SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.66b - 01/18/2024

[Tlam99]

2 hours ago, NoJoker said:

Ostim is taking over soon

There is another difference, Sexlab works

 

[NoJoker]

1 hour ago, Vyxenne said:

Who pissed in your Cheerios? If you're not happy with the state of SexLab, don't use it! Coming into the mod thread and throwing ignorant shade for no reason whatsoever is just wack.

 

Because this core shit everybody uses hasn't been updated for fucking 6 years? It's outdated and badly designed by today's standard, simple as that. If not for SexLab Utility Plus, this core framework sucks even more, heck, the core framework for a DX9 game Sims 4 is being updated every week, the sound effect of OStim already is 10 times better than the desynced sound effect in SexLab. 

 

To sum it up, here's what OStim has that you won't get in SL:
- Superior animation quality
- Superior facial animation 
- Manual as well as automatic control modes
- Per-actor orgasm system built straight in to the main system
- Misalignment protection for better alignment 
- Higher performance, faster start times, no script bloat nightmares
- No jank or crashes
- Easier to develop addons for, and more modular
- Great exclusive addons like OCum
- More modern design, and frequently updated and improved
- AI-generated, context specific mid-scene dialogue with BBLS
- Built-in first person support
- Countless tiny details like proper screen fading, option to drop clothes onto the ground, animated redressing, and more

Edited June 5, 2021 by NoJoker

[tasairis]

13 minutes ago, NoJoker said:

blah blah blah

 

That sounds like a whole bunch of compelling reasons for you to go over to their forums instead of hanging around here.

[NoJoker]

13 minutes ago, tasairis said:

 

That sounds like a whole bunch of compelling reasons for you to go over to their forums instead of hanging around here.

Yall mad as fuck because I spoke the truth, no wonder some great mod authors have stopped developing mods for SexLab, shame.

[Just Don't]

1 hour ago, NoJoker said:

Yall mad as fuck because I spoke the truth

If you enjoy that mod go ahead and use it. Plenty of people use multiple frameworks for similar purposes (not talking exclusively about adult mods here) and they don't bark about superiority and truth. After all, not everyone makes the mods they use a fundamental part of their personality. You're not making any points here, you're just insulting other people's work.

Edited June 5, 2021 by Just Don't

[judge007]

2 hours ago, NoJoker said:

 

Because this core shit everybody uses hasn't been updated for fucking 6 years? It's outdated and badly designed by today's standard, simple as that. If not for SexLab Utility Plus, this core framework sucks even more, heck, the core framework for a DX9 game Sims 4 is being updated every week, the sound effect of OStim already is 10 times better than the desynced sound effect in SexLab. 

 

To sum it up, here's what OStim has that you won't get in SL:
- Superior animation quality
- Superior facial animation 
- Manual as well as automatic control modes
- Per-actor orgasm system built straight in to the main system
- Misalignment protection for better alignment 
- Higher performance, faster start times, no script bloat nightmares
- No jank or crashes
- Easier to develop addons for, and more modular
- Great exclusive addons like OCum
- More modern design, and frequently updated and improved
- AI-generated, context specific mid-scene dialogue with BBLS
- Built-in first person support
- Countless tiny details like proper screen fading, option to drop clothes onto the ground, animated redressing, and more

Higher performance, faster start times - yup, with it's five or six addons

 

That mod is Sexlab Framework recreated

If it's so easy to develop addons for, why are all it's addons SexLab ports? Amorous adventures, Slave Girls, OCum/cumshot.

Frequently updated? In a pigs a$$..

Context specific? All sorts of mods are context specific here.

 

 

I think I smell a TROLL

[TopDogCat]

Wait for it .... ... How old are some of the dependences for OStim?  The game is even old, so it seems you expecting some kind of Einstein space-time continuum miracle to leap forward/backward in time.  I had nothing but troubles trying to use it in VR , so I'm afraid it is not even close to being superior over SL

 

  Still it has come a long way and it does look good, but let's not try to act like it's all that and a bag of chips.

