Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[malbolzcha]

kinda need some help here. i got collared outside faldars tooth when i was doing the quest and now nothing will attack me. i see theres something about it in the "known issues" but it doesnt say how to fix it. im sure its probly something to do with my faction but i dont know the command to change it or if thats even the fix for it. any help pls?

 

 

EDIT - luckily i had an older save i could load but i lost like 3 quests. o well. would still like to know if theres a fix in

case it happens again

[Golgo13]

Is there a fix for this?  If so, how do I do it?

 

I was enslaved by some Foresworn.  After squirming out of the wrist shackles, I pickpocketed my Master's key while he was sleeping, cast Invisibility, and made my getaway.

 

Once back to safety, I discovered that I could no longer equip the earrings ("earrings--golden clamps") I'd enchanted to help me with my magica regeneration.  They actually account for quite a large percentage of my regenerative capability, so, I'd really like to fix this.

 

I can just reload an earlier save and change my tactics-- I only lost the battle because I didn't know that the Foresworn higher up on the stairway weren't affected by my master-level Illusion spells like those lower on the stairway were.  If I use Invisibility to approach them individually to cut their throats with my daggers, I can win-- it just takes longer, and my current 'toon prefers to avoid killing.

 

The "problem slot" is not the harness-- that interfered with something else, and, when I remove it, I can install the other thing.  But, putting on/taking off the ring gag doesn't affect any of the slots I use for anything else.  I don't have the shackles in my inventory to experiment with, so, Idk if they could be the problem.  If there was a collar applied in addition to the harness (I didn't notice-- I escaped pretty quickly), that was removed and not placed in my inventory; so, I can't test that, either. 

 

I don't have any idea how to do anything with the slots-- I don't know how to determine what is associated with what, or how to "clean" a slot... or, whatever I need to do to fix this.  Can anyone else tell me how?

 

* When I reloaded the game, the gag was back on my 'toon-- and the Master's key would not remove it.  So, of course, I have no choice but to go back to an earlier save.

 

I tried going to Sanguine's Realm via the statue in the Honningbrew basement-- I wanted to see if Sanguine would replace the ring gag with his gag that was eventually removed.  But, no dice... the ring gag was left in place in Sanguine's Realm, too.

[malbolzcha]

Is there a fix for this?  If so, how do I do it?

 

I was enslaved by some Foresworn.  After squirming out of the wrist shackles, I pickpocketed my Master's key while he was sleeping, cast Invisibility, and made my getaway.

 

Once back to safety, I discovered that I could no longer equip the earrings ("earrings--golden clamps") I'd enchanted to help me with my magica regeneration.  They actually account for quite a large percentage of my regenerative capability, so, I'd really like to fix this.

 

I can just reload an earlier save and change my tactics-- I only lost the battle because I didn't know that the Foresworn higher up on the stairway weren't affected by my master-level Illusion spells like those lower on the stairway were.  If I use Invisibility to approach them individually to cut their throats with my daggers, I can win-- it just takes longer, and my current 'toon prefers to avoid killing.

 

The "problem slot" is not the harness-- that interfered with something else, and, when I remove it, I can install the other thing.  But, putting on/taking off the ring gag doesn't affect any of the slots I use for anything else.  I don't have the shackles in my inventory to experiment with, so, Idk if they could be the problem.  If there was a collar applied in addition to the harness (I didn't notice-- I escaped pretty quickly), that was removed and not placed in my inventory; so, I can't test that, either. 

 

I don't have any idea how to do anything with the slots-- I don't know how to determine what is associated with what, or how to "clean" a slot... or, whatever I need to do to fix this.  Can anyone else tell me how?

 

* When I reloaded the game, the gag was back on my 'toon-- and the Master's key would not remove it.  So, of course, I have no choice but to go back to an earlier save.

 

I tried going to Sanguine's Realm via the statue in the Honningbrew basement-- I wanted to see if Sanguine would replace the ring gag with his gag that was eventually removed.  But, no dice... the ring gag was left in place in Sanguine's Realm, too.

 

im pretty sure 1 of the devious devices mods lets u change the slots of the devices

 

[someperson123]

Still can't get the mod to work.

 

Can someone post a working load order for mods?

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Is there a fix for this? If so, how do I do it?

 

I was enslaved by some Foresworn. After squirming out of the wrist shackles, I pickpocketed my Master's key while he was sleeping, cast Invisibility, and made my getaway.

 

Once back to safety, I discovered that I could no longer equip the earrings ("earrings--golden clamps") I'd enchanted to help me with my magica regeneration. They actually account for quite a large percentage of my regenerative capability, so, I'd really like to fix this.

 

I can just reload an earlier save and change my tactics-- I only lost the battle because I didn't know that the Foresworn higher up on the stairway weren't affected by my master-level Illusion spells like those lower on the stairway were. If I use Invisibility to approach them individually to cut their throats with my daggers, I can win-- it just takes longer, and my current 'toon prefers to avoid killing.

