Devious Devices - Expansion

[ShenGo]

Why am I seeing these on NPCs and how do I get them to remove them??? I have assets, expansion, and integrated, I thought they could only be applied through SexLab interactions, and the only SexLab mods I have allow for sex between my female PC and male NPCs, so how did Mirabelle from the college end up with these equipped forever more?

 

She's wearing buckled high heels that can only be from this mod, since all my clothing mods are more lore friendly than these, and her inventory viewed through console commands doesn't list these. Just her vanilla college robes and boots (both listed as 'worn'), and the book she's reading. And since the items in this mod were built for my PC's body and she's wearing vanilla robes, there's a 6” gap between her legs and feet.  

 

I used the "resetinventory" command and although it unequipped a cloak applied by the "Wet and Cold" mod (so I know it worked), the silly bondage heels remain, which is another indication that they're from this mod, since they're impossible to remove. >.<

 

Edit: Oh, awesome, ALL the women in Winterhold are wearing these and similar. Guess I'm installing this even though it was a requirement of something else. *Sigh*

[BabsStabs]

16 hours ago, twsnider1138 said:

Are you also running Slaverun by chance? I know that one of the settings, the guard follower quest I believe, was buggering up that for me as well.

I'm not running Slaverun, unfortunately. I've listed my load order below in-case anyone had similar problems arising from a different mod.

 

After doing some more testing, though, I've figured out that the animations for straitjackets work as intended whenever equipped by a mod or from my inventory. Stocks, armbinders, and elbowbinders seem to be the only ones that cause problems. Additionally, the non-devious device items such as the various rope bondage items from ZaZ Animation Pack also have their animations work normally. I'm not sure if any of this helps find the cause or not, but here's hoping.

 

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00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.14]
06  Falskaar.esm
07  ApachiiHair.esm
08  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
09  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.62]
0A  SexLabAroused.esm  [Version 2.8]
0B  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
0C  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]
0D  Devious Devices - Integration.esm
0E  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
0F  NoFriendlyFire.esm
10  SkyrimChainBeasts.esm
11  Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm  [Version No]
12  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
13  Change Follower Outfits Redux.esp
14  Change Follower Outfits Redux -- Dawnguard.esp
15  Change Follower Outfits Redux -- Hearthfire.esp
16  Change Follower Outfits Redux -- Dragonborn.esp
17  RaceMenu.esp
18  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
19  SkyUI.esp
1A  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
1B  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
1C  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
1D  Skyrim Romance Animated.esp
1E  Captured Dreams.esp
1F  sanguinesDebauchery.esp
20  Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp
21  AchieveThat.esp
22  Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
23  Bandit_Honeypot.esp
24  SimpleSlavery.esp
25  SkyrimChainBeastsIntegration.esp
26  SexLab-Parasites.esp
27  SexLab_Dialogues.esp
28  RabbitHole.esp
29  Arachnophobia.esp
2A  HelmetToggle.esp
2B  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
2C  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
2D  SOSRaceMenu.esp
2E  zzEstrus.esp
2F  EstrusChaurus.esp
30  FNISspells.esp
31  TKDodge.esp
32  25XCarryWeight.esp
33  More Hair Colors.esp
34  NoFriendlyFire.esp
35  dD Enchanted Chests.esp
36  FNIS.esp
37  KS Hairdo's.esp
38  magic overhaul.esp
39  XPMSE.esp
3A  Smelting - Legendary.esp
3B  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
3C  SkyrimChainBeastsDB.esp
3D  Devious Devices For Him.esp
3E  ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp
3F  Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
40  Deviously Cursed Loot Patch For Him.esp
41  DD - BRRF_Patch - Cursed Loot.esp
42  DD For Him - Captured Dreams patch.esp
43  Devious Devices - Equip.esp
44  RaceMenuPluginRagnaroc.esp
45  FNISSexyMove.esp
46  Skyrim+ALL DLC.esp
47  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
48  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]
49  Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp
4A  FNIS_PCEA2.esp
4B  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.1.7]
4C  ccas_starts.esp
4D  ImmerSlave.esp
4E  Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
4F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, ShenGo said:

Why am I seeing these on NPCs and how do I get them to remove them??? I have assets, expansion, and integrated, I thought they could only be applied through SexLab interactions, and the only SexLab mods I have allow for sex between my female PC and male NPCs, so how did Mirabelle from the college end up with these equipped forever more?

