SKYRIMCHUCK Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, WaxenFigure said: That's because that was REMOVED, so what you're missing is just the conversation about how those quests were removed since they were not a priority at all, broken with no plans to fix, didn't belong in a resource mod anyway and were available for anyone who wanted to fix them and make a mod out of them to pick up and carry. Oh! What a pity, i kind of liked them Thanks anyway!
SorenMM Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Reesewow said: When you install Cursed Loot there should an option in the installer to include a plugin for Live Another Life and descriptions about being a captured princess. If you actually look inside the DCUL download file you'll see a folder called "40 LAL" - that is the folder containing the plugin for the installer. The .esp is called Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp. Thank you. That solved my problem.
Nenez Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 5 hours ago, LazyBoot said: Sorry, I quoted the wrong person... What version of MO are you using? MO2.. Is there a reported issue with MO2?
cetuximab Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Hey I'm suddenly having a problem with all devious devices that have a chain, they no longer animate. The chains are stiff, and for ones that are supposed to be connected like the ankle chains, they are split in two. I've verified I have HDT Physics Extensions installed, I rebuilt everything in BodySlide with the HDT option, and I even re-ran Generate FNIS for Users, but nothing helps. Any ideas?
_SpaceHamster_ Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, cetuximab said: Hey I'm suddenly having a problem with all devious devices that have a chain, they no longer animate. The chains are stiff, and for ones that are supposed to be connected like the ankle chains, they are split in two. I've verified I have HDT Physics Extensions installed, I rebuilt everything in BodySlide with the HDT option, and I even re-ran Generate FNIS for Users, but nothing helps. Any ideas? Try going into racemenu and out. For me this resets the hdt chains and makes it work like it should.
cetuximab Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 32 minutes ago, SpaceHamst3r said: Try going into racemenu and out. For me this resets the hdt chains and makes it work like it should. Well, that didn't help. Other things I tried: Moved HDT PE to the very bottom of my load order, as another mod was overwriting it, on the off chance that that one was an older version Installed RaceMenu, because I was using ECE, then tried the showracemenu trick. No luck so far...
worik Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Nenez said: MO2.. Is there a reported issue with MO2? Yes, MO2 seems to have a problem with the correct and complete installation of DD. MO1 works. As a workaround you can try to disable the builtin fomod installer and do the DD install again. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/101451-devious-devices-animation-issue-with-mo/?do=findComment&comment=2278215
Nenez Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, worik said: Yes, MO2 seems to have a problem with the correct and complete installation of DD. MO1 works. As a workaround you can try to disable the builtin fomod installer and do the DD install again. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/101451-devious-devices-animation-issue-with-mo/?do=findComment&comment=2278215 oh thanks for the info i will try that
Nenez Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, worik said: Yes, MO2 seems to have a problem with the correct and complete installation of DD. MO1 works. As a workaround you can try to disable the builtin fomod installer and do the DD install again. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/101451-devious-devices-animation-issue-with-mo/?do=findComment&comment=2278215 ahh... didn't work
LazyBoot Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, Nenez said: ahh... didn't work Did you reinstall DDi, and re-run fnis, after disabling the fomod-installer?
Nenez Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, LazyBoot said: Did you reinstall DDi, and re-run fnis, after disabling the fomod-installer? yes, i run a new save too
LazyBoot Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, Nenez said: yes, i run a new save too Please post your load-order then.
