File Spamming Is Way Out of Hand

[TheLadysGhost]

11 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

I'm trying to get this very thing happening over at NSFWMods.  Multiple files on ONE PAGE.  No one needs 5 consecutive  uploads.  Put all that shit one one page with 5 files.

Whatever you are trying does not seem to be working. Since it only seems to be one or two people doing it, perhaps a PM? 10 sets of TS4 porn pics clipped from online and pasted to a TS4 picture frame is a bit much.

[Kendo 2]

2 hours ago, TheLadysGhost said:

Whatever you are trying does not seem to be working. Since it only seems to be one or two people doing it, perhaps a PM? 10 sets of TS4 porn pics clipped from online and pasted to a TS4 picture frame is a bit much.

 

Just took care of it a few minutes ago.  Deleted today's file flood and PM'd the guy with a 'pretty-please-with-fucking-sugar-on-it' request that he stop it.  From now on he's gonna have to submit them on ONE PAGE like a reasonable person would.  Problem solved and it took maybe 10 minutes.  He's not a bad dude, he just didn't understand....and now he does.

[TheLadysGhost]

7 hours ago, Kendo 2 said:

Just took care of it a few minutes ago.  Deleted today's file flood and PM'd the guy with a 'pretty-please-with-fucking-sugar-on-it' request that he stop it.  From now on he's gonna have to submit them on ONE PAGE like a reasonable person would.  Problem solved and it took maybe 10 minutes.  He's not a bad dude, he just didn't understand....and now he does.

So, what you're saying is that some mod websites have people at the top, who actually take care of problems instead of poll testing, or sending the issue to a partisan committee to be ignored until the next complaint post is made 2 months later??? ?

 

And maybe that is the problem here to some extent... maybe a few of those causing the problems here, simply do not know, because they have never been contacted by management?

 

OK... I do not post my work here any longer, but when I did, I did not comment on these threads for me, but as was mentioned, the newbie who is posting for the first time. Busted their butt to learn and create a mesh or a script/ core mod, animation, whatever, post it, and off the front page in 1/2 hr, lost to the Ether, gets seen and downloaded by 5 people, and the modder becomes discouraged. Even on the specific TS4 section, update, update, update (added blue panties swatch), and that mod ends up on page 20 in 24 hrs... And we all know TS4 people don't get much beyond the headline. ?

 

Still chuckle at the TS4er that crashed his game, then bitched about my TS3 statues!!!

Edited July 21, 2022 by TheLadysGhost

[LongDukDong]

1 hour ago, TheLadysGhost said:

And maybe that is the problem here to some extent... maybe a few of those causing the problems here, simply do not know, because they have never been contacted by management?

Doubtful.  I am party to other gaming sites. And it appears to be more common for those releasing works involving mass quantities of like resources to have them be compilations rather than the individual files that have been spamming the New Files windows.

 

 

On 7/20/2022 at 2:13 AM, Gameplayer said:

Sim Modder file spam has more to do with the fact that all the other Sim Sites give very small upload file size limits.

Also Sim Mod sites encourage heavily file spam and likely have built their model around that sustaining their website.

From appearances, it appears that it (Sims4) is indeed the case.  Both the individual who sparked this request by spamming the download section and the individual that sparked the previous IGNORE feature request were both Sims4 enthusiasts.

 

 

There is no hard, fast rule within the RULES topic governing this issue.  The closest to this problem is this by @Ashal :

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Duplicate topics will be locked and linked back towards the existing thread that shares the same subject.

I believe that this singular line could be expanded to cover compilations.

 

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Duplicate topics will be locked and linked back towards the existing thread that shares the same subject. Likewise, spamming the download section with multiple mod resources (ex: face/body mods, paintings, etc) of the same style may be removed at moderator's discretion.  For those files, it would be more proper to combine those resources into a single compilation for upload. As a gaming site, we do encourage new content, but repetitive posting of the same or like content are unwelcome. Such instances flood the New Topics and New Files bulletin windows and discourage fellow members.

 

THIS... just as an example. 

 

Meanwhile, and I have seen this feature in other BulletingBoard/Forum software, perhaps members be redirected to the RULES thread right after registering.  This so they cannot say they never saw the rules.

 

 

1 hour ago, TheLadysGhost said:

Still chuckle at the TS4er that crashed his game, then bitched about my TS3 statues!!!

Seriously?

