Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[CliftonJD]

Having an odd issue where while enslaved, the only animations that happen after a dance sequence are boobjob and blowjob ones. Everything is up to date, and I've tried adjusting anything that seemed logical, including the sex animation mcm in Devious Devices. I also just tried turning off all the animation scenes in sexlab that involved either the boobjob or blowjob animations, but then I just get an error from Devious Devices. Any ideas?

are you belted/chastised or wearing a harness - if you're wearing a belt or harness, its doing everything its supposed to and blocking you from having any other sex, if you're only getting boobjob, i'm guessing you're aso gagged

Edited August 20, 2014 by CliftonJD

[bigglebojiggle]

I'm having trouble with the Flowering Spriggan too.

I found a flowering spriggan, lost the fight, she had her way with me, I came back after being freed (and raped by the guy who freed me cause I wouldn't pay him or consent to it), came back and killed her and took all the armor.

I know some npcs are supposed to say some dialogue for the quest to start but it hasnt happened yet (after a few hours of play).

I'm not sure if I've done something wrong (the game also seems to think I still have a chastity belt on. I guess I didn't fully escape before trying to get that guy to take off the bindings?) or if I simply need to update the devious devices mods (which I am).

[Buddy Christ]

I love you guys

Thanks for the help, I loaded the save right before the thugs showed up and played around a bit with the settings in DA and Defeat.

Got enslaved and they took me for a walk. Sadly though, a giant Frostbite spider then killed them ^^

 

So I loaded my most recent save (because of the 30 thieves guild quests I did in the meantime) and hope to meet the thugs again in the future (although my char doesn't hope so, hehe)

Since the help on the thugs in the MCM menu for SD+ says that it is part 3 of a quest series of 4, I guess it will happen again in the future, right?

 

 

 

 

[magicrealm]

1. the items stolen by the master come to sanguines box in the dreamworld. but the items of the followers are kept by the master, they do not appear in the dreamworld box.

is that on purpose ? if so, why ? or is it because of amazing follower tweaks that i use ?

 

2 the Animations from deviouis devices like horny, pug vibration, wander Hand, etc are cut after 2 seconds.  may SD cause this ? if not, any idea what it can be ?   (no loadiorder and fnis issues please)

 

3. how do the priorities in DA Blackout list work ? does it mean that a higher priority prevent a lower priority of same kind at all or is the  % appearance more or less likely ?what happens if two or more Events of the same Kind have the same priority ?

 

4. after enslavement, will i wake up in dreamworld next sleep automatically to get my items from box ?

 

5. when is blackout mode used and when death ? i experienced a couple of times i waked up in dreamwolrd with neardeath effect wihen blackout should had happen, not because of a hard hit. what prevents blackout mode to start ? i hardly get any, espüecially if defeat is used and followers are used (2 of them).  after hitting the pc into bleedout the attakckers switsch to followers, so pc has time to come back into the fight. no cjhance of blackout.

 

6. last game i always had no Keyboard control when entered the dreamworld. used epc for that, but it is not normal, is it ?

 

i read the pdf Manual and understood the priniples, but whats going on is not as principles say. i think the bleedout mode is absolutely unnecessary and makes it horrible complicated and self-incompatible. a mod that overjumps that bleedout would be more then welcome. simply instead of death loading screen startting an event, thats it. 

[Buddy Christ]

5. when is blackout mode used and when death ? i experienced a couple of times i waked up in dreamwolrd with neardeath effect wihen blackout should had happen, not because of a hard hit. what prevents blackout mode to start ? i hardly get any, espüecially if defeat is used and followers are used (2 of them).  after hitting the pc into bleedout the attakckers switsch to followers, so pc has time to come back into the fight. no cjhance of blackout.

 

I set my Defeat options under "Player as Victim" for NPC Knockdown to "Original". When my Character goes down, so do the followers. Then my Char is beaten up and the followers are ignored for the moment.

[magicrealm]

 

5. when is blackout mode used and when death ? i experienced a couple of times i waked up in dreamwolrd with neardeath effect wihen blackout should had happen, not because of a hard hit. what prevents blackout mode to start ? i hardly get any, espüecially if defeat is used and followers are used (2 of them).  after hitting the pc into bleedout the attakckers switsch to followers, so pc has time to come back into the fight. no cjhance of blackout.

 

I set my Defeat options under "Player as Victim" for NPC Knockdown to "Original". When my Character goes down, so do the followers. Then my Char is beaten up and the followers are ignored for the moment.