Nenez Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, LazyBoot said: Please post your load-order then. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 9 9 SGHairPackBase.esm 10 a SexLab.esm 11 b ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 c SexLabAroused.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Assets.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Integration.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 10 BeeingFemale.esm 17 11 CreatureFramework.esm 18 12 hdtHighHeel.esm 19 13 DeviousFramework.esm 20 14 RaceCompatibility.esm 21 15 EFFCore.esm Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 22 16 SkyUI.esp 23 17 iHUD.esp 24 18 BodyChange.esp 25 19 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp 26 1a Vivid Landscapes.esp 27 1b Vivid Weathers.esp 28 1c Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp 29 1d DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp 30 1e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 31 1f RaceMenu.esp 32 20 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 33 21 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 34 22 Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp 35 23 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp 36 24 MikanEyes All in one.esp 37 25 FNIS.esp 38 26 SOSRaceMenu.esp 39 27 XPMSE.esp 40 28 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 41 29 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 42 2a xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 43 2b FNISSexyMove.esp 44 2c SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 45 2d SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 46 2e SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 47 2f Brows.esp 48 30 SGHairPackAIO.esp 49 31 KS Hairdo's.esp 50 32 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp 51 33 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 52 34 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 53 35 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp 54 36 7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 55 37 7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 56 38 7Base Remodeled Armor - Replacer.esp 57 39 [JH skyrim people 10 in one]-all sexy women npc.esp 58 3a EFFDialogue.esp 59 3b Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp 60 3c BanneredMareExtension.esp 61 3d Captured Dreams.esp 62 3e SexLab-Stories.esp 63 3f FNISspells.esp 64 40 HentaiCreatures.esp 65 41 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 66 42 SimpleSlavery.esp 67 43 DeviousFollowers.esp 68 44 KatarinaDCfollowerAIO.esp 69 45 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 70 46 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp 71 47 Solitude beheading fix.esp 72 48 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 73 49 UIExtensions.esp 74 4a AddItemMenu2.esp 75 4b beinz_plugin.esp 76 4c SexLabTools.esp 77 4d SLAnimLoader.esp 78 4e SLALAnimObj.esp 79 4f SexLab Extra Voices.esp 80 50 SexLabDefeat.esp 81 51 WetFunction.esp 82 52 dcc-dm2.esp 83 53 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 84 54 MoreNastyCritters.esp 85 55 Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp 86 56 Tiwa44sMinidresses.esp 87 57 Nocturnal.esp 88 58 Onechanbara Kagura Set.esp 89 59 DarkReplacer.esp 90 5a Forbidden Ebony Armor.esp 91 5b SantaRobes.esp 92 5c kaz doa_nyo_suit_1.esp 93 5d DfwSupport.esp 94 5e RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 95 5f RRCAhriFollower.esp 96 60 RRC_MarieRoseFollower.esp 97 61 CanCho_merlinFollower.esp 98 62 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 99 63 The Ningheim.esp 100 64 Lara Croft 2013.esp 101 65 SGEyebrows.esp 102 66 AK- Alternate Actors.esp 103 67 Follower Meiniang.esp 104 68 TMSG.esp 105 69 TMSG0Z.esp 106 6a Ahri 7B Cleavage.esp 107 6b RutahTattooPack.esp 108 6c Facelight.esp 109 6d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 110 6e ImmerSlave.esp 111 6f Bashed Patch, 0.esp 112 70 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp I Love Cleavage 7B.esp ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp
gheavy Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 18 hours ago, ragnam said: OK I WAS RIGHT!!!!! with my issue there is a work around Kimy, seems like your install places female animations as default if one is a male or female. I play as a male, and all my old male saves with choice default and default result in my male character shuffling feet left or right or jumping like a fish out of water. THAT WAS NOT COOL. next test..... re install DD 4.1 but choose CG option and bunny hop.... Result was my male character would bunny hop when walking left or right.....MY work around test... I went console command showracemenu, select my male as female, and in game the female worked perfectly as expected... the I went back into racemenu and switched back to male and returned to game, and in game all my male default animations are correct!!!! I can jump normal walk sideways or run and jump and not have all those preset animations on my male character!!!!!!! Hope that info helps you look into DDi 4.1 install for for if the user has a MALE player going on and not assume they are player a female off the bat!! Now I don't have to restart a new game or others if they hit this issue too That's interesting, I had a very similar problem. I think it may actually be the uninstallation of PCEA 2 on an existing save that causes the issue. I also had PCEA 2 and removed it to make room for the extra DDi animations. As a result, upon loading with my existing save, my female character was stuck in the waddling animation despite not having any bondage items. I fixed it by equipping then unequipping an item that changes the idle/walk/run animations (I think it was the rusty chains or pet suit... can't recall which). No issues with any subsequent saves. I put it down to the usual Skyrim gremlins with my install and didn't think much of it until I saw your post.
