Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[XmachinatorX]

Hi.

I'm having problem with animation during slaving

Using the console I see two animation appear but the system only show the second type, not the first one, for example, the first one is AP anal which never showed, but the second Zync Lesbian is showed.

 

[FRIdSUN]

I would like to lay out some problems I have encountered using SD+. The mods I used which interfered with this are Devious Helpless and DD_restrained. The former causes owner and NPC around to f**k PC because of the bondage. The latter adds an additional option to owner (and all NPCs) when gagged. Other than these obvious effects I have encountered:

 

1. The gag doesn't block any dialogue as DDI would do.

2. Despite of multiple messages about the master removing the gag, the gag is still in place, triggering GagSFX.

3. Struggling out of DDI Armbinder (struggling until loose and "take it off") does not unequip the armbinder, despite the notice.

4. After getting out of the Armbinder with DD_restrained, taking off the blindfold unequips it, but does not clear the effect.

 

One question I have not tested: Since the master is technically a follower, will invisible from illusion spell work?

[Mez558]

What is meant to occur after the "On your knees, pet" line?

 

I am guessing there is an animation or event (DD or Zaz related) that isn't working for me but I can't tell what and everything else seems to work ok.

 

Also, is there anyway to contol/extend the duration length of the beating marks?

[Mister X]

 

That's not normal.

 

However, I experienced a rash of 'brawl bugs' after recent updates. Maybe that's what happened here?

 

I updated SexLab Util and Beeing Female when that started happening. 

 

Did you update these recently?

 

 

Hey there,

I think I have one of those "Brawl bugs" aswell.

ATM I'm not attacked by any creature, I can walk on top of a dragon mounatin with the dragon fling above my head and doing nithing :/

Same thing with any other creature.

Is this some bug caused by this "Join party" thing, that I accidentally joined the wilderness? I can't remember to do this.

 

And does someone has any idea, how to get out of this again? Except from reloading an older save, because I can't remember, when it started

[Vithiss]

"On your knees pet," is, very often merely a greeting that reflects your owner's current feelings toward the pc. Pet means you are in good favor, Dog is the opposite.

 

I have found that sometimes DA's settings seem to de-aggro everything, or to be more precise, I have found that using the DA utilities to Clear Status Effects, and to reset Player Status (not sure I got the wording exactly correct) will fix the issue very often.

 

Hope that helps.

 

[jfraser]

What is meant to occur after the "On your knees, pet" line?

 

I am guessing there is an animation or event (DD or Zaz related) that isn't working for me but I can't tell what and everything else seems to work ok.

 

Also, is there anyway to contol/extend the duration length of the beating marks?

There is a way. Look in the description of Prison Overhaul - Zaz put how to extend the whip mark time there.

[nottadoctor]

Would you consider adding in drunk elements of RND with vision and pass out options? You're already more likely to be raped by drunks, why not if you're drunk or passed out? This would be nice since most of the liquid in Skyrim is alcohol. And if you're imprisoned and running RND you drink a lot of alcohol when you get it so you don't die. Love the depth of this mod. Good job.

[Storms of Superior]

 

What is meant to occur after the "On your knees, pet" line?

 

I am guessing there is an animation or event (DD or Zaz related) that isn't working for me but I can't tell what and everything else seems to work ok.

 

Also, is there anyway to contol/extend the duration length of the beating marks?

There is a way. Look in the description of Prison Overhaul - Zaz put how to extend the whip mark time there.

I set this to a very high number a while back fDecalLifetime=1200.0.

 

My PC run around absolutely cover in welts for a long time. I don't think setting this number even higher causes a performance hit either, so experiment with it and have fun. Just check the zaz animation OP to find out which file has to be edited. Don't edit the wrong g one.

[Jay1646]

Question:

 

What hkx file contains the seductive dance animation? (The one you can select in your magic inventory)

 

I wanted to swap it out for another animation

 

thanks!

Anyone???

[druzzy]

hey guys!

 

I'm not enslaved right now, asking a guard in Whiterun to "help me with my chains", the guard says ok and a message pops up "your chains have been removed".