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Edit: Oh, awesome, ALL the women in Winterhold are wearing these and similar. Guess I'm installing this even though it was a requirement of something else. *Sigh*

My only guess is that you didn't start a new game and you have some other mod changing what NPCs are wearing. Changing load order mid-playthrough is risky.

[crococat]

Have problems with one item: Rough Wirst and Elbow Rope Bindings (tight). When it is equipped on PC it is seen visually and animations are playing, but in inventory it is not equipped and game does not recognise it as equipped. DCL cheat removes all exept this and tells dditems=0. When not equipped, this item could not be dropped (game crash immediately) and could not be placed in conteiner (equippes instead). After it eqipped while trying to place in chest, it could be unequipped normally and then placed in chest.

[BabsStabs]

2 hours ago, crococat said:

Have problems with one item: Rough Wirst and Elbow Rope Bindings (tight). When it is equipped on PC it is seen visually and animations are playing, but in inventory it is not equipped and game does not recognise it as equipped. DCL cheat removes all exept this and tells dditems=0. When not equipped, this item could not be dropped (game crash immediately) and could not be placed in conteiner (equippes instead). After it eqipped while trying to place in chest, it could be unequipped normally and then placed in chest.

It's possible this is the wrong mod for that. I don't seem to have that item in my game, but I do have DDX and DCL installed. If it's not from either of those mods, then that might be why DCL doesn't fix it.

[crococat]

It is from DD Expantion, i found it there by AddItem

[ShenGo]

On 4/6/2019 at 2:20 PM, Zaflis said:

My only guess is that you didn't start a new game and you have some other mod changing what NPCs are wearing. Changing load order mid-playthrough is risky.

This playthrough is only a week old, and DD (as well as all but a few of my other mods, and 100% of my SexLab mods) has been installed since I left Helgen, yet I enter the college for the first time and they all look like hookers in a blizzard, lol. The only changes I've made to load order were ones that were required either because I added a new mod, or because another mod wasn't working right where it was positioned (since LOOT doesn't work as well anymore, so I mostly have to just use my own judgement on load order now).

 

I removed this mod, and now I can use the "resetinventory" command and they'll wear regular clothes, though I wasn't too thrilled having to remove a mod mid-playthrough. I try to avoid it wherever possible.

[LazyBoot]

3 hours ago, ShenGo said:

This playthrough is only a week old, and DD (as well as all but a few of my other mods, and 100% of my SexLab mods) has been installed since I left Helgen, yet I enter the college for the first time and they all look like hookers in a blizzard, lol. The only changes I've made to load order were ones that were required either because I added a new mod, or because another mod wasn't working right where it was positioned (since LOOT doesn't work as well anymore, so I mostly have to just use my own judgement on load order now).

 

I removed this mod, and now I can use the "resetinventory" command and they'll wear regular clothes, though I wasn't too thrilled having to remove a mod mid-playthrough. I try to avoid it wherever possible.

This mod should not be putting devices on people automatically, if they are wearing devices, that's the result of another mod.

[Hamcan]

I apologize if this is a known bug, but some of the items from this mod render the covered areas of my character invisible when equipped. I've got no idea what could be causing this problem, and would appreciate any advice.

[SleepyJim]

1 hour ago, Hamcan said:

I apologize if this is a known bug, but some of the items from this mod render the covered areas of my character invisible when equipped. I've got no idea what could be causing this problem, and would appreciate any advice.

Have you built the device meshes in BodySlide? This is required or else you will see what your screenshots are showing - invisible devices (because you don't have the meshes for most of them until you build them) and when the device mesh replaces a body part, or the entire body, that leads to those parts disappearing.

 

There's a tutorial here if you need one, and there are other guides out there as well.

[Hamcan]

9 hours ago, SleepyJim said:

Have you built the device meshes in BodySlide? This is required or else you will see what your screenshots are showing - invisible devices (because you don't have the meshes for most of them until you build them) and when the device mesh replaces a body part, or the entire body, that leads to those parts disappearing.

 

There's a tutorial here if you need one, and there are other guides out there as well.

 

They don't seem to be showing up in the bodyslide batch build menu, which is a bit odd. It's worked just fine the previous times I've installed it, but now that I think about it this is the first time I've tried doing it using Vortex. Maybe that's the problem?

 

EDIT: Nevermind, figured it out. Had to relink the file to Vortex.

[Guest]

Excuse me but can we get more Collars and leather cuffs like the ones in the following pictures please?

