Devious Devices

[deathmorph]

On 11/14/2021 at 10:30 AM, naaitsab said:

MCM patch. Overwrite in the directory *modpath*\MCM\Config\DeviousDevices

config.json 16.97 kB · 50 downloads

 

I am using vortex. Where do you have to add the file there? Named folder is empty.

[bwagdog669680]

On 12/2/2021 at 6:09 AM, izzyknows said:

Yes, they're redundant.

Thanks izzy. I've removed them and face morphs still work. I just hate mod conflicts, takes a lot of time to find the problem.

 

I added the high heels system yesterday, ran the slave heels through body slide and outfit studio. They work fine. Only issue I've found is that reloading a save while I'm in game tends to crash back to the desktop. I say tends, it only happened twice.

 

Bear with me, I'm a bit slow, it seems that if you want the "trip event" to happen you have to be at a certain level of being restrained. Example, leg cuffs + slave heels = trip event can happen. Hobble dress alone = same. Restrictive boots + leg cuffs = same. Is this correct? (just want to make sure I understand)

 

Last comment: jumping while in "Hobbled" state seems to work as if not hobbled. Although you do that T-pose thing in the air. You move at jogging speed in the air and resume bunny hop/hobble movement when you land.

 

Last last comment: I'm about to start my game over to try more testing. Good day to all!

[bwagdog669680]

1 hour ago, deathmorph said:

 

I am using vortex. Where do you have to add the file there? Named folder is empty.

I use vortex also. The path I used was > Cdrive > Program files (x86) > steam > steamapps >common > Fallout 4 > Data > MCM > Config > DeviousDevices. Then just drag and drop the config.json file and replace the older one.

 

Hope that helps.

[bwagdog669680]

Deathmorph, sorry I meant to say also that you pull the config.json file from your downloads folder. The config.json file doesn't get dropped into the drop box on the mod page in Vortex.

 

There also should be the full RC8 download that you CAN drag and drop in the drop box in Vortex.

 

I may be wrong, but I think that is how I did it. 

[Oldwolf58]

Are all these changes/fixes/correction incorporated into the RC8 download now or do they have to be downloaded from here and added to the install of RC8?

 

[deathmorph]

There is no older file there. therefore i am unsure. it only says that the folder is administered by vortex.
i installed the complete rc8 and so far i have not found any errors. However, there is a mistake, I think, which is why the individual file for the modmanager is recommended.

[bwagdog669680]

19 hours ago, Oldwolf58 said:

Are all these changes/fixes/correction incorporated into the RC8 download now or do they have to be downloaded from here and added to the install of RC8?

 

I'm still testing, but what I did was downloaded RC3, RC7, then RC8 (+ the config.json file, which I manually put in the folder see above). As I understand it, you will no longer need the DD mod itself, plus a lot of the patches are included. Face Morphs for the gags, the bunny hop & blindfold effect remover mods are all included and you can set them in the MCM. The RC3 and RC7 might not even be needed. But I had them and it runs pretty good. I've found a couple issues, but no deal-breakers yet.

[bwagdog669680]

Also I am NOT an expert by any stretch. But you're in the right place for help. There are bunch of people here who I'd take their word/advise on fixes. Izzyknows, Naaitsab just to name a couple.

 

Different topic: I found that the new RC updates will mess with the "Belted" quest from deviously cursed wasteland. After getting outta the cryopod I didn't have the wrist cuffs. The quest wouldn't recognise that I picked up the first hairpin and John in the Dugout Inn wouldn't talk to me. I saw in an earlier post that you can console command John to talk to you. I disabled the RC updates before I got into the cryopod, then enabled them after I got outta the vault. That seems to work, and makes it easier to kill the radroaches without getting hurt, and triggering the combat surrender when you get the hobble dress off. 

 

I know you can get through this stuff multiple ways, so I'm just sharing the one I used.

