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On 8/17/2022 at 6:14 PM, LongDukDong said:

 

I just checked.  WIthin 13 hours, just over half a day, nearly 30 different upload submissions such as what you depicted in the screenshot.  Claiming set... I would suggest the set is likely more akin to one outfit or a his/hers matching set.

 

Surprisingly, one of the 13-hour-ago files has 900+ downloads.  That's rather curious in itself.

 

 

 

Nothing curious about it. You buy the downloads.

Posted (edited)

On that topic.....

 

Sims file spam really do be spammy. Why is it so hard for folks to just put all on one page with multiple downloads...?

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Edit: I looked at the sims files, this guy just posted *twenty* separate files.

Edited by sila
Posted
14 minutes ago, sila said:

Sims file spam really do be spammy. Why is it so hard for folks to just put all on one page with multiple downloads...?

 

Why is it so hard for Ashal & team to add spam/flood control to the website?  Don't blame the users for doing what they're apparently allowed to do, blame the admins for doing NOTHING about it.  Being reactive after someone has already created spam entries do not solve the problem, it demonstrates that people can get away with it, even if only temporarily.

Posted
1 hour ago, davisev5225 said:

Why is it so hard for Ashal & team to add spam/flood control to the website?

 

The 'more members/uploads/posts the better' mentality.  Complaining about it is pointless.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, sila said:

On that topic.....

 

Sims file spam really do be spammy. Why is it so hard for folks to just put all on one page with multiple downloads...?

SIMS 4!!!!!!! Total of only 6 TS3 downloads from 3 different creators in the passed week. Mom and dad take no responibility for the bad behavior of their wayward child. ?

 

And it's not hard to put multiple files on one page. I and other TS3 creators do it all the time. TS4ers will make one of their premade Sims, using CC from a bunch of creators, write "thanks to all of the creators" (who's CC I stole, and didn't give any credit to, and I know LL won't care about stolen CC). .... as @DoctaSax said, either here, or another thread complaining about TS4 spam, TS4 is "keeping the lights on" at LL, so TS4 will do as they please, get an occasional token slap on the wrist, and continue on their merry way.

 

It used to be the constant daily "updates", consisting of NOTHING new most of the time. 

 

Many of the premade makers have Patreon accounts, and LL is an advertising billboard, so they hold and hold, until they have enough junk to upload and wipe the competition off the billboard. Go to any of the pages, and it's an ad for their "exclusive" Sims on Patreon. Honestly never understood the laziness of TS4 players to download Sims that someone else made, as I find customizing my Sims to be half the fun... but, I guess with WW, no time to make your own Sims while masturbating so much?

1 hour ago, davisev5225 said:

Why is it so hard for Ashal & team to add spam/flood control to the website?  Don't blame the users for doing what they're apparently allowed to do, blame the admins for doing NOTHING about it.  Being reactive after someone has already created spam entries do not solve the problem, it demonstrates that people can get away with it, even if only temporarily.

Beat them all and let the god of your choice sort it out! Or.... Beat all their asses to be sure you got the right one! ? 

 

BUT, I agree that an upload limit should be set in place. 1 per hr? 4 per day? Sites have download limits, both GB and speed for free or paid. So, I imagine limiting uploads to a site can be done... but the lights may go out. ?

Edited by TheLadysGhost
Posted

Current file dump removed & notified the uploader.

 

A proactive measure was offered for feedback by Ashal on the first page (along with some reasonable reservations). Let's focus on doing something constructive with that. Simply taking shots at staff or the sims section as a whole doesn't achieve anything, and is no longer welcome in this thread going forward.

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, DoctaSax said:

A proactive measure was offered for feedback by Ashal on the first page (along with some reasonable reservations).

It's obvious the file spammers haven't read this thread, or they have and they don't care.  Draft an announcement that file spamming isn't allowed.  Also obvious that what you guys have tried thus far isn't working.  The amount of spamming incidences and longevity of this thread prove that.  And like it or not, this file spamming thing is specific to Sims 4.  Pretending that it's not or forbidding people to say it solves nothing.

Posted

I don't look at the mods that have been uploaded side of the page. I just don't never did. Post 100's of them. Don't care. I just go to the downloads section and hopefully the sort option is good and accurately setup (by the site and the author) then go through the downloads(like many spam authors do). if there is shit description, I usually pass regardless of what it looks like.  Then go to the mods that have a good description, a decent photo and needed info to know if I want the mod and the details of what I am getting and what to do to get the results.