 

But the chains are still there and I can't unequip the harness or feet / wrist chains. Does anyone know what is causing this problem? Is there a solution to this without uninstalling SD again? I'm running like every devious mod right now. Can anyone imagine which mod might cause this? 

 

Thanks to you in advance!

 

 

 

Sorry for my bad english though

[DeepBlueFrog]

hey guys!

 

I'm not enslaved right now, asking a guard in Whiterun to "help me with my chains", the guard says ok and a message pops up "your chains have been removed".

 

But the chains are still there and I can't unequip the harness or feet / wrist chains. Does anyone know what is causing this problem? Is there a solution to this without uninstalling SD again? I'm running like every devious mod right now. Can anyone imagine which mod might cause this? 

 

Thanks to you in advance!

 

 

 

Sorry for my bad english though

 

SD's option to remove your chains is a shortcut and still needs troubleshooting.

 

Since the chains are devious devices, it is better to use the usual ways to get rid of devices - use options from mods like DD restrained or Anti DD league, get keys or use spells or brute force on your own devices.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Question:

 

What hkx file contains the seductive dance animation? (The one you can select in your magic inventory)

 

I wanted to swap it out for another animation

 

thanks!

Anyone???

 

 

I am still trying to figure out the proper way to change the dance animations.

 

I started work towards that but I got stuck somewhere and ended up putting that change on hold until I have more time to work on it.

[Cema]

I read a lot of pages, tried a bunch of things but I really can't trigger dreamworld.

 

I tried with 2 characters. First one did the quest to trigger "Sanguine is watching". Second one I used the "Begin" option. First one has never been used with sexlab. Second one is a total slut. I tried first with the SD+ default options, then I tried to reduce the events that weren't Dreamworld. I tried to fight different kind of monsters and all in all I slept in Haelga bunkhouse 200 times.

 

I'm a bit sad.

 

edit : Tried to sleep in the shrine of Sanguine under the meadery. Doesn't work on any char. I created a new toon and used the "begin" option and then slept under the meadery it doesn't work too.

 

 

Maybe I'm copltely stupid and having the quest "sanguine is watching you" is not the only thing you need to go into the dreamworld but atm I'm just seriously disapointed . 

 

 

ps : Is it possible to coc in Dreamworld? If yes, does someone know the cellcode?

 

 

edit : first problem solved by updating the mod from 2.03 to 2.04. now my characters goes to the dreamworld by sleeping in the shrine.

note for self : stop beeing a retard an check the patchnotes

 

now I can try to understand why there is an atronach killing everybody

 

[WarsunGames]

I have an issue.Dont know if this is a mod issue or just design issue.When in Male slave mode the animations is only Female as male animations an male as female animations.How do i reverse that?

[Mez558]

I set this to a very high number a while back fDecalLifetime=1200.0.

 

My PC run around absolutely cover in welts for a long time. I don't think setting this number even higher causes a performance hit either, so experiment with it and have fun. Just check the zaz animation OP to find out which file has to be edited. Don't edit the wrong g one.

 

 

Skyrim.ini, found it in Xaz's post about Prison Overhaul

 

I made the changes, I think it also affects blood from battles as well so you could end up walking around looking like a bit of a tenderised meat after a hard fight

 

I was hoping it would work something like the Cum effect Timer from SL where they remain on the skin even with armour but I am guessing that they use a different system.

 

I was sort of looking to see if it was possible to add semi-permanent effects to the enslaved character.

Like scars from beatings that last days, dirtier skin, shorter/rough hair cut or shaved head.

 

I saw that one of the options when enslaved by bandits was to have the racemenu options pop to change your appearance so was thinking could changes to the character be forced, like weight reduced, hair cut or dirt but it would seem that dirt only really affects the face, not sure if it's possible to do the body without replacing a .dds file.

[jfraser]

 

 

I set this to a very high number a while back fDecalLifetime=1200.0.

 

My PC run around absolutely cover in welts for a long time. I don't think setting this number even higher causes a performance hit either, so experiment with it and have fun. Just check the zaz animation OP to find out which file has to be edited. Don't edit the wrong g one.