 

 

Edited July 21, 2022 by LongDukDong

[ebbluminous]

What would be handy is to have an ignore mod option for specific mods...

[TheLadysGhost]

1 hour ago, LongDukDong said:

Doubtful.  I am party to other gaming sites. And it appears to be more common for those releasing works involving mass quantities of like resources to have them be compilations rather than the individual files that have been spamming the New Files windows.

For those with paywall accounts being advertised, I agree. They will always push as they get away with to keep their paywall links in view. But, as @Kendo 2 said a certain individual "didn't know", and that he did PM the person about it, and that person would "adjust" the way uploads are done... benefit of doubt that slim chance, perhaps a few others here also simply do not know, and if contacted, may also make adjustments.

 

But even multiple "compilations" can be reduced to a single page. Not as glamorous as ten pics of porn queens with legs spread wide covering 2 pages of new uploads screen, but to simply list names of the porn queens on the cover shot. It's TS4... just right "NAKED PORN PICS" and you will get 1,000 hits in an hour!!! ?

[Guest]

On 7/20/2022 at 2:13 AM, Gameplayer said:

Sim Modder file spam has more to do with the fact that all the other Sim Sites give very small upload file size limits.

Also Sim Mod sites encourage heavily file spam and likely have built their model around that sustaining their website.

 

Sim mods can be merged together and in fact the mods SHOULD be merged together because the game literally craps out if you have way too many "Packages" equal to ESP in TES/Fallout4....But Sim end-user is just as ignorant about modding as most any other modder.

The thing that has prevented Sims 4 mod author from uploading big files is quite literally the model for how Sims4 modding should be done.

Small File size and many many files are encouraged everywhere else except maybe Nexus.

One Sims modding site I usually frequent is ModtheSims. Large uploads on that site are usually world downloads and overhaul mods. Sometimes you'll see a mod that is a collection of similar content such as shirts, furniture, poses, etc, but it's usually a bunch of small mods for a single house or sim. (This is for the Sims 3)

 

A part of me thinks that the reason Sims 4 modders upload multiple files all at once might be a carryover from the Sims 4 gallery. The gallery can become a popularity contest with getting as many likes on your content to get it trending. Uploading multiple files to bump up your work could do the trick.

[LongDukDong]

Well, I can say with certainty that Ashal has indeed taken a vested interest and is not ignoring this. Um, I'm not staff.  I just happen to see her name next to mine in 'Recently browsing' right now.  So hopefully this issue may become ... a non-issue in the near future.  Time will tell.

Edited July 21, 2022 by LongDukDong

[davisev5225]

Here we go again...  ?

 

[LongDukDong]

36 minutes ago, davisev5225 said:

Here we go again...  ?

 

 

I just checked.  WIthin 13 hours, just over half a day, nearly 30 different upload submissions such as what you depicted in the screenshot.  Claiming set... I would suggest the set is likely more akin to one outfit or a his/hers matching set.

 

Surprisingly, one of the 13-hour-ago files has 900+ downloads.  That's rather curious in itself.

 

 

[spoonsinger]

I blame Electronic Arts - (out of principle).

[Drogu]

On 7/17/2022 at 6:17 PM, Ashal said:

"Ashal's Sims 4 Kitchen Stuff" and "Ashal's Sims 4 Bedroom Stuff"

Wait are these a thing ? where can i get these

[LongDukDong]

Those were mere examples she gave.

 

On 7/17/2022 at 6:17 PM, Ashal said:

My main concern though is how easy this will be to enforce, and how we would be able to fairly distinguish when a user should and shouldn't be putting things into a collection instead of individual download pages. I'm personally inclined to say that while sometimes spammy, single object uploads in sims 4 are fine, but only if effort is put into giving them a description and a picture.

 

Another thing however would be notification of said rules regarding uploads, and changes to the rules. Not only enforcement but recognition that these conditions or requests are acknowledged.  That way, no one would (or should) be surprised if something does happen.  Mass PMs might be an annoyance, but perhaps it would be something to consider if and when having these conditions defined.

 

As towards the issue of the past 24 hours, thirty uploaded individual files in a 13 hour time-frame does lead one to think that making collections isn't on this current poster's agenda.  He admitted that some content is old, so it appears more flood in nature.

 

Separately, and just a minor suggestion if possible:  "Redirect to Rules Thread upon Registration"... that is, if someone just signs up, the first board they enter will be the Rules page.    A kinda no ambiguity thingie.

