Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[ck2modfan]

Se version. Ask for day off. Favor is not being changed/reduced.

 

Is there a way to adjust favor via console command? Or I can keep taking days off ? 

[Iroha]

1 hour ago, ck2modfan said:

Se version. Ask for day off. Favor is not being changed/reduced.

 

Is there a way to adjust favor via console command? Or I can keep taking days off ? 

In my case, favor decreased by required amount (was 8.2 then asked for day off).

If you need console command: set pchsfathervoluntaryserverep to DESIREDNuMBER

maybe I misspeled global value. you can get correct variable name by "help  pchsfather 3" command

P.S. I have SLS and wartimes and many other content and framework mods and I don't have problem of headtracking (switched off and isn't turns on).

Edited November 10, 2021 by Iroha

[ck2modfan]

50 minutes ago, Iroha said:

In my case, favor decreased by required amount (was 8.2 then asked for day off).

If you need console command: set pchsfathervoluntaryserverep to DESIREDNuMBER

maybe I misspeled global value. you can get correct variable name by "help  pchsfather 3" command

P.S. I have SLS and wartimes and many other content and framework mods and I don't have problem of headtracking (switched off and isn't turns on).

Thanks! I am using 8.7. Not sure if this happened earlier but first time noticing.

[Iroha]

If someone like me hates clipping and uses low tongues for SLS, I resized these (reduced by ~10%) for the better look

comparisson in spoiler

Spoiler

before:

 

after:

 

 

 

Sexlab Survival tweaked low tongues resized.rar

 

[Iroha]

15 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

I get that every so often. I created a little bat script that uses the following console command:

player.setanimgraphvar isnpc 0

 

This seems to reset head position.

I noticed that SLS have "look at" feature, and "stop look at". "Look at" works. "Stop look at" is not.

"Clear look at" in debug menu do nothing also.

"set isNPC" to 0 in debug menu disables headtracking.

Edited November 11, 2021 by Iroha

[stella78951]

My game runs perfectly fine until I get to a part where player is in the bedroom and there’s a text box that talks about player hearing a strange noise, and the game crashes as soon as it gets there no matter what. I am wondering if it’s my load order or if I am lacking a download?

[Monoman1]

39 minutes ago, stella78951 said:

My game runs perfectly fine until I get to a part where player is in the bedroom and there’s a text box that talks about player hearing a strange noise, and the game crashes as soon as it gets there no matter what. I am wondering if it’s my load order or if I am lacking a download?

Probably something wrong with your installation of amp tweak.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3378897

[Iroha]

Monoman1, I really like your ahegao feature in SLS but can't get it to work correctly.

Problem 1: seems that ahegao feature of SLS fights with Sexlab and SexlabUtilityPlus. SexLabUtilityPlus always wins ofc, and overrides ahegao on timer.

Problem 2: tongues does not retracts during animation (and for me, even if it retracts - it still renders, until I open-close inventory menu)  if mouth gets closed. So it just clips throught the face. As I see, right now SLU+ controls expressions even if they are disabled in MCM (and Osmel mentions that "apply expressions" have to be always enabled right now).

 

Are you familiar with these problems, or they are just on my side?

 

About mod versions:

I'm running SLS 0.674, SLU+ v20211020, SLSO 1.7.3

 

[Cybersky]

Hey guys, first hats off to Pchs for creation and Monoman for all the Fixes and Tweaks!

I don't know who came up with the idea to suggest the day off but i was about to suggest, so thank you very much!

 

I found this mod for the Legendary version instead of (SE)Tidy up:

 

(LE) Clean Up:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75918?tab=description

 

Also, for those who are going crazy with Aldo's bark, I suggest another one, I'm using both together:

 

(SE) Quiet Dog:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6066?tab=description

(I tested this on LE edition and had no problems)

 

(LE) Quieter and Silent Dog Idle:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1579

 

A quick suggestion, it would be nice if Father locked the door during the curfew hours, forcing you to "buy" his permissions to go out at night. By the way father should only provide the curfew, bikini and whore license (doesn't make much sense for him to give you licenses that can be used against him as magic and weapons right?)