[vaultbait]

26 minutes ago, bwagdog669680 said:

I'm still testing, but what I did was downloaded RC3, RC7, then RC8 (+ the config.json file, which I manually put in the folder see above). As I understand it, you will no longer need the DD mod itself, plus a lot of the patches are included. Face Morphs for the gags, the bunny hop & blindfold effect remover mods are all included and you can set them in the MCM. The RC3 and RC7 might not even be needed. But I had them and it runs pretty good. I've found a couple issues, but no deal-breakers yet.

 

RC8 is a complete archive, so you don't need RC3 and RC7 any longer.

[Elsidia]

17 hours ago, bwagdog669680 said:

Different topic: I found that the new RC updates will mess with the "Belted" quest from deviously cursed wasteland. After getting outta the cryopod I didn't have the wrist cuffs.

This probably is lead to that stroke:

bqs.mcs.libs.EquipDevice(bqs.mcs.Player, bqs.dcw_belted_handcuffsStartInventory, bqs.dcw_belted_handcuffsStartRendered, Pose = bqs.mcs.libs._TD_GenericBoundHands)

Hobble dress and chastity items equiping on you?

@naaitsab in new tortures devices and RC8 isn't changed old animations keywords?

 

[naaitsab]

55 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

This probably is lead to that stroke:

bqs.mcs.libs.EquipDevice(bqs.mcs.Player, bqs.dcw_belted_handcuffsStartInventory, bqs.dcw_belted_handcuffsStartRendered, Pose = bqs.mcs.libs._TD_GenericBoundHands)

Hobble dress and chastity items equiping on you?

@naaitsab in new tortures devices and RC8 isn't changed old animations keywords?

 

Not that I'm aware of but there where some changes made to TD so the hobble animations are usable while cuffed or armbinder.

[Elsidia]

32 minutes ago, naaitsab said:

Not that I'm aware of but there where some changes made to TD so the hobble animations are usable while cuffed or armbinder.

Hmmm. Old bunny hop was compatible with armbinders and cuffs. I remember i hop in DCW at start quest with tied hands. Maybe new bunny walking animation isn't?

 

[naaitsab]

36 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Hmmm. Old bunny hop was compatible with armbinders and cuffs. I remember i hop in DCW at start quest with tied hands. Maybe new bunny walking animation isn't?

 

Could be, but DCW also has quite a number of bugs like the trigger rape scene because you got hit by a molerat. So it needs patching one way or another.

[Daemonbot23]

I've been running into 2 issues. The first I can bypass, which is that whenever a DD gets equipped it locks out fast travel. I can circumvent this with the console, but the other issue is far more annoying. I keep getting surrendered when there is no reason for it. I've been surrendered by a lone feral dog before. I also just surrendered to the bandits outside of the Combat Zone despite 2 being dead and the other 2 at about half health. Is there a way to change the surrender trigger parameters, perhaps through the config?

[Elsidia]

34 minutes ago, Daemonbot23 said:

Is there a way to change the surrender trigger parameters, perhaps through the config?

This is another mod Deviously Cursed Wasteland and no have any relation for DD or DD RC8. Surrender is in that mod and those are bugged. DCW have no fixes.  I add many fixes for DCW, but only for me and some fixes related to combat surrender need modified DD. As there is DD RC8 those fixes not work nether with  DD 2.0 or DD RC8.

UPD: Fast travel is disabled when some of DCW quest item is equipped.

 

Edited December 5, 2021 by Elsidia

[Daemonbot23]

28 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

This is another mod Deviously Cursed Wasteland and no have any relation for DD or DD RC8. Surrender is in that mod and those are bugged. DCW have no fixes.  I add many fixes for DCW, but only for me and some fixes related to combat surrender need modified DD. As there is DD RC8 those fixes not work nether with  DD 2.0 or DD RC8.

UPD: Fast travel is disabled when some of DCW quest item is equipped.

 

so basically I need to remove DCW, since it's not working properly. Thanks for the help.

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, Daemonbot23 said:

Is there a way to change the surrender trigger parameters, perhaps through the config?

Turn it off. set dcw_enableCombatSurrender to 0

 

[bwagdog669680]

23 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

RC8 is a complete archive, so you don't need RC3 and RC7 any longer.

I'll remove them. Thanks!

