map it to a different location.  That is part of the guide as well but is quite complex for someone not understanding the concept. Take your time.  After that, I don't know what to tell you.. F4SE installed improperly, (but you did have animations from crazy's gun so doubt that) not updated to current, but you stated that was done, AAF installed through a manager should handle any issues that arise (not a manual install) and keyboard remapping. I can't think if a single thing else except for a pirated game. However, I haven't been doing much on a personal level with AAF for quite a few versions so My info might not be the most current. I'd suggest chatting on Discord support for further info if the above doesn't solve the problem.

Actually I tried with a new save, starting from scratch everything went fine and AAF is now fully functional, I have some animations already but should I install themes? I have the animations working and everything.

 

By the way I know this is off topic but I don't really know where else to ask, I have CBBE for female and EVB for male character but I've read somewhere that CBBE has 'physics' but they don't seem to function or at least I don't know how to make it work and EVB stays on the 'non-erect' and doesn't seem to change to 'erect' is there any chance that's just part of certain mods like AAF SEU and doesn't work through the wizard or is it a bug / bad configuration / lack of a mod or file?

 

Anyways thank you everyone for helping me out with the issue on AAF  

[walkin]

1 hour ago, MrToday said:

Actually I tried with a new save, starting from scratch everything went fine and AAF is now fully functional, I have some animations already but should I install themes? I have the animations working and everything.

 

By the way I know this is off topic but I don't really know where else to ask, I have CBBE for female and EVB for male character but I've read somewhere that CBBE has 'physics' but they don't seem to function or at least I don't know how to make it work and EVB stays on the 'non-erect' and doesn't seem to change to 'erect' is there any chance that's just part of certain mods like AAF SEU and doesn't work through the wizard or is it a bug / bad configuration / lack of a mod or file?

 

Anyways thank you everyone for helping me out with the issue on AAF  

You have to build your CBBE body with physics using Bodyslide yourself. For EVB reinstall the AAF Compatibilty Patch and make sure to tick the option for EVB morphs. This along with Looksmenu will control the flacid/erect for EVB. When you build your CBBE in Bodyslide also tick the option on the bottom left corner for build morphs.

[RitualClarity]

3 hours ago, MrToday said:

Actually I tried with a new save, starting from scratch everything went fine and AAF is now fully functional, I have some animations already but should I install themes? I have the animations working and everything.

 

By the way I know this is off topic but I don't really know where else to ask, I have CBBE for female and EVB for male character but I've read somewhere that CBBE has 'physics' but they don't seem to function or at least I don't know how to make it work and EVB stays on the 'non-erect' and doesn't seem to change to 'erect' is there any chance that's just part of certain mods like AAF SEU and doesn't work through the wizard or is it a bug / bad configuration / lack of a mod or file?

 

Anyways thank you everyone for helping me out with the issue on AAF  

Congratulations. Now you are much more experienced in diagnosing your AAF issues. Glad to see it works. It was your saves that were giving you the issues.  (one of the possible common issues for this)

The EVB is a body that is being moved to the side for another body and skeleton option. It is part of a new guide that hasn't yet been released. 

2 hours ago, walkin said:

You have to build your CBBE body with physics using Bodyslide yourself. For EVB reinstall the AAF Compatibilty Patch and make sure to tick the option for EVB morphs. This along with Looksmenu will control the flacid/erect for EVB. When you build your CBBE in Bodyslide also tick the option on the bottom left corner for build morphs.

In the future as I understand it .. AAF CP will be moved to the side and EVB morphs and other assets will not be used for AAF going forward for mainstream mod users.

 

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BODY MODS

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These mods require extra work and tools to be installed to get up and running using a tools called BodySlide and Outfit Studio discussed below. The results are a much more flexible and customizable body to use in Fallout 4.

FEMALE

• CBBE  

  • Requires Body Slide for maximum flexibility of configuration options with CBBE.  for females, but isn’t necessary to start. Will work out of the box.

  • Choose the “Nude Female” option (Duh) Any other options are your choice.

• Fusion Girl - Forward

  • Requires ZeX Skeleton (Lovers Lab Link)    (Nexus Link)

  • Bodyslide and Outfit Studio

  • Any CBBE Compatible UV Textures

MALE

• BodyTalk V2 - The Extended Skeleton Edition

  • Requires Bodyslide and Outfit Studio please follow specific instructions on setting up Body Talk using BodySlide. Tutorial found on Nexus page towards the middle of the page.

  • Requires ZeX Skeleton (Lovers Lab Link)    (Nexus Link)

  • Excellent tutorial on the male body here…

TOOLS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR ADVANCED BODY MOD(S)

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BodySlide and Outfit Studio

• Has specific instructions depending on the mod installation and manager you choose to use.