 

Father can tell you something about licenses, like: I can provide the only licenses you deserve (clearly suggesting prostitution).

 

Another thing, if you let the mother "die" in the healing house for lack of payment, father will use it against you, forcing you to pay "the 500 gold Jar fees" per week (as he mentioned at the beginning). When you ask about the mother, he might say something like: Now that you've failed your mother you will be responsible for the fees if you want to stay in the house.

 

Then comes the "big deal":

 

Father tells you that under the current laws of war, only houses with pregnant women or children are being tax exempt. (This justifies the father's desire to turn you into a breeding pig) he doesn't care about having children without a reason, he's selfish and greedy. So, you can try to keep paying the fees or give up and accept the offer. Obviously he's going to keep trying breeding you with the existing mechanics anyway.

 

That's it! ?

 

 

[ck2modfan]

For exchanging Favor for licenses, perhaps it should add a certain amount of time? 2 hours? Also, maybe shouldn't be able to wake up father to get license. Only allowed during task hours? Worse (I mean better) only during business hours.

[zinujeka]

Hi!

In the new playthrough, the father does not change PC clothes (). I changed the condition of nudity in MСM (normal, progression, 100 obedience, never) but without result.
Got a cheat to go from Stage 0 to Stage 1 (Tavern Clothes)?

Or is there another solution?

Edited November 12, 2021 by zinujeka

[jperrins66]

2 hours ago, zinujeka said:

Hi!

In the new playthrough, the father does not change PC clothes (). I changed the condition of nudity in MСM (normal, progression, 100 obedience, never) but without result.
Got a cheat to go from Stage 0 to Stage 1 (Tavern Clothes)?

Or is there another solution?

Same for me

[Monoman1]

21 hours ago, Cybersky said:

By the way father should only provide the curfew, bikini and whore license (doesn't make much sense for him to give you licenses that can be used against him as magic and weapons right?)

It might be more immersive from his point of view but from a gameplay point of view weapons are everywhere anyway. A lack of a weapon licence is not going to stop the PC finding a warhammer on a downed bandit and smashing father's head in while he's sleeping. Part of Father's power over the PC is his usefulness - providing licences/removing devices etc. Take away that usefulness and he loses some of his power. 

12 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

For exchanging Favor for licenses, perhaps it should add a certain amount of time? 2 hours? Also, maybe shouldn't be able to wake up father to get license. Only allowed during task hours? Worse (I mean better) only during business hours.

Would fit and have been meaning to add it. 

3 hours ago, zinujeka said:

Hi!

In the new playthrough, the father does not change PC clothes (). I changed the condition of nudity in MСM (normal, progression, 100 obedience, never) but without result.
Got a cheat to go from Stage 0 to Stage 1 (Tavern Clothes)?

Or is there another solution?

Seems to work ok on a new playthrough. 

There are very few conditions attached to the initial request to wear something anyway. 

pchsRequiredOutfitLevel == -1 (which is it's initial value anyway)

And favour >= 5

 

Edited November 12, 2021 by Monoman1

[Monoman1]

On 11/11/2021 at 1:47 PM, Iroha said:

I really like your ahegao feature in SLS but can't get it to work correctly.

Difficult to diagnose anything to do with expressions. It's the wild west. Any mod can do anything at any point. There's no order or control. I'll take a look at it when I finish WT and get back to SLS. 

 

Part of the ahegao expression after sex is brute forcing the expression via continuous updates for a few seconds which is effective but really inefficient. Doing that during sex would be unwise I think as there's just too much going on. 

 

tldr: better expression control and priority systems are needed. There was an extension of mfg console here somewhere that went some of the way but still lacked something. 

Edited November 12, 2021 by Monoman1

[Iroha]

30 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Difficult to diagnose anything to do with expressions. It's the wild west. Any mod can do anything at any point. There's no order or control. I'll take a look at it when I finish WT and get back to SLS. 

 

Part of the ahegao expression after sex is brute forcing the expression via continuous updates for a few seconds which is effective but really inefficient. Doing that during sex would be unwise I think as there's just too much going on. 

 

tldr: better expression control and priority systems are needed. There was an extension of mfg console here somewhere that went some of the way but still lacked something. 

