Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[Min]

 

 

Separate issue, not sure if DDi or SL/Zaz, but....

 

You know how bindings put constraints on the available sex animations? It seems that when you're belted and wearing an armbinder (maybe also gagged, but triggers with the ring gag too), the only sex animation available becomes mutual masturbation.... which of course shouldn't happen with the armbinder on. If you get out of the armbinder you're able to do oral scenes and other rape scenes like anal, so it seems silly those would be unavailable while in the armbinder, especially since if wearing the binder and not a belt the same or similar animations become available again.

Yah I just noticed this too like a minute ago ^^ It happens even with ring gags.

 

 

 

Log plox.

 

 

Here you go.

 

The animation starts as if about to show another scene, then quickly snaps out of it and switches to masturbation, and you get the belt related dialogue for it before dropping out of the scene while the partner NPC keeps going until they finish.

 

This log is with a 'simulated rape' scene from Radiant Prostitution, but it also seems to happen with all other scenes, consensual or otherwise. I've also had this trigger the bug where it will spawn a pillory model in front of the PC, and not de-spawn it because the scene was interrupted in switching to masturbation.

 

Well, in this case:

permitOral=False, permitVaginal=False,permitAnal=False, isBound=TRUE

You're not leaving much room for valid animations to be found, heh. There -is- a bug here, in that the mod isn't attempting to temporarily remove armbinders prior to reducing the number of actors in the scene (Though, I'm not sure that would have produced a valid 2-actor animation for you, given the number of restrictions in place). With the gear you had on in this log, anal/oral scenes would not have played, armbinder or no.

 

 

 

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: OnAnimationStart()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Total actors: 2. Participating Actors: 2. Animation: Rough Missionary

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: FindValidAnimations(numActors=2, previousAnim=Rough Missionary, permitOral=False, permitVaginal=False,permitAnal=False, isBound=TRUE)

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Chastity): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Aggressive): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Foreplay): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Bound): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Using full chastity animation list.

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: No animations available! Trying fallbacks...

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Reduced number of actors to 1

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: FindValidAnimations(numActors=1, previousAnim=Rough Missionary, permitOral=False, permitVaginal=False,permitAnal=False, isBound=TRUE)

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Chastity): 1/80(DDBeltedSolo)

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Aggressive): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Foreplay): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Bound): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Using full chastity animation list.

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Found valid animation. Rebuilding actor lists.

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Requesting actor change to 1 actors.

 

 

[Princessity]

 

Separate issue, not sure if DDi or SL/Zaz, but....

 

You know how bindings put constraints on the available sex animations? It seems that when you're belted and wearing an armbinder (maybe also gagged, but triggers with the ring gag too), the only sex animation available becomes mutual masturbation.... which of course shouldn't happen with the armbinder on. If you get out of the armbinder you're able to do oral scenes and other rape scenes like anal, so it seems silly those would be unavailable while in the armbinder, especially since if wearing the binder and not a belt the same or similar animations become available again.

Yah I just noticed this too like a minute ago ^^ It happens even with ring gags.

 

Actually false alarm, I was wearing a panel gag at the time and was silly. But the marsurbation still results in wrong animations. I posted a log in the dev conversaion.

[r5e4w3q2]

I need to remember to log a few interactions, I have had strange things happen on three-ways if one actor had a belt on.

[boundmew]

 

 

 

 

Separate issue, not sure if DDi or SL/Zaz, but....

 

You know how bindings put constraints on the available sex animations? It seems that when you're belted and wearing an armbinder (maybe also gagged, but triggers with the ring gag too), the only sex animation available becomes mutual masturbation.... which of course shouldn't happen with the armbinder on. If you get out of the armbinder you're able to do oral scenes and other rape scenes like anal, so it seems silly those would be unavailable while in the armbinder, especially since if wearing the binder and not a belt the same or similar animations become available again.

Yah I just noticed this too like a minute ago ^^ It happens even with ring gags.

Log plox.

 

 

Here you go.

 

The animation starts as if about to show another scene, then quickly snaps out of it and switches to masturbation, and you get the belt related dialogue for it before dropping out of the scene while the partner NPC keeps going until they finish.

 

This log is with a 'simulated rape' scene from Radiant Prostitution, but it also seems to happen with all other scenes, consensual or otherwise. I've also had this trigger the bug where it will spawn a pillory model in front of the PC, and not de-spawn it because the scene was interrupted in switching to masturbation.

 

 

 

Well, in this case:

permitOral=False, permitVaginal=False,permitAnal=False, isBound=TRUE

You're not leaving much room for valid animations to be found, heh. There -is- a bug here, in that the mod isn't attempting to temporarily remove armbinders prior to reducing the number of actors in the scene (Though, I'm not sure that would have produced a valid 2-actor animation for you, given the number of restrictions in place). With the gear you had on in this log, anal/oral scenes would not have played, armbinder or no.

