framework Advanced Animation Framework

[Cataclysimz]

41 minutes ago, Jappa123 said:

Im so confused  right now i have:

AAF + AAF Compatibility Patches and other stuff from Installation Guide

 

and

 

Four-Play + Four-Play Community Patch

 

Is it ok in terms of compatibility? and how about dongs of fallout i heard that i have to uninstall it so i did it but dongs are not working(point down).

 

Seems that everything works fine except dongs. 

Install EVB from the compatibility patches. 

[Halstrom]

7 hours ago, Sulphur.4724 said:

I think the 905 xml may have a typo or something. 903 works for me. You might try that one if it's still up. I haven't looked into it yet as I haven't needed to so far.

That line didn't change in 0905 as far as I can see no typo, more likely the old XML is still there and hasn't been overwritten by reinstalling Astymma's FFM XML.

Also its possible Astymma's XML is outdated since SavageCabbage's last animation update, but that shouldn't matter if people are using the 0903 or 0905 rather than the manually installed files

[RitualClarity]

2 hours ago, Jappa123 said:

Im so confused  right now i have:

AAF + AAF Compatibility Patches and other stuff from Installation Guide

 

and

 

Four-Play + Four-Play Community Patch

 

Is it ok in terms of compatibility? and how about dongs of fallout i heard that i have to uninstall it so i did it but dongs are not working(point down).

 

Seems that everything works fine except dongs. 

 

As mentioned above. This is all you need to cover the male body

[VonHelton]

21 minutes ago, RitualClarity said:

As mentioned above. This is all you need to cover the male body

If the penis still doesn't work, install nudesuits, but don't activate it, then install AAF EVB over it.

 

I did this & I have erect penis.

 

?

 

 

 

[Badtanker]

5 hours ago, Sulphur.4724 said:

When that happens are you at the character creation screen? Still covered with steam?

No since this last update I haven't been able to start a new character which I'll get figured out.  This is after the load selection screen and it shows your character with the AAF debug screen showing the checks it does.  it gets to a certain point in the load and then freezes. so figured it was something I did wrong on the install of AAF and the few animations sets I'm using along with all those patches.  This is the first time in a few weeks that I reinstalled AAf with out anything FP first. I was using a save that had neither FP or AAF in it at all

[RitualClarity]

1 hour ago, Badtanker said:

No since this last update I haven't been able to start a new character which I'll get figured out.  This is after the load selection screen and it shows your character with the AAF debug screen showing the checks it does.  it gets to a certain point in the load and then freezes. so figured it was something I did wrong on the install of AAF and the few animations sets I'm using along with all those patches.  This is the first time in a few weeks that I reinstalled AAf with out anything FP first. I was using a save that had neither FP or AAF in it at all

The issues you are having could be the game itself or some random left over files (if using NMM , vortex etc)  have you verified Cache yet... and uninstalled and cleaned the game data folder for any remaining files that don't belong there.

 

[Pazz2]

22 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

Forget that.. toss your computer out the nearest window.. It is broke..

 

Anyway, I am not an expert but I believe you don't need to have 4play installed to have 4 play mods work. You just need the AAFCP installed (compatibility patch) and make sure you select the 4 play towards the top of the menu when prompted along with any other mods (animations etc) you might have installed at that time. that is the reason for using AAFCP. It places a esp in the load order to cover 4play.  could be wrong. If so to be on the safe side for testing choose a AAF mod instead.

 

Make sure you have F4SE installed properly in the main folder not data folder (common mistake)  and at least one animation installed with any patches required for that animation. Then test. If you fail at this point then you need to go back to the basics and see where something went wrong. 

 

Finally, might want to consider going here.
https://discord.gg/nUh4YJ

for more live support and coverage. No guarenttes but sometimes there are mod authors and support specialist there doing other work. Might be able to get a pointer or two from them to help move things along.

 

 

I figured it out.

 

I had to disable all mods.

Load and save a game.

Enable all mods.

Load game.

 

Then it did work. Something weird happens I guess when you install AAF in the wrong way, and then save the game.

[Badtanker]

10 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

The issues you are having could be the game itself or some random left over files (if using NMM , vortex etc)  have you verified Cache yet... and uninstalled and cleaned the game data folder for any remaining files that don't belong there.

 

The verifiy Cache was one of the first things I did and it came out ok,  I had already wiped my hd of FO4 other than some of my clothing mods that I had converted over to Universal CBBE before I did a fresh install. that was like a 2-3 weeks ago when I did that. but strange thing happened last night after I read your reply.  I was logged into steam checking out some of the new games and all well I Fired up FO4 through F4SE and hit start a new game. well after like 5 minutes of the load screen I hit my E button and what happened it started up a new game in the bathroom. so now that is fixed I will go through and deleted a lot of my old stuff being as I can do a new game and follow the install directions and get AAF and all going.

