Bazinga Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, gregathit said: No, you originally wrote surgical mask. So who is trolling who? ROFL!!! And yes, change that mask when it becomes damp. Or not, I don't give a shit. This is a surgical mask. I see them everywhere and I buy this shit myself. You are expected to use them once and then discard them. The main problem might be that people rarely do that.
RitualClarity Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Kendo 2 said: SOMEONE in this thread is CCP. 1 hour ago, Kendo 2 said: This share-holder decision lost my company close to 1 million dollars and my personal gross is in the negative. YES I'm pissed, especially when some genocide-loving racist shill comes waddling in here to try and correct people about China's intentional involvement in sabotaging the whole planet. I am so sorry for what happened to you. I fucking sucks that shit like that goes on.
RitualClarity Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Bazinga said: This is a surgical mask. I see them everywhere and I buy this shit myself. You are expected to use them once and then discard them. The main problem might be that people rarely do that. They also don't dispose of them properly, remove them properly and in some cases store them properly (like hanging from your fucking rear view mirror waiting for the next time it is needed). They also don't wear them properly.. magically thinking that just covering there mouths leaving their noses out. If you are going to wear something to protect you... at least wear it properly. On that note.. one of the best ways to prevent any disease transmission is washing your hands. Still today you can go to the washroom with someone all protected (mask gloves... yes, while they take a piss etc) and walk out without cleaning up. Constant fighting with the surgical mask touching it then their face, nose, eyes. If there was any protective use of the above ... gloves, mask, it is fuck all useful with actions like that. Protective gear.. in order for it to work properly .. you have to use it properly. When you don't.. YOU ACTUALLY CAN INCREASE YOUR RISK. And NO I am not going to give resources on the above. Google it yourself. Want to argue with me about my above statement... I don't give a fuck and you are wasting your time. Feel free.
Darkpig Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 I would feel sorry for the oil industry but I don't.
Kendo 2 Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Darkpig said: I would feel sorry for the oil industry but I don't. Then evidently you don't need food or electricity. Oil and natural gas makes EVERYTHING you do possible; including posting ignorant shit on the internet.
Darkpig Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Kendo 2 said: Then evidently you don't need food or electricity. Oil and natural gas makes EVERYTHING you do possible; including posting ignorant shit on the internet. You don't like what I have to say? TOUGH SHIT. Its an easily replaceable industry and everybody knows it.
Kendo 2 Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 It's easily replaceable....yeah....suuuuure it is. We'll all ride unicorns to work.
gregathit Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Darkpig said: Its an easily replaceable industry and everybody knows it. This is blind ignorance. You clearly don't realize how many products are made with oil. And replaceable? With what? Magical fairy dust? Until battery technology makes MASSIVE improvements on storage capacity and lifetime there is no other option. But hey, wouldn't want to let a little thing like science, common sense or facts get in the way. There is no viable alternative with today's technology. Here is some night reading for you: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/oil-isnt-dead-just-look-at-the-data A partial list of 144 products made from oil: https://www.innovativewealth.com/inflation-monitor/what-products-made-from-petroleum-outside-of-gasoline/ The oil industries opinion: https://www.shell.com/energy-and-innovation/the-energy-future/scenarios/shell-scenario-sky/could-society-reach-the-goals-of-the-paris-agreement/can-renewables-replace-fossil-fuels.html
MadMansGun Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 fuck that solar/wind/tidel power shit, Thorium nuclear power is what we need.
gregathit Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, MadMansGun said: fuck that solar/wind/tidel power shit, Thorium nuclear power is what we need. It has both its advantages and disadvantages over U-235: https://whatisnuclear.com/thorium.html The problem with both is that what the heck do we do with the wastes? Until we have a solid solution for them, it is hard to justify going big with them.
MadMansGun Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, gregathit said: The problem with both is that what the heck do we do with the wastes? i would say reuse it for something else, but i'm to stupid to know what or how. the waste is "waste" because it's still radioactive.....but if it's still radioactive then that means there is still a reaction going on within it.
gregathit Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, MadMansGun said: i would say reuse it for something else, but i'm to stupid to know what or how. the waste is "waste" because it's still radioactive.....but if it's still radioactive then that means there is still a reaction going on within it. The US only uses the fuel for 5 years. France however uses it for longer: https://www.nei.org/fundamentals/nuclear-waste Now if we could figure out how to get that teleporter to work, we could just "fax" it to the sun and "problem solved". ?