 

Skyrim.ini, found it in Xaz's post about Prison Overhaul

 

I made the changes, I think it also affects blood from battles as well so you could end up walking around looking like a bit of a tenderised meat after a hard fight

 

I was hoping it would work something like the Cum effect Timer from SL where they remain on the skin even with armour but I am guessing that they use a different system.

 

I was sort of looking to see if it was possible to add semi-permanent effects to the enslaved character.

Like scars from beatings that last days, dirtier skin, shorter/rough hair cut or shaved head.

 

I saw that one of the options when enslaved by bandits was to have the racemenu options pop to change your appearance so was thinking could changes to the character be forced, like weight reduced, hair cut or dirt but it would seem that dirt only really affects the face, not sure if it's possible to do the body without replacing a .dds file.

Weight changes are certainly possible. Some mods already change it dynamically. SD had a thing where the master "forced" the player to change appearance by opening RaceMenu but most people don't want forced changes to characters when they spent a lot of time getting them to look just right. Pretty sure you're right about changes affecting the face and not the body.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

I set this to a very high number a while back fDecalLifetime=1200.0.

 

My PC run around absolutely cover in welts for a long time. I don't think setting this number even higher causes a performance hit either, so experiment with it and have fun. Just check the zaz animation OP to find out which file has to be edited. Don't edit the wrong g one.

Skyrim.ini, found it in Xaz's post about Prison Overhaul

 

I made the changes, I think it also affects blood from battles as well so you could end up walking around looking like a bit of a tenderised meat after a hard fight

 

I was hoping it would work something like the Cum effect Timer from SL where they remain on the skin even with armour but I am guessing that they use a different system.

 

I was sort of looking to see if it was possible to add semi-permanent effects to the enslaved character.

Like scars from beatings that last days, dirtier skin, shorter/rough hair cut or shaved head.

 

I saw that one of the options when enslaved by bandits was to have the racemenu options pop to change your appearance so was thinking could changes to the character be forced, like weight reduced, hair cut or dirt but it would seem that dirt only really affects the face, not sure if it's possible to do the body without replacing a .dds file.

Weight changes are certainly possible. Some mods already change it dynamically. SD had a thing where the master "forced" the player to change appearance by opening RaceMenu but most people don't want forced changes to characters when they spent a lot of time getting them to look just right. Pretty sure you're right about changes affecting the face and not the body.

 

 

I started Hormones as a testing ground for physical changes on the PC. Weight, skin color, hair...

 

I am still working out forced hair change. There is code to do that in PSQ succubus, so I should be able to do that eventually.

 

I have almost what I need to force dirt on the PC face during enslavement.

 

It is taking time but I will eventually get there.

[Vithiss]

I can see why people would want forced appearance changes - it is slavery after all. But I thought I'd give my two cents in favor of the current set up.

 

It really comes down to being able to rp "different owners wanting different things." I was recently enslaved to Svana, Haelga's niece, and the appearance change thing popped up a lot with her, so, lots and lots of changes to hairstyle and "makeup," like she was playing dress-up with her lifesize doll .. which fit nicely with the other 'oddities of chance' that enslavement was.

 

While owners who would want to degrade the pc as much as possible certainly make sense, and can be lots of fun - shaved head, no bathing-always filthy, scraps to eat, kept caged, etc etc. For some this might only apply for the "breaking" stage though. And then there are those owners who are most interested in how much gold their slave-whores can make for them, and they'd have different ideas about the appearance of their property too.

 

We can always use racemenu, if we choose, at the start of an enslavement, or whenever, but there is something about the randomness, and the ability to choose what will get changed and how, that sometimes really adds to the "story" side for me. SD/+ does that in a lot of ways for me and its one of the things I love about it. Having more generic, always happens the same way, stuff would, I think, diminish the diversity and richness the mod brings to rp and story-oriented play.

 

just my two cents

 

 

[pb2eb]

So it seems that being sent to Sanguine's realm while doing the Spriggan quest is a little bugged.  The hands prevent the character from being bound upon entry which seems to disable player control.  I've had mixed success with using the console to force my character into a bleedout state to have death alternative reinstate control.  I believe some pages back a console command was mentioned to give back player control but it seems that command isn't recognised by the console.  Also I could be wrong about this but it seems that you designed the Spriggan bindings check to become more frequent as time passes.  I'd really like if this could be changed. After five in game days the game becomes pretty much unplayable with how often the checks occur;   And it isn't just the fact that even when fully equipped my character will still fall over due to the check but they happen in the middle of other animations which makes game freeze or ctd due to strange physics pretty much unavoidable.  I really would like the opportunity to be able to play long term with the quest active.

