Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

*Min* · December 13, 2013

Well got the quest working but after the quest when I enter in some buildings or houses and then going outside again I get some message that I cant wear more than one device belt and cluffs , but I didnt had any on my character after the quest.

And now every time leave a building the messages appear, So I will attach the log here. The rest is working flawless... Well mostly , sometimes I have a crash marathon.

Post #889 ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21484-devious-devices-integration-now-with-quests-12092013/?p=596085 )contains a patch that addresses that issue in the current version (Which is actually caused by the add-on "For the Masses"). Use that patch until I have 2.5.6 ready, which will contain the fix by default.

Eradawn · December 13, 2013

I cant attach the papyrus log dont know why iam not permittend for that.

Hmm but the patch is working thank you very much again Min .

Discord12 · December 13, 2013

- What I actually would wish most for the mod right now would be more choice with the chastity belts.

I think they are really unaestethic and cover up way to much of my superpretty characters body which is a real big turn off. Some more models to chose from would be awesome.

- Also: I went to get the quest from the librar.. but its only a recipe so I can craft the devices? as soon as I put on on, I get the "quest" to get them off again. simply craft a key, or find one and get rid off it? Is that all thats to this quest?

In that case it seems very pointless and really misleading to me.. I got my hopes up to have some nice (even if its short) storyline to get rid of that thing =(

- I cant wait to see that post of yours =) im trying to figure out what the difference of the plugs is, and how I get the soul gem plugs to vibrate strong and make me cum. I had that once by accident, dont know what I did. When I cast I only get (mostly short) soft variant.

And I dont know if its a bug or intentional: but it seems you can stack the vibration time but rapid fireing spells. , I can even stack them, undress the chastity belt, get into another pose (or have sex with someone) and still get the nice vobrating sounds and moaning.

So dont you dare and change that !

*Veladarius* · December 13, 2013

I cant attach the papyrus log dont know why iam not permittend for that.

Hmm but the patch is working thank you very much again Min .

You need to zip the file as you can't upload a plain .txt file.

*Veladarius* · December 13, 2013

- What I actually would wish most for the mod right now would be more choice with the chastity belts.

I think they are really unaestethic and cover up way to much of my superpretty characters body which is a real big turn off. Some more models to chose from would be awesome.

- Also: I went to get the quest from the librar.. but its only a recipe so I can craft the devices? as soon as I put on on, I get the "quest" to get them off again. simply craft a key, or find one and get rid off it? Is that all thats to this quest?

In that case it seems very pointless and really misleading to me.. I got my hopes up to have some nice (even if its short) storyline to get rid of that thing =(

- I cant wait to see that post of yours =) im trying to figure out what the difference of the plugs is, and how I get the soul gem plugs to vibrate strong and make me cum. I had that once by accident, dont know what I did. When I cast I only get (mostly short) soft variant.

And I dont know if its a bug or intentional: but it seems you can stack the vibration time but rapid fireing spells. , I can even stack them, undress the chastity belt, get into another pose (or have sex with someone) and still get the nice vobrating sounds and moaning.

So dont you dare and change that !

While you have the book try talking to Urag, there should be a dialogue option to ask about a second volume of the book.

*Min* · December 13, 2013

- What I actually would wish most for the mod right now would be more choice with the chastity belts.

I think they are really unaestethic and cover up way to much of my superpretty characters body which is a real big turn off. Some more models to chose from would be awesome.

- Also: I went to get the quest from the librar.. but its only a recipe so I can craft the devices? as soon as I put on on, I get the "quest" to get them off again. simply craft a key, or find one and get rid off it? Is that all thats to this quest?

In that case it seems very pointless and really misleading to me.. I got my hopes up to have some nice (even if its short) storyline to get rid of that thing =(

- I cant wait to see that post of yours =) im trying to figure out what the difference of the plugs is, and how I get the soul gem plugs to vibrate strong and make me cum. I had that once by accident, dont know what I did. When I cast I only get (mostly short) soft variant.

And I dont know if its a bug or intentional: but it seems you can stack the vibration time but rapid fireing spells. , I can even stack them, undress the chastity belt, get into another pose (or have sex with someone) and still get the nice vobrating sounds and moaning.

So dont you dare and change that !

-I'm a programmer, I couldn't create a teapot in a 3d modeling program . You'll want to ask Zadil in the Assets thread about that.