 

 

sure, and how will you ever come to vlackout ? that is my question here

[Buddy Christ]

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood your question then

[eflat0]

I love you guys

Thanks for the help, I loaded the save right before the thugs showed up and played around a bit with the settings in DA and Defeat.

Got enslaved and they took me for a walk. Sadly though, a giant Frostbite spider then killed them ^^

 

So I loaded my most recent save (because of the 30 thieves guild quests I did in the meantime) and hope to meet the thugs again in the future (although my char doesn't hope so, hehe)

Since the help on the thugs in the MCM menu for SD+ says that it is part 3 of a quest series of 4, I guess it will happen again in the future, right?

 

Talk to the bandit enslaving you while on the walk? ...

Are we there yet?

Are we there yet?

 

Are we there yet?

 

... enough times and it will fast-forward you to the destination.

 

[Azn]

 

Having an odd issue where while enslaved, the only animations that happen after a dance sequence are boobjob and blowjob ones. Everything is up to date, and I've tried adjusting anything that seemed logical, including the sex animation mcm in Devious Devices. I also just tried turning off all the animation scenes in sexlab that involved either the boobjob or blowjob animations, but then I just get an error from Devious Devices. Any ideas?

are you belted/chastised or wearing a harness - if you're wearing a belt or harness, its doing everything its supposed to and blocking you from having any other sex, if you're only getting boobjob, i'm guessing you're aso gagged

 

Ah, ok. Yeah, my character does have a harness on, but I didn't realize that also prevented scenes like a chastity belt does. Though the oddity is that my character is getting blowjob animations despite haveing a wooden gag in her mouth. Kind of odd.

[Darknessbeast]

How can I disable some underwear from Devious Devices - Integration? When my GG captured by Bandits, sometimes she weared in some underwear. I didn't like it. Can I disable this underwear from SD+?

[Min]

How can I disable some underwear from Devious Devices - Integration? When my GG captured by Bandits, sometimes she weared in some underwear. I didn't like it. Can I disable this underwear from SD+?

 

DDi doesn't add any underwear to your game.

 

[CliftonJD]

I'm having trouble with the Flowering Spriggan too.

I found a flowering spriggan, lost the fight, she had her way with me, I came back after being freed (and raped by the guy who freed me cause I wouldn't pay him or consent to it), came back and killed her and took all the armor.

I know some npcs are supposed to say some dialogue for the quest to start but it hasnt happened yet (after a few hours of play).

I'm not sure if I've done something wrong (the game also seems to think I still have a chastity belt on. I guess I didn't fully escape before trying to get that guy to take off the bindings?) or if I simply need to update the devious devices mods (which I am).

i believe (if the rule still holds true from previous versions) a flowering spriggan will effect you the same as a normal spriggan during defeat - if you're getting raped by it, that's not death alternative or sd+, you'll have to adjust da and defeat bleedout settings for spriggan effects or they still act as any other npc rapes

the chastity issue i'd say confirm from your inventory if its worn or not, if inventory says no then transfer it to a barrel and back to reset the scripts - at that point it'll be truly worn Or not worn and you can find a means to get locked belts removed via chastity keys or captured dreams shop

 

1. the items stolen by the master come to sanguines box in the dreamworld. but the items of the followers are kept by the master, they do not appear in the dreamworld box.

is that on purpose ? if so, why ? or is it because of amazing follower tweaks that i use ?

 

2 the Animations from deviouis devices like horny, pug vibration, wander Hand, etc are cut after 2 seconds.  may SD cause this ? if not, any idea what it can be ?   (no loadiorder and fnis issues please)

 

3. how do the priorities in DA Blackout list work ? does it mean that a higher priority prevent a lower priority of same kind at all or is the  % appearance more or less likely ?what happens if two or more Events of the same Kind have the same priority ?

 

4. after enslavement, will i wake up in dreamworld next sleep automatically to get my items from box ?

 

5. when is blackout mode used and when death ? i experienced a couple of times i waked up in dreamwolrd with neardeath effect wihen blackout should had happen, not because of a hard hit. what prevents blackout mode to start ? i hardly get any, espüecially if defeat is used and followers are used (2 of them).  after hitting the pc into bleedout the attakckers switsch to followers, so pc has time to come back into the fight. no cjhance of blackout.

 

6. last game i always had no Keyboard control when entered the dreamworld. used epc for that, but it is not normal, is it ?

 

i read the pdf Manual and understood the priniples, but whats going on is not as principles say. i think the bleedout mode is absolutely unnecessary and makes it horrible complicated and self-incompatible. a mod that overjumps that bleedout would be more then welcome. simply instead of death loading screen startting an event, thats it. 

