Sexlab Survival SE

[SandalsSE]

On 5/29/2025 at 2:02 PM, safado said:

 

 

 

I could not find the code for NIO node scaling in SLS, only the NIO Overlay code.  All the morph scaling I could find was using the SLIF interface (NIO middleware). 

Butt and belly morphs call directly to SLIF proxies "slif_butt" and "slif_belly" using SLIF default modus and breast uses SLIF morph modus.  Proxies are converted to morph based on "Bodymorph" section config. 

 

The breast morph names are sadly hardcoded and sent directly to morph modus (no morph conversion needed), I think this is what you mean by "sent it to NIO". Being able to set the morph will have allowed making the mod compatible with other body types or "new better" morphs.  The author created SLS for himself and shared the mod with the community, I think he uses CBBE-COS body in Skyrim-LE, and the morphs target that. 

 

Inflation effect time scaled:

• Scale = 7.895093 * Math.Pow(2.71828, -(Math.Pow(((Utility.GetCurrentGameTime() - BeginTime) * 24.0) - 22.07231, 2)) / 93.8692231629)
•  BreastsFantasy = (0.3 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts))
•  BreastsSmall = (0.3 * -(Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts))
•  BreastPerkiness = (0.3 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts) * 0.25)
• NippleLength = (0.25 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts) * 0.5)
• BreastsSSH = (0.3 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts) * 0.75)
• DoubleMelon = (0.3 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts) * 0.25)

 

By the way, SLIF always uses NIO for all morphs and scales, it is a middle ware framework.  It only shows the data in a different "modus". Default modus is when it receives a scale value instead of a morph to one of it "Bodymorph" category targets breast, butts, belly. Default modus scales can be converted to morphs by setting the NIOVERRIDE category of each "Bodymorph" type to 0%, then in the "Percentages" category the morph are set as ratios of the scale.  That ratio is aggregated based on the config section settings and sent to the selected morphs.  Morph modus is mods using SLIF as middleware to sent morph to NIO morph while also being tracked for general scale feedback.   Mod can also send directly to NIO and it will not show in SLIF.  Long ago, legacy NIO uses to overwrite instead of aggregate, and C.A.N.S. (Cooperative Algebraic Node Sizing) and SLIF (SexLab Inflation Framework) were created to deal with that. 

 

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Interesting. I guess I should ask if there's a way to modify these value for the inflation potion specifically as it causes a bad case of torpedo boobs

[safado]

18 hours ago, SandalsSE said:

Interesting. I guess I should ask if there's a way to modify these value for the inflation potion specifically as it causes a bad case of torpedo boobs

 

I think that was the idea of that punishment.  Like a silicon-ruined-enhanced female body or an inflatable fuck-doll, I bet if monoman1 could have also morph the head without issues, he will puff the lips too.  Remember that is a punishment, if it is ugly the better because it punishes the player at a psychological level. That my opinion about it.  

 

If you also have a mod like SL-disparity or Morphology (<-needs patching for SE\AE), it will surely trigger the side effects in those mods config, like tripping (falling) but more mana or health because of big boobs or butts. 

 

 

[Mehmeme]

I just did a fresh skyrim SE install, and now I cant build the leveled lists for bikini armor in the survival mcm, its grayed out. Bikini experience isnt though (no idea if it actually works tho). Anyone got an idea what might be the issue? Im using The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED 6.1 for the armors.

[safado]

9 hours ago, Mehmeme said:

I just did a fresh skyrim SE install, and now I cant build the leveled lists for bikini armor in the survival mcm, its grayed out. Bikini experience isnt though (no idea if it actually works tho). Anyone got an idea what might be the issue? Im using The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED 6.1 for the armors.

 

If the BikiniArmors.json file got modified and improperly formatted, that happens.  If the bikinimodname section is targeting an esp that can't be detected loaded, may also disable the feature.   Open the file and copy\pasta the data in https://jsonlint.com/  for a review. 

 

[Mehmeme]

On 6/3/2025 at 9:38 AM, safado said:

 

If the BikiniArmors.json file got modified and improperly formatted, that happens.  If the bikinimodname section is targeting an esp that can't be detected loaded, may also disable the feature.   Open the file and copy\pasta the data in https://jsonlint.com/  for a review. 