 

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Collars:

 

Bell Collar

 

thick leather belt collar

 

pink leather collar with heart shaped padlock

 

Brown leather dog collar

 

Thicker Leather Dog Collar

 

 

Leather Shock Collar with Shocking device

 

Nylon Dog Collar

 

Leather Belt Cuffs for wrists, upper arms, thighs, and ankles.

 

 

Misc Requests:

a More futuristic looking collar with rainbow edges like this one

 

and finally not really a restraint but more like a bdsm themed accessory its a black leather anklet with a padlock, if you can make two apparel items one for each ankle rather than make one apparel item that puts both on at once would be awesome!

 

 

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[olonolo]

I've installed DDA, DDI, and DDX 4.2 correctly (I think) ran Bodyslide, FNIS etc. In game the devices show up in the 'Add Item Menu' and they all fit my NPC's well, and the animations are working. My problem is: I would like to get a 'Black Ebony Chastity Belt Open' but it doesn't show up in the Add Item Menu. The list is also missing the Red, White and Silver chastity belts. DDX has a gold chastity belt that's closed but I think that is the only belt showing. DDA shows a steel padded chastity belt, both closed and open and I tried converting these to ebony on the tanning rack by reading the book, using Ebonite Solution etc. but the steel belt does not show up in the tanning rack menu so I'm not given that option. Is there any way of getting these Ebonite belts? Thanks in advance for your help.

[SleepyJim]

14 hours ago, olonolo said:

I've installed DDA, DDI, and DDX 4.2 correctly (I think) ran Bodyslide, FNIS etc. In game the devices show up in the 'Add Item Menu' and they all fit my NPC's well, and the animations are working. My problem is: I would like to get a 'Black Ebony Chastity Belt Open' but it doesn't show up in the Add Item Menu. The list is also missing the Red, White and Silver chastity belts. DDX has a gold chastity belt that's closed but I think that is the only belt showing. DDA shows a steel padded chastity belt, both closed and open and I tried converting these to ebony on the tanning rack by reading the book, using Ebonite Solution etc. but the steel belt does not show up in the tanning rack menu so I'm not given that option. Is there any way of getting these Ebonite belts? Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Well, only leather items have ebonite variations in the core DDa/DDi/DDx mods; none of the metal restraints do. (If wearing a corset, any worn belt will change to match it though.)

 

If something doesn't show up in the AddItemMenu list for a mod it's because it doesn't exist in that mod as a playable item. Are you thinking of restraints from another mod, like DD Equip, Cursed Loot or Captured Dreams?

[Grey Cloud]

Is there a patch from 4.1 to 4.2 for those of us who don't have unlimited downloads and don't want to download another .99GB just for a few changes?

[olonolo]

7 hours ago, SleepyJim said:

 

Well, only leather items have ebonite variations in the core DDa/DDi/DDx mods; none of the metal restraints do. (If wearing a corset, any worn belt will change to match it though.)

 

If something doesn't show up in the AddItemMenu list for a mod it's because it doesn't exist in that mod as a playable item. Are you thinking of restraints from another mod, like DD Equip, Cursed Loot or Captured Dreams?

Hi SleepyJim, thanks for replying. Yeah, I unzipped all the DD stuff and yes there are no ebonite versions of the belt in the core files. However:

 

1. There is a steel belt (open and closed) in DDA that you should be able to change the texture on to ebony. I seem to recall in the earlier versions of DD you were able to do this. Why have the book (which allows you to craft chastity belts) and the ebonite solutions if you can't use them. In this version of DD the solutions are usable on other items, why not the belt?

2. A standalone gold ebony belt (closed only) already exists in DDX. It would be simple to make the black, red and white ebony textures apply to that mesh as well.

3. Yes, I'm aware that combining the belt with a corset will change the belt texture to match the corset, which is all the more frustrating because you know the ebony textures exist for the belt. It doesn't make any sense.

4. I'm 100% sure that I crafted standalone ebony belts in all the colours in previous versions of DD.

5. And finally, yes Captured Dreams have the belts in all the colours. Not sure how that works.

 

Can't help but feel that something is screwed up here. The books, the key to the forbidden bookshelf, the note on Urag's desk all exist in this version even though the quest is no longer available. The ebonite solution, the red and white dyes are available and work on some items but not on all. Anyway, enough ranting.

 

I wonder if DD Equip would be compatible with this version of Devious Devices. The only problem is it's yet another mod added to the list.

[Grey Cloud]

I'm not sure if this is the correct place but . . .

Just installed all this and Bodyslided but on loading the game I've got this:

According to the various MCMs she is not wearing anything DD. She can move and is doing an idle for wearing a yoke. Walks and jumps too.