 

!. I use aft as well and always find my dead master to be only holding his/her usual contents (master usually can't hold everything i store on my followers) with a chest in dreamworld loaded with things to bring back my next visit

2.Never had That issue with devious devices and i've been using sd longer than i've used dd - extra pre-requisites on dd that i didn't want to add yet that sd didn't need

3. i can only party answer that 1 -priorities in da are based on percentage meaning a higher priority will be more likely to occur than a lower priority, but in the chance something were to occur where 2 or more events in the priority list can occur and have equal priorities, i don't know how da handles that

4. that's been my experience since this last update and i think skyrimill stated somewhere that was 1 of the changes

5. adjust follower settings to your liking from death alternative, can't say defeat settings, i use submit with autosubmit set to 0% and disabled - my follower settings in death alt are set to ignore followers (i either defend myslf well enough or get enslaved), default settings in da will leave you in bleedout with necromantic absorbtion until all your followers are dead so you come back to live with aela or farkas in your party (quest npc's immortal)

6. the keyboard issue i've experienced, but don't know what epc is - my solution to recover from the keyboard issue in dreamworld was the submit key as defined in sd+ default "k" - pressing that and choosing last breath was usually enough for me, but it has other options there if that doesn't do it - that's the failsafe key, the mod is so complex it originally had enough issues it needed it and time to time still does (likelihood for its purpose is now based on your rig)

 

i've read up on the original sd mod, i remember the warnings and likelihood of bugs in it so i can fully understand the switch to using death alternative as a pre-requisite mod, but the necessity of da bleedout does not mean i have to use default settings - i adjusted bleedout to occur from 10-15% life based on my level, but i've also lowered the calmed effects to player and the duration of bleedout as much as the mcm will allow - my opinion its either live or be enslaved thru sd+ unless creature then da can kick in, but if i recover from bleedout without enslavement - none of this recover from bleedout and walk by bandits and spiders like you're buddies pfftt

Oh and the death loading screen to starting event phase you're experiencing is performance of the pc rig as i've just discovered after a new pc overhaul And switch to using loot instead of manual configure - for me things actually happen the way you're asking for it to happen

 

 

 

Having an odd issue where while enslaved, the only animations that happen after a dance sequence are boobjob and blowjob ones. Everything is up to date, and I've tried adjusting anything that seemed logical, including the sex animation mcm in Devious Devices. I also just tried turning off all the animation scenes in sexlab that involved either the boobjob or blowjob animations, but then I just get an error from Devious Devices. Any ideas?

are you belted/chastised or wearing a harness - if you're wearing a belt or harness, its doing everything its supposed to and blocking you from having any other sex, if you're only getting boobjob, i'm guessing you're aso gagged

 

Ah, ok. Yeah, my character does have a harness on, but I didn't realize that also prevented scenes like a chastity belt does. Though the oddity is that my character is getting blowjob animations despite haveing a wooden gag in her mouth. Kind of odd.

 

the wooden gag is still part of the zaz pack, not devious devices and therefore won't interupt scenes, not sure how the new pink gags from sd+ latest update performs in scenes yet, but aside from that....only gags that prevent scenes are devious - you'll know the difference if its a gag that you can remove yourself either thru your inventory or thru containers

 

How can I disable some underwear from Devious Devices - Integration? When my GG captured by Bandits, sometimes she weared in some underwear. I didn't like it. Can I disable this underwear from SD+?

underwear on devious devices is thier(devious devices integration) latest thing, you'd have to ask them how to adjust that to your liking

Edit:nvm then, min has already corrected me before this was posted (as i typed above)

edit 2: it does however, soundlike a texture pack, like a skin or armor replacer mod i've seen on nexus -  possibly "Caliente Female Body Mod BBE v3-2-2666-3-2-3" or similar version

Edited August 21, 2014 by CliftonJD

[Buddy Christ]

 

Talk to the bandit enslaving you while on the walk? ...

Are we there yet?

Are we there yet?

 

Are we there yet?

 

... enough times and it will fast-forward you to the destination.

 

 

 

Ooooh, thank you

 

*fires up older save to try it*

[Buffmutti]

Well, while playing without Sanguine's Artifact (because all aggressive animations will be stuck at stage 1, even if i use a kissing animation, if any sl mod starts it as a aggressive animation it will be stuck, on the other side: if i use rape as consensual animation it will not be stuck) i realized that it would make more sense if the artifact has another effect.

 

What if the artifact would be sort of a "beacon" for all factions which can enslave the pc, for them to know where the pc is and to attack the pc with the goal to enslave the pc?