Actually, got it fixed (ten mins ago) by altering SLU script a little. Posted details in Osmels SLU support thread.

Edited November 12, 2021 by Iroha

[Hpl55]

Wanted to suggest making father and mother unique npcs not respawns (at least i think thier ID says so) to customize them more. I think customizimg generics often leads to broken stuff.

[Monoman1]

Just now, Hpl55 said:

Wanted to suggest making father and mother unique npcs not respawns (at least i think thier ID says so) to customize them more. I think customizimg generics often leads to broken stuff.

They are unique.

[Hpl55]

11 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

They are unique.

Ok, thought id 8000000 means generic and that it might be why my mother npc has face discoloration on a new game.

[Iroha]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Difficult to diagnose anything to do with expressions. It's the wild west. Any mod can do anything at any point. There's no order or control.

tldr: better expression control and priority systems are needed. There was an extension of mfg console here somewhere that went some of the way but still lacked something. 

Yeah, just as is. As for framework, I think its not optimal to do it like mod with mcm wrapper-scripts, event and so on (slow in action and too much work to realise simple feature), the better will be dll-wrapper for mfgconsole, or even better, realisation of queques, priorities, logging, and storages in mfgcolsole.dll, but seems its devs are satisfied with everything.

Pity, that bethesda are not realising API to access such tasty functions like setting expressions directly with games:)

Edited November 12, 2021 by Iroha

[zinujeka]

Help please, I wanted to deal with my Wartimes. I thought to do it myself, but I can't.
I am using the following versions of the required:
Wartimes Tweak v8.7 (31-Oct-2021)
Amputator Framework Tweaked v1.6 (07-May-2021)
yps-ImmersiveFashion (6.2.1) - yps-Sound & TexturePack20200328 - yps-ImmersiveFashion Tweak BETA v2.4 (29-Oct-2021)
display-model-v206
Sexlab Survival 0.674 BETA (27-Oct-2021)

 

also

Spoiler

Hard requirements

Skyrim

SexLab 1.62

ZazAnimationPack 8+

Alternate Start - Live Another Life

Amputator Framework 

Sanguine Debauchery Enhanced (SDPlus20210731)

Sanguine’s Debauchery Cages (d2021.10.2)

Simple Slavery Plus Plus 

I'll Take The Display Model 

 

Soft requirements

SkyUI by schlangster

Devious Devices Expansion 

Beeing Female 

 

I ran into the following problems (I read that some should already be fixed, but not sure):

1. Father at the party takes away food and drinks for guests, due to "diet" (was this fixed in v8.7?) I successfully quickly give just food and drinks to guests close with a barrel, but with nord mead in ass I  can't make it - father faster ?

 

2. Ffather gives conflicting tasks.
For example: Delivery of groceries and immediately it throws into the basement. It doesn't look logical (although maybe he's doing it to scoff :)).
For example: Father says to get up for examination and at this time Aldo is suitable for sex (or vice versa, a sex scene with Aldo begins and father requires examination).

One time Father got angry and kicked PC out of the house during a party. A day later, when PC returned, the guests did not leave. Show must go on ?!
Etc.
Perhaps these are only problems of my game (not the most successful combination of mods). Or can you check for priorities of tasks (if it's not very difficult)?

 

3. When the father says PC: learns from mother, watching their sex - everything is OK, but when he demands self-satisfaction at the same time I can not find this function. In the menu for key "Y" it is not. Maybe I haven't installed some mod?

 

4. There is a problem of interaction with the Dwarven milking machine (MME). It doesn't work for me. I placed ordinary milking machine (like in the city) next to it . Much earlier I had a hard time getting my MME to work (Milk-Mod-Economy-Assets-LE-2019-06-04 / Milk-Mod-Economy-Scripts-20210209 / Milk Addict v0.53 (25-Mar-2019)), maybe this is just my problem, but it may be better to use standard milking machines)? (although Dwarven machine looks more interesting)

 

5. I don't see piercings or earrings. The mirror says that they are, but they are not displayed. How to fix it? Possible mod conflict (possibly Apropos?)

 

In conclusion, I want to thank the author of the mod and who helped him - great job!