BigOnes69 Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 I am forced to revert back to 3.0 no matter how many animations I reduce. I reduce to less than 3.0 levels previous and still 4.1 will ctd on new game or saved selection. I am using MO1. My machine is decent running 2 strix 970 cards in sli, with 32 gigs ram, 8 core processor so its not the machine. 1
ragnam Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, gheavy said: That's interesting, I had a very similar problem. I think it may actually be the uninstallation of PCEA 2 on an existing save that causes the issue. I also had PCEA 2 and removed it to make room for the extra DDi animations. As a result, upon loading with my existing save, my female character was stuck in the waddling animation despite not having any bondage items. I fixed it by equipping then unequipping an item that changes the idle/walk/run animations (I think it was the rusty chains or pet suit... can't recall which). No issues with any subsequent saves. I put it down to the usual Skyrim gremlins with my install and didn't think much of it until I saw your post. ok that might make sense to me too by uninstalling PCEA2 to make room for DD 4.1 . I just want to add that I fixed all my other previous saves even quicker, just opening showracemenu and just by clicking done and returning to game clear my player character movement to normal. I did not even have to change sex back and forth. 3 hours ago, BigOnes69 said: I am forced to revert back to 3.0 no matter how many animations I reduce. I reduce to less than 3.0 levels previous and still 4.1 will ctd on new game or saved selection. I am using MO1. My machine is decent running 2 strix 970 cards in sli, with 32 gigs ram, 8 core processor so its not the machine. were you able to atleast get ddi 4.0 working when it was out? in no, then you might have other mods which might be time to update those too? did loot or tesVedit ever give you any hints?
Reesewow Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, BigOnes69 said: I am forced to revert back to 3.0 no matter how many animations I reduce. I reduce to less than 3.0 levels previous and still 4.1 will ctd on new game or saved selection. I am using MO1. My machine is decent running 2 strix 970 cards in sli, with 32 gigs ram, 8 core processor so its not the machine. I'd take this to mean that the limit you are hitting is *not* primarily based on your run-of-the-mill animations, and instead is a different type of data hitting a similar limit. In a different thread someone found removing a large scripted mod allowed them to load with 4.1, and that scripted mod did not have many animations of its own. If you still want to try install 4.1 I'd recommend to start by uninstalling all of your SLAL packs, any alternate animation mods like PCEA2/FNIS Sexy Moves/ZAP 8+, and any very large mods you don't actually use that much. Then install 4.1 and see if you can start a new game. If yes, at that point I'd start putting back your favorite mods of the ones you had uninstalled until you start crashing again. You may find that you can get a lot of your animations back in if your bottleneck was something not related to animations. Also, if you are updating from 3.0 and want to continue your saved game you will want to at least do a good save cleaning - updating from 3.0 to 4.x is not officially supported.