[Zaflis]

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

I'm not sure if this is the correct place but . . .

Just installed all this and Bodyslided but on loading the game I've got this:

 

According to the various MCMs she is not wearing anything DD. She can move and is doing an idle for wearing a yoke. Walks and jumps too.

Did you run FNIS? And if yes, do show its log. There shouldn't be any warnings displayed.

[SleepyJim]

14 hours ago, olonolo said:

Hi SleepyJim, thanks for replying. Yeah, I unzipped all the DD stuff and yes there are no ebonite versions of the belt in the core files. However:

 

1. There is a steel belt (open and closed) in DDA that you should be able to change the texture on to ebony. I seem to recall in the earlier versions of DD you were able to do this. Why have the book (which allows you to craft chastity belts) and the ebonite solutions if you can't use them. In this version of DD the solutions are usable on other items, why not the belt?

2. A standalone gold ebony belt (closed only) already exists in DDX. It would be simple to make the black, red and white ebony textures apply to that mesh as well.

3. Yes, I'm aware that combining the belt with a corset will change the belt texture to match the corset, which is all the more frustrating because you know the ebony textures exist for the belt. It doesn't make any sense.

4. I'm 100% sure that I crafted standalone ebony belts in all the colours in previous versions of DD.

5. And finally, yes Captured Dreams have the belts in all the colours. Not sure how that works.

 

Can't help but feel that something is screwed up here. The books, the key to the forbidden bookshelf, the note on Urag's desk all exist in this version even though the quest is no longer available. The ebonite solution, the red and white dyes are available and work on some items but not on all. Anyway, enough ranting.

 

I wonder if DD Equip would be compatible with this version of Devious Devices. The only problem is it's yet another mod added to the list.

 

All I can say is that I've been using the three core DD mods for a few years in almost every game I play, and I honestly can't remember ever being able to change the colours of the metal belts. As far as I can recall ebonite solutions have only ever been used to modify leather/ebonite items. And while textures do of course exist for the corset belts in black, white and red, they use completely different meshes to the standalone belts, which need different textures. If you tried to apply a corset belt's texture to a standard belt you'd likely end up with a patchwork mess.

 

Hopefully one of the DD team can correct me if I'm wrong about any of that, and to be fair I haven't touched the forbidden bookcase for a long time - even since long before the quests were removed - so I might have missed changes in how the devices are crafted.

[Grey Cloud]

9 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Did you run FNIS? And if yes, do show its log. There shouldn't be any warnings displayed.

Yes, I ran FNIS. The output file does not show any errors or warnings. Or are you referring to some other FNIS log file?

[Psalam]

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28 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Yes, I ran FNIS. The output file does not show any errors or warnings. Or are you referring to some other FNIS log file?

 

I think he's just asking for what we always ask for on the Technical threads. Just "copy and paste" everything from when you generate FNIS. If you say it's normal I'm sure it is but Zaflis (and others reading this) don't know you the way I do.

[Grey Cloud]

5 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I think he's just asking for what we always ask for on the Technical threads. Just "copy and paste" everything from when you generate FNIS. If you say it's normal I'm sure it is but Zaflis (and others reading this) don't know you the way I do.

Thanks. I thought this would be a simple, well-known problem caused by something I've done or not done.

[Psalam]

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Just now, Grey Cloud said:

Thanks. I thought this would be a simple, well-known problem caused by something

 

The only reference I've found, so far, is from Kimy. She said (about a year ago) that this can be caused if a mod tells DD to use a binder but isn't specific about what to use (that is, it is a problem with referencing DDx. Are you using any older mod that might have an issue like that?

[worik]

15 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Just installed all this and Bodyslided but on loading the game I've got this:

I've had this once with the armbinder idle when there was no armbinder .... ?

It can take a while to go through my notes and memories to find it and what I did to get rid of it.

RL is calling in an hour

 

My stomach tells me something with the default idle is messed up. Maybe that's a thread to follow. You have PCEA2 running? MCM set/reset the idle maybe ? "Simple actions" is another mod that intervenes in the idles ... maybe I fixed it by just entering/leaving one of those actions.

[Psalam]

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12 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Thanks. I thought this would be a simple, well-known problem caused by something I've done or not done.

 

Does her menu show she has a yoke? Does she have one listed on the left side of the UI screen when you bring it up in the console (these are usually listed in red)? While you have that up, what was the last mod that impacted her?