Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[shadow866]

 

Skyrimll, one suggestion. It seems to me that actually SD+ sends always your stolen stuff to sanguine world (at least when you manage to kill the owner).

 

I understand there is a lot of technicality at stake (like avoid to deprive people of quest breaking item), but this way, from a gameplay POV there is less incentive to go back to your master, for revenge and for retrieving the stolen gear.

 

I have always thought of the chest in Dreamworld as something temporary until I find a way to improve stolen items.

 

Maybe I can make it random - have your master steal your stuff and a small chance Sanguine takes them first. Or maybe rely on DA's own stolen item quest first.

 

 

Nah dont change that. Sending stuff to the dreamworld works perfectly fine and gives you more of a reason to go there as well.

Like someone once said. Dont try to fix something thats not broken

 

 

upon paying the total gold amount owed, nothing happens. No dialogue of any kind appears (actually, I think one or two dialogue options VANISHED), doesn't earn you your freedom, or do anything.

 

 

Yup i have the same issue so i usally end up killing my master by using Sexlab Defeats toggle kill.

[pinky6225]

 

 

Skyrimll, one suggestion. It seems to me that actually SD+ sends always your stolen stuff to sanguine world (at least when you manage to kill the owner).

 

I understand there is a lot of technicality at stake (like avoid to deprive people of quest breaking item), but this way, from a gameplay POV there is less incentive to go back to your master, for revenge and for retrieving the stolen gear.

 

I have always thought of the chest in Dreamworld as something temporary until I find a way to improve stolen items.

 

Maybe I can make it random - have your master steal your stuff and a small chance Sanguine takes them first. Or maybe rely on DA's own stolen item quest first.

 

 

Nah dont change that. Sending stuff to the dreamworld works perfectly fine and gives you more of a reason to go there as well.

Like someone once said. Dont try to fix something thats not broken

 

 

upon paying the total gold amount owed, nothing happens. No dialogue of any kind appears (actually, I think one or two dialogue options VANISHED), doesn't earn you your freedom, or do anything.

 

 

Yup i have the same issue so i usally end up killing my master by using Sexlab Defeats toggle kill.

 

 

I've noticed that the amount you have to pay (the setting in the SD+ MCM) has a habit of changing either as you pay it or as you use the dialogue to check it so then when you are enslaved after buying your freedom its set to 0 so the dialogue for earning your freedom doesn't show

 

If you go into the MCM and adjust it back up from 0 so it has a value the dialogue shows again.

 

[shinji72]

 

Skyrimll, one suggestion. It seems to me that actually SD+ sends always your stolen stuff to sanguine world (at least when you manage to kill the owner).

 

I understand there is a lot of technicality at stake (like avoid to deprive people of quest breaking item), but this way, from a gameplay POV there is less incentive to go back to your master, for revenge and for retrieving the stolen gear.

 

I have always thought of the chest in Dreamworld as something temporary until I find a way to improve stolen items.

 

Maybe I can make it random - have your master steal your stuff and a small chance Sanguine takes them first. Or maybe rely on DA's own stolen item quest first.

 

 

The DA own system could be a neat solution (i know from last updates it handles multiple stolen quest. Should at least. Haven't tested).

 

I would not say the actual system is broken... I say it doesn't make a good gameplay.

Now basically the sanguine realm is an asset. It gives you a permanent container full of your stuff. I'm sure some like this way (make for an option).

But it's not really, IMO, what SD+ is all about. It's a punishment mod, right?

 

With DA system you're forced to repay for your stuff (which then make plausible the use of whoring mod like Animal mansion or radiant).

If the Owner keeps some or all your stuff you have an incentive to try to kill him... Not just running away.

Gameplay is all about efforts and rewards. 

Fighting to get your gear back (instead of having it nicely stored to an ethereal universal container) makes for a funny gameplay.