 

Thanks, seems like I forgot to replace the bikiniarmor json, even though I was sure I did 

[pleasetryme]

On 5/30/2025 at 5:02 AM, safado said:

 

 

 

I could not find the code for NIO node scaling in SLS, only the NIO Overlay code.  All the morph scaling I could find was using the SLIF interface (NIO middleware). 

Butt and belly morphs call directly to SLIF proxies "slif_butt" and "slif_belly" using SLIF default modus and breast uses SLIF morph modus.  Proxies are converted to morph based on "Bodymorph" section config. 

 

The breast morph names are sadly hardcoded and sent directly to morph modus (no morph conversion needed), I think this is what you mean by "sent it to NIO". Being able to set the morph will have allowed making the mod compatible with other body types or "new better" morphs.  The author created SLS for himself and shared the mod with the community, I think he uses CBBE-COS body in Skyrim-LE, and the morphs target that. 

 

Inflation effect time scaled:

• Scale = 7.895093 * Math.Pow(2.71828, -(Math.Pow(((Utility.GetCurrentGameTime() - BeginTime) * 24.0) - 22.07231, 2)) / 93.8692231629)
•  BreastsFantasy = (0.3 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts))
•  BreastsSmall = (0.3 * -(Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts))
•  BreastPerkiness = (0.3 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts) * 0.25)
• NippleLength = (0.25 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts) * 0.5)
• BreastsSSH = (0.3 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts) * 0.75)
• DoubleMelon = (0.3 * (Scale * Slif.ScaleMaxBreasts) * 0.25)

 

By the way, SLIF always uses NIO for all morphs and scales, it is a middle ware framework.  It only shows the data in a different "modus". Default modus is when it receives a scale value instead of a morph to one of it "Bodymorph" category targets breast, butts, belly. Default modus scales can be converted to morphs by setting the NIOVERRIDE category of each "Bodymorph" type to 0%, then in the "Percentages" category the morph are set as ratios of the scale.  That ratio is aggregated based on the config section settings and sent to the selected morphs.  Morph modus is mods using SLIF as middleware to sent morph to NIO morph while also being tracked for general scale feedback.   Mod can also send directly to NIO and it will not show in SLIF.  Long ago, legacy NIO uses to overwrite instead of aggregate, and C.A.N.S. (Cooperative Algebraic Node Sizing) and SLIF (SexLab Inflation Framework) were created to deal with that. 

 

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change breast and belly to percentage 

[Nectus]

Hi, I have a question about this mod.

 

1. Does this mod affect the player in the same way as other female NPCs like Aela? Basically, do they also treat her like a whore?

 

2. How does it affect male followers?

[Herowynne]

2 hours ago, Nectus said:

Hi, I have a question about this mod.

 

1. Does this mod affect the player in the same way as other female NPCs like Aela? Basically, do they also treat her like a whore?

 

2. How does it affect male followers?

1. I’ve been using this mod for several years, and as far as I know, this mod only affects the player character and doesn’t affect female NPCs.

 

2. I also haven’t seen any effect on male followers. This mod has a “required escort” feature that, if turned on, requires you to have a follower, but either male or female followers are allowed. This mod even has dialogue between the player and Toll Collector about how female follower escorts are permitted.

 

 

Slaverun is the only mod that I’m aware of that has a widespread visible effect on female NPCs.

 

 

Edited June 11, 2025 by Herowynne

[Nectus]

1 hour ago, Herowynne said:

1. He estado usando este mod durante varios años y, hasta donde sé, este mod solo afecta al personaje del jugador y no afecta a los NPC femeninos.

 

2. Tampoco he visto ningún efecto en los seguidores masculinos. Este mod tiene una función de "acompañante obligatorio" que, si se activa, requiere que tengas un seguidor, pero se permiten seguidores masculinos o femeninos. Este mod incluso incluye un diálogo entre el jugador y el Cobrador sobre cómo se permiten las acompañantes femeninas.

 

 

Slaverun es el único mod que conozco que tiene un efecto visible y generalizado en los NPC femeninos.

 

 

Thanks for the info 

[Azzzqww]

Hello,

Just installed this mod, thanks so much for it.

I just have a question about the "cum" part. I don't know why but I don't have the swallow/spit pop-up when the sexlab animation stop. Is it because I have separate orgasm and in some way the male protagonist don't reach 100% (btw I don't know why but separte orgasm bars goes from 10 to 1000%) or do I need to activate something in the parameters?