 

 

 

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: OnAnimationStart()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Total actors: 2. Participating Actors: 2. Animation: Rough Missionary

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: FindValidAnimations(numActors=2, previousAnim=Rough Missionary, permitOral=False, permitVaginal=False,permitAnal=False, isBound=TRUE)

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Chastity): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Aggressive): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Foreplay): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Bound): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Using full chastity animation list.

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: No animations available! Trying fallbacks...

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Reduced number of actors to 1

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: FindValidAnimations(numActors=1, previousAnim=Rough Missionary, permitOral=False, permitVaginal=False,permitAnal=False, isBound=TRUE)

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Chastity): 1/80(DDBeltedSolo)

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Aggressive): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Foreplay): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Sexlab Animations Available (Bound): 0/80()

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Using full chastity animation list.

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Found valid animation. Rebuilding actor lists.

[08/17/2014 - 12:28:41PM] [Zad]: Requesting actor change to 1 actors.

 

 

 

 

Well, this is an open panel gag, and IIRC it does this with ring gags too, so it would seem a bug exists at least in the fact that permitOral==false.

 

IIRC I've seen some titty fucking anims that work while bound before, so maybe they should be valid anims in this situation. In any case, the masturbation one really shouldn't be, since the actor can't use arms that are in a binder. Maybe even just an armbinder struggle should be a fallback animation for when it can't find a valid one.

[Deathmaw]

 

I tried doing that setting the chastity belt 0 to slot 32 and setting hide slot to 50.

 

I then equipped some clothes and they didn't disappear. 

 

Err, i think you've understood it backwards.

 

 

Here's how:

 

Say you want clothes/armor (Slot-32) to hide belts (Slot-49).

 

Find slot 32 in the MCM device-hider menu, and there will be 4 fields below it. One of them should already be set to hide the Bra/Piercings, which is good as those clip with most clothes/armor.

Then simple click the blank field just below the Bra/Piercings entry, and scroll down the list till you see Slot-49/Belts and select that. It's now added to the list and will be hidden when you wear clothes/armor.

 

 

That's how you need to think of it. Wearing something in the selected slot will hide any slot that is listed under it's entries.

 

 

Ok I tried it that way. They are still not disappearing. The nipple piercings are sticking through my armour and clothes. Does it not work on NPC's?

 

 

On an unrelated note the recipe for Leather cuffs arms red is not on the tanning rack. Leather cuffs legs red are and both the padded ones are.

[Coopervane]

Ok I tried it that way. They are still not disappearing. The nipple piercings are sticking through my armour and clothes. Does it not work on NPC's?

 

On an unrelated note the recipe for Leather cuffs arms red is not on the tanning rack. Leather cuffs legs red are and both the padded ones are.

 

No i don't think it works for NPC's, to function the device-hider has to be equipped to the person (it's hidden, but it is equipped to the player), and the player is given one, but i do not belive NPC's are.

 

As for the red arm cuffs... heh, well the good news is that it does infact exist in the crafting menu, the bad news is that i set the requirement wrong, so it only shows up there if you have a bottle of white-dye in your inventory, rather than the red bottle it's supposed to be. Ooopsie, will fix.

 

 

You can craft it, you just need both a red and white bottle of dye till it's fixed.

[harakoni]

how do you remove piercings? Char can't get rid of them.

[boundmew]

Hmm, another gag related bug I think: Ebonite Ring Gag Harness blocks from drinking potions, unlike the standard Ring gag Harness or Panel Gag Harness (without plug).

[Min]

Hmm, another gag related bug I think: Ebonite Ring Gag Harness blocks from drinking potions, unlike the standard Ring gag Harness or Panel Gag Harness (without plug).

 

(You're probably missing the zad_PermitOral keyword on that gag, Coopervane!)

 

[Min]

how do you remove piercings? Char can't get rid of them.

 

By crafting, then using the "Piercing Removal Tool".

[circ]

Speaking of the Device Hider. I'm using a player house that comes with an undress script, but everytime it strips me and I'm wearing DD items, it turns those items invisible. If I then wear some body armor and take it off, the DD items still show up with invisible meshes until interacting with them. Engine shortcoming and no way to fix this short of a more intelligent undress script customized for DD?

[Coopervane]

 

Hmm, another gag related bug I think: Ebonite Ring Gag Harness blocks from drinking potions, unlike the standard Ring gag Harness or Panel Gag Harness (without plug).

 

(You're probably missing the zad_PermitOral keyword on that gag, Coopervane!)