 

[Mondaiji]

Just finished the SPriggan quest and for some reason I still have the cuffs visibly equiped but not on the inventory. Otherwise really enjoying this

 

 

EDIT: Managed to remove with console

 

Also... i know totally different mods and what not... But playing this and Capturd Dreams... I can't help to imagine  "Master" from that mod is actually Sanguine just toying around

 

That did happen to me too, i just thought it was a freak accident and moved on (removed through console) but i guess it might be a bug.

 

On a general note i do a longish play atm and it is running stable except for that one thing i had no issue. Running with dd + ddx, prostitute, defeat, Solutions, estrus and all the dependecy's.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Just finished the SPriggan quest and for some reason I still have the cuffs visibly equiped but not on the inventory. Otherwise really enjoying this

 

 

EDIT: Managed to remove with console

 

Also... i know totally different mods and what not... But playing this and Capturd Dreams... I can't help to imagine  "Master" from that mod is actually Sanguine just toying around

 

That did happen to me too, i just thought it was a freak accident and moved on (removed through console) but i guess it might be a bug.

 

 

Spriggan hands and feet take a long time to remove by themselves after the quest is done. It's a recovery period.

 

Removing things by console is a sure way to end up with issues.

[Mondaiji]

 

 

Just finished the SPriggan quest and for some reason I still have the cuffs visibly equiped but not on the inventory. Otherwise really enjoying this

 

 

EDIT: Managed to remove with console

 

Also... i know totally different mods and what not... But playing this and Capturd Dreams... I can't help to imagine  "Master" from that mod is actually Sanguine just toying around

 

That did happen to me too, i just thought it was a freak accident and moved on (removed through console) but i guess it might be a bug.

 

 

Spriggan hands and feet take a long time to remove by themselves after the quest is done. It's a recovery period.

 

Removing things by console is a sure way to end up with issues.

 

 

As described by baronesa everything was removed except the item ending if i remember correctly in f6, are you sure that we are talking about the same thing? It has no name if checked with "inv" and is not visible as such in the inventory.

 

Hmm maybe that is why the quest did not get removed from journal until i reloaded/restarted skyrim (dont remember if i just reloaded or restarted but that should not matter afaik).

 

On that note i got aggro from the spriggan where the husk was placed as soon as the quest did finish, is that by designe?

[eric_starbuck]

Yesterday evening I encountered a robber who was wearing the Spriggan armor, he was labelled as flowering spriggan. Is this an update of this mod? it was fun and she was very strong!

 

Another question not completely related to this mod: I found the "imperfect body" texture mod on the nexus and it is fantastic for a slave PG. is it possible to have these textures applied to the character only and not on every Female NPC? (I am not an expert on modding games)

[Mondaiji]

Yesterday evening I encountered a robber who was wearing the Spriggan armor, he was labelled as flowering spriggan. Is this an update of this mod? it was fun and she was very strong!

 

Another question not completely related to this mod: I found the "imperfect body" texture mod on the nexus and it is fantastic for a slave PG. is it possible to have these textures applied to the character only and not on every Female NPC? (I am not an expert on modding games)

 

If you create a custom race but maybe there are some mods around that let you achive that without going this route.

[eric_starbuck]

 

Yesterday evening I encountered a robber who was wearing the Spriggan armor, he was labelled as flowering spriggan. Is this an update of this mod? it was fun and she was very strong!

 

Another question not completely related to this mod: I found the "imperfect body" texture mod on the nexus and it is fantastic for a slave PG. is it possible to have these textures applied to the character only and not on every Female NPC? (I am not an expert on modding games)

 

If you create a custom race but maybe there are some mods around that let you achive that without going this route.

 

 

It seems you put me in the right direction. thank you.

 

I will try to use this:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/8720/?

 

Together with:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/24394/?

[shinji72]

Yesterday evening I encountered a robber who was wearing the Spriggan armor, he was labelled as flowering spriggan. Is this an update of this mod? it was fun and she was very strong!