[CALlC0]

On 6/4/2021 at 8:31 AM, Just Don't said:

Which invalid dll? Just use the required SKSE version (quick-note: the 163 beta 8 release works with SKSE 2.0.17 and 2.0.19).

nevermind just reinstalled. It mostly works except I can't enable animations for some reason

[Vyxenne]

On 6/4/2021 at 7:05 PM, NoJoker said:

On 6/4/2021 at 5:49 PM, Vyxenne said:

Who pissed in your Cheerios? If you're not happy with the state of SexLab, don't use it! Coming into the mod thread and throwing ignorant shade for no reason whatsoever is just wack.

 

Because this core shit everybody uses hasn't been updated for fucking 6 years? It's outdated and badly designed by today's standard [...] If not for SexLab Utility Plus, this core framework sucks even more [...] the core framework for a DX9 game Sims 4 is being updated every week, the sound effect of OStim already is 10 times better than the desynced sound effect in SexLab. 

I have highlighted the lies ("factual inaccuracies") in your ignorant rant, since you are apparently intellectually incapable of researching any actual facts for yourself.

 

[SexLab Framework] hasn't been updated for fucking 6 years- False. Work on the next release has been ongoing for quite some time, which anyone who can read should know. The version I'm using was last updated on May 31, 2021.

 

It's outdated and badly designed by today's standard- Please advise when you will release your redesign. Anyone with the skills to have a valid opinion on the design of the mod wouldn't post ignorant crap like you do but would instead offer their talents to the current Dev team. Your post reminds me of that fish on the Sporting Goods store logo- all mouth and zero brain.

 

If not for SexLab Utility Plus, this core framework sucks even more- Funny you would mention that- @osmelmc, the author of SexLab Utility Plus, instead of bitching about issues with SL, fixed most of them and has incorporated many, if not most, of those enhancements in the latest versions of SexLab Framework. So this statement is an oxymoron.

 

the core framework for a DX9 game Sims 4 is being updated every week- So is SexLab Framework- last updated 6 days ago. So your statement cites a moot point.

 

the sound effect of OStim already is 10 times better than the desynced sound effect in SexLab- Finally, an actual quantitative analysis! What audio testing suite did you use to arrive at this score? Not 8x better, not 12x better, not even 9.99976545321x better but 10x better. Thank you for your cogent and malodorous evaluation. Oh, wait... never mind, strike the "cogent" part.

 

Kindly consider "off" as a direction in which you should fuck.

Edited June 6, 2021 by Vyxenne

[NoJoker]

36 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

I have highlighted the lies ("factual inaccuracies") in your ignorant rant, since you are apparently intellectually incapable of researching any actual facts for yourself.

 

[SexLab Framework] hasn't been updated for fucking 6 years- False. Work on the next release has been ongoing for quite some time, which anyone who can read should know. The version I'm using was last updated on May 31, 2021.

 

It's outdated and badly designed by today's standard- Please advise when you will release your redesign. Anyone with the skills to have a valid opinion on the design of the mod wouldn't post ignorant crap like you do but would instead offer their talents to the current Dev team. Your post reminds me of that fish on the Sporting Goods store logo- all mouth and zero brain.

 

If not for SexLab Utility Plus, this core framework sucks even more- Funny you would mention that- @osmelmc, the author of SexLab Utility Plus, instead of bitching about issues with SL, fixed most of them and has incorporated many, if not most, of those enhancements in the latest versions of SexLab Framework. So this statement is an oxymoron.

 

the core framework for a DX9 game Sims 4 is being updated every week- So is SexLab Framework- last updated 6 days ago. So your statement cites a moot point.

 

the sound effect of OStim already is 10 times better than the desynced sound effect in SexLab- Finally, an actual quantitative analysis! What audio testing suite did you use to arrive at this score? Not 8x better, not 12x better, not even 9.99976545321x better but 10x better. Thank you for your cogent and malodorous evaluation. Oh, wait... never mind, strike the "cogent" part.