-Regarding the questline(s):

This mod features one real quest-line ("The Forbidden Tome") at the moment. It's activated in one of two ways:

1) Get caught taking the Devious Devices book from the forbidden bookshelf

2) Get away with taking the book, and talk with Urag about it later.

See one of the two tutorials on the subject listed in the Opening Post under "Third Party Resources" if you need further assistance in starting the quest.

The "Chastity Belt" quest that you mentioned is mostly intended for general adventuring. It works well when used with For The Masses add-on. Decoy keys / real keys can be dropped via leveled lists, when using that mod. Aside from that, it doesn't serve much of a purpose, and was honestly me learning how quests worked when I started creating this mod.

-The higher the mana cost of the spell you're casting, the more strongly the plugs will react. Rapidfiring Short but weak spells won't do anything but tease you . The spell-stacking is working as intended.

*Zadil* · December 13, 2013

- What I actually would wish most for the mod right now would be more choice with the chastity belts.

I think they are really unaestethic and cover up way to much of my superpretty characters body which is a real big turn off. Some more models to chose from would be awesome.

- Also: I went to get the quest from the librar.. but its only a recipe so I can craft the devices? as soon as I put on on, I get the "quest" to get them off again. simply craft a key, or find one and get rid off it? Is that all thats to this quest?

In that case it seems very pointless and really misleading to me.. I got my hopes up to have some nice (even if its short) storyline to get rid of that thing =(

- I cant wait to see that post of yours =) im trying to figure out what the difference of the plugs is, and how I get the soul gem plugs to vibrate strong and make me cum. I had that once by accident, dont know what I did. When I cast I only get (mostly short) soft variant.

And I dont know if its a bug or intentional: but it seems you can stack the vibration time but rapid fireing spells. , I can even stack them, undress the chastity belt, get into another pose (or have sex with someone) and still get the nice vobrating sounds and moaning.

So dont you dare and change that !

Chastity belts are meant to cover up certain parts of the wearer's body by design (even super pretty ones).

But like Min said, if you have alternate ideas or suggestions regarding the belt feel free to elaborate on them in the assets thread.

-I'm a programmer, I couldn't create a teapot in a 3d modeling program . You'll want to ask Zadil in the Assets thread about that.

Ah, the good old utah teapot...

NicoleDragoness · December 13, 2013

I'm still trying to understand how exactly the "integration.esp" works.

It seems to "catch" some effects from standard spells and shouts, if I'm not wrong.

As I already noticed several pages ago, this interferes heavily with the playgame, by my point of view.

I mean:

you are fighting hard (I always play the game at the hardest level and I have some mods that make enemies and dragons stronger), you cast a spell during fight and ... you moan excited?!? or, worst, you shout a fullpower Dragonshout and, as above, got excited and moaning? worst on worst, you stop to fight because you're trying to masturbate?

I'm still on my opinion that it's too bad. The idea about this mod is excellent, the stuffs created by Zadil too. But, connecting the effects with vanilla spells or shout is not.

Much better to have (for manual use) their own "powers" to start the effect and, maybe, a timing related on the arousal state of the player, or on how many hours are passed from the last sex, or on the speechcraft skill, or, or, or ...

And, if the effect should start automatically, like sitting on a chair, separate the script from vanilla ones.

Another thing: 99 scripts! They are really a lot butI can understand. But ... why not pack them into a bsa?

germanicus · December 13, 2013

Hi, I love this mod a lot. But have a question. The belts working fine and vibrating according to the set time. When I equip my female follower(s) with the same (or any other type of belts) with all following accessories, the belt does not vibrate and my followers are behaving like no wearing any. So, is this meant to be or I have the problem with the mod?

*Min* · December 14, 2013

I'm still trying to understand how exactly the "integration.esp" works.

It seems to "catch" some effects from standard spells and shouts, if I'm not wrong.

As I already noticed several pages ago, this interferes heavily with the playgame, by my point of view.

I mean:

you are fighting hard (I always play the game at the hardest level and I have some mods that make enemies and dragons stronger), you cast a spell during fight and ... you moan excited?!? or, worst, you shout a fullpower Dragonshout and, as above, got excited and moaning? worst on worst, you stop to fight because you're trying to masturbate?

I'm still on my opinion that it's too bad. The idea about this mod is excellent, the stuffs created by Zadil too. But, connecting the effects with vanilla spells or shout is not.