• Requires you to do extra steps to set up the body properly for use by a game.

• Gives a great deal of flexibility in designing the shapes and proportions of the NPC and players bodies in the game.

• BodySlide Tutorial (Here) (Here) (Here)

BODY MOD PATCHES

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Depending on the body mod selection(s) you make, you will need various patches. Also, there are some mod, game, creature, specific patches that are needed for things to work properly. Please install the following as needed or advised and allow overwrite when prompted.

 

• Canine Genitals

• Creature Penises

 

Part of the upcoming changes to the guide that hasn't been released yet. This has section has been heavily worked on with many of the key players of AAF so should be good to go. I only suggest it for two reasons. 1 so that you are up to date and have the body that will be the one used going forward (male) and has more support etc.   as well as 2. you have the links to Body Slide and a few tutorials and guides for it. Keep in mind that Body slide requires some tweaks to what is done when using it with Mod Organizer. Do these and you should have a much better experience. I personally haven't used it before so not experienced in its use. (directly)

Sorry for the wall of text but ..  

Edit: also the formatting.. apparently the source is really different than what is used on the site. It was too large to take a capture of the entire section properly either.

[MrToday]

2 hours ago, walkin said:

You have to build your CBBE body with physics using Bodyslide yourself. For EVB reinstall the AAF Compatibilty Patch and make sure to tick the option for EVB morphs. This along with Looksmenu will control the flacid/erect for EVB. When you build your CBBE in Bodyslide also tick the option on the bottom left corner for build morphs.

EVB didn't work for me but I suppose it's related to it's installation. I'll try to reinstall it and put everything to work properly tomorrow. xD

18 minutes ago, RitualClarity said:

Congratulations. Now you are much more experienced in diagnosing your AAF issues. Glad to see it works. It was your saves that were giving you the issues.  (one of the possible common issues for this)

The EVB is a body that is being moved to the side for another body and skeleton option. It is part of a new guide that hasn't yet been released. 

In the future as I understand it .. AAF CP will be moved to the side and EVB morphs and other assets will not be used for AAF going forward for mainstream mod users.

 

Part of the upcoming changes to the guide that hasn't been released yet. This has section has been heavily worked on with many of the key players of AAF so should be good to go. I only suggest it for two reasons. 1 so that you are up to date and have the body that will be the one used going forward (male) and has more support etc.   as well as 2. you have the links to Body Slide and a few tutorials and guides for it. Keep in mind that Body slide requires some tweaks to what is done when using it with Mod Organizer. Do these and you should have a much better experience. I personally haven't used it before so not experienced in its use. (directly)

Sorry for the wall of text but ..  

Edit: also the formatting.. apparently the source is really different than what is used on the site. It was too large to take a capture of the entire section properly either.

Thank you  was a rough start for sure but I'm starting to understand it for sure.

I also seen Fusion Girl and Body Talk before, as well as ZaZ Expanded Skelleton (ZeX, I believe is called), actually I tried putting those to work today. Honestly ZeX and BodyTalk ain't that new and I didn't quite understant what exactly was the difference between BodyTalk and EVB, Fusion Girl I just found out today as I was looking at ZeX page. So for what I understood BodyTalk is going to replace EVB, is that it?

 

From what I'm understanding (which to be fair is not much since I'm new to the game, litterally and metaphorically), both BodyTalk and Fusion Girl are using ZeX mechanics (which extend the skelleton of the character allowing for more detailed animations, specifically with the adittion of bones, I do understand how skelletons work because I used them in the past myself so don't worry much about it), that far I understood from the posts for each mod already the thing I don't get is, basically CBBE is being replaced by Fusion Girl or is it just an alternative? What are the differences between Fusion Girl/Body Talk and CBBE/EVB? Are the later ones just better/upgraded versions of the previous ones?

 

If they are the future then should I replace EVB and CBBE by them? Are they stable? How do I install them? (because when I did, I the animations working, AAF working but the skin was a mess, I think it was still trying to use a default one and as far as I know it is supposed to use CBBE skins so how does that work?)

Many questions I know but yeah, if I get the chance to update this for the better then that's probably the best bet.  

[RitualClarity]

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So for what I understood BodyTalk is going to replace EVB, is that it?

From what I was told.

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basically CBBE is being replaced by Fusion Girl or is it just an alternative?

Currently not a replacement. CBBE is the one to use currently for the main stream users. (from what I have been told)

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If they are the future then should I replace EVB and CBBE by them?

You should be using or considering using CBBE(women)  and BodyTalk (for males)

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Many questions I know

Discord is the best for this.