 

Spam the living shit out of the downloads section. Don't give a dam. Sorry.  However, to those that do, chances are I don't use your mods (likely ever) as my thoughts are if you didn't take a moment to do a proper page, or proper internet consideration, you likely don't have a great mod that I'd want to use.

Posted
42 minutes ago, DoctaSax said:

A proactive measure was offered for feedback by Ashal on the first page (along with some reasonable reservations). Let's focus on doing something constructive with that. Simply taking shots at staff or the sims section as a whole doesn't achieve anything, and is no longer welcome in this thread going forward.

 

 

Ashal's "solution" is not proactive.  Enforcement of it is, by definition, reactive, so it is not an acceptable solution.  That's why no one is discussing it anymore - it doesn't solve the problem.  The TS4 community doesn't care about "playing nice", they just want to spam files, and pretending otherwise is non-productive.

 

What you call "taking shots" at the staff is genuine criticism at the utter and complete lack of action regarding an easily-corrected problem.  Implement upload limits (such as those suggested by @TheLadysGhost just a couple posts up), or find a similar solution that proactively, automatically, without human input or review, puts a hard-stop to abusive behavior BEFORE it occurs.

Posted
1 hour ago, DoctaSax said:

A proactive measure was offered for feedback by Ashal on the first page.

Unfortunately, ashal only suggested to make some new guidelines and admitted herself that those are difficult to enforce.
The Crux of the issue here is that you simply cannot trust people to read/follow any rules voluntarily.
As someone who has to do a fair bit of tech support for my mods, I can absolutely sing a song about how people just don't like reading anything. So they will never read guidelines. Let alone follow them. And this is true for all games. Sims4 just has a lower barrier of entry, hence its over-representation in this issue.

Which unfortunately leads us to the conclusion that we need a technical solution here to hard-block this behavior. Daily upload limits for example have been suggested by multiple users. It would be nice to hear if there is any technical/other reason against that.

Without any updates or ideas from the staff, you cannot really blame people for a perceived lethargy/complacency. Even though the wording sometimes gets a bit heated.

Posted

How easy an automatic feature like that is to implement here is something only Ashal can shed a light on. Perhaps the fact she didn't bring up at the start is somewhat telling, but who knows.

 

 

 

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, DoctaSax said:

How easy an automatic feature like that is to implement here is something only Ashal can shed a light on. Perhaps the fact she didn't bring up at the start is somewhat telling, but who knows.

 

I think this is a case of "money talks".  TS4 draws a lot of traffic, and even including adblockers in the equation, traffic = ad revenue.  Conflict of interest - appease the rest of the community at the potential expense of less TS4 traffic, or hope that it's a "vocal minority" complaining and continue on the current course?

 

EDIT: Removed some stuff.  Upon closer examination, the plugin I linked seems to indicate is only for edits, not initial submissions.  Perhaps an initial submission moderation queue already exists as an option in the Invision software?  Either way, I found this in less than 5 minutes.  I have no experience at all with Invision outside of being a user on this website, so if I was able to find something related in such a short time, I imagine solutions do exist.  If for some reason they don't, it's probably not hard to hire someone to code something up - the only question at that point is what would it cost?

Edited by davisev5225
Posted (edited)

Looked at the Invision CP over at NSFWMods.com.  Uploads can be throttled to one per day, BUT that includes files, images, and attachments.  So if the uploads are throttled a modder could create a mod page, upload ONE file and that's it for the day.  No images for the mod, no different file versions. etc.  And it just wouldn't apply to mod pages.  Share a screenshot or put an attachment in a PM and you're also done for the day.  The CP function isn't a sniper rifle, it's a blunderbuss.  There might be a 3rd party pluggin but if it were my site I wouldn't use it.

 

So 'proactive' is a no-go.  That leaves the 'reactive'.

  • Get all the moderators on the same page that the site doesn't allow file spamming.
  • Make a public announcement that it's no longer allowed.
  • Delete the files of spammers and send them a terse PM not to do it again.
  • If they spam files after that, start the normal rule violation procedures.

There,  I'm being 'constructive'.  I even did the research for the staff.