 

Another question not completely related to this mod: I found the "imperfect body" texture mod on the nexus and it is fantastic for a slave PG. is it possible to have these textures applied to the character only and not on every Female NPC? (I am not an expert on modding games)

 

Did you believe the Spriggan were only going after you?  

[eric_starbuck]

Yes i believed that! what a fool!

[baronesa]

 

 

Just finished the SPriggan quest and for some reason I still have the cuffs visibly equiped but not on the inventory. Otherwise really enjoying this

 

 

EDIT: Managed to remove with console

 

Also... i know totally different mods and what not... But playing this and Capturd Dreams... I can't help to imagine  "Master" from that mod is actually Sanguine just toying around

 

That did happen to me too, i just thought it was a freak accident and moved on (removed through console) but i guess it might be a bug.

 

 

Spriggan hands and feet take a long time to remove by themselves after the quest is done. It's a recovery period.

 

Removing things by console is a sure way to end up with issues.

 

 

Oh no, the Quest finished normally and all items got removed from inventory... BUT the gloves remained on the character  making me unable to equip anything else on that slot, that is why I removed them via console.

[CliftonJD]

 

 

 

Just finished the SPriggan quest and for some reason I still have the cuffs visibly equiped but not on the inventory. Otherwise really enjoying this

 

 

EDIT: Managed to remove with console

 

Also... i know totally different mods and what not... But playing this and Capturd Dreams... I can't help to imagine  "Master" from that mod is actually Sanguine just toying around

 

That did happen to me too, i just thought it was a freak accident and moved on (removed through console) but i guess it might be a bug.

 

 

Spriggan hands and feet take a long time to remove by themselves after the quest is done. It's a recovery period.

 

Removing things by console is a sure way to end up with issues.

 

 

Oh no, the Quest finished normally and all items got removed from inventory... BUT the gloves remained on the character  making me unable to equip anything else on that slot, that is why I removed them via console.

 

I Second That as stated in my above postings (glad somebody else notices this issue)

[Azn]

 

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Do you have DDRestrained? It's needed for the gag.

 

Yup, and it's the latest version.  0.10. 

[Piiska]

There's something wrong with this mod for me and I'm out of idead how to really fix this and I have even tried a few clean re-installs of Skyrim now for no good results. For example if I attack a guard in Dawnstar I get enslaved, which apparently shouldn't happen and I found this error in my log 

 

[08/30/2014 - 01:36:30PM] SD DA enslavement bleedout start

[08/30/2014 - 01:36:31PM] _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (0002D4CC)>] found:False

[08/30/2014 - 01:36:31PM] Error: Cannot call ValidateActor() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout (2413CEAF)]._SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout.EnslaveAtEndOfBleedout() - "_SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout.psc" Line 87

[08/30/2014 - 01:36:31PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp9"

stack:

[_SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout (2413CEAF)]._SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout.EnslaveAtEndOfBleedout() - "_SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout.psc" Line 87

 

I'm using very few mods here's the load order: http://pastebin.com/sEQ8gvzk

 

This is also in a new game with alternate start where I choose to go straight to Dawnstar.

 

It's probably worth mentioning that I do have XPMS skeleton installed and I have ran FNIS and all that stuff. I'm using latest versions of all the mods.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

There's something wrong with this mod for me and I'm out of idead how to really fix this and I have even tried a few clean re-installs of Skyrim now for no good results. For example if I attack a guard in Dawnstar I get enslaved, which apparently shouldn't happen and I found this error in my log 

 

[08/30/2014 - 01:36:30PM] SD DA enslavement bleedout start

[08/30/2014 - 01:36:31PM] _SD::actorFactionInList akActor:[Actor < (0002D4CC)>] found:False

[08/30/2014 - 01:36:31PM] Error: Cannot call ValidateActor() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[_SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout (2413CEAF)]._SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout.EnslaveAtEndOfBleedout() - "_SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout.psc" Line 87

[08/30/2014 - 01:36:31PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp9"

stack:

[_SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout (2413CEAF)]._SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout.EnslaveAtEndOfBleedout() - "_SD_DA_EnslavementBleedout.psc" Line 87

 

I'm using very few mods here's the load order: http://pastebin.com/sEQ8gvzk

 

This is also in a new game with alternate start where I choose to go straight to Dawnstar.