 

Kindly consider "off" as a direction in which you should fuck.

 

[SexLab Framework] hasn't been updated for fucking 6 years- False. Work on the next release has been ongoing for quite some time, which anyone who can read should know. The version I'm using was last updated on May 31, 2021.

 

Wrong wrong wrong, the last change update was made in 2016, nothing changed. LoversLab will list as updated if you only made changes in the description, if you actually download the latest file, all the files last modified date was on 2016, the same change made to SSE SL years ago, so there were no actual update to the file, maybe you are just too ignorant or stupid to understand.

 

It's outdated and badly designed by today's standard- Please advise when you will release your redesign. Anyone with the skills to have a valid opinion on the design of the mod wouldn't post ignorant crap like you do but would instead offer their talents to the current Dev team. Your post reminds me of that fish on the Sporting Goods store logo- all mouth and zero brain.

 

Yes, it's outdated and bad, I don't have to advise anything, there is no developer for SexLab except osmelmc making fixes to the Framework, as I said its design is bad as it hasn't been updated for years,  OStim has only been developed for less than a year, already outclassed SexLab, more and more addons are coming out, more functions being added every month. I offer my honest and straight up opinion, maybe you are just a SexLab "SIMP", can't take any criticism even it's not directed to you. Weak argument

 

If not for SexLab Utility Plus, this core framework sucks even more- Funny you would mention that- @osmelmc, the author of SexLab Utility Plus, instead of bitching about issues with SL, fixed most of them and has incorporated many, if not most, of those enhancements in the latest versions of SexLab Framework. So this statement is an oxymoron.

 

So what, I mentioned osmelmc being helpful making secondary updates to SexLab, without him, SexLab sucks even more, is that too hard for you to comprehend?

 

the core framework for a DX9 game Sims 4 is being updated every week- So is SexLab Framework- last updated 6 days ago. So your statement cites a moot point.

 

Lying or just plain stupid, file has not updated since the last update in 2016, smh. Point 1.

 

the sound effect of OStim already is 10 times better than the desynced sound effect in SexLab- Finally, an actual quantitative analysis! What audio testing suite did you use to arrive at this score? Not 8x better, not 12x better, not even 9.99976545321x better but 10x better. Thank you for your cogent and malodorous evaluation. Oh, wait... never mind, strike the "cogent" part.

 

Apparently you do not understand metaphor and exaggeration to make a point and you take every shit literally, again maybe just stupid, I don't know. I'll translate it to you though, audio sync in OStim is far better than SexLab desynced audio, which is an essential part of any sex animation.

 

In conlusion:

1. You are ignorant or stupid, maybe both.

 

2. SexLab is an outdated and badly designed sex framework in 2021, main developer abandoned the mod long ago. If not for osmelmc's SexLab Utility Plus and some in-development features that are temporally unavailable in OStim , I would not be bother using SexLab in 2021, eventually, most mods are going to transition to a better framework if no major update is done in the future and that is a fact, I will be making and converting existing SexLab dependent mod to OStim framework where applicable and offer users a much faster and immersive experience.

 

You keep defending it, it's not going to help anyone.

Edited June 6, 2021 by NoJoker

[judge007]

31 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

I have highlighted the lies ("factual inaccuracies") in your ignorant rant, since you are apparently intellectually incapable of researching any actual facts for yourself.

 

[SexLab Framework] hasn't been updated for fucking 6 years- False. Work on the next release has been ongoing for quite some time, which anyone who can read should know. The version I'm using was last updated on May 31, 2021.

 

It's outdated and badly designed by today's standard- Please advise when you will release your redesign. Anyone with the skills to have a valid opinion on the design of the mod wouldn't post ignorant crap like you do but would instead offer their talents to the current Dev team. Your post reminds me of that fish on the Sporting Goods store logo- all mouth and zero brain.