 

I see from the past few comments that DCW has a lot of issues. So that mod is probably causing the ones I've recently found. Namely movement speed gets seriously jacked with when you have a hobble dress on or get put into one when you combat surrender. I've had it go both ways super slow movement and super fast (which was fun for a bit). Ultimately I would always have to reload a save to resolve this. It's a shame, I really like the idea of trapped boxes, and getting drug off to some random place all tied up. I just don't like all the bugs that come with it.

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, Daemonbot23 said:

so basically I need to remove DCW, since it's not working properly.

If you still want to remove this mod do when all related DCW quest are stopped and any DCW items are off. Also save still be bugged of DCW scripts inside. Or disable combat surrender as izzyknows recommend.

Edited December 5, 2021 by Elsidia

[Elsidia]

2 minutes ago, bwagdog669680 said:

Namely movement speed gets seriously jacked with when you have a hobble dress

This is not DCW bug but new DD RC8 feature: when you wear a hobble dress speed is low. You need remove this dress legally and speed returns to normal

Edited December 5, 2021 by Elsidia

[Elsidia]

14 minutes ago, bwagdog669680 said:

DCW has a lot of issues

Not so much:

1) Bugged combat surrender if you wear a catsuit.

2) Bugged combat surrender bleedout bug if player are essential.

3) Bugged combat surrender teleports you in wrong place (starter vault) due to locations and mechanics bug.

Other bugs are more cosmetics, many of it related to old DD 2.0 version (as i understand some of those bugs are fixed into DD RC8 version. Can say of all, because i don't have installed RC8)

Some bugs, what not bugs but logical issue.

Some bugs not bugs, but related DCW work. (as example If you start Jack the Belter quest fast travel is blocked as your punishment in that quest)

If need more info of my found bugs, fell free to ask.

Edited December 5, 2021 by Elsidia

[bwagdog669680]

5 hours ago, Elsidia said:

This probably is lead to that stroke:

bqs.mcs.libs.EquipDevice(bqs.mcs.Player, bqs.dcw_belted_handcuffsStartInventory, bqs.dcw_belted_handcuffsStartRendered, Pose = bqs.mcs.libs._TD_GenericBoundHands)

Hobble dress and chastity items equiping on you?

@naaitsab in new tortures devices and RC8 isn't changed old animations keywords?

 

Hobble dress does equip. The chastity items do not. I have to get the hobble dress off then manually equip them. Once I do that, belted quest runs fine. BTW I don't even mess with the Jack The Belter quest. I just disable that prewar.

[bwagdog669680]

7 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Not so much:

1) Bugged combat surrender if you wear a catsuit.

2) Bugged combat surrender bleedout bug if player are essential.

3) Bugged combat surrender teleports you in wrong place (starter vault) due to locations and mechanics bug.

Other bugs are more cosmetics, many of it related to old DD 2.0 version (as i understand some of those bugs are fixed into DD RC8 version. Can say of all, because i don't have installed RC8)

Some bugs, what not bugs but logical issue.

Some bugs not bugs, but related DCW work. (as example If you start Jack the Belter quest fast travel is blocked as your punishment in that quest)

If need more info of my found bugs, fell free to ask.

Ah. Good to know. Thanks for the reply. I'll keep testing.

[Elsidia]

1 minute ago, bwagdog669680 said:

The chastity items do not. I have to get the hobble dress off then manually equip them.

Strange. Or you have damaged DD or DCW installation or some equip functions are changed into DD RC8 version and script failed to equip those.  As new scripts are incompatible with DCW.

100% it must work with DD 2.0 (old) You can try install it. If still not work, then you have some incompatible mods with DCW installed or DCW is damaged.

Sorry i can't test DD RC8 version with DCW as i can't install DD RC8 on my Fallout 4.

 

[izzyknows]

2 hours ago, bwagdog669680 said:

Namely movement speed gets seriously jacked with when you have a hobble dress on or get put into one when you combat surrender.

RC8 has an MCM setting to adjust the speed. It also has a Debug option in case it gets stuck, but so far RC8 has been good about resetting the player speed multiplier.