 

The "problem slot" is not the harness-- that interfered with something else, and, when I remove it, I can install the other thing. But, putting on/taking off the ring gag doesn't affect any of the slots I use for anything else. I don't have the shackles in my inventory to experiment with, so, Idk if they could be the problem. If there was a collar applied in addition to the harness (I didn't notice-- I escaped pretty quickly), that was removed and not placed in my inventory; so, I can't test that, either.

 

I don't have any idea how to do anything with the slots-- I don't know how to determine what is associated with what, or how to "clean" a slot... or, whatever I need to do to fix this. Can anyone else tell me how?

 

* When I reloaded the game, the gag was back on my 'toon-- and the Master's key would not remove it. So, of course, I have no choice but to go back to an earlier save.

 

I tried going to Sanguine's Realm via the statue in the Honningbrew basement-- I wanted to see if Sanguine would replace the ring gag with his gag that was eventually removed. But, no dice... the ring gag was left in place in Sanguine's Realm, too.

im pretty sure 1 of the devious devices mods lets u change the slots of the devices

I doubt that.

 

Slots assignments are dictated by information inside the mesh objects (nif files). If you change a slot in the game somehow, that will render items using that slot invisible since the mesh will still have the old slot embedded in the file.

 

There is a mod that adds slot information to SkyUI, so you can see exactly what you are wearing and where.

[jfraser]

Devious integration allows slot swapping of some sort. I always have to switch slots 60 to 61 to get dual weapons to show up.

[Min]

Devious integration allows slot swapping of some sort. I always have to switch slots 60 to 61 to get dual weapons to show up.

 

You're referring to the Device Hider: That item is a bit unique, in that it does permit the user to swap slots, to ensure compatibility with whatever mods you're using. The technique used to enable that behavior isn't usable by most items.

 

Slot 50 (The old gags strap slot)  is the new recommended slot for the device hider, rather than 60. That's likely contributing to this mod's unupdated gags not showing up (Being displaced by the device hider).

[pinky6225]

This is my most visited thread, so I will post a note here for now.

 

I am taking a couple of weeks off from LL. No worries... I will be back

 

I need to do that to avoid burnout, to take care of work priorities and to step back and better plan my next updates to SD and Stories.

 

I will reply to some urgent questions but it may take a day or two before I read about them in the forums.

 

Enjoy ya break dude

 

On the NPC enslavement the followers I've had recently have all been enslaved when my PC has been enslaved and they do still have the kneel pose (which is missing from the PC) but they will just glide around the floor kneeling so the enslavement mechanic does work for them.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

This is my most visited thread, so I will post a note here for now.

 

I am taking a couple of weeks off from LL. No worries... I will be back

 

I need to do that to avoid burnout, to take care of work priorities and to step back and better plan my next updates to SD and Stories.

 

I will reply to some urgent questions but it may take a day or two before I read about them in the forums.

 

Enjoy ya break dude

 

On the NPC enslavement the followers I've had recently have all been enslaved when my PC has been enslaved and they do still have the kneel pose (which is missing from the PC) but they will just glide around the floor kneeling so the enslavement mechanic does work for them.

 

 

 

The followers are still using the old mode of enslavement with pure items from Zaz Animation Pack. I will work on them after I am done with master/slave interaction.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Devious integration allows slot swapping of some sort. I always have to switch slots 60 to 61 to get dual weapons to show up.

 

You're referring to the Device Hider: That item is a bit unique, in that it does permit the user to swap slots, to ensure compatibility with whatever mods you're using. The technique used to enable that behavior isn't usable by most items.

 

Slot 50 (The old gags strap slot)  is the new recommended slot for the device hider, rather than 60. That's likely contributing to this mod's unupdated gags not showing up (Being displaced by the device hider).

 

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

I removed the use of slot 50 in my items. I am trying to fit in a few updates before publishing a minor release.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Still can't get the mod to work.

 

Can someone post a working load order for mods?

 

I posted my load order here a while ago if that can help:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/blog/60/entry-507-skyrim-setup-in-2014/

[xboronx]

Enjoy your break SkyrimLL

[TheDudeMan3162]

Ello im haveing a prob tho it might just me being dumb........

when ever i shud be getting Enslaved Death Alternative just re load's my last save...:*(
iv bin messing with this for bout 2 hour's and it wont work for me am i just missing something or have some wrong setting?

ty for your time. 

 

[pinky6225]

 

Ello im haveing a prob tho it might just me being dumb........

when ever i shud be getting Enslaved Death Alternative just re load's my last save...:*(

iv bin messing with this for bout 2 hour's and it wont work for me am i just missing something or have some wrong setting?

ty for your time. 