About seprate orgasm i selected "forced orgasm" to take it back to the old sexlab orgasm system but still no swallow popup

Sorry for my english and thanks for your help !

[topgunsss]

just wondering how would i get Sexlab Survival to work with Ostim Standalone?

[gamerpk2]

On 6/24/2025 at 11:53 PM, Azzzqww said:

Hello,

Just installed this mod, thanks so much for it.

I just have a question about the "cum" part. I don't know why but I don't have the swallow/spit pop-up when the sexlab animation stop. Is it because I have separate orgasm and in some way the male protagonist don't reach 100% (btw I don't know why but separte orgasm bars goes from 10 to 1000%) or do I need to activate something in the parameters?

About seprate orgasm i selected "forced orgasm" to take it back to the old sexlab orgasm system but still no swallow popup

Sorry for my english and thanks for your help !

the pop up depends on several factors which i dont remember all of them ATM . sometimes u dont have a choice

things like if its forced ? is ur character addicted ? .. etc

the separate orgasm bars rising quick is due to a feature in SLS to prevent scenes taking forever it forces arousal increase to the agressor in forced scenes .. it should be somewhere in the settings

as far as i remember SLS supports separate orgasm

[Azzzqww]

5 hours ago, gamerpk2 said:

the pop up depends on several factors which i dont remember all of them ATM . sometimes u dont have a choice

things like if its forced ? is ur character addicted ? .. etc

the separate orgasm bars rising quick is due to a feature in SLS to prevent scenes taking forever it forces arousal increase to the agressor in forced scenes .. it should be somewhere in the settings

as far as i remember SLS supports separate orgasm

Thanks for your response. My character isn't addicted yet (first relation) and it's forced, but even if i don't have the pop-up it's not considered as swallowed

[gamerpk2]

37 minutes ago, Azzzqww said:

Thanks for your response. My character isn't addicted yet (first relation) and it's forced, but even if i don't have the pop-up it's not considered as swallowed

if forced it should give u a message saying that u were forced to swallow .

if not then im not sure

[Rebecca.Dova]

On 6/27/2025 at 12:17 PM, topgunsss said:

just wondering how would i get Sexlab Survival to work with Ostim Standalone?

 

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It's the hope I've had for over a year, one day I'll be able to use it with Ostim.

[DrunkenCow]

Looking at that json and the corresponding xedited plugins, I have got to wonder why Keyword Item Distributor wasn't used as soon as it was available. 

 

Keyword = formID~esp(OR)keywordEditorID|type|strings,formIDs(OR)editorIDs|traits|chance

 

and skipping the xEdits is easier on the end user and modder alike.

[Herowynne]

1 hour ago, DrunkenCow said:

why Keyword Item Distributor wasn't used as soon as it was available

SL Survival is a Skyrim LE mod that was simply ported to SE, and KID is not available for LE.

 

Many folks, myself included, have created SPID and KID files for SL Survival, so that is possible and useful.

 

The truth is that @Monoman1 was ahead of his time in terms of using keywords and JSON configuration files.

 

 

Edited July 4, 2025 by Herowynne

[cvonb]

Especially given this isn't going ot be updated anymore, any chance at the source being posted? I'd like to fix some of the common issues I hit

[Chlodwig]

On 7/4/2025 at 7:08 PM, Herowynne said:

SL Survival is a Skyrim LE mod that was simply ported to SE, and KID is not available for LE.

 

Many folks, myself included, have created SPID and KID files for SL Survival, so that is possible and useful.

 

The truth is that @Monoman1 was ahead of his time in terms of using keywords and JSON configuration files.

 

 

Is there somewhere a tutorial for creating KID or SPID files to add Keywords to clothes?
I have several skimpy armor sets that I would like to have identified as bikini armor by sl-survival.

 

By the way does the "_SLS_BikiniArmor" Keyword be added to every armor part of a set or only to the one in Slot 32?

Edited July 8, 2025 by Chlodwig

[Fraying9981]

10 minutes ago, Chlodwig said:

Is there somewhere a tutorial for creating KID or SPID files to add Keywords to clothes?
I have several skimpy armor sets that I would like to have identified as bikinia armor by sl-survival.

 

Quick Armor Rebalance: do it directly in game with a super friendly interface.