 

EDIT: And throttling uploads would require a site update and no one wants to go through that mess.

Edited by Kendo 2
Posted
2 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

Looked at the Invision CP over at NSFWMods.com.  Uploads can be throttled to one per day, BUT that includes files, images, and attachments.  So if the uploads are throttled a modder could create a mod page, upload ONE file and that's it for the day.  No images for the mod, no different file versions. etc.  And it just wouldn't apply to mod pages.  Share a screenshot or put an attachment in a PM and you're also done for the day.  The CP function isn't a sniper rifle, it's a blunderbuss.  There might be a 3rd party pluggin but if it were my site I wouldn't use it.

 

So 'proactive' is a no-go.  That leaves the 'reactive'.

  • Get all the moderators on the same page that the site doesn't allow file spamming.
  • Make a public announcement that it's no longer allowed.
  • Delete the files of spammers and send them a terse PM not to do it again.
  • If they spam files after that, start the normal rule violation procedures.

There,  I'm being 'constructive'.  I even did the research for the staff.

 

EDIT: And throttling uploads would require a site update and no one wants to go through that mess.

Nicely thought out.  Added points for research. 

 

I don't know how much customization has been done to this from the standard Invision CP software for LL. Or how much can be done.

 

Also thought about it a bit. There should be an approval option. Maybe, even able to be turned on for specific section? Then nothing gets loaded up until it has been approved of.  Does this work for this software? Is it viable?  In any case, it would mean more work for the moderators.

 

However, it seems as any "proactive" setup would harm someone in some way. Perhaps that is the reason @Ashal made those suggestions in the first place. No matter what members say about how things are run, good or bad. I doubt anyone from members, moderators or admin wants to make this a bad site to come to. This is clearly evident by the passion that people are having in this thread's post. Care needs to be taken to make sure things are done correctly in a way that can be both sustained (if reactive as Kendo / Ashal made suggestions about) or proactive (as others have suggested)

 

If the reactive processes are implemented, is there a need for another moderator to help cover the site? To help make sure things are taken care of in a timely manner? Perhaps? My concern is if reactive rules are created to handle this situation, if there isn't prompt reasonable timely responses, it might do more harm than good.

Posted

There's already a rule for spamming so the prohibition on file spamming can be justified as a moderator guideline.  It wouldn't be a 'new' rule.  And file spammers would be given a chance to stop before site rules start being applied to them.  A public announcement of 'this is what we are doing' and 'these are the consequences' would go a long way in stopping the file spamming and proving that something is actually being done about it.  ALL of this could be resolved in about 30 minutes.  A handful of file spammers are not 'keeping the lights on' and WHO CARES if they get offended?

Posted
10 hours ago, DoctaSax said:

Current file dump removed & notified the uploader.

 

A proactive measure was offered for feedback by Ashal on the first page (along with some reasonable reservations). Let's focus on doing something constructive with that. Simply taking shots at staff or the sims section as a whole doesn't achieve anything, and is no longer welcome in this thread going forward.

Another rule or rules is not proactive in the sense of practical application, any more than if there was a law against murder... Oh wait, there IS a law(s) against that. So, how is that working out? It requires that someone bothers to read the new rules, which all here know, very few bother, and then YOU or another moderator to still enforce the rules. It won't stop file spamming.

 

As for shots at staff, be honest with yourself. You did write that about TS4 keeping the lights on. ? And again, be honest with yourself that TS4 is the root of the issue. I have only seen that one time when someone posted a bunch of stolen Skyrim (I think it was) mods, that the spamming was not from TS4. Not coming from TS3, as I no longer upload to LL, and as I also mentioned, only 6 TS3 uploads from 3 creators, total, in the passed week.

 

So, @Ashal,I have no clue about implementing automatically limiting uploads, but as sites are able to limit downloads in size, speed and so many per hour or day, I cannot see it as impossible.

Posted

How about putting a cooldown timer between uploads? Just like the one you have between searches. One that would be long enough to make people think twice before uploading another file: I have these 1000 files to upload. Do I want to upload them all at once (or at least in larger batches), or wait forever to upload them all individually?

Posted (edited)

FIRST...  I wish to point out that this has been an ongoing problem, very much specific to one genre of games.   This is not an attack upon the game, but an observation that said content caters to the same genre every time this is brought up.  Do not attempt in any way to say that one is taking a shot at the Sims section.  This is WHOLLY a problem with one particular sub category that permeates the culture of the Sims section.