Much better to have (for manual use) their own "powers" to start the effect and, maybe, a timing related on the arousal state of the player, or on how many hours are passed from the last sex, or on the speechcraft skill, or, or, or ...

And, if the effect should start automatically, like sitting on a chair, separate the script from vanilla ones.

Another thing: 99 scripts! They are really a lot butI can understand. But ... why not pack them into a bsa?

The tie to standard spells/shouts is a single "OnCast" event on the player, that is only used by the soulgem / cursed soulgem plugs. If you don't like it, I've even provided an option to disable most of the interrupting animations ("Hardcore Effects"). The animation is intended to represent your character becoming distracted by the plugs. Should you wish, the easiest way of removing this effect entirely would be to simply remove the "VibrateOnCast" keyword from the soulgem plug's base enchantment. If more users were of the same opinion, I'd add an mcm option to disable that effect (Though, you're certainly the minority on this subject); I'm not willing to remove it entirely.

I developed this mod for my own play under the following configuration:

Master Difficulty

SkyRe

Duel: Combat Realism (Hardcore Edition) (Edited to be compatible with SkyRe)

Which leads to very non-trivial combat

There's already a timing-based vibration event (started via the polling system).

I'm not bundling the scripts in to a bsa at this point, because I didn't do that initially. If I were to switch to using a bsa at this point, I'd be flooded with hard to diagnose error reports from users who didn't delete all of the loose script files prior to updating. Not worth the headache at this point, particularly given the prevelancy of ModOrganizer.

*Min* · December 14, 2013

Hi, I love this mod a lot. But have a question. The belts working fine and vibrating according to the set time. When I equip my female follower(s) with the same (or any other type of belts) with all following accessories, the belt does not vibrate and my followers are behaving like no wearing any. So, is this meant to be or I have the problem with the mod?

Glad you're enjoying the mod. Npc support for the effects/events system isn't in yet. Scheduled to be included with next release.

tryguy · December 14, 2013

I developed this mod for my own play under the following configuration:

Master Difficulty

SkyRe

Duel: Combat Realism (Hardcore Edition) (Edited to be compatible with SkyRe)

Which leads to very non-trivial combat

Hey Min, that's almost what I was playing with. But, without Duel. Any chance you can send me the edited file? Is it Duel Combat Realism HARDCORE 7 + Duel Combat Realism Hardcore NaN fix?

Adam Jensen · December 14, 2013

- What I actually would wish most for the mod right now would be more choice with the chastity belts.

I think they are really unaestethic and cover up way to much of my superpretty characters body which is a real big turn off. Some more models to chose from would be awesome.

- Also: I went to get the quest from the librar.. but its only a recipe so I can craft the devices? as soon as I put on on, I get the "quest" to get them off again. simply craft a key, or find one and get rid off it? Is that all thats to this quest?

In that case it seems very pointless and really misleading to me.. I got my hopes up to have some nice (even if its short) storyline to get rid of that thing =(

- I cant wait to see that post of yours =) im trying to figure out what the difference of the plugs is, and how I get the soul gem plugs to vibrate strong and make me cum. I had that once by accident, dont know what I did. When I cast I only get (mostly short) soft variant.

And I dont know if its a bug or intentional: but it seems you can stack the vibration time but rapid fireing spells. , I can even stack them, undress the chastity belt, get into another pose (or have sex with someone) and still get the nice vobrating sounds and moaning.

So dont you dare and change that !

Isn't that technically the point of chastity items? To cover those super pretty ladies' parts as to avoid temptation?

Anyway, lately I been having crash issues and when I check the log I usually get this at the end:

[Zad]: QuestMonitor is now watching for device events.

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:38PM] [Zad]: QuestMonitor is now watching for device events.

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:38PM] [Zad]: QuestMonitor is now tracking player.

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:38PM] [Zad]: Rehooking Mod Events

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:38PM] InitWidgetLoader()

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (12042D62)>]: Enabled Desire spell

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (12042D62)>]: Enabled cloak effect

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (12042D62)>]: Updated notification key to 269

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:39PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array

stack:

[alias _mindAliasPlayer on quest _mindQuest (F7000D62)]._mindscript.UpdateRelationship() - "_mindScript.psc" Line 613

[alias _mindAliasPlayer on quest _mindQuest (F7000D62)]._mindscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_mindScript.psc" Line 153

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:39PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array

stack:

[alias _mindAliasPlayer on quest _mindQuest (F7000D62)]._mindscript.UpdateRelationship() - "_mindScript.psc" Line 613

[alias _mindAliasPlayer on quest _mindQuest (F7000D62)]._mindscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_mindScript.psc" Line 154

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:51PM] VM is freezing...