GimmeBACON Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Kendo 2 said: It's easily replaceable....yeah....suuuuure it is. We'll all ride unicorns to work.
FauxFurry Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, gregathit said: The US only uses the fuel for 5 years. France however uses it for longer: https://www.nei.org/fundamentals/nuclear-waste Now if we could figure out how to get that teleporter to work, we could just "fax" it to the sun and "problem solved". ? If the Earth's molten core can destroy some of it, then the nuclear waste might have a much shorter trip to oblivion. Of course, if it doesn't, then the core of the Earth will become increasingly radioactive and it might eventually seep into the water table.
MadMansGun Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, gregathit said: Now if we could figure out how to get that teleporter to work sadly it would probably take too much power just to teleport one atom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5cYgRnfFDA
Kendo 2 Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, gregathit said: Until battery technology makes MASSIVE improvements on storage capacity and lifetime there is no other option. But hey, wouldn't want to let a little thing like science, common sense or facts get in the way. There is no viable alternative with today's technology. Current tech for long-life batteries means cobalt13 or lithium. Both of those KILL the people mining it and processing it. Luckily it's child slaves in the Congo doing all the work so woke douches can bloviate about how morally superior they are. 'A few black kids dying of cancer is okay as long as I can drive a Prius and virtue signal on Twitter.' 1 hour ago, MadMansGun said: the waste is "waste" because it's still radioactive.....but if it's still radioactive then that means there is still a reaction going on within it. The decay rates advance over time. It gets to the point where no amount of water can cool the reaction because of the silicon, zircon and other trash that starts to accumulate. There are much better ways to boil water to drive steam turbines.
Kendo 2 Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 The 2011 Fukushima Daiichi melt down has already killed us all. In a few decades when people start dying from liver and stomach cancer there won't be a common thread the medical 'experts' can identify. And the Japanese are ready to poison us all again. Fukushima: Japan 'to release contaminated water into sea'
Bazinga Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 about crude oil: 8 hours ago, Darkpig said: You don't like what I have to say? TOUGH SHIT. Its an easily replaceable industry and everybody knows it. I work in the plastics industry. It's not, don't be ridiculous. We are trying to get there but it will be a long way and we might accidentially make things worse instead (like using palm oil or sugarcane based materials which means helping to burn down the rain forest and then being rewarded with some label that says eco friendly for the lolz). Wanna ban plastics immediately? Welcome back to the stone age... or the 19th century, but only if we relearn all the manufacturing technologies we forgot because using plastic instead is easy peasy. I don't wanna go back to the 19th century though and I'm pretty sure that this would not reduce the ecological damage we're doing, quite the opposite. That's where I disagree with our resident tree huggers btw, on everything else I'm open for any change as long as it's sustainable. But we have to find a science based solution, not just go back to live off the earth.
Psalam Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bazinga said: Wanna ban plastics immediately
Kendo 2 Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bazinga said: Wanna ban plastics immediately? Welcome back to the stone age. More like the 1920's. Tube technology, cellulose, canned food with a 1 month shelf life, etc. We'd have to turn the whole U.S. into one continent-sized farm just to feed everyone, but good luck getting a harvest since there won't be any pesticides, ground sealers or powered farm equipment. And say goodbye to microchips and advanced medicine.
