Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[kapibar]

My PC was finally kicked out of the house for the first time, after becoming the slave wife. More than 2 weeks have passed and I'm still not allowed to come back. Was there any change that might've caused an issue @Monoman1
 

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, kapibar said:

My PC was finally kicked out of the house for the first time, after becoming the slave wife. More than 2 weeks have passed and I'm still not allowed to come back. Was there any change that might've caused an issue @Monoman1
 

Don't remember anything.

'sqv   pchsTossOutQuest'

please.

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Don't remember anything.

'sqv   pchsTossOutQuest'

please.

Sure.
 

Enabled: yes
State: running
Cur. stage: 0
Priority: 100

[my boii]

For some reason, you cant get this guy to orgasm. His meter gets filled, and Ive tried stamina potions. There is a bottom blue bar that is filled from the start tho, if that makes sense. What am I missing? Im getting the -X favour message every time.

[safado]

3 hours ago, my boii said:

For some reason, you cant get this guy to orgasm. His meter gets filled, and Ive tried stamina potions. There is a bottom blue bar that is filled from the start tho, if that makes sense. What am I missing? Im getting the -X favour message every time.

 

Your version of SLSO is likely not compatible with your version Sexlab or installed a mod that overwrite and break sexlab and SLSO.  Also, the SLSO's enjoyment settings may need tunning.

 

I have installed and running with no apparent issues in Skyrim SE:

1. SexLabFrameworkSE_v163_BETA9.zip   for Skyrim SE.
2. SexLab-Separate-Orgasm-SE-1.6.8 SL1.63b9.7z    Overwrite Sexlab beta9 and other mods not Sexlab Utility Plus from OsmelMC or SLAX SE.  Overwrite SLAv28 or v29 is ok but not SLAX. Never SLAX. 
3. Optional but it has nice features. SexLab Utility Plus v20210910.7z   Overwrite Sexlab Beta9 and SLSO 1.6.8-SL1.63b9 and any other mod that tries to overwrite Sexlab.
4. Do not let Diary of Mine, Radiant Prostitution Gigolo, and any other overwrite Sexlab Utility Plus.  

Check SLSO MCM settings about enjoyment gains.   Set it over 100 for testing.   

 

If you have older Sexlab 1.63B8, make sure SLSO is the correct version for that. 

 

Sexlab SE

Spoiler

 

 

SLSO

Spoiler

 

 

OsmelMC stuff

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by safado

[safado]

16 hours ago, Silvain said:

It was all vanilla dialogue I think. And of course none of it was stolen.

 

Is there a way to check ingame which items are owned by whom? 

 

@Silvain

It happened to me; I suspect Slaverun or TroubleOftheHeroine . Do you also have any of those installed? Maybe the changes are in the original Skyrim scripts overwritten but I do not know which one.  It also removes all the money.

 

@Silvain

Do you have Milk Mod Economy and Fertility Mode/BeingFemale? 

If yes:

• When the PC is detected are Father breeder/pregnant and eventually gets forced to get Milked and provide milk quota: The dialogue to "gift" the milk to "Father" opens and list the milk items but can't select anything to give.   A similar menu for Cumslut has no issues.  Because I upgraded a couple of mods that changed a lot, and may need restart, I have not posted anything yet about it until confirmed in new run.   

 

[Monoman1]

9 hours ago, my boii said:

For some reason, you cant get this guy to orgasm. His meter gets filled, and Ive tried stamina potions. There is a bottom blue bar that is filled from the start tho, if that makes sense. What am I missing? Im getting the -X favour message every time.

'Use separate orgasms' (SL) not enabled maybe or try disabling 'male orgasm conditions' (SLSO). 

12 hours ago, kapibar said:

Sure.
 

Enabled: yes
State: running
Cur. stage: