Devious Devices

[some person who shoots]

Hey thank ya'll for the help earlier! the problem stopped popping up so i think what happened is that i think the game thought i was wearing two types of leg restraints and thus kept the effect,cause after reloading the mod it never happened again.

Now i have another small issue but nothing game breaking. when i'm wearing an armbinder it's still keeping my hands and causing them to clip through,anything i should check or do to fix it? lmk if ya'll need my mod order.

This is the bug:

Edited August 6, 2024 by some person who shoots

[Elsidia]

19 hours ago, vaultbait said:

and F4SE adds some convenient functions to make it easier

It's adds to detect equipped forms, where not stored colors and mod configuration. Also reequip back operates with forms, so in result you  equip back the same item but with random color or configuration and default set variables (important for DD).  Also in RC9 is already tools to read it:

1) GetEquippedRenderedDeviceByKeyword

2) GetEquippedRenderedDeviceByBipedSlotIndex

3) GetEquippedGenericInventoryDeviceByKeywordAndOrBipedSlot

 

but all of those works with forms not references.

References is fragile and mostly can be easy deleted by Fallout 4 engine if those not permanent, but permanent references all is stored into memory, that makes more stress to PC memory. And equip device uses forms not references, so you need do some magic to equip exactly the same reference. What is more stress to papyrus (also this method is used into RC9 already)

 

20 hours ago, Dont Tell My Parents said:

So sexual harassment doesn't check what stuff is equipped and so it tries to equip more of the same thing, then you end up with your inventory and pause menu and escape to mod config menus swapping between two or more plugs/etc.

 Read this:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/73925-devious-devices/?do=findComment&comment=4428358

or (and) this:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/73925-devious-devices/?do=findComment&comment=4429290

 

[Elsidia]

7 hours ago, some person who shoots said:

when i'm wearing an armbinder it's still keeping my hands and causing them to clip through,anything i should check or do to fix it? lmk if ya'll need my mod order.

You should build new armbinder bodyslide from DD 20. RC9 files and instal new armbinder animation from this post - old animation have hands free -so you need made it in fist not to see it:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/68652-torturedevices/?do=findComment&comment=3765748

 

[vaultbait]

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

It's adds to detect equipped forms, where not stored colors and mod configuration. Also reequip back operates with forms, so in result you  equip back the same item but with random color or configuration and default set variables (important for DD). 

 

Yes, I was saying that it's not hard to find out whether some DD (or any locked) items are equipped in and/or covering specific slots. Mods that might equip new devices don't need to care what versions or colors are equipped, they can just see there's something from DD equipped (or any locked item equipped for that matter) and avoid trying to equip something else that would conflict.

[BillBellochek]

I didn't see anything mentioned near the download for RC9, but is it compatible with the "Next Gen" update?

[vaultbait]

19 minutes ago, BillBellochek said:

I didn't see anything mentioned near the download for RC9, but is it compatible with the "Next Gen" update?

 

Yes.

[BillBellochek]

3 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

Yes.

Fantastic, thanks!

[Deckard_Blade Runner]

Hi friends, I have a problem I'm using Cursed DD Enchantings - Redux² and it works fine, but it happens that I catch tentacles, and a little later I find a trap with some kind of belt or corset again, and it starts that these two objects change each other in a second. apparently the game can't figure out which item to equip for the character, maybe I missed some requirement? I have DDRC9

[Deckard_Blade Runner]

Также есть вопрос по поводу BodySlide and Outfit Studio to be more precise, the problem is that I have my own body preset , and when the devices are put on, the body обычное FG Body  the question is, how do I fit the devices correctly, because when I select DD in the program, my preset is not there? 