 

It's probably worth mentioning that I do have XPMS skeleton installed and I have ran FNIS and all that stuff. I'm using latest versions of all the mods.

 

 

Are you sure enslavement is not happening?

 

From the log, it looks like it did happen. The enslavement scenario from DA is triggered and you are receiving the iron cuffs and scene from SD.

 

Did you try waiting for a while after the scene ends?

 

I will look into that error for bleedout but that has nothing to do with enslavement.

[Piiska]

 

 

 

Are you sure enslavement is not happening?

 

From the log, it looks like it did happen. The enslavement scenario from DA is triggered and you are receiving the iron cuffs and scene from SD.

 

Did you try waiting for a while after the scene ends?

 

I will look into that error for bleedout but that has nothing to do with enslavement.

 

Enslavement happened, but by a Dawnstar guard. Is that supposed to happen?

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

 

 

 

Are you sure enslavement is not happening?

 

From the log, it looks like it did happen. The enslavement scenario from DA is triggered and you are receiving the iron cuffs and scene from SD.

 

Did you try waiting for a while after the scene ends?

 

I will look into that error for bleedout but that has nothing to do with enslavement.

 

Enslavement happened, but by a Dawnstar guard. Is that supposed to happen?

That. Yes.

 

I think I removed that restriction a while ago.

If you have Prison Overhaul, you can give it higher priority that SD in DA menu.

[IchX]

 

 

Now this has been bothering me for quite a while:

I somehow can't get enslaved by fight. Everytime I should be enslaved, I get send to dreamworld, however if I ask someone (wearing shackles from Dreamworld) to help me or something, he can enslave me. So the Problem is the enslavement through fight, the actual enslavement after that works fine.

I have defeat installed, which strangely starts of with "Player as Victim - Active" but if I click to the submenu "`Player as Victim", there is some text like "You Need to turn on Player as Victim before you can Change something and there are no Options. If I Change it to unactive/uninstalled and switch it back to active (it's installed instead of active right? I'm not that sure rn) the menu and everything is completely visible,  and I can click check/uncheck everything, however defeat doesn't work anymore.

So I can't Change the Options for defeat.

But back to Topic, in DA menu, I had everything expect of SD Enslavement deactived (On Bleedout Events etc.) but I still got send to the Dreamworld.

I don't know if somebody else already had this Problem, but I'd appreciate some help. I know I got some Terms wrong (like install/active or submenu) but it's been a while since I last played Skyrim (I got the latest SD update however, it's not THAT Long) and I Play it in another language.

your issue is easier to handle than current issues - most common issues with enslavement spur from using this alongside defeat - personally i use submit rather than defeat, some use all 3, but with submit i can tell you it has settings that come for the most part disabled and i additionally turn off anything that might inadvertantly auto-trigger....those 2 aside you get to death alternative settings, keep in mind only certain factions can still enslave, and only sentient beings

i set my death alternative bleedout to trigger at 10% health (it comes by default at 0) and personally i also set the immunity recovery duration to 1second, as low as it can go and disabled all follower behavior of da, so the player can't come back to life from OP followers And "on bleedout events", i completely disabled necromantic absorbtion

try those settings, get it working then manipulate to your liking

 

 

Defeat 5.3 works quite well with SD and DA since it uses the same system.

 

You issue looks like you are dying before being enslaved.

 

Increase the health threshold and large hit buffer in DA to give a chance to the mod to detect you are defeated before considering you dead.

 

 

 

Thank you all for your help.  It still doesn't work always, but at least it worked 1/5 tries yesterday.