 

 

What are you losing to?

 

[TheDudeMan3162]

Iv tryed bandit's

and spriggan just to test it for a new game.

I...have using the leveler's tower for spawning.

can that bug it? i don't see why.

[pinky6225]

Iv tryed bandit's

and spriggan just to test it for a new game.

I...have using the leveler's tower for spawning.

can that bug it? i don't see why.

 

The spriggan would have to be a flowering spriggan and if you are spawning bandits via the console code you might be spawning ones that arent part of the faction and thus don't enslave.

 

I'd suggest trying on some vanilla bandits and see what happens

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Iv tryed bandit's

and spriggan just to test it for a new game.

I...have using the leveler's tower for spawning.

can that bug it? i don't see why.

 

The spriggan would have to be a flowering spriggan and if you are spawning bandits via the console code you might be spawning ones that arent part of the faction and thus don't enslave.

 

I'd suggest trying on some vanilla bandits and see what happens

 

 

 

Spriggans are usually way more powerful than bandits/

 

Check DA's menu and set your Health threshold to 10% and large hit detection to 600%. That will help DA to detect your defeat before the spriggans kill you.

[pinky6225]

I've been trying to do some travelling with my owner and to be honest i've found it mighty hard to get the dude to follow me, I've tried downloading and using amazing follower tweaks and also Make everyone a follower and marriagable, but neither seem to be able to override the owner wander around AI that you get if you end up enslaved by asking someone to help you get away from your master or by using the i need a strong hand to guide me dialogue options.

 

Also don't seem to work if you try and get someone who can be a follower from vanilla regardless of whether you higher them before or after enslavement

 

The only way i've managed to do it is by using the moveto player [ownernpcID] command so i was wondering whether a dialogue option to move town could be included whenever you have time since then you can still move around the town and complete quests etc but manage to return to your master in time to avoid accidentally escaping

[TheDudeMan3162]

Ok so it was me being dumb lol.......ty

[DeepBlueFrog]

I've been trying to do some travelling with my owner and to be honest i've found it mighty hard to get the dude to follow me, I've tried downloading and using amazing follower tweaks and also Make everyone a follower and marriagable, but neither seem to be able to override the owner wander around AI that you get if you end up enslaved by asking someone to help you get away from your master or by using the i need a strong hand to guide me dialogue options.

 

Also don't seem to work if you try and get someone who can be a follower from vanilla regardless of whether you higher them before or after enslavement

 

The only way i've managed to do it is by using the moveto player [ownernpcID] command so i was wondering whether a dialogue option to move town could be included whenever you have time since then you can still move around the town and complete quests etc but manage to return to your master in time to avoid accidentally escaping

 

I can't do anything to fix this in the current version but I am currently working on a long term fix for this kind of issue.

 

The next update will come in the next week or so.

 

It will not have the updates to master / slave interactions yet but it will have compatibility fixes with recent changes in Devious Devices.

[MiskA]

 

I can't do anything to fix this in the current version but I am currently working on a long term fix for this kind of issue.

 

The next update will come in the next week or so.

 

It will not have the updates to master / slave interactions yet but it will have compatibility fixes with recent changes in Devious Devices.

 

 

How big are the compatibility issues?  I was about to start trying out this mod, but will wait if there are major fixes coming soonish.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

I can't do anything to fix this in the current version but I am currently working on a long term fix for this kind of issue.

 

The next update will come in the next week or so.

 

It will not have the updates to master / slave interactions yet but it will have compatibility fixes with recent changes in Devious Devices.

 

 

How big are the compatibility issues?  I was about to start trying out this mod, but will wait if there are major fixes coming soonish.

 

 

As far as I know, some custom gags may not appear when they should and wearing a gag still mutes you completely unless you are using DD restrained.

[Min]

 

 

 

I can't do anything to fix this in the current version but I am currently working on a long term fix for this kind of issue.

 

The next update will come in the next week or so.

 

It will not have the updates to master / slave interactions yet but it will have compatibility fixes with recent changes in Devious Devices.

 

 

How big are the compatibility issues?  I was about to start trying out this mod, but will wait if there are major fixes coming soonish.

 

 

As far as I know, some custom gags may not appear when they should and wearing a gag still mutes you completely unless you are using DD restrained.

Zenetx's Gags overhaul was merged in to DD for the upcoming 2.8.2 release.

[pinky6225]

Does the spriggan mask/helmet have the gag tags as I got enslaved by one earlier but was unable to use any of the dialogue options they have, my PC wasn't gagged so was the only thing i could think of

[DeepBlueFrog]

Does the spriggan mask/helmet have the gag tags as I got enslaved by one earlier but was unable to use any of the dialogue options they have, my PC wasn't gagged so was the only thing i could think of

 

If it does, it was an accident. I will check it again for the next update.