 

If not for SexLab Utility Plus, this core framework sucks even more- Funny you would mention that- @osmelmc, the author of SexLab Utility Plus, instead of bitching about issues with SL, fixed most of them and has incorporated many, if not most, of those enhancements in the latest versions of SexLab Framework. So this statement is an oxymoron.

 

the core framework for a DX9 game Sims 4 is being updated every week- So is SexLab Framework- last updated 6 days ago. So your statement cites a moot point.

 

the sound effect of OStim already is 10 times better than the desynced sound effect in SexLab- Finally, an actual quantitative analysis! What audio testing suite did you use to arrive at this score? Not 8x better, not 12x better, not even 9.99976545321x better but 10x better. Thank you for your cogent and malodorous evaluation. Oh, wait... never mind, strike the "cogent" part.

 

Kindly consider "off" as a direction in which you should fuck.

+1

 

@osmelmc 's work along with the remove Sexlab animations mod, the 2000 slots mod, SLSO and SLAX, makes my personal version of the Framework a work of art.

Credits to @Ashal, @Swe-DivX, and all other contributors.

 

This Line:

Kindly consider "off" as a direction in which you should fuck.

 

is priceless! ?

[Ashal]

1 hour ago, NoJoker said:

 

[SexLab Framework] hasn't been updated for fucking 6 years- False. Work on the next release has been ongoing for quite some time, which anyone who can read should know. The version I'm using was last updated on May 31, 2021.

 

Wrong wrong wrong, the last change update was made in 2016, nothing changed. LoversLab will list as updated if you only made changes in the description, if you actually download the latest file, all the files last modified date was on 2016, the same change made to SSE SL years ago, so there were no actual update to the file, maybe you are just too ignorant or stupid to understand.

 

Oh look, your ignorance is showing: https://github.com/eeveelo/SexLab/commits/development Sure looks like an update 6 days ago.

 

Whether OStim is better or not is irrelevant to the fact that you are acting like a complete asshole. You aren't offering opinions as much as you are throwing a tantrum over other people having a differing opinion than you.

 

Take a vacation from posting as I ban your ability to post for awhile now. And no I'm not doing it to "silence" the truth about ostim, I ignored and let you ramble on for days without intervention but you've only gotten more and more antagonistic over it.

[judge007]

Another troll felled by a tap from the mighty Ban-Hammer +3!

[Vyxenne]

@osmelmc: Your May 28 commit note states the following:

Quote

Enhance the "Debug Spells" to allow to start animations with more than 2 actors. Now you have 10 seconds between casted spells to select all the actors for the animation before start. Is basicaly a fixed version of the MatchMaker now integrate with the SexLab

@Ashal has repeatedly warned that the SL Debug spells are not to be used routinely to start scenes, that they are for actual Debugging purposes only. Accordingly, the rest of us have been sending ppl to Oldrim Matchmaker, which works with no changes in SL-SE.

 

That said, the latest versions of MM feature a 60-second "hands up" delay before executing anything- the scene will begin including everyone tagged before the earliest of 2 events-

• 60 seconds after first actor was tagged
• PC drops hands, i.e. leaves the "ready/combat" stance

If indeed the Debug spells are to take on the functions currently provided by Matchmaker's Irresistibly Attractive Target/Self, would you please consider expanding the delay to 60 seconds with the same abilities to cancel the delay? I have grown so used to it that reducing it to 10 seconds, non-cancellable, would inflict considerable precipitation upon my public outdoor procession.

 

Edited June 7, 2021 by Vyxenne

[zergface]

So... sorry to interrupt your troll competitions vs sl and ostim, but which is the latest SL version up to date, the one posted here? Cuz from what ive seen there's a lot of forgotten buggy mods all over the place, well not surprising but still. Is the Beta 8 the latests version for SSE?

Edited June 7, 2021 by zergface

[OsmelMC]

7 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

the Debug spells

That part was not approved and removed by Ashal.

 

I talked with him about update the MatchMaker instead.

 

In fact I was fixing some issues on my installed MatchMaker and at the end I was so pleased with the results that end just coping the scripts on the SexLab Debug Spells because I use the MatchMaker just for the test.

