Darkpig Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, megamantaray said: I don't get it, most of those are proper general alternatives in real language. Sure they're trying to get away from "man" but it seems perfectly reasonable to me except the humankind one. That one's a little bit of a stretch since "human" isn't a gendered noun anyway like landlord or husband is, it's just our species. Human. Oh noes! The triggered people are triggered! I'm sure they'll figure something out cause the human race is smart. Oh... I did it again... Also there is something about having a person's title being that of a chair that I find quite kinky.
RitualClarity Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said: Regular people aren't going to play the Orwellian New-Speak word game. It's stupid. Seriously.. what the literal hell. There is one thing being respectful and using a preferred pronoun for a trans person but trying to change names of languages because they are "gendered"...
Kendo 2 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Leftist are trying reform Hispanic to have Latino/Latina replaced with 'Latinx'. White Liberals are telling brown Latinos to abandon their culture and language.
steelpanther24 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said: Leftist are trying reform Hispanic to have Latino/Latina replaced with 'Latinx'. White Liberals are telling brown Latinos to abandon their culture and language. Well someone has to. I mean Mexico is grappling with a serious criminal activity threatening their society (recent protests by women trying to interrupt AMLO's speech). I am sure they are saying " Thank God to those Gringos to the north. Now we will be armed with the language to fight the corruption, drug fueled criminal activity and destruction of young lives". I suppose the golden rule "Don't be a dick" isn't applicable anymore?
Kendo 2 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, steelpanther24 said: I suppose the golden rule "Don't be a dick" isn't applicable anymore? It's not like white Liberals want to pick their own strawberries or anything. Don't be ridiculous.
Darkpig Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Kendo 2 said: Regular people aren't going to play the Orwellian New-Speak word game. It's stupid. This is the brainstorming process in the evolution of language. It is like politics but on a smaller scale. They'll figure it out eventually... hopefully ?
RitualClarity Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 50 minutes ago, Darkpig said: This is the brainstorming process in the evolution of language. It is like politics but on a smaller scale. They'll figure it out eventually... hopefully ? Society is part of the process... (of evolution of language) most of the time. However, you can't force society to adopt new ways, words and/or spellings. It takes time to settle. We are at a point where the vast majority of the public (in most countries) will use reasonable preferred pronouns if obvious or informed / told. However, pushing changing of language spelling because it is making people not "feel safe" isn't likely to become part of the main society any time soon. the funny thing is female actresses now want to be called "Actors" a male connotation I suspect (and some from what I have read and some from a I know in the industry (set production and such) is so they are treated the same. It is the preferred naming. "actresses" is considered the outdated name for females in the acting industry. https://www.stage32.com/lounge/acting/Actor-vs-Actress-what-is-the-correct-title-now
KoolHndLuke Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 4 hours ago, megamantaray said: Sure they're trying to get away from "man" The crux of the whole diluted mess. Everything about a man is "toxic" now. Spoiler
megamantaray Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: The crux of the whole diluted mess. Everything about a man is "toxic" now. Reveal hidden contents Yeah that's twitter and tumblr in a nutshell, but only that one example stuck out to me from that set. The others were perfectly viable in normal speech, regardless though a trans person who isn't an asshole would just explain their pronoun preference and that'd be it. Can't have reasonable social exchanges now though, and approaching a person with intent to socially engage at all is sexual harassment. Imagine these kinds of people, with all their crazy bullshit narratives, finding out how their parents met. "Oh yeah he just approached me with some silly lines, bought me a drink and we started hanging out." >YOU MEAN HE SEXUALLY HARASSED YOU IN PUBLIC AND YOU LET HIM!? Ugh...
KoolHndLuke Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 36 minutes ago, megamantaray said: Yeah that's twitter and tumblr in a nutshell, but only that one example stuck out to me from that set. The others were perfectly viable in normal speech, regardless though a trans person who isn't an asshole would just explain their pronoun preference and that'd be it. Can't have reasonable social exchanges now though, and approaching a person with intent to socially engage at all is sexual harassment. Imagine these kinds of people, with all their crazy bullshit narratives, finding out how their parents met. "Oh yeah he just approached me with some silly lines, bought me a drink and we started hanging out." >YOU MEAN HE SEXUALLY HARASSED YOU IN PUBLIC AND YOU LET HIM!? Ugh... Well, maybe it's linked to a natural phenomenon in our evolutionary growth? I mean the planet prolly won't sustain the population numbers projected by 2050 anyway...