 

(I totally did, but don't tell anyone, we'll keep it our little secret)

[Fearyl]

 

Has anyone had problems when trying to remove the vaginal piercings, when you have only them equipped? For me it will only give me the options to "put on" or "carry on". If I equip the the nipple piercings then go to take off the vaginal piercings  then I get the options "use tool to remove", "force out" or "carry on". Just seems like a little glitch but thought I'd bring it up. I also get the floating nipple piercings on my cbbe body no mater which body type or slider adjustments, but others have mentioned that. Other wise everything else seems fine, good work otherwise.

You're the second person to report that issue. I'll look in to it, thanks.

 

 

I will chime in here and say I am getting the same issue with the vaginal piercing. I get the bug both from a console added piercing and from the forge crafted piercing. I am using CBBE body as well if that info helps.

[Yuni]

I hope someone makes bodyslide assets for the nipple piercings! =O I love having bodyslide stuff. Otherwise I don't know what body shape to use in the menu to make things work for this mod. *wiggles*

[galgat]

 

 

Has anyone had problems when trying to remove the vaginal piercings, when you have only them equipped? For me it will only give me the options to "put on" or "carry on". If I equip the the nipple piercings then go to take off the vaginal piercings  then I get the options "use tool to remove", "force out" or "carry on". Just seems like a little glitch but thought I'd bring it up. I also get the floating nipple piercings on my cbbe body no mater which body type or slider adjustments, but others have mentioned that. Other wise everything else seems fine, good work otherwise.

You're the second person to report that issue. I'll look in to it, thanks.

 

 

I will chime in here and say I am getting the same issue with the vaginal piercing. I get the bug both from a console added piercing and from the forge crafted piercing. I am using CBBE body as well if that info helps.

 

 

The issue has to do with Keywording, possibly?  They might make a script Patch.

 

1. in case you have un removeable Vag piercing

 

2. if you have the Breast piercings on, and have the removal tool

 

3. The Option will come up for the Vag Piercing to be removed with the tool. as in "Use tool", "put it in", "carry on"

if you attempt to remove the Vag Piercing.

 

4. but if you remove the Breast piercings first. "put it in", "carry on" is all You get. When you attempt to remove the Vag Piercing.

 

5. then the Option for tool does not appear.

 

6. For me this is the way it works.

 

It may not work for you that way, I use UNPB but that is the way it works for me. I do believe the game machanic's will be the same, only difference in CBBE is the Nif files used for the items basically.

[Zydar]

 

Um. How are the piercings working out with HDT? I've tried every UNPB nipple piercing (not this one yet though) and they just won't align properly.

 

Also do piercings have requirements like plugs requiring a belt to stay in? Maybe they can't be used with a belt/bra or something.

 

what body are you using ?. is it one that has a pregnant belly ? as in UNP TBBP

 

I am using the UNP TBBP body, and I had to ajust the Nipple Piercing's because it is  not one of the designed for Body meshes, and I do not blame them for not trying to make Items for every single Body mesh out there, that would be an epic Quest, that one could never fill.

 

However if you happen to be using the UNP TBBP body mesh from this link,

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22986-req-sevenbase-pregnant/page-3?do=findComment&comment=633208

I have fixed the Piercing Nif for that body, and will share it. I just did a little Nifskope tweaking

 

only if you have that Body I pointed out, I use it for the pregnancy Mods, and because of the belly weighting it is a little off with the new DD piercings, so I fixed it.

 

place the two Nif files in the zip file in your \Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\meshes\devious\devices FOLDER, but back up your other two that are there in case it makes things worse

 

It works for the UNP body that link takes you 2, I don't know if it will work for any others.

 

 

I'm using the same UNP TBBP body mesh as yours and tried your fixed, it managed to bring it closer but still off. I'll try to get some picture later.

 

What skeleton are you using? Currently I am using XPMS 1.93 since it says on the Nexus page that the XPMSE 2.06 do not have any T/BBP or anything that is non-HDT.

[galgat]

 

 

Um. How are the piercings working out with HDT? I've tried every UNPB nipple piercing (not this one yet though) and they just won't align properly.

 

Also do piercings have requirements like plugs requiring a belt to stay in? Maybe they can't be used with a belt/bra or something.

 

what body are you using ?. is it one that has a pregnant belly ? as in UNP TBBP

 

I am using the UNP TBBP body, and I had to ajust the Nipple Piercing's because it is  not one of the designed for Body meshes, and I do not blame them for not trying to make Items for every single Body mesh out there, that would be an epic Quest, that one could never fill.

 

However if you happen to be using the UNP TBBP body mesh from this link,

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22986-req-sevenbase-pregnant/page-3?do=findComment&comment=633208

I have fixed the Piercing Nif for that body, and will share it. I just did a little Nifskope tweaking

 

only if you have that Body I pointed out, I use it for the pregnancy Mods, and because of the belly weighting it is a little off with the new DD piercings, so I fixed it.