 

Also I don't know if anyone else has experienced this or if it even has anything to do with the Spriggan quest but I had the quest active during the final stages of the Dawnguard questline and now it seems that my character has a friendly frozen falmer stalking her.  It doesn't do anything, won't attack my character or hostile enemies.  Just pops up on random occasions and follows my character around for a bit.

[Galadios]

Guys i am kinda stuck in the dreamworld when ever i lose and am about to become enslaved i instead get teleported to the dreamworld any one else has this probles and does any one know how to fix this ?

 

[pb2eb]

Seems to me you're getting killed instead of blacking out.  Could be one of two issues as far as I know.  Either you're fighting a group that doesn't enslave or you're fighting someone who is too strong.  I would check the settings for Death Alternative.  The default is that if someone hits you for more than 200% of your health then you die instead of blacking out.  You can either make the number bigger or I just disabled it by setting the number to 0.

[Vithiss]

Guys i am kinda stuck in the dreamworld when ever i lose and am about to become enslaved i instead get teleported to the dreamworld any one else has this probles and does any one know how to fix this?

 

 

Try going into the DA menus to the one where the chance of SD enslavement is, set the Dreamworld chance much lower, or turn it off. I think that, by default, both are set to 80.

Hope that helps.

[Mez558]

 

I started Hormones as a testing ground for physical changes on the PC. Weight, skin color, hair...

 

I am still working out forced hair change. There is code to do that in PSQ succubus, so I should be able to do that eventually.

 

I have almost what I need to force dirt on the PC face during enslavement.

 

It is taking time but I will eventually get there.

 

 

I look forward to seeing that, I understand what people are saying about wanting to control the changes themselves for RP reasons and also the idea of keeping a slave looking healthy and saleable rather than just abusing and humiliating so I guess there answer there would menu option to choose whether the player has control or not. As long as there are no changes to the actual face then resetting hair, skin, dirt to how it was is no real problem.

Personally I prefer the idea of not being incontrol, the choice was enslavement or death, it should be pretty harsh on the PC.

 

I have been testing things out making sure my SD+ runs ok with my game/mods (in other words, getting captured intentionally, can be frustrating how many low level npc's miss you while you're in bleed out pose) but so far everything has been pretty solid and pretty Awesome, tbh.

 

Only sort of bug I have found is that you can beat on your owner with your fists while he is punishing you and he won't retaliate (he does complain) do this enough and you can kill him with no real danger. Not sure if it's possible to put the character into a bleedout/turtle pose making it impossible to attack while being punished.

 

Also, I was wondering about the harness you are sometimes forced to wear. Doesn't appear in my inventory so can only get rid of it after escaping by using console, not really a problem but anyone know where I can find the mesh for this? Got some clipping issues with my PC body that I want to fix in outfit studio if I can. (EDIT: Found it - Wasn't looking hard enough, Harnessbody_0.nif)

 

(still getting that unequip sound when I first load a game, haven't lost anything yet, well, at least not outside of being enslaved but it comes from one of the DD mods not SD+ which I think you might have already said, when I mentioned it)

[Lyrius Cantor]

I got enslaved, and escaped succesfully afterwards. I talked to a lot of people and got all items removed. In my inventory it sais I am not wearing any devices (aren't even in there, dropped everything) but the collar does show on my character. any console commands to fix this? talking to npc's does not give the option to ask for removal, but have the "i need a strong hand to guide me" option. thanks in advance!

[DarkWingedEagle]

I escape from Slave bandits then do the I need a strong hand dialouge and if the npc says yes it goes for a second i hear the equip unequip sound then my game visuals freeze however audio continues until the end of whatever is being said in the background. Here is my load order. The last two esms are disabled since i dont have the mods that they are needed for.

 

Edited August 14, 2014 by DarkWingedEagle