 

PS: And such a moment for mod compatibility.
I have SexLab Approach Redux 2.02 installed.
After Father made PC walk at home naked, this mod does not work very well.
If rape by a dog is appropriate, then father's dialogues (he apologizes "sorry ma'am", gives the clothes) do not fit into the plot. Is it possible to turn Approach off in house? I think Approach  is very interesting and in demand.

Edited November 13, 2021 by zinujeka

[Monoman1]

45 minutes ago, zinujeka said:

also

These are nowhere near the soft/hard reqs

46 minutes ago, zinujeka said:

Ffather gives conflicting tasks

Yea. That can happen. You've just got to manage it. 

1 hour ago, zinujeka said:

. When the father says PC: learns from mother, watching their sex - everything is OK, but when he demands self-satisfaction at the same time I can not find this function. In the menu for key "Y" it is not. Maybe I haven't installed some mod?

Sure there's a message explaining. Sls - tease myself

1 hour ago, zinujeka said:

There is a problem of interaction with the Dwarven milking machine (MME). It doesn't work for me. I placed ordinary milking machine (like in the city) next to it . Much earlier I had a hard time getting my MME to work (Milk-Mod-Economy-Assets-LE-2019-06-04 / Milk-Mod-Economy-Scripts-20210209 / Milk Addict v0.53 (25-Mar-2019)), maybe this is just my problem, but it may be better to use standard milking machines)? (although Dwarven machine looks more interesting)

There's an optional add on when you install MME that you need. 

1 hour ago, zinujeka said:

don't see piercings or earrings. The mirror says that they are, but they are not displayed. How to fix it? Possible mod conflict (possibly Apropos?)

Slavetats

Race menu

NiOverride.ini

Face overlays enabled

Overlay slot availability

 

 

[safado]

1 hour ago, zinujeka said:

Help please, I wanted to deal with my Wartimes. I thought to do it myself, but I can't.
I am using the following versions of the required:
Wartimes Tweak v8.7 (31-Oct-2021)
Amputator Framework Tweaked v1.6 (07-May-2021)
yps-ImmersiveFashion (6.2.1) - yps-Sound & TexturePack20200328 - yps-ImmersiveFashion Tweak BETA v2.4 (29-Oct-2021)
display-model-v206
Sexlab Survival 0.674 BETA (27-Oct-2021)

 

also

  Reveal hidden contents

Hard requirements

Skyrim

SexLab 1.62

ZazAnimationPack 8+

Alternate Start - Live Another Life

Amputator Framework 

Sanguine Debauchery Enhanced (SDPlus20210731)

Sanguine’s Debauchery Cages (d2021.10.2)

Simple Slavery Plus Plus 

I'll Take The Display Model 

 

Soft requirements

SkyUI by schlangster

Devious Devices Expansion 

Beeing Female 

 

I ran into the following problems (I read that some should already be fixed, but not sure):

1. Father at the party takes away food and drinks for guests, due to "diet" (was this fixed in v8.7?) I successfully quickly give just food and drinks to guests close with a barrel, but with nord mead in ass I  can't make it - father faster ?

 

2. Ffather gives conflicting tasks.
For example: Delivery of groceries and immediately it throws into the basement. It doesn't look logical (although maybe he's doing it to scoff :)).
For example: Father says to get up for examination and at this time Aldo is suitable for sex (or vice versa, a sex scene with Aldo begins and father requires examination).

One time Father got angry and kicked PC out of the house during a party. A day later, when PC returned, the guests did not leave. Show must go on ?!
Etc.
Perhaps these are only problems of my game (not the most successful combination of mods). Or can you check for priorities of tasks (if it's not very difficult)?

 

3. When the father says PC: learns from mother, watching their sex - everything is OK, but when he demands self-satisfaction at the same time I can not find this function. In the menu for key "Y" it is not. Maybe I haven't installed some mod?

 

4. There is a problem of interaction with the Dwarven milking machine (MME). It doesn't work for me. I placed ordinary milking machine (like in the city) next to it . Much earlier I had a hard time getting my MME to work (Milk-Mod-Economy-Assets-LE-2019-06-04 / Milk-Mod-Economy-Scripts-20210209 / Milk Addict v0.53 (25-Mar-2019)), maybe this is just my problem, but it may be better to use standard milking machines)? (although Dwarven machine looks more interesting)

 

5. I don't see piercings or earrings. The mirror says that they are, but they are not displayed. How to fix it? Possible mod conflict (possibly Apropos?)