 

About the time, I don't change the 10 seconds because was not problem of time. In fact the function for the delay wasn't working so I change that to wait 10 seconds between Actors added and each time you cast the spell on one valid Actor the waiting start again. 

Also the new script have more improvements but that's the first avery one noticed.

[Guest]

20 hours ago, Ashal said:

 

Oh look, your ignorance is showing: https://github.com/eeveelo/SexLab/commits/development Sure looks like an update 6 days ago.

 

Whether OStim is better or not is irrelevant to the fact that you are acting like a complete asshole. You aren't offering opinions as much as you are throwing a tantrum over other people having a differing opinion than you.

 

Take a vacation from posting as I ban your ability to post for awhile now. And no I'm not doing it to "silence" the truth about ostim, I ignored and let you ramble on for days without intervention but you've only gotten more and more antagonistic over it.

As an ostim contributer, I really want to apologise for whatever the fuck that moron was on about. We're all here because of the groundwork that sexlab has layed for nsfw skyrim modding, and I certainly don't want anybody to think there is any bad blood.

❤️ sexlab

[judge007]

Classy

[OsmelMC]

6 hours ago, zergface said:

which is the latest SL version up to date, the one posted here? Cuz from what ive seen there's a lot of forgotten buggy mods all over the place, well not surprising but still. Is the Beta 8 the latests version for SSE?

Officially the BETA 8 is the last one but the BETA 9 is being cocked for a while on the GitHub servers and soon will be ready for official release.

[Vyxenne]

25 minutes ago, osmosis-wrench said:

We're all here because of the groundwork that sexlab has layed for nsfw skyrim modding

Quilting this and framing it for the backdrop over my mantel.

[Sairion]

OStim creator here, +1-ing what osmosis-wrench said. Which framework is better or worse isn't important, SL is a very important mod historically, and laid the ground work for what OStim is aiming to become and thus Sexlab should be respected as such. If you want to have pointless internet arguments about which Skyrim mod you like best, do so in your own private discords and such, not on official threads and posts sections. It is very exhausting for everyone ?. Just use what you like

Also, thank you to the creators of Sexlab and the people that have made content for Sexlab for making the NSFW modding community what it is today

Edited June 7, 2021 by Sairion
added thanks

[4nk8r]

1 hour ago, osmelmc said:

Officially the BETA 8 is the last one but the BETA 9 is being cocked for a while on the GitHub servers and soon will be ready for official release.

 

Was curious to try out the Github/Beta 9 version and wondered if SL Separate Orgasm patches for Beta 8 are compatible or still necessary?

[Vyxenne]

1 hour ago, osmelmc said:

BETA 9 is being cocked for a while

Mmmmm... don't tease me....

[Vyxenne]

13 minutes ago, 4nk8r said:

 

Was curious to try out the Github/Beta 9 version and wondered if SL Separate Orgasm patches for Beta 8 are compatible or still necessary?

I'm using the GitHub version and it has controls to enable separate orgasms. I haven't tested them but now that you've brought it up, I will.

[OsmelMC]

38 minutes ago, 4nk8r said:

 

Was curious to try out the Github/Beta 9 version and wondered if SL Separate Orgasm patches for Beta 8 are compatible or still necessary?

The current scripts of the BETA 9 are too different from the ones of the BETA 8 so the patch are not longer compatible. And since this is the framework and not the SLU+ there is none reason to include compatibility with the SLSO.

Almost sure that once released the official version SLSO will have some update with the patch.

 

33 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

I'm using the GitHub version and it has controls to enable separate orgasms. I haven't tested them but now that you've brought it up, I will.

The "Separate Orgasm" option is being there since I remember and his bad behavior is the reason for the development of the SLSO Mod. I am working on that option right now to make it work in the most immersive and realistic way possible without the SLSO, of course won't be the same and will not include the SLSO bar's so still many users will prefer the SLSO instead.