 

place the two Nif files in the zip file in your \Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\meshes\devious\devices FOLDER, but back up your other two that are there in case it makes things worse

 

It works for the UNP body that link takes you 2, I don't know if it will work for any others.

 

 

I'm using the same UNP TBBP body mesh as yours and tried your fixed, it managed to bring it closer but still off. I'll try to get some picture later.

 

What skeleton are you using? Currently I am using XPMS 1.93 since it says on the Nexus page that the XPMSE 2.06 do not have any T/BBP or anything that is non-HDT.

 

 

it is very dependant on your brest size, if you notice I use a very small breast size, the top heavy thing does not work for me.

 

If you can use Nifskope reasonably well you might follow these instructions and get what you want.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21484-devious-devices-integration-08162014/page-232?do=findComment&comment=893559

 

I tend to forget after i get it install, but i think this is the one I am using.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/676-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/

 

The belly seems like did not work right until I installed that one, or i had the infinity breasts or something. But I may not be remembering right, it was awhile back. seems like my HDT was flacky until I installed that one also.

 

also as I recall it had a very good installation set up, if using NMM

 

to see if size is the problem you might go to that lady in rifton, if you have that dlc where the lady allows you to change your face for I thnk a 1000 gold. And try adjusting the body size to see if that brings the ones I changed into the proper place.

 

or if you comfortable with using the racemenu thing, I seldom use it my self try to stay in game with things like that..

 

Edit:: also I don't know if it was fixed, but the soulgem pregnancy mod would after a pregnancy leave your breasts a little out of wack.

 

Going to the MCM menu and setting them all the way to one or zero I for get would fix this, or put them back to normal.

 

::: Breast weighting is a mixed bag... re adjusting the breast bone size can work well, and it can be terrible, depending on how well centered the weight painting is.

[Zydar]

Yeah everything is ok only when the breast size is small, but when its big the piercing are a length below the nipple. I'm guessing that the piercings need to go a bit more diagonally along the weight scale? Not so sure how to go with that.

 

I am also using Sexlab Hormone so the size keep on changing depending on what happened to my character recently, but I may remove it if I am not really using the PSQ Succubus mod and switch to Angrim's Apprentice instead.

 

It doesn't bother me too much just that it could be a problem when taking screenshots.

[galgat]

yeppers your only way to fix that is with those instructions for Nifskope I made, sorry I would have no idea where to place them with out your body.

 

edit or rather your exact body size.

 

Edit:: Yeah on changing breast size I doubt even if you had the exact body Zadil designed the Piercings for you would be able to keep and exact match, as in most breast weighting the nipples are off set from the center point a little. so size change will effect any slotted item to them.

[Min]

Yeah everything is ok only when the breast size is small, but when its big the piercing are a length below the nipple. I'm guessing that the piercings need to go a bit more diagonally along the weight scale? Not so sure how to go with that.

 

I am also using Sexlab Hormone so the size keep on changing depending on what happened to my character recently, but I may remove it if I am not really using the PSQ Succubus mod and switch to Angrim's Apprentice instead.

 

It doesn't bother me too much just that it could be a problem when taking screenshots.

Any problems pertaining to mesh misalignment are caused by incompatible body-meshes (Or, I suppose, by other mods moving the breast node). As Galgat mentioned, you may edit the mesh to fit your custom body-type as you see fit.

[Koffii]

I had the same problem. Updating XPMS fixed it.

[VaunWolfe]

Ok I was told to go here. I have the required mods for this mod but when I create a character and sometimes when I load I get this Libs is none in zadNPCQuestscript. incomplete uninstall/upgrade attempt?

[Zydar]

I went in game and test out the fix from this post by circ and it seems to be working. Either that or my problem is actually something to do with the breast being not as perky/sunken for lack of word.

I'm not sure if its HDT on my end but I thought its either HDT or T/BBP, not both. Either way I'll look into it, thanks for the support.

[judge0]

Min, Veladarius, Coopervane:

 

Earlier in this thread, I had posted about the slot-hider in the last version not saving the change to slot 61 when loading a save.

 

This version now retains the setting when loading a save game. And Dual Sheath Redux is happy once again.

 

Just thought it would be fair to post back to let you know that issue was fixed, at least for me.

Thank you. (and, no, I won't call you a "king", lol)

[galgat]

I went in game and test out the fix from this post by circ and it seems to be working. Either that or my problem is actually something to do with the breast being not as perky/sunken for lack of word.

 

I'm not sure if its HDT on my end but I thought its either HDT or T/BBP, not both. Either way I'll look into it, thanks for the support.

 

yeppers I worked with her some, on that, she has very large Boobies ..LOL and she managed to get a good fit. she had to do some slight scaling (for width)also as her Breast size caused some spread of the nipples as well.