 

Edited August 18, 2022 by LongDukDong

[ebbluminous]

Just let us be able to ignore mods like we can do for people. Then we will be able to hide the mods we are not interested in...

[TheLadysGhost]

20 hours ago, spoonsinger said:

I blame Electronic Arts - (out of principle).

I blame the guy that invented donuts! ?

[davisev5225]

19 minutes ago, TheLadysGhost said:

I blame the guy that invented donuts! ?

 

You leave the "manna from heaven" out of this!

[LongDukDong]

24 minutes ago, TheLadysGhost said:

I blame the guy that invented donuts! ?

How do you feel about croissants?  ?

[t.ara]

21 hours ago, davisev5225 said:

Here we go again...  ?

 

LOL....why didn ´t I put zap into such small packs???-Underwear v.2, v.2.1, V.2.2....?

[davisev5225]

1 hour ago, LongDukDong said:

How do you feel about croissants?  ?

 

They're good.  But don't combine the two.  The cronut is an abomination.

[Guest]

 

On 8/17/2022 at 7:36 PM, davisev5225 said:

Here we go again...  ?

 

The sexy police and sexy doctor could have been combined into one file. You could even toss in the chef set and boss suit to make a "sexy job uniforms" compilation. They also uploaded the same demon underwear twice for... reasons I guess. 

[DoctaSax]

PM'd them yesterday, had no idea, should be resolved going forward. Let's not be too harsh.

[davisev5225]

2 hours ago, DoctaSax said:

PM'd them yesterday, had no idea, should be resolved going forward. Let's not be too harsh.

 

The harshness (at least from me) isn't directed to any particular individual, it's at the general selfish behavior.  Any adult with the least amount of common sense possible should be able to figure out that spam = bad, but people do it anyway because selfish reasons.  We're asking for solutions to proactively (not reactively) make it stop, please.

[LongDukDong]

12 hours ago, DoctaSax said:

PM'd them yesterday, had no idea, should be resolved going forward. Let's not be too harsh.

Thank you very much.  As you say, they have no idea.  

 

Hence, why I recommend that first timers be redirected to the Rules topic after registration... and an addition to the rules suggesting 'Compilations' rather than individuals.

 

 

9 hours ago, davisev5225 said:

The harshness (at least from me) isn't directed to any particular individual, it's at the general selfish behavior. 

Well, one individual, it 'was' selfish behavior... his own account boasting that he was going to be the biggest poster here. 

 

However, it was noted in another similar thread that many Sims4 sites actually PROMOTE individual postings. As such, they are instead acclimated towards and encouraged to have individual uploads.  To them, it isn't selfish behavior but the norm.

 

And again, this why I suggest the rules addition just to suggest compilations vs individual uploads and an immediate redirect after registration.

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by LongDukDong

[indolu]

On 7/17/2022 at 6:48 PM, Seijin8 said:

 

Assuming that can be implimented, it seems the most straightforward fix.  Who really needs to upload more than, say, 3 files a day?  Can always update an existing upload with additional download links, which fits with Ashal's "collections" idea above.

 

Honestly, I don't much care what the solution is, but as others have echoed, this only happens with Sims4 and seems somehow to dodge the site rules that every other game community is adhering to.

I would change that to 3 download 'topics' per day. So for example if I had a mod to add a house, a mod to add a quest, and a mod to add an NPC that weren't necessarily all related to each, I could pose 3 download pages. But I could update or provide just about as many alternative files per day. Like the house could be blue, or green, or red and those would be all in the 'house' page. Then I could realize there was a bug and roll out a fix, posting 4 files in a day for that one download topic.  similar stuff with the Quest, and NPC. But if I wanted to include a new mechanic I may have to wait a day, to post that on a separate download topic.

[davisev5225]

30 minutes ago, LongDukDong said:

Well, one individual, it 'was' selfish behavior... his own account boasting that he was going to be the biggest poster here. 

 

However, it was noted in another similar thread that many Sims4 sites actually PROMOTE individual postings. As such, they are instead acclimated towards and encouraged to have individual uploads.  To them, it isn't selfish behavior but the norm.

 

 

They "promote" said behavior by dangling the carrot of "badges", "titles", and other "prestige".  It's just a (very) thin veneer over selfish and shameless self-gratification.