AKM Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 The Great Ocean Garbage Patch. Ever wonder where 'away' is, when you throw something away? Some of it is here: Spoiler
RitualClarity Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 12 hours ago, gregathit said: This is blind ignorance. You clearly don't realize how many products are made with oil. And replaceable? With what? Magical fairy dust? Until battery technology makes MASSIVE improvements on storage capacity and lifetime there is no other option. But hey, wouldn't want to let a little thing like science, common sense or facts get in the way. There is no viable alternative with today's technology. Here is some night reading for you: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/oil-isnt-dead-just-look-at-the-data A partial list of 144 products made from oil: https://www.innovativewealth.com/inflation-monitor/what-products-made-from-petroleum-outside-of-gasoline/ The oil industries opinion: https://www.shell.com/energy-and-innovation/the-energy-future/scenarios/shell-scenario-sky/could-society-reach-the-goals-of-the-paris-agreement/can-renewables-replace-fossil-fuels.html Even with alternatives such as Wind and solar .. if it was fully able to replace the energy requirements (transportation, heat, etc. ) So many of our modern items we interact with on a daily basis is based on oil and oil products. Roads to the buttons on your shirt. Such a massive shift would be needed that major social upheaval would occur. You think it is bad you have to wear a mask, stand 6feet from one another and can't go have a beer with friends at the local pub.... Imagine if roads weren't able to be repaired, that your favorite beer wasn't able to be obtained due to transportation issues (no trucks etc) Your pub would only be able to function during the day or you would see jack shit or by candle/lamp light. Music machines wouldn't function unless you decided to take turns on a bike connected to a generator! It would be worse than it was back in the early 1800's when it took months to travel from coast to coast. Fresh food not available (no refrigerators) You do realize even if you were able to build one. (simple process) you'd die as you'd not have the modern rubber seals to prevent the toxic gasses from being released (due to moving parts. ) 3 hours ago, Kendo 2 said: More like the 1920's. Tube technology, cellulose, canned food with a 1 month shelf life, etc. We'd have to turn the whole U.S. into one continent-sized farm just to feed everyone, but good luck getting a harvest since there won't be any pesticides, ground sealers or powered farm equipment. And say goodbye to microchips and advanced medicine. Cell phones, ambulances, medical devices (like EKG etc) to monitor your life. Then also consider all the power used to create these amazing medicines.. advancement would stop and what we had previously would revert back to pre-industrial period. I do see @Darkpig rational for the comment of not caring if they were gone as they are extremely evil but... a necessary evil .. sadly even if we had alternate power sources, we'd still need Oil industry to a degree for other materials used by oil. We aren't getting rid of them any time soon.
TheOzoneHole Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 The largest and more aggressive dogs will (even pugs), but the small sneeze mutts that do nothing all day but yip and yap at anything and everything will become food for other animals. (Good riddance.) On top of that you figure the number of plants that we've genetically altered over the centuries, everything from bananas to wheat to carrots. The main type of wheat grown in North America was engineered because one guy wanted better sandwich bread. (It has the long chain gluten that many people who have gluten issues react to; much of the wheat (#notall) grown in Europe has short chain gluten. The things you learn from your friends with food allergies. ) And because so many of these plants are created specially, the seeds cost a crap load and the plants are all mono-cultures (they don't produce seeds), so farmers have to buy more seeds every year because the plants won't just come back the following year.
FauxFurry Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, RitualClarity said: Even with alternatives such as Wind and solar .. if it was fully able to replace the energy requirements (transportation, heat, etc. ) So many of our modern items we interact with on a daily basis is based on oil and oil products. Roads to the buttons on your shirt. Such a massive shift would be needed that major social upheaval would occur. You think it is bad you have to wear a mask, stand 6feet from one another and can't go have a beer with friends at the local pub.... Imagine if roads weren't able to be repaired, that your favorite beer wasn't able to be obtained due to transportation issues (no trucks etc) Your pub would only be able to function during the day or you would see jack shit or by candle/lamp light. Music machines wouldn't function unless you decided to take turns on a bike connected to a generator! It would be worse than it was back in the early 1800's when it took months to travel from coast to coast. Fresh food not available (no refrigerators) You do realize even if you were able to build one. (simple process) you'd die as you'd not have the modern rubber seals to prevent the toxic gasses from being released (due to moving parts. ) Cell phones, ambulances, medical devices (like EKG etc) to monitor your life. Then also consider all the power used to create these amazing medicines.. advancement would stop and what we had previously would revert back to pre-industrial period. I do see @Darkpig rational for the comment of not caring if they were gone as they are extremely evil but... a necessary evil .. sadly even if we had alternate power sources, we'd still need Oil industry to a degree for other materials used by oil. We aren't getting rid of them any time soon. What about the input devices that many here are using to comment on this site or the housing of the monitors, USB devices or major internal components of the PC/Macs themselves? Plastics are just as integrated into everyday life as Zinc.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.