[maddadicusrex]

Just to help make things as clear as mud..My male junk works. I use Bodytalk but have not even set up my Bodyslide. My penises line up about 95% of the time without making any new male body. I also use Bustygrl EVB for my women. Again it all works. I sometimes think that there is too much emphasis on changing to the newest and brightess tech toy when the old stuff really does still work fine. Awful lot of patches, special instructions, overambitious and even the not necessary extra mods that we are"required" to use or else our game will blow up. I have started to test dummying down all this extra stuff and guess what, things are still working. Seems like the instructions for AAF are looking like the instructions for our prescriptions. 85% WARNINGS and 15% of what is really needed to play this game...This is not a knock on AAF, but it could be a cautionary tale..☠️

[Halstrom]

3 hours ago, maddadicusrex said:

Just to help make things as clear as mud..My male junk works. I use Bodytalk but have not even set up my Bodyslide. My penises line up about 95% of the time without making any new male body. I also use Bustygrl EVB for my women. Again it all works. I sometimes think that there is too much emphasis on changing to the newest and brightess tech toy when the old stuff really does still work fine. Awful lot of patches, special instructions, overambitious and even the not necessary extra mods that we are"required" to use or else our game will blow up. I have started to test dummying down all this extra stuff and guess what, things are still working. Seems like the instructions for AAF are looking like the instructions for our prescriptions. 85% WARNINGS and 15% of what is really needed to play this game...This is not a knock on AAF, but it could be a cautionary tale..☠️

Our lead creator has been busy in RL for a month so the rest of us have been a little idle, but now he is back on deck for a bit we are ripping into quite a few issues and upgrades. We should see some resolved in next few weeks.

[RitualClarity]

7 hours ago, maddadicusrex said:

Just to help make things as clear as mud..My male junk works. I use Bodytalk but have not even set up my Bodyslide. My penises line up about 95% of the time without making any new male body. I also use Bustygrl EVB for my women. Again it all works. I sometimes think that there is too much emphasis on changing to the newest and brightess tech toy when the old stuff really does still work fine. Awful lot of patches, special instructions, overambitious and even the not necessary extra mods that we are"required" to use or else our game will blow up. I have started to test dummying down all this extra stuff and guess what, things are still working. Seems like the instructions for AAF are looking like the instructions for our prescriptions. 85% WARNINGS and 15% of what is really needed to play this game...This is not a knock on AAF, but it could be a cautionary tale..☠️

AAF is designed to use whatever you want. Realistically and honestly that is the truth as I understand it. It will all work in regards to AAF.  The suggestions and such are for the newer individuals that are using the AAF adult mods (animations etc)  so that they get the results as advertised and many understand what is going on and can guide them with any issues that might arise.  The warnings.. or such as stated are for the noobs that don't have experience with modding Fallout 4 or in many cases any game at all.

4 hours ago, Halstrom said:

Our lead creator has been busy in RL for a month so the rest of us have been a little idle, but now he is back on deck for a bit we are ripping into quite a few issues and upgrades. We should see some resolved in next few weeks.

The SFW guide has been updated and is more streamlined.  It is available now and believe it is in AAF (or where ever @dagobaking is putting the link, I forget where currently. It isn't the NSFW version. The NSFW version will likely get the same treatment due to numerous request (complaints) about content (having too much in links and such and not focused on getting it up and running)  haven't been able to get to do much other than the above section mentioned (but a much better layout and formatting lol) 

[maddadicusrex]

In looking at some of Dago's posting, I do not believe he ever imagined AAF to become this Frankenstien morphing of fixes and patches and newbies that cannot help themselves from downloading everything marked AAF and then expecting to click a button to have everything work instantly. And when that does not happen, they throw out an 150 mod load order at us and plead, help me. After 4 failures, I basically took a handful of mods to start AAF up, testing each addition or subtraction to see what worked. And basically, that is all you need to get AAF going. AAF,a current F4SE, Looksmenu, Basic Theme Packs and Atomic Lust. And voila, it works. We must stop moddlecoddling folks who refuse to play by basic rules that simple is better. If your AAF was never running with 6 mods, why would you think it would run with 25 more added on. We should be telling everyone to start a test save to play with AAF, disable every sex type mod they have, and start off enabling or downloading those primary to just getting AAF to run well. They then come to us for help as they add a pack with patches to see what is next. Simple, effective and a no excuse way for everyone to have AAF in their home. No more AAF "sucks", "too complicated", "the dog ate my mod list", "I will wait for Sextout", "nobody will help me", and "Dago hates me"...I know of what I speak, because some of these excuses were mine when I first tried AAF. (Dago hates me?). We need to protect gamers from themselves by not trying to get all their downloads to play nice, but to get only the necessary handful to do so. 

[MrToday]

I believe I understand things better now but just wondering, Zaz Extended Skeleton is compatible with CBBE? Just asking because BodyTalk requires Extended Skeleton but as far as I know Extended Skeleton only works for BodyTalk and Fusion Girl