 

While there are claims that said behavior is acceptable within certain forums, this issue has already been encountered earlier this year, and with the same response.

REQUEST: IGNORE feature to include Mod Downloads

 

Incidentally, this previous thread spanned three months of complaints with three pages of content.  Now, this single thread already had four pages of complaints.

 

 

On 4/19/2022 at 8:08 PM, LongDukDong said:

I won't name names, but one particular member posted within his work ... "A little bit of eyecandy, who has intentions to be famous Submitter".  Clearly, submitting mass numbers of files is an intent.  "Today only"... (as of NOW), he had submitted twenty-two (22) individual single-file downloads within the Sims4 board.  That shows intent to increase one's post count, and nothing more.

 

Insofar as control, moderator hands are essentially tied.  This given basic rules among forums, me being staff of at least two.  The issue is that the content is valid downloadable working material.  And as each is individual, it cannot be classified as duplication, or as either either spam or flooding.

This is from said previous thread, and I had quoted from the previous offender's own Profile Page where he expressed the intent to be well known as a poster within LoversLab, essentially a mass poster.

 

And again,  I point out that there is NOTHING in the rules to discourage any mass postings of individual resources.  Yes, all the uploads are valid downloadable content, but there is absolutely nothing for any member to see, including new members, indicating that collections are recommended in difference to individual posts.

 

 

It is not a one-time issue, but an ongoing and unsolved problem whereby their mass uploading is not being discouraged in any way.

 

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It was suggested at some point that it was a lose/lose situation with said posters and their content.  The claim was that forcing them to maintain a 'Collections' download page for their related works (like "Frank's Sims Leather Imporium") would require them to repeatedly bump their individual page over and over for each new file.... and be labeled as excessive bumping. 

 

I personally don't see that to be the problem.  When said posters of this genre are making excessive individual posts, they do so in a single day, en masse.  They don't come around multiple days posting mass content. All instances show that they do so on one day and one day only.  EVEN SO... the bumping of a said single download page for all collection content would only show that one page within the New Files window and not flood the New Files window with multiple individual pages knocking out all other posters from view.  That in itself has been a major complaint.

 

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AGAIN... what I have previously suggested is nothing to abate one game genre to another, but towards ALL uploads regardless of genre.

 

I suggested earlier that said  RULES  should contain some discussion on upload content, recommending collections vs individual file spamming.  And perhaps that it be informative of the maximum size of the upload size per file (roughly 250MB) and so on.  This I highly recommend.  And I suggest that members are redirected to the Rules topic upon completion of registration, or that they are redirected towards suitable page with the rules which they MUST CLICK [ACCEPT] upon reading to continue registration.

 

As an example, my own site relays "No Disposable eMails" and "No Tor Proxies" allowed in mine... not that my anti-spam system isn't engaged. ;)

 

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2 hours ago, TheLadysGhost said:

So, @Ashal,I have no clue about implementing automatically limiting uploads, but as sites are able to limit downloads in size, speed and so many per hour or day, I cannot see it as impossible.

I cannot see an upload minimum size as implementable.   Some of the translated mods in which Ashal herself had uploaded were... diminutive  in size, merely the content of a plugin which would naturally be quite small.  Yet, a maximum upload quantity per day would seem more plausible.

 

Oh, you don't have any Oblivion content there (yet), milady.

 

 

Edited by LongDukDong
Posted
1 hour ago, LongDukDong said:

All instances show that they do so on one day and one day only.  EVEN SO... the bumping of a said single download page for all collection content would only show that one page within the New Files window and not flood the New Files window with multiple individual pages knocking out all other posters from view.  That in itself has been a major complaint.

The "bumping" does appear to have been solved, with the addition of the separate "Recently Updated" section. 

1 hour ago, LongDukDong said:

I cannot see an upload minimum size as implementable.   Some of the translated mods in which Ashal herself had uploaded were... diminutive  in size, merely the content of a plugin which would naturally be quite small.  Yet, a maximum upload quantity per day would seem more plausible.

 

Oh, you don't have any Oblivion content there (yet), milady.