[Deckard_Blade Runner]

18 minutes ago, overlord19950110 said:

Привет друзья, у меня проблема, я использую  Cursed DD Enchantings - Redux² и он работает нормально, но бывает, что я ловлю щупальца, а чуть позже снова нахожу ловушку с каким-то поясом или корсетом, и начинается то, что эти два предмета сменяют друг друга через секунду. Видимо, игра не может понять, какой предмет экипировать для персонажа, может я пропустил какое-то требование? У меня DDRC9

my problem was solved by installing  Skimpy Armor Keyword Resource  I was sure that it was included in MO 2b, but it was not so, so for the future, I want to say check the connection of your plugins, and double-check!)

[Elsidia]

16 hours ago, overlord19950110 said:

Также есть вопрос по поводу BodySlide

DD 2.0 RC9 поддерживает только CBBE и частично Fusion Girl (используя другие моды для ДД) - так что если тело другой формы, то самому надо их конвертировать в эту форму используя Outfit studio. Если же только preset то его надо добавить в ДД предметы, чтобы этот пресет появился в списке.  

[Deckard_Blade Runner]

8 hours ago, Elsidia said:

DD 2.0 RC9 поддерживает только CBBE и частично Fusion Girl (используя другие моды для ДД) - так что если тело другой формы, то самому надо их конвертировать в эту форму используя Outfit studio. Если же только preset то его надо добавить в ДД предметы, чтобы этот пресет появился в списке.  

hi, yes, I also added a preset to dd, but the body is still as usual (it does not change) however, the situation is not critical, I thought that suddenly I was doing something wrong or maybe there is some kind of ready-made FG TOOLS, and after reading your comment that partially supports FG, I will somehow survive this the moment. Sorry if anything, I don't speak English, I use a translator, he doesn't always translate everything clearly

[Elsidia]

15 hours ago, overlord19950110 said:

but the body is still as usual

Вам надо установить конверсию для  фушион. Здесь есть надеюсь рабочее версия фушиона:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/73925-devious-devices/?do=findComment&comment=4042491

Новые костюмы и некоторые фиты не будут работать - transparent catsuit, armbinder, и некоторые костюмы и оковы, сапогы, которые подогнанны чтобы сидеть по верху катсуйта.

 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Elsidia

[Deckard_Blade Runner]

40 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Вам необходимо установить конверсию для фушиона. Здесь надеемся есть игровая версия фушиона:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/73925-devious-devices/?do=findComment&comment=4042491

Новые костюмы и фиты, некоторые не будут работать - прозрачный комбинезон, нарукавник, а некоторые костюмы и оковы, сапоги, которые подогнанны, чтобы сидеть по верху катсуйта.

 

Thanks, that's exactly what I need.

[vaultbait]

4 hours ago, overlord19950110 said:

Thanks, that's exactly what I need.

 

More recently, there's a new option:

 

 

[Deckard_Blade Runner]

On 11.08.2024 at 22:14, vaultbait said:

 

Совсем недавно появилась новая опция:

 

 

Yes, thank you, everything works just fine, I think the author should at least mention this new mod on the main page for those people who use FG

[Deviancy]

I have a wee bit of an issue, the mod installed fine, the NPC shows up at Goodneighbor like a good girl, I can equip the gear and lock it or manipulate the lock, etc, and so on, all of those options work as intended, even the key.  But the minute I engage in a sex act, the chastity belt comes right off with creatures, humans, etc, doesn't matter the species.   I imagine there's a setting somewhere I need to enable?  I do use "Rogg No-Strip Items Manager", I use it to keep collars and boots on.  Maybe that's somehow overwriting the chastity belt? I'll try adding the belt to the list see if that helps, but I don't think it has the ability to unlock the item, could be wrong.

AAF seems to have some odd equip setting when I do a re-install, could that option dictate if its removed or not?  And if, what should it be set for? And what version of AAF is even current?  There are versions of it everywhere, a 1.6, a 1.7 and on Discord it says a 1.0.  Why isn't it just hosted here? And I'm noticing 1.71 conflicts with something in UAP and real handcuffs?  Sexout seemed complex but was so much easier... can't even reset my sex stats with AAF.