[RitualClarity]

12 minutes ago, Badtanker said:

The verifiy Cache was one of the first things I did and it came out ok,  I had already wiped my hd of FO4 other than some of my clothing mods that I had converted over to Universal CBBE before I did a fresh install. that was like a 2-3 weeks ago when I did that. but strange thing happened last night after I read your reply.  I was logged into steam checking out some of the new games and all well I Fired up FO4 through F4SE and hit start a new game. well after like 5 minutes of the load screen I hit my E button and what happened it started up a new game in the bathroom. so now that is fixed I will go through and deleted a lot of my old stuff being as I can do a new game and follow the install directions and get AAF and all going.

The first time I started Fallout 4 I had a problme with loading the starting scene. It ended up being that the game was hanging.  Once I set up the optimizations and such it started working. Perhaps something was causing the game to hang on start.

 

I mostly use a clean save for exit to start from. There are many on Nexus... avoid all that drama in the beginning of the game. A save right be fore leaving the vault is good enough for me

 

[Pazz2]

Is there a way to change actor position alignment? In Four Play I could move characters back and forth with the console command "modpos x/y/z". In the community patch for Four Play, you could do that with numpad I believe. But in AAF, there is no such option. It seems that tcl (ToggleCollision) can't be turned off during an animation.

 

Is there a way to do this? Because I'm using different body types than normal. I'm not talking about just height either.

[Guverride]

On 8/14/2018 at 7:22 AM, bryan_enblover said:

Im experiencing an error code [036] when i run my game, how do i fix this? i followed all instructions

I have the same problem.

[ARabidGrandma]

On 9/7/2018 at 12:10 AM, ARabidGrandma said:

I've had that issue where modded armour pieces arent stripped at all come back. I don't think I added any new armour mods. I'm aware that load order can resolve the issue (workshop items>looksmenu>vio strapon mod>animations>AAF>patches>all armour mods>any other mods).
I had it working about a week ago, downloaded some new mods (around the same time the game updated). then suddenly stripping was broken again.
If anyone could take a look at my load order and give me a hand in tidying it up, i'd be appreciative.
 

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CREAtiveClutter.esp
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RSE_CWSS_patch.esp
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MsAutomatronPartsCollection.esp
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LessAnnoyingHangmansAlley.esp
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LooksMenu.esp
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VIO_Strap-On.esp
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
Mutated Lust.esp
Rufgt's Animations.esp
See You Sleep CW editon - Beta.esp
CumNWealth.esp
AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp
LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
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More Power Armour Mods.esp
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TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp
CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
ConcealedArmor.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
Eli Armor Compendium AE Patch.esp
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CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
PIP-Pad.esp
HAAS.esp
HAAS Replacer Automatron.esp
HAAS - Automatron.esp
Deathclaw Hunter Armor 2LM Nuka World.esp
rfortaleza2.esp
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The Collector's Guides AIO.esp
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CombatStripLite.esp
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I seem to have fixed most armours stripping now, with the exception of the Cross armours (cross_2077, handmaiden outfit, etc) my MO says their eps are flagged as esl's. Could this be why they are not stripping? If so is there a way to remove this flag?

[Varithina]

2 hours ago, ARabidGrandma said:

I seem to have fixed most armours stripping now, with the exception of the Cross armours (cross_2077, handmaiden outfit, etc) my MO says their eps are flagged as esl's. Could this be why they are not stripping? If so is there a way to remove this flag?

Open the mod in xedit, when it has loaded, right click on the record flags and untick the esl box, then exit that should remove it though if it has an esl extension, you can then go and rename it to esp.

[dagobaking]

7 hours ago, Pazz2 said:

Is there a way to change actor position alignment? In Four Play I could move characters back and forth with the console command "modpos x/y/z". In the community patch for Four Play, you could do that with numpad I believe. But in AAF, there is no such option. It seems that tcl (ToggleCollision) can't be turned off during an animation.

 

Is there a way to do this? Because I'm using different body types than normal. I'm not talking about just height either.

Beta 14 includes keys to move the entire animation around. But, it moves all the actors at once and is mainly for moving them out of areas where they might be clipping objects or positioning for screenshots.

 

There are offset features in the XML that would allow per actor adjustments. But, nothing live.

[Halstrom]

1 hour ago, dagobaking said:

Beta 14 includes keys to move the entire animation around. But, it moves all the actors at once and is mainly for moving them out of areas where they might be clipping objects or positioning for screenshots.

 

There are offset features in the XML that would allow per actor adjustments. But, nothing live.

Maybe there could be a Player offset added into settings later for non default bodies?

[dagobaking]

Well. The offset would be different for each animation. So, a universal setting wouldn't really work.

[Halstrom]

11 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

Well. The offset would be different for each animation. So, a universal setting wouldn't really work.