No, a minimal size would be silly, I agree. Even limiting the maximum size would then create the issue of a "collection" not being uploaded. But, more to the frequecy or number of uploads being limited, seems plausible and fair, just a matter of what amount of time between allowed uploads, or how many should the limit for the number of uploads be... And of course, finding software to do the job.

 

Face it, the uploader didn't just make those 20 items that day. He/she/it, made them over time, held them, most likely with the full intention to flood all 3 "New" pages.

 

Again, some good ideas may not be possible. Redirecting to the rules page is good, but how many will bother to read, rather scroll down, check "accept", and go their merry way? A redirect to a specific rule regarding upload spamming and penalties for such, when someone clicks "file upload" might be a good idea also. Implementation may be another story. All anyone can do is throw poop at the wall, and see what Ashal thinks might stick. 

Posted

Regarding "adding a rule", want to know what happens when you tell people not to spam/flood the new files section?  They still upload individual files anyway.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/profile/6702460-lava_laguna/?tab=node_filestabprofile_filesTab

 

This person even titles them as part of collections (Revealing Collection & Freewear Collection), but still submits individual downloads.  They're being maliciously compliant - rather than have a single download page for the Revealing Collection and a single download page for the Freewear Collection, they're staggering their separate, individual uploads so it isn't technically spammy, but their name is always present in the "New Files" section.

Posted

Being able to filter out content I don't care about on the new sections would be pretty ideal for me. I do like looking at them to see new stuff but when it's all just sims spam it gets old fast.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, davisev5225 said:

This person even titles them as part of collections (Revealing Collection & Freewear Collection), but still submits individual downloads.  They're being maliciously compliant - rather than have a single download page for the Revealing Collection and a single download page for the Freewear Collection, they're staggering their separate, individual uploads so it isn't technically spammy, but their name is always present in the "New Files" section.

Yes, hence a good and valid reason for a limit to the number of actual uploads per day which my dear spectral lady  ❤️  had suggested.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, sila said:

but when it's all just sims spam it gets old fast.

Of course.  And this is not the first thread to address this same said issue, the previous one I linked above having begun in April of this year.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, davisev5225 said:

Regarding "adding a rule", want to know what happens when you tell people not to spam/flood the new files section?  They still upload individual files anyway.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/profile/6702460-lava_laguna/?tab=node_filestabprofile_filesTab

 

This person even titles them as part of collections (Revealing Collection & Freewear Collection), but still submits individual downloads.  They're being maliciously compliant - rather than have a single download page for the Revealing Collection and a single download page for the Freewear Collection, they're staggering their separate, individual uploads so it isn't technically spammy, but their name is always present in the "New Files" section.

For purposes of clarity and examination, I downloaded S4PE, the Sims 4 Package Editor. 

 

The person linked above did indeed post a download just two hours ago as a collection.  However, I can attest that the latest does contain 10 different colored pairs of shorts, though all modeled after the same basic single pair.  Recolors as you will, but a collection of recolors all the same, and would indeed qualify as a collection of that particular shorts style.

 

At the same time, this person being used as an example, Is not posting mass individuals in one shot.  His previous post was a single upload on Saturday, a single upload the day before... being Friday, and then once more Thursday.  To me, this individual is indeed showing better decorum and respecting that a collection IS a collection and is not flooding the New Files board.

 

Hell, I give this individual KUDOS for his restraint.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, TheLadysGhost said:

Face it, the uploader didn't just make those 20 items that day. He/she/it, made them over time, held them, most likely with the full intention to flood all 3 "New" pages.

That in itself seems plausible, as well as the instances of uploading content made by other individuals.  If I do recall, the one who prompted the need for the previous thread by mass uploads did so with content not his own... said content deleted.

 

Yes, a time limit in the number of created Upload Pages per person would seem a healthier solution.  This not limiting the number of files FOR an upload Page of course....

 

Example:  Azurath decides to upload his Skyrim Planes of Oblivion system.  It contains  his main file SKY_PO_Main.rar which is the main file, then uploads SKY_PO_DL.rar for the Deadlands, and then SKY_PO_MS for Azura's plane of Moonshadow Addon, etc and so on.  Each needing their own separate for each individual plane. 