Edited August 14, 2024 by Deviancy

[valcon767]

5 hours ago, Deviancy said:

AAF seems to have some odd equip setting when I do a re-install, could that option dictate if its removed or not?  And if, what should it be set for? And what version of AAF is even current?  There are versions of it everywhere, a 1.6, a 1.7 and on Discord it says a 1.0.  Why isn't it just hosted here? And I'm noticing 1.71 conflicts with something in UAP and real handcuffs?  Sexout seemed complex but was so much easier... can't even reset my sex stats with AAF.

 

AAF 1.71 is the last version for pre-NG update (1.10.163) and the AAF 1.0 is for NG (1.9.4 or greater)

 

 

[izzyknows]

2 hours ago, Deviancy said:

I have a wee bit of an issue, the mod installed fine

I'm assuming you installed the base mod, DD 2.0.

Well.... completely uninstall it and install RC9, which fixes a lot of bugs. And don't forget to build the outfits again.

[izzyknows]

49 minutes ago, valcon767 said:

 

AAF 1.71 is the last version for pre-NG update (1.10.163) and the AAF 1.0 is for NG (1.9.4 or greater)

 

 

V1.0 is supposed to work with both versions of the game. Access to 171 beta was removed. Unless you know who to ask.

 

[EgoBallistic]

2 hours ago, Deviancy said:

AAF seems to have some odd equip setting when I do a re-install, could that option dictate if its removed or not?  And if, what should it be set for? And what version of AAF is even current?  There are versions of it everywhere, a 1.6, a 1.7 and on Discord it says a 1.0.  Why isn't it just hosted here? And I'm noticing 1.71 conflicts with something in UAP and real handcuffs?  Sexout seemed complex but was so much easier... can't even reset my sex stats with AAF.

 

AAF 1.0 is the current version and supports both pre-NG and NG versions of the game.

 

Let AAF win any conflicts.  UAP includes some duplicate AAF files, and Real Handcuffs includes an older version of the F4SE plugin included with AAF.

 

Did you install AAF Themes?  That mod includes a protectedEquipmentData file that tells AAF not to remove DD devices.  Otherwise DD items will get removed during animations just like any other clothing would.

[Deviancy]

14 hours ago, EgoBallistic said:

Did you install AAF Themes?  That mod includes a protectedEquipmentData file that tells AAF not to remove DD devices.  Otherwise DD items will get removed during animations just like any other clothing would.

Themes are installed, always were.  I toyed with things, the belts stay on during sex but sex still happens.  I checked Vortex, I was using 2.0.6 hotfix I think, according to mega its 2.0.7 that is the latest version.  Going to start a new game, see if that helps.  If not, I'm totally out of ideas... 

Edited August 15, 2024 by Deviancy

[Elsidia]

11 hours ago, Deviancy said:

I toyed with things, the belts stay on during sex but sex still happens.

Work as intended. In DD 2.0 not included sex filter denied as belt is on, because it's write before AAF included. So there no filter. And even i don't know any idea how prevent sex, if belts are on. Only idea is get AAF sex scene start event and stop sex if belts are on. But it will break sex acts without any warning.

Maybe anyone have ideas?

 

And build working filter will be hard as need read AAF tags - if sex is oral, then allow. There is too many possibilities and never say, that all tags on sex scenes is correct.

PS: In Skyrim that filter is set and people cry, that there no any sex acts as only build into DD. Like if you are tied up, you can't have normal sex acts.

 

Edited August 15, 2024 by Elsidia

[Deviancy]

23 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Work as intended. In DD 2.0 not included sex filter denied as belt is on, because it's write before AAF included. So there no filter.

 

So Devious Devices is purely cosmetic for F4, for the most part? 

Edited August 15, 2024 by Deviancy

[Elsidia]

27 minutes ago, Deviancy said:

So Devious Devices is purely cosmetic for F4, for the most part? 

Devious devices is restraint framework. All other things is up to other mods. You can write mod, what read that belt is on and choose sex scenes, what is allowed (if tags are correct) Devious devices have all functions to do it.

As example Sexual Harassments read, that player wears a belt and take it out before sex scene.