Well not a universal setting but an adjustment to the players offset so that if the player was taller by Z amount all animations would put everyone else Z higher, yeah that would put other actors in the air in the ground an inch or 2 maybe, but at least the dicks would line up. Or is a scale factor a better idea?

Yeah I just realised we wouldn't know whether to move the actors forward or back, some animations the offset would move the actor the wrong way on X scale. I imagine Y position sideways shouldn't ever be a problem as actors should all be symmetrical or at least have the genitals centred.

[dagobaking]

There really should not be much variation. There can't be unless the skeleton is changed.

[Badtanker]

12 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

The first time I started Fallout 4 I had a problme with loading the starting scene. It ended up being that the game was hanging.  Once I set up the optimizations and such it started working. Perhaps something was causing the game to hang on start.

 

I mostly use a clean save for exit to start from. There are many on Nexus... avoid all that drama in the beginning of the game. A save right be fore leaving the vault is good enough for me

 

I will concider the saves. I do use that mod live another life or something like that 

[RitualClarity]

14 minutes ago, Badtanker said:

I will concider the saves. I do use that mod live another life or something like that 

Alternate  life should work as well. I have used it but more for roll plaing not fixing the slow or no start.

[InfinityKage]

How's it going there guys. I appear to have dropped the ball somewhere (not a surprise with me). I had this working fine with just Four-Play but I heard this one was going places so I figured I'd give it a shot. Looks really good but I can't quite get it to work. It's probably something stupid. You'll probably take one look and be like "All you had to do was ___ you idiot."

 

Anyway, here is the problem I run into. I can't remember the exact wording but it was something along the lines of animation won't play because you don't have any animations marked male+female or female+male and set to... something. Can't remember that last part.

 

My mod order and stuff should be attached if I did that right.

 

Thanks in advance.

Mod Orginizer.xls

[Pazz2]

12 hours ago, dagobaking said:

Beta 14 includes keys to move the entire animation around. But, it moves all the actors at once and is mainly for moving them out of areas where they might be clipping objects or positioning for screenshots.

 

There are offset features in the XML that would allow per actor adjustments. But, nothing live.

Could you please add the option to move individual actors? Or somehow enable ToggleCollision command? Because right now, my characters are humping air. ?

Also, where are per actor adjustments in XML? What I need is to move one actor closer to the main actor, but that is different per animation. X/Y/Z -/+ etc. The former option(s) would be better.

[Sulphur.999]

45 minutes ago, InfinityKage said:

How's it going there guys. I appear to have dropped the ball somewhere (not a surprise with me). I had this working fine with just Four-Play but I heard this one was going places so I figured I'd give it a shot. Looks really good but I can't quite get it to work. It's probably something stupid. You'll probably take one look and be like "All you had to do was ___ you idiot."

 

Anyway, here is the problem I run into. I can't remember the exact wording but it was something along the lines of animation won't play because you don't have any animations marked male+female or female+male and set to... something. Can't remember that last part.

 

My mod order and stuff should be attached if I did that right.

 

Thanks in advance.

Mod Orginizer.xls

That's not your load order. That's just a list of what you have installed. If you look under "profiles" in your MO2 directory you'll see a file named "loadorder.txt" in the profile you're working with. Make a copy of that and post it.

 

I do see that you have fourplay installed. It needs to be uninstalled, sort of. @VonHelton did make a video of how to make them work together but it's really not necessary anymore as the only 4play mod that I'm aware of that doesn't work through the proxy is FP_Violate. Even RSE plays nice now. (Mostly) Both AAF and Fourplay installed and active is gonna cause problems unless you're a pretty good mod wrangler.

 

 

[riot_punch]

10 minutes ago, Sulphur.4724 said:

That's not your load order. That's just a list of what you have installed. If you look under "profiles" in your MO2 directory you'll see a file named "loadorder.txt" in the profile you're working with. Make a copy of that and post it.

 

I do see that you have fourplay installed. It needs to be uninstalled, sort of. @VonHelton did make a video of how to make them work together but it's really not necessary anymore as the only 4play mod that I'm aware of that doesn't work through the proxy is FP_Violate. Even RSE plays nice now. (Mostly) Both AAF and Fourplay installed and active is gonna cause problems unless you're a pretty good mod wrangler.

 

 

He could just use AAF_violate and uninstall the FP version entirely.

[ARabidGrandma]

16 hours ago, Varithina said:

Open the mod in xedit, when it has loaded, right click on the record flags and untick the esl box, then exit that should remove it though if it has an esl extension, you can then go and rename it to esp.

Yeah, I found how to do it, and it worked for a few hours, then out of the blue, The handmaiden outfit and the 2077 jacket and gloves stopped getting stripped (other modded and vanilla armours were still stripped) for animations, then when the animation ended, the handmaiden outfit was swapped for the vault jumpsuit that was still in my inventory and the jacket and gloves were just unequipped.
I hadn't installed any new mods ore even closed the game between stripping working, and it not working.
I'm so confused.