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:51PM] VM is frozen

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:53PM] Saving game...

[12/13/2013 - 10:19:53PM] VM is thawing...

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:30PM] VM is freezing...

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:30PM] VM is frozen

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:31PM] Saving game...

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:43PM] VM is thawing...

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:43PM] [Zad]: OnUpdateGameTime()

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:44PM] error: DLC2RRTempleScene04 (0302581B): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager.

stack:

[DLC2RRTempleScene04 (0302581B)].Quest.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ?

[DLC2RRTempleScene04 (0302581B)].Quest.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124

[ (03025823)].DLC2RRESKickoffScript.OnTriggerEnter() - "DLC2RRESKickoffScript.psc" Line 15

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:44PM] [Zad]: ProcessEffects()

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:52PM] VM is freezing...

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:52PM] VM is frozen

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:54PM] Saving game...

[12/13/2013 - 10:21:57PM] VM is thawing...

[12/13/2013 - 10:23:03PM] VM is freezing...

[12/13/2013 - 10:23:03PM] VM is frozen

[12/13/2013 - 10:23:04PM] Saving game...

[12/13/2013 - 10:23:18PM] VM is thawing...

[12/13/2013 - 10:23:29PM] VM is freezing...

[12/13/2013 - 10:23:29PM] VM is frozen

[12/13/2013 - 10:23:30PM] Saving game...

[12/13/2013 - 10:23:30PM] VM is thawing...

Could this mod be the cause of my problems? If so is there any way that I can fix that?

*Min* · December 14, 2013

Nothing out of the ordinary in your log regarding DD's functionality: I don't believe that anything in this mod is causing your issue, based on the log. Best of luck!

Adam Jensen · December 14, 2013

Good to know! I love this mod, so I'm glad to see that it's not an issue with it ! I'll have to check aroused then.

*Min* · December 14, 2013

Good to know! I love this mod, so I'm glad to see that it's not an issue with it ! I'll have to check aroused then.

I believe the newer versions of Aroused are known to cause CTD's: I haven't updated myself just yet, for that reason.

Adam Jensen · December 14, 2013

Agh I recently updated to one of the latest versions, so that might be it. The sad part is that your mod won't run without aroused, right?

I guess the other option I got is running a new save file.

*Min* · December 14, 2013

Agh I recently updated to one of the latest versions, so that might be it. The sad part is that your mod won't run without aroused, right?

I guess the other option I got is running a new save file.

You can run the older versions just fine. 20131001 is the version I'm using (And is the minimum version that the scripts require).

Adam Jensen · December 14, 2013

Agh I recently updated to one of the latest versions, so that might be it. The sad part is that your mod won't run without aroused, right?

I guess the other option I got is running a new save file.

You can run the older versions just fine. 20131001 is the version I'm using (And is the minimum version that the scripts require).

So that version is the most stable one? I heard that the latest one uses less scripts than the one I had which made me believe that it wouldn't give me much trouble, but it seems I was wrong.

*Min* · December 14, 2013

Agh I recently updated to one of the latest versions, so that might be it. The sad part is that your mod won't run without aroused, right?

I guess the other option I got is running a new save file.

You can run the older versions just fine. 20131001 is the version I'm using (And is the minimum version that the scripts require).

So that version is the most stable one? I heard that the latest one uses less scripts than the one I had which made me believe that it wouldn't give me much trouble, but it seems I was wrong.

That's my understanding: I haven't looked at the newer versions of aroused very closely (Given the reports of it causing CTD's).

germanicus · December 14, 2013

Hi, I love this mod a lot. But have a question. The belts working fine and vibrating according to the set time. When I equip my female follower(s) with the same (or any other type of belts) with all following accessories, the belt does not vibrate and my followers are behaving like no wearing any. So, is this meant to be or I have the problem with the mod?

Glad you're enjoying the mod. Npc support for the effects/events system isn't in yet. Scheduled to be included with next release.

Thank you for the answer.

Adam Jensen · December 14, 2013

Gah! Just crashed again. If only I could figure where this mindconfig is coming from:

ig.psc" Line 68

[_mindConfig (F700EB0C)]._mindconfig.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 793