 

 

[safado]

14 hours ago, Chlodwig said:

Is there somewhere a tutorial for creating KID or SPID files to add Keywords to clothes?
I have several skimpy armor sets that I would like to have identified as bikini armor by sl-survival.

 

By the way does the "_SLS_BikiniArmor" Keyword be added to every armor part of a set or only to the one in Slot 32?

 

Yes, @Fraying9981, suggestion of using QAR make it painless. If you want to add Skyrim Vanilla assets like keywords or armors, you need to enable it in QAR config files. You can also use it to add SLAX-Baka, A.N.D, or SOS\TNG revealing keywords, if you use those mods.  

For mods the default is good.  By default, QAR will add the imported keywords by itself at load time, but it can also be used to export KID or SkyPatcher config files.  

 

For SLS Bikini armor detection, all equipped assets need the _SLS_Bikiniarmor keywords. I think it will ignore any assets with SexlabNoStrip keyword. That means most DD assets will be ignored for the curse too.  

It will also measure the height of the boot\shoes, using RaceMenu High Heels. You can disable the heel detection in the SLS Bikini License MCM.

I use a mod like Extra Pocket to hide in the vagina the bikini license, lockpicks, keys, and the like. When the bikini license is not in the inventory, the curse is disabled in case you need to use clothes or non-tagged assets.  

 

Make sure you are using SLS SE 0.685.  Older versions have a CTD because of the enforcer NPC. 

 

Edited July 8, 2025 by safado

[Fraying9981]

 started a new game with Sexlab P+.

Everything seems OK except my PC is not prompted to swallow on oral, and cum addiction doesn't seem to be working.

Anybody has an idea of how to fix?

 

Here is the papyrus log extract.

 

Spoiler

On load:

[07/15/2025 - 05:38:24PM] Cannot open store for class "_csn_cumaddict", missing file?

...

[07/15/2025 - 05:40:01PM] Error: Property StashTrack on script _SLS_StashAddException attached to alias playerAlias on quest _SLS_StashAddExceptionQuest (320AAE2B) cannot be bound because alias playerREF on quest _SLS_StashTrack (32006894) is not the right type

[07/15/2025 - 05:40:01PM] Error: Property CumSwallow on script _sls_cumdesperateeffects attached to alias playerAlias on quest _SLS_CumDesperationEffectsQuest (320C4703) cannot be bound because alias playerAlias on quest _SLS_CumSwallowQuest (3203DAB2) is not the right type

 

...

[07/15/2025 - 05:50:40PM] Error: Cannot call GetRace() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

    [_SLS_CumAddictQuest (32097F8F)]._sls_cumaddict.OrgasmEvent() - "_SLS_CumAddict.psc" Line 643

    [_SLS_CumAddictQuest (32097F8F)]._sls_cumaddict.OnOrgasmStart() - "_SLS_CumAddict.psc" Line 608

 

 

 

[Dawnminated]

Kinda new to this so anyhelp would be appreciated. On starting a new save I get an error saying that I do not have the latest papyrusutil installed. I double checked and I do have the latest 1170 papyrusutil installed, any ideas?

Edit for anyone else who needs the solution: It appears that Simply Knock (or some other mod), has an outdated papyrusutil included, so make sure your up-to-date installation is loaded over it, and overwriting the old one with the new one.

Edited July 20, 2025 by Dawnminated
Solved issue

[brololo]

On 8/13/2023 at 1:42 PM, s1mpleeee said:

Solution for those who have the same problem as me.
Uninstalling SexLab Seperate Orgasm, yes, when I remove this mod and enter the game again, the cum swallowing system works very well for me!

Thanks anyway

i remember being able to use both fine but recently not so much like the mod really needed an option so you could add a tag like blowjob or oral and then you would get the prompt i will try with uninstalling the mod

[Dumuzi]

6 minutes ago, brololo said:

i remember being able to use both fine but recently not so much like the mod really needed an option so you could add a tag like blowjob or oral and then you would get the prompt i will try with uninstalling the mod

 

I remember having this problem months ago. I believe the solution to getting them to work together is SLSO Hakkey's Tweaks 

 which is still in my load order. If that's not it I know there is some patch to get them both working as they are both working for me now. My memory just sucks to remember exactly how I did it, but that tweak seems the likely one.