 

And with every visit to the dreamworld the area where the "beacon" is visible will become bigger (and maybe it will lower morality too, so that even factions which normally won't enslave the pc will start to "hunt" the pc).

 

The visits to the dreamworld could have the side-effect of lowering the "will-level" of the pc, which means it will become more and more unlikely that the pc denies anyone if someone wants to have sex.

 

In the end it would be rather rare that the pc is free, being enslaved would be the normal case....and at the same time the whole skyrim would see the pc as a public fucktoy

 

I think of SD as a slavery mod, not a rape mod (if someone want to get raped, well, there are some mods in sl for that desire) ^^

 

You see, the people get strange ideas if they can't use a mod as it was intended by the modder xD

[Vithiss]

1. the items stolen by the master come to sanguines box in the dreamworld. but the items of the followers are kept by the master, they do not appear in the dreamworld box.

is that on purpose ? if so, why ? or is it because of amazing follower tweaks that i use ?

 

2 the Animations from deviouis devices like horny, pug vibration, wander Hand, etc are cut after 2 seconds.  may SD cause this ? if not, any idea what it can be ?   (no loadiorder and fnis issues please)

 

3. how do the priorities in DA Blackout list work ? does it mean that a higher priority prevent a lower priority of same kind at all or is the  % appearance more or less likely ?what happens if two or more Events of the same Kind have the same priority ?

 

4. after enslavement, will i wake up in dreamworld next sleep automatically to get my items from box ?

 

5. when is blackout mode used and when death ? i experienced a couple of times i waked up in dreamwolrd with neardeath effect wihen blackout should had happen, not because of a hard hit. what prevents blackout mode to start ? i hardly get any, espüecially if defeat is used and followers are used (2 of them).  after hitting the pc into bleedout the attakckers switsch to followers, so pc has time to come back into the fight. no cjhance of blackout.

 

6. last game i always had no Keyboard control when entered the dreamworld. used epc for that, but it is not normal, is it ?

 

i read the pdf Manual and understood the priniples, but whats going on is not as principles say. i think the bleedout mode is absolutely unnecessary and makes it horrible complicated and self-incompatible. a mod that overjumps that bleedout would be more then welcome. simply instead of death loading screen startting an event, thats it. 

1. I almost never use followers, sorry, no help.

2. I have noticed this too, now and then. It seems as if the "bound state" the pc is in is preventing the animations from playing through - the analogy is based on what happens when you get a coveted-launched approach while already in a sexlab animation, if you resist, the pc will break out of the ongoing animation for a moment, then return to it.

3. Already answered as well as I could.

4. The first time you are enslaved the trip to Dreamworld is automatic next time you sleep. Afaik, this is not true afterward. But, in this version sleeping in the basement of Haelga's (the "safe place" option from Sanguine) gives you a much higher chance whether you've been recently enslaved or not (so long as you have been enslaved once), and the secret shrine assures you a visit every time you sleep there.

5. Sounds like you're using All Down for Defeat, I would change that to Orginal or No Transition, to prevent enemies from ignoring you long enough for you to recover. Also try raising your Bleedout time and the Damage multiplier in DA so that it is as high as it will go so that you will get knocked out a second time as fast as possible, and lower the calm times. Right now, with my settings, by the time Defeat is finished with my PC, the bad guys are ready to fight again and getting away can be a real problem.

6. Nothing I can add to what has been said already.

 

Bleedout is needed for things like Defeat, afaik, to have a chance to kick in. I think, from the sounds of it that your problems stem from the cooldown for calming and debuffing in DA (put them as low as they'll go, as was already suggested) and maybe your followers - ie, they are too strong or something... as I said, I almost never use followers so, blind guess on my part there.

 

[pinky6225]

If you set the DA follower option to none (usually kill follower etc) will that allow your follower to get enslaved with you?

[GrayElephant]

I believe follower enslavement is WIP along with the overhauled master/slave interactions that are currently underway.

[Snook001]

 

Hi,

 

I try to use your mod, but I don't get enslave very often, most of the time they just keep hitting until I'm sent to Sanguine's realm (Especially true with falmer).  Is there any special setting I should set in DAYMOYL or Sanguine?  Beside set to bleedout & no kill move for the player.  According to the PDF there were no standard but maybe you would have some tweak.  I already set everything that is not SD related to 0% including on death event.  So far no that much luck.  Occasionally I'm enslaved by Bandits but they seems more interested in killing me.  The chance of friendly event vs unfriendly event in the "radiant event"  is set at 50% each.  Any idea?  The Mod has been installed on a new game.