27X Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, megamantaray said: Yeah that's twitter and tumblr in a nutshell, but only that one example stuck out to me from that set. The others were perfectly viable in normal speech, regardless though a trans person who isn't an asshole would just explain their pronoun preference and that'd be it. Can't have reasonable social exchanges now though, and approaching a person with intent to socially engage at all is sexual harassment. Imagine these kinds of people, with all their crazy bullshit narratives, finding out how their parents met. "Oh yeah he just approached me with some silly lines, bought me a drink and we started hanging out." >YOU MEAN HE SEXUALLY HARASSED YOU IN PUBLIC AND YOU LET HIM!? Ugh... If we're talking about birds or Lady gaga or regular show do I need to know you have a pronoun at all to discuss ULTIMATE FINAL DEATH MEATBALL SUB, I'm thinking maybe just being a person is good enough.
Noxide Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Entertaining stuff... It's quite interesting to see the different views. I think it's absolutely ridiculous. All of it. But in most places, people who think like I do get slaughtered for sharing our views, even though those views have been around for most of hu"wo"manities existence. The tables have turned, and those that used to bitch about being judged, are now doing the judging.
KoolHndLuke Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 6 hours ago, 27X said: Nah, you're just seeing people whom never suffered actual hardship or wont literally make up reasons to "struggle is real" My Dad tells it like it is, lol. Excellent film btw!
landess Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Why Germxn, and not Germyn, I see chromosomal bias in this spelling. May as well go full-on idiocy.
Darkpig Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 5 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said: The crux of the whole diluted mess. Everything about a man is "toxic" now. Reveal hidden contents I thought I was just imagining it. I always thought the consensus was "fuck you white man!" White man fucked over all kinds of people such as Blacks, Asians and Native Americans. If we look at it from the white point of view even peaceful Martin Luther King Jr. was regarded as a criminal. Are women the same? Maybe it just happens to be the hot topic at the moment(not to be confused with the store). I wouldn't be surprised ever since a certain shock jock started saying shitty things about women on the air. I gotta take a back seat on this one(If I were wise). As a rebel do I wiggle my tush and piss everyone off or do I pick a side? From my point of view it just looks like another lovers spat(will there be explosions?) P.S. Hollywood sucks eggs
worik Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 CAPS LOCK Can we all agree that this key is the true menace of mankind? And while we're at it, I would like to have the adress and the name of the guy who "invented" it. His neighbours should take the day off, make a day trip, far away. I won't need to disturb innocent people with certain "scenes" ?
Homonculus Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, worik said: CAPS LOCK Can we all agree that this key is the true menace of mankind? And while we're at it, I would like to have the adress and the name of the guy who "invented" it. His neighbours should take the day off, make a day trip, far away. I won't need to disturb innocent people with certain "scenes" ? N O.
Grey Cloud Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 6 hours ago, landess said: Why Germxn, and not Germyn, I see chromosomal bias in this spelling. May as well go full-on idiocy. Bravo! [Or is it brava or bravx now?]
Grey Cloud Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Just as a bit of a follow up to my original post on this. The ethnonym Germani is most likely Gallic in origin. Jacob Grimm derived it from a Celtic term for "shouting; noisy", and argued that the name represents a literal translation of the endonym Tungri. Johann Kaspar Zeuss derived the name from the Celtic word for "neighbour".[1] Germani enters into Latin use following Julius Caesar. Caesar in Commentarii de Bello Gallico (written in the 50s BC) reports hearing from his Remi allies that the term Germani was for a group that had historically come from the near side of the Rhine, named Germani Cisrhenani. By extension, Germani was understood to include similar tribes still living beyond the Rhine (Germani Transrhenani).[2] Tacitus, writing in AD 98, reports that the Tungri of his time, who lived in the area which had been home to the Germani Cisrhenani, had changed their name, but had once been the original Germani: For the rest, they affirm Germania to be a recent word, lately bestowed. For those who first passed the Rhine and expulsed the Gauls, and are now named Tungrians, were then called Germani. And thus by degrees the name of a tribe prevailed, not that of the nation; so that by an appellation at first occasioned by fear and conquest, they afterwards chose to be distinguished, and assuming a name lately invented were universally called Germani.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania (and a fine example of irony to boot (Americans read and learn ? ) The name Manchester originates from the Latin name Mamucium or its variant Mancunio and the citizens are still referred to as Mancunians (/mænˈkjuːniən/). These names are generally thought to represent a Latinisation of an original Brittonic name. The generally accepted etymology of this name is that it comes from Brittonic *mamm- ("breast", in reference to a "breast-like hill").[14][15] However, more recent work suggests that it could come from *mamma ("mother", in reference to a local river goddess). Both usages are preserved in Insular Celtic languages, such as mam meaning "breast" in Irish and "mother" in Welsh.[16] The suffix -chester is from Old English ceaster ("Roman fortification", itself a loanword from Latin castra, "fort; fortified town").[15][14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester
TheOzoneHole Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 So they did a speed limit study of the main road in my county...and then upgraded the road to be 4 lanes, divided and implemented the speed study for the old 2 lane road. That's not what pisses me off ( that is just gov't being gov't). No, what pisses me off is the people who pull out into the left hand lane and then try to go the new speed limit (10 mph lower than the old limit) when most of us actually go 5 mph faster than the old limit. Really people, if you're going to pull out onto a multi-lane divided highway, pull out into the right hand lane and then merge over if you need to make a left hand turn! Come on, this isn't hard! And use your damn turn signals to signify that you are making a lane change; again, not hard, just moving your finger a few inches is all it takes. And, I know this is insane, but turn on your headlights when it is raining. That isn't so you can see, it is so everyone else can see you. Crazy how that works right?!
Kendo 2 Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 The way people are overreacting to COVID-19 is starting to really piss me off. It's everything from dumb asses buying up toilet paper and bottled water, to the Leftist Twitterati and the media squawking about 'the end is nigh'.
Noxide Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Kendo 2 said: The way people are overreacting to COVID-19 is starting to really piss me off. It's everything from dumb asses buying up toilet paper and bottled water, to the Leftist Twitterati and the media squawking about 'the end is nigh'.
Jazzman Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 22 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: Just as a bit of a follow up to my original post on this. The ethnonym Germani is most likely Gallic in origin. Actually, it's Latinized German, the masc. plural form -i of the Latin singular -us. The original meaning refers to mounted 'spear man', the one who used the Ger, a short spear or lance and a framen / round shield for battle. In fact the mounted Germanic auxiliary in the Republican legion was armed that way and in the Imperial Age it even formed an own legion, the Legio X Equestris, the Tenth Mounted. That infamous elite legion was the personified terror in Judea and across the province of Syria almost throughout the first century - the demon in the Gospels whose name is legion cos they are many, up to 6,000 to be more precise. Have a good one!
Grey Cloud Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, Jazzman said: Actually, it's Latinized German, There was no such thing as a 'German' language during Roman times - hence Gallic. 53 minutes ago, Jazzman said: Actually, it's Latinized German, the masc. plural form -i of the Latin singular -us. And you are fluent in Latin? 53 minutes ago, Jazzman said: The original meaning refers to mounted 'spear man', the one who used the Ger, a short spear or lance and a framen / round shield for battle. Do you have a source for this? The pre-migration term reported by Tacitus is framea, who identifies it as "hasta"; The native term for "javelin, spear" was Old High German gêr, Old English gâr, Old Norse geirr, apparently from proto-Germanic *gaizaz. The names Genseric, Radagaisus indicate Gothic gaisu besides gairu. Latin gaesum, gaesus, Greek γαῖσον was the term for the lance of the Gauls. The Avestan language has gaêçu "lance bearer" as a likely cognate. The Celtic word is found e.g. in the name of the Gaesatae. Old Irish has gae "spear". Proto-Germanic *gaizaz would derive from proto-Indo-European language *ghaisos, although loan from Celtic has also been considered, in which case the PIE form would be *gaisos. The Indogermanisches etymologisches Wörterbuch has *g'haisos (with a palatal velar aspirate), discounting the Avestan form in favour of (tentatively) comparing Sanskrit hḗṣas- "projectile". The form gaois is read in an early Runic inscriptions on the so-called Mos spearhead, dated to the 3rd century, found in Stenkyrka, Gotland.[1] The etymon of English spear, from Germanic *speri (Old English spere, Old Frisian sper, Old High German sper, Old Norse spjör),[2] in origin also denoted a throwing spear or lance (hasta). Ger The word kêr or gêr is attested since the 8th century (Lay of Hildebrand 37, Heliand 3089). Gar and cognates is a frequent element in Germanic names, both male and female. Garseand survived in Southern France as garçon to designate either all male youth, or a spear bearing arm. The term survives into New High German as Ger or Gehr (Grimm 1854) with a generalized meaning of "gusset" besides "spear". In contemporary German, the word is used exclusively in antiquated or poetic context, and a feminine Gehre is used in the sense of "gusset". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_Period_spear Definition of framea : a spear with a long shaft and iron head used by the ancient Teutons https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/framea 1 hour ago, Jazzman said: In fact the mounted Germanic auxiliary in the Republican legion was armed that way and in the Imperial Age it even formed an own legion, the Legio X Equestris, the Tenth Mounted. That infamous elite legion was the personified terror in Judea and across the province of Syria almost throughout the first century - the demon in the Gospels whose name is legion cos they are many, up to 6,000 to be more precise. Where do you get this nonsense from? Legio X Equestris (Latin: Tenth Legion "Mounted"), a Roman legion, was levied by Julius Caesar in 61 BC when he was the Governor of Hispania Ulterior. The Tenth was the first legion levied personally by Caesar and was consistently his most trusted. The name Equestris was applied after Caesar mounted legionaries from the Tenth on horses as a ruse in a parley with the German King Ariovistus in 58 BC[dubious – discuss] because he did not trust his Gallic cavalry auxiliaries from the Aedui tribe. Legio X was famous in its day[1] and throughout history, because of its portrayal in Caesar's Commentaries and the prominent role the Tenth played in his Gallic campaigns.[2] Its soldiers were discharged in 45 BC. Its remnants were reconstituted, fought for Mark Antony and Octavian, disbanded, and later merged into X Gemina.[3] At the beginning of the Gallic campaign, Caesar brought the 10th legion from Spain (with the 7th, 8th, and 9th legions). Almost immediately, in the summer of 58 BC, the legion fought in two major actions, the battles of Arar and Bibracte. They played a central part in Caesar's defeat of the Helvetii tribes, preventing their migration from present day Switzerland to western France. Following the defeat of the Helvetii, the leaders of the Gallic tribes petitioned Caesar for his aid against Ariovistus, king of the German Suebi tribe. Prior to battle, Ariovistus suggested a peace conference but insisted that each side should only be accompanied by mounted troops. Ariovistus made this a condition knowing that Caesar's cavalry was composed mainly of Aedian horsemen whose loyalty to Caesar was questionable. Caesar ordered a group of his Gallic auxiliaries to dismount and had legionaries from the 10th ride in their place to accompany him to the peace conference. This incident earned the legion its nickname Equestris (mounted). One of the legionaries jokingly said that Caesar was better than his word: he had promised to make them foot guards, but now they appeared as equestrians.[6] End of the legion In 45 BC the legion was disbanded, and the veterans obtained lands in Narbonne, southern Gaul. During the civil war that followed Caesar's assassination, the Legio X was reconstituted by Lepidus (winter 44/43), and fought for the triumvirs until the final Battle of Philippi. The veterans obtained lands near Cremona, and an inscription reports that the name of the legion at the time was Veneria, "devoted to Venus", the mythical mother of gens Julia.[8] The Tenth later followed Mark Antony in Armenia, during his Parthian campaign. During Antony's civil war, the legion fought for Mark Antony until the defeat in the Battle of Actium, after which the legion moved into Octavian's army. The veterans settled in Patras. When the legion rebelled under Augustus, it was disbanded,[9] stripped of its Equestris title, and, being populated with soldiers from other legions, renamed X Gemina.[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_X_Equestris
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