Reesewow Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, ragnam said: I just want to add that I fixed all my other previous saves even quicker, just opening showracemenu and just by clicking done and returning to game clear my player character movement to normal. I did not even have to change sex back and forth. It could be that doing that in showracemenu had a similar effect to equipping a DD item by resetting your character's animations to the proper set - and is easier to do than install a side mod like DD for Him just to equip a male player with a DD item to fix a PCEA2 bug. Good thing to know if people have this issue in the future. 1
ragnam Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Reesewow said: I'd take this to mean that the limit you are hitting is *not* primarily based on your run-of-the-mill animations, and instead is a different type of data hitting a similar limit. In a different thread someone found removing a large scripted mod allowed them to load with 4.1, and that scripted mod did not have many animations of its own. If you still want to try install 4.1 I'd recommend to start by uninstalling all of your SLAL packs, any alternate animation mods like PCEA2/FNIS Sexy Moves/ZAP 8+, and any very large mods you don't actually use that much. Then install 4.1 and see if you can start a new game. If yes, at that point I'd start putting back your favorite mods of the ones you had uninstalled until you start crashing again. You may find that you can get a lot of your animations back in if your bottleneck was something not related to animations. Also, if you are updating from 3.0 and want to continue your saved game you will want to at least do a good save cleaning - updating from 3.0 to 4.x is not officially supported. I started with PCEA2, it had like 500+ alternate animations all on its own (was just enough room) , and I was able to leave all my slal in place. I got lucky. but if people dont even have PCEA2 installed, yeah they might have to start on the slals
Reesewow Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, ragnam said: I started with PCEA2, it had like 500+ alternate animations all on its own (was just enough room) , and I was able to leave all my slal in place. I got lucky. but if people dont even have PCEA2 installed, yeah they might have to start on the slals Another *huge* AA using mod that I bet a large portion of users don't even realize they have loaded is XPMSE's alternate animations - if default settings are used in the FOMOD installer XPMSE will install a large amount of alternate animations for the alternate weapon styles/holsters and those will be registered in FNIS even if you don't have the .esp active. Simply re-installing XPMSE to the latest version and ensuring that I selected *none* to all animation and character creation selections made the following change to my FNIS animation counts: WITH XPMSE animation files installed - mt_behavior usage: 70.8 % ( 26 furniture, 32 offset, 0 chair, 107 alternate animations) 0_master usage: 20.3 % ( 3 paired, 1 kill, 132 alternate animations) Alternate Animation mods: 6 sets: 61 total groups: 309 added file slots: 2330 alternate files: 1251 9291 animations for 45 mods successfully included (character) 3909 animations for 14 mods and 43 creatures successfully included. WITHOUT XPMSE animations installed - mt_behavior usage: 70.8 % ( 26 furniture, 32 offset, 0 chair, 107 alternate animations) 0_master usage: 18.8 % ( 3 paired, 1 kill, 54 alternate animations) Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 45 total groups: 279 added file slots: 2160 alternate files: 1087 9127 animations for 44 mods successfully included (character) 3909 animations for 14 mods and 43 creatures successfully included. So even as someone who's been playing modded Skyrim for a long time - I had mod data installed that I was 100% not using, took up a significant portion of my AA "budget" and added 164 unused animations to my game files. 4
BigOnes69 Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 17 hours ago, ragnam said: ok that might make sense to me too by uninstalling PCEA2 to make room for DD 4.1 . I just want to add that I fixed all my other previous saves even quicker, just opening showracemenu and just by clicking done and returning to game clear my player character movement to normal. I did not even have to change sex back and forth. were you able to atleast get ddi 4.0 working when it was out? in no, then you might have other mods which might be time to update those too? did loot or tesVedit ever give you any hints? I did get 4.0 to work. For some reason after upgrading to 4.1 I could only revert to 3.0 to get it to work. I work on my installation through MO regular and watch my saves with save tool. I hardly ever have to clean my saves because they are already clean and have not had any problems until this.
BigOnes69 Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 17 hours ago, Reesewow said: I'd take this to mean that the limit you are hitting is *not* primarily based on your run-of-the-mill animations, and instead is a different type of data hitting a similar limit. In a different thread someone found removing a large scripted mod allowed them to load with 4.1, and that scripted mod did not have many animations of its own. If you still want to try install 4.1 I'd recommend to start by uninstalling all of your SLAL packs, any alternate animation mods like PCEA2/FNIS Sexy Moves/ZAP 8+, and any very large mods you don't actually use that much. Then install 4.1 and see if you can start a new game. If yes, at that point I'd start putting back your favorite mods of the ones you had uninstalled until you start crashing again. You may find that you can get a lot of your animations back in if your bottleneck was something not related to animations. Also, if you are updating from 3.0 and want to continue your saved game you will want to at least do a good save cleaning - updating from 3.0 to 4.x is not officially supported. You are probably right on some other mod but to find the culprit when the culprit is really DDI is frustrating. Devious followers wants you to upgrade to 4.1 so I thought I would to get the added features and try it out.