 

In conclusion, I want to thank the author of the mod and who helped him - great job!

 

 

1, 2

Do you also have the voice mod for Wartime called "(Gen 2.0) Wartimes Tweak v5.6 EVP"?

It is for old Wartimes 5.6 and the plugin breaks the changes to the NPC "father" programming in newer Wartimes.  Remove the plugin of that mod and try to reset going out of the house and back. Do not know if that works with already instanced NPC, if not try console "resurrect" on Father NPC or Start new game.  Thats the only mod I know will break Wartimes. 

 

3 Satisfaction is dialogue option "Can I help you relieve some... tension?". 

   Y key, needs UIExtensions mod for special wheel menu.  

 

4 MME is sensitive to overstressed running papyrus system.  Any milker from MME that give you MME's milk bottle will work.  The difference between the MME milker furniture added to the city and the one from Wartimes the type.  Wartimes uses the "Bound" version.  It will not let you out until milk "reserves" reach 0 and may force Lactacid ingestion, because of that it will take a while to stop milking and is better to use the city version.  

 

If you are using the modified milker from MME "Milkpump Collision Fix", the bound milkpump furniture is only selectable around the sides.  Move the "crosshair" cursor over it until you see instruction to use. 

 

5 I also do not see it but is recognized as pierced/soldered by YPS.  Is no big deal, I think is an issue with "Tattoo" textures but have not look into it yet.  I use SkyrimSE. 

 

 

[zinujeka]

Thank you very much

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

These are nowhere near the soft/hard reqs

But I read these requirements here:

I've included this list to make sure I have the latest versions. What is wrong with it?

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, safado said:

3 Satisfaction is dialogue option "Can I help you relieve some... tension?". 

   Y key, needs UIExtensions mod for special wheel menu.  

 

Yes, I have a UIExtensions mod. But in the wheel there is no choice to "tease myself." I can change my position, clean the room, have a menu of plug, etc. To "tease myself" - no.

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Sure there's a message explaining. Sls - tease myself

O! I didn't know SLS has its own menu wheel (key G default)! Many thanks!

I have not yet found in it a "tease myself" but I will figure it out now!!?

PS: Yes! I've found!

 

1 hour ago, safado said:

4 MME is sensitive to overstressed running papyrus system.  Any milker from MME that give you MME's milk bottle will work.  The difference between the MME milker furniture added to the city and the one from Wartimes the type.  Wartimes uses the "Bound" version.  It will not let you out until milk "reserves" reach 0 and may force Lactacid ingestion, because of that it will take a while to stop milking and is better to use the city version.  

 

If you are using the modified milker from MME "Milkpump Collision Fix", the bound milkpump furniture is only selectable around the sides.  Move the "crosshair" cursor over it until you see instruction to use. 

I use Milk Pump Selection: "All inclusive 5* milking barns by EinarrTheRed, not bound in towns, bound in orc strongholds, orc milk caves"

The PC goes into Dwemer milk pump. But no milking takes place. I checked that there is animation in the list, but the milking process does not start. ?

I lost hope of making it work for me ... Only normal milk pumps and camp milk pumps (installed) are running. The milk harness works, but it does not give milk.?

Where can I find Milk Pump Collision Fix? 

 

Possible conflicts are mentioned here (But this is not a wartime topic):

Might conflict with other mods that:

•  
• -add scripts to Dwemer devices from ZaZ Animation Pack (if you installed ZaZ patch).

Edited November 13, 2021 by zinujeka

[Monoman1]

9 minutes ago, zinujeka said:

What is wrong with it?

They've changed a lot. There's a list in the installer that's more accurate. 

[zinujeka]

50 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

They've changed a lot. There's a list in the installer that's more accurate. 

This is exactly what I wanted when I asked for help. I thought my problems were due to incomplete installation of required mods.
How can I see this list? (Forgive my stupidity).