 

In this example, Azurath could have as many files uploaded into his single Skyrim Planes of Oblivion upload page.  As far as the New Files page is considered... Skyrim POO (yes... poo ? )  is new, but would only appear ONCE, despite the number of files within.  And he only created the one upload page which would be HELLA fine,.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, TheLadysGhost said:

Again, some good ideas may not be possible. Redirecting to the rules page is good, but how many will bother to read, rather scroll down, check "accept", and go their merry way? A redirect to a specific rule regarding upload spamming and penalties for such, when someone clicks "file upload" might be a good idea also. Implementation may be another story. All anyone can do is throw poop at the wall, and see what Ashal thinks might stick. 

Be that as it may, having it in the rules and visible would be a necessity and eliminate any such complaints of not knowing that they shouldn't.  Yes, skipping past and clicking ACCEPT just to get past the rules tends to be unavoidable.  However, said rules need to be available for all to see, and either of these would prevent them for feigning ignorance.

 

Adding a disclaimer of such to the "File Upload" system itself likewise sounds ... quite entertaining.  This would mean that they cannot be ignorant of said rule as it would be clearly visible for each upload.

 

THAT... sounds quite useful.  And would only need some change in the download plugin's language file if such editing of the plugin is possible.  Changing or including that would be dependent upon the plugin itself... and chances are that Ashal did NOT write it.

 

 

 

Edited by LongDukDong
Posted
1 hour ago, LongDukDong said:

That in itself seems plausible, as well as the instances of uploading content made by other individuals.  If I do recall, the one who prompted the need for the previous thread by mass uploads did so with content not his own... said content deleted.

 

Yes, a time limit in the number of created Upload Pages per person would seem a healthier solution.  This not limiting the number of files FOR an upload Page of course....

 

Example:  Azurath decides to upload his Skyrim Planes of Oblivion system.  It contains  his main file SKY_PO_Main.rar which is the main file, then uploads SKY_PO_DL.rar for the Deadlands, and then SKY_PO_MS for Azura's plane of Moonshadow Addon, etc and so on.  Each needing their own separate for each individual plane. 

 

In this example, Azurath could have as many files uploaded into his single Skyrim Planes of Oblivion upload page.  As far as the New Files page is considered... Skyrim POO (yes... poo ? )  is new, but would only appear ONCE, despite the number of files within.  And he only created the one upload page which would be HELLA fine,.

Mods on one page is very doable, as I have made several such uploads in the past, and another TS3 modder has or had a page with 30 - 40 individual files, and one that was an "all" zip. So yes, whatever should be done, should be more about limiting how often or how many separate uploads are made, but not to restrict how many go to the same page.

1 hour ago, LongDukDong said:

Be that as it may, having it in the rules and visible would be a necessity and eliminate any such complaints of not knowing that they shouldn't.  Yes, skipping past and clicking ACCEPT just to get past the rules tends to be unavoidable.  However, said rules need to be available for all to see, and either of these would prevent them for feigning ignorance.

 

Adding a disclaimer of such to the "File Upload" system itself likewise sounds ... quite entertaining.  This would mean that they cannot be ignorant of said rule as it would be clearly visible for each upload.

 

THAT... sounds quite useful.  And would only need some change in the download plugin's language file if such editing of the plugin is possible.  Changing or including that would be dependent upon the plugin itself... and chances are that Ashal did NOT write it.

Yes, I agree that a clear rule concerning this must be posted, so when told they can't do this or that, or IF some limiting software is put in, there is no arging about it. But, as whatever I say about the moderators, from time to time, more often in slightly pointed jest ?, an automatic limiter of some kind would make things easier for them, not having to patrol the site so much, or rely on complaints.

 

Then, the moderators may have complaints of, "I wanted to upload 20 separate files so I could paint the "What's New" billboard with all of my crap to advertise my Patreon, and got a message saying I can only make 3, 4, 5 whatever number of uploads each day!" ?

 

Ashal may not have written site software, but tossing her the ball and seeing if she can run with it is all we can do. Don't know until you try!

Posted

For a couple of days, it appears that multiple creators are on the "New" board, and no file spamming... not even a little, that would need anyone to contact a moderator for. Perhaps one or two of the same creator, but not the full board stuff. Not sure which mechanism(s) used to achieve this, but such variety may prove benefit to LL, and to many creators, both new creators, and those with Patreon accounts, as well as games other than TS4. If the CC is good, people will seek out other pieces/ mods/ CC by a particular creator.

 

If this is the way things have been made now, thumbs up to @Ashal.

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