 

I've another Problem, now that I can't change any options in Defeat, I cannot set the Surrender key to another key. So right now, Defeat and SD surrender keys are on "K". I tried replacing the SD surrender key to another one, however, this won't be saved and the surrender key in SD is still K.

Also if I press K, there are only three options: "Pray to the Gods", "Last Breath", "Resist". None of them allows me to surrender in combat and I don't get what "Last Breath" should do.

 

[Lyman the Lunatic]

Haven't download the fix, messing around with the vampire. For some reason it works so well on the vampire, my char. just got enslaved by a vampire & was turned vampire through rapes & abuses (mostly rapes) So I like it. The mod didn't give her the chastity belt, only the "armbinder" & an iron collar which looks like it's from Zaz but too thin. Any particular bug? Armbinder pop up aside, there's 1 time I CTD when a sex was trying to start when a "Get in your cage now" pops up.

The "Is there any task for me..." didn't release her hands.

There's no option to ask her master to follow her after she joined his faction, although the begging to have the "armbinders" removed conversations have her vampire master talk as if he's her husband with a reply of "I love you" and "I could do more something something" options. Makes sense I guess, so when is the dominant follower will be up?

[loversdecoy]

I've dug through this thread and seem to be the only one having this issue.

 

When I get transported to the Dream realm, I can't move. Can't interact, open inventory, speak to anyone. All I can do is rotate in place.

 

If Sanguine decides to rape me, then I'm free to move afterwards, but until then I just stand there looking around while he patrols around the place.

 

Any idea whats causing that?

[Vithiss]

I've dug through this thread and seem to be the only one having this issue.

 

When I get transported to the Dream realm, I can't move. Can't interact, open inventory, speak to anyone. All I can do is rotate in place.

 

If Sanguine decides to rape me, then I'm free to move afterwards, but until then I just stand there looking around while he patrols around the place.

 

Any idea whats causing that?

 

I can't tell you for sure why this happens, but you can try these things to see if they help, otherwise, you'll likely have to go back to a previous save.

 

If you use Defeat, run it's Cleanup function from MCM,

In DA MCM on the utility tab, reset the player state and status - I think you have to exit the menus for each of these to take effect.

In Sexlab mcm try the Stop current Animation utility function

 

I have had a similar thing happen when I tried to interact with an npc at the same time they were about to start a sexlab animation. Getting another sexlab animation to run has always fixed it for me.

 

hope that helps

 

[Buffmutti]

I've dug through this thread and seem to be the only one having this issue.

 

When I get transported to the Dream realm, I can't move. Can't interact, open inventory, speak to anyone. All I can do is rotate in place.

 

If Sanguine decides to rape me, then I'm free to move afterwards, but until then I just stand there looking around while he patrols around the place.

 

Any idea whats causing that?

 

Just press 'K' and then choose "Resist" and you will be able to move again.

[DasPoo]

So I'm having the issue where surrendering gives me the "last Breath/Pryer" options, and whenever I actually get enslaved, the enslavement only lasts for a few seconds. I get equipped with the restraints, but nothing more.

[CliftonJD]

Haven't download the fix, messing around with the vampire. For some reason it works so well on the vampire, my char. just got enslaved by a vampire & was turned vampire through rapes & abuses (mostly rapes) So I like it. The mod didn't give her the chastity belt, only the "armbinder" & an iron collar which looks like it's from Zaz but too thin. Any particular bug? Armbinder pop up aside, there's 1 time I CTD when a sex was trying to start when a "Get in your cage now" pops up.

The "Is there any task for me..." didn't release her hands.

There's no option to ask her master to follow her after she joined his faction, although the begging to have the "armbinders" removed conversations have her vampire master talk as if he's her husband with a reply of "I love you" and "I could do more something something" options. Makes sense I guess, so when is the dominant follower will be up?

death alternate is reported to have its own vampire enslavement, might be what you have there, maybe try checking the sd+ screens to see if enslavement is listed there