ragnam Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, BigOnes69 said: You are probably right on some other mod but to find the culprit when the culprit is really DDI is frustrating. Devious followers wants you to upgrade to 4.1 so I thought I would to get the added features and try it out. I use NMM, but this is what I did Do you have PCEA2 installed? I dumped mine. and I uninstalled from all profiles any real old idle animations "sexy idle animations" https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53396/? Keep and make sure all my common mads are updated like DD, TDF, PAHE, SL, HSH, my papyrus is pretty clean no hang ups. Was was much closer to 9300 animations and 2200 animations, pcea2 made the most room for me. this is only the snippet at the bottom of my FNIS results with DDi 4.1 install if it helps you shoot for numbers. Alternate Animation mods: 6 sets: 60 total groups: 294 added file slots: 2189 alternate files: 1110 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading K4Anims V?.? ... 8965 animations for 49 mods successfully included (character) 1612 animations for 5 mods and 38 creatures successfully included.
BigOnes69 Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 5 hours ago, ragnam said: I use NMM, but this is what I did Do you have PCEA2 installed? I dumped mine. and I uninstalled from all profiles any real old idle animations "sexy idle animations" https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53396/? Keep and make sure all my common mads are updated like DD, TDF, PAHE, SL, HSH, my papyrus is pretty clean no hang ups. Was was much closer to 9300 animations and 2200 animations, pcea2 made the most room for me. this is only the snippet at the bottom of my FNIS results with DDi 4.1 install if it helps you shoot for numbers. Alternate Animation mods: 6 sets: 60 total groups: 294 added file slots: 2189 alternate files: 1110 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading K4Anims V?.? ... 8965 animations for 49 mods successfully included (character) 1612 animations for 5 mods and 38 creatures successfully included. I dumped PCEA2 also. I dumped k4 a long time ago his approach is to get money and that is not why I have been in gaming since the original DandD. I dumped Maria Eden, Horny Creatures, ITF, Several follower mods, and reduced XPMS skeleton to zero animations. That got me back to 4.0 now. I am really afraid of 4.1 I had all this with 4.0 previously and everything ran fine. There is something in 4.1 that is inflating the load on the system. The biggest problem with Devious Devices is that they took the approach of lets enhance Devices at the expense of sex content rather than enhance sex content with Devices. They should have a selection of the type of Devices the player wants at install that way the people that want Sex content over devices can choose accordingly. Animation count and load on machine could also be reduced.
ragnam Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, BigOnes69 said: I dumped PCEA2 also. I dumped k4 a long time ago his approach is to get money and that is not why I have been in gaming since the original DandD. I dumped Maria Eden, Horny Creatures, ITF, Several follower mods, and reduced XPMS skeleton to zero animations. That got me back to 4.0 now. I am really afraid of 4.1 I had all this with 4.0 previously and everything ran fine. There is something in 4.1 that is inflating the load on the system. The biggest problem with Devious Devices is that they took the approach of lets enhance Devices at the expense of sex content rather than enhance sex content with Devices. They should have a selection of the type of Devices the player wants at install that way the people that want Sex content over devices can choose accordingly. Animation count and load on machine could also be reduced. so when you run fnis what are your overall counts? Yeah I could see a module selection and build might be nicer, choose what you want and submit. but I think atm most mods are done for a catch all for other intergrated mods and that nothing is left out. Hopefully one day it can be split up some into styles of play?
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now