 

Thanks for the help. 

 

This is likely due to your character being killed before DA has a chance to register an enslavement event.

 

Try playing with DA parameters such as Health Threshold (10% at least) and Large hit value (600% at least).

 

 

Thanks, that fixed my problem , I had my health a 0%, now it's working.  I had some fun to track down my equipment.  So far so good, I love this mod

[rypley]

hello,

I have two problems :

1 - I have a sanguine's gag on my character and i does not remove it.

2 - I often Wonder master to put me on my knees, but my character does not.

 

do you know a solution to these problems ?

 

 

[Vithiss]

I too have noticed that the old kneeling poses are missing in the latest version, but I assumed that it was due to the further integration of DD or a change in ZAP.

 

I haven't had the problem of Sanguine's items getting irrecoverably stuck, so can offer no help there.

[eflat0]

hello,

I have two problems :

1 - I have a sanguine's gag on my character and i does not remove it.

2 - I often Wonder master to put me on my knees, but my character does not.

 

do you know a solution to these problems ?

 

I've run into this twice now.. only it was the collar not being removed even after multiple enslavement's were released... (i.e. no longer a slave).

 

 

Ended up using the console to correct it... via

 

Help "Sanguine's Key"

payer.additem xxxxxxxx

 

 

 

 

I too have noticed that the old kneeling poses are missing in the latest version, but I assumed that it was due to the further integration of DD or a change in ZAP.

 

I haven't had the problem of Sanguine's items getting irrecoverably stuck, so can offer no help there.

 

 

I also figured it has to do with the new versions of ZAZ and DD... 

[Montes21]

i thought this would be cool to try. so i downloaded all the mods. for some reason now my game crashes every few minutes, is there anything that could cause this.

 

[BringtheNoise]

SkyrimLL I was testing the 7/31/14 build with the latest DD updates from 8/16/14 and noticed that the gag is broken and I'm unable to talk to Sammy in the dream world.

DD changed the Gags from a slot 44 & 50 to just slot 44.

Ran into a similar issue with the Aradia Devious set that Gameplayer has put together and he figured it out on that set so I'm hoping its a similar issue that can be easily fixed in a quick update.

 

I made a save before entering the dreamworld via the alter (damn need a fast travel to that spot...) and the first try I had not manipulated a set of arm binders, and Sammy wouldn't talk to my character... that left my character pretty much up a creek without a paddle.

I reloaded the save and consoled in a set of arm binders, manipulated the locks then went off to the dream world. I was able to pick the lock on the gag, but it remained on my character and I was unable to talk to Sam still, or any other npc after I pulled the chain and ended up in riften (irony I'm going through the thief missions on a new run through which brought be to the alter in the first place)...

 

If you can please test with the new DD updates and see if you can replicate the issue...

Thanks in advance for keeping one of my fav Daedric mods up to date with all the SL and DD versions...

[DeepBlueFrog]

SkyrimLL I was testing the 7/31/14 build with the latest DD updates from 8/16/14 and noticed that the gag is broken and I'm unable to talk to Sammy in the dream world.

DD changed the Gags from a slot 44 & 50 to just slot 44.

Ran into a similar issue with the Aradia Devious set that Gameplayer has put together and he figured it out on that set so I'm hoping its a similar issue that can be easily fixed in a quick update.

 

I made a save before entering the dreamworld via the alter (damn need a fast travel to that spot...) and the first try I had not manipulated a set of arm binders, and Sammy wouldn't talk to my character... that left my character pretty much up a creek without a paddle.

I reloaded the save and consoled in a set of arm binders, manipulated the locks then went off to the dream world. I was able to pick the lock on the gag, but it remained on my character and I was unable to talk to Sam still, or any other npc after I pulled the chain and ended up in riften (irony I'm going through the thief missions on a new run through which brought be to the alter in the first place)...

 

If you can please test with the new DD updates and see if you can replicate the issue...

Thanks in advance for keeping one of my fav Daedric mods up to date with all the SL and DD versions...

 

Thanks.. I made a note of it and will check the slots in the next update (or maybe an intermediate release if I come across anything game breaking with the latest version).

[DeepBlueFrog]

This is my most visited thread, so I will post a note here for now.

 

I am taking a couple of weeks off from LL. No worries... I will be back

 

I need to do that to avoid burnout, to take care of work priorities and to step back and better plan my next updates to SD and Stories.

 

I will reply to some urgent questions but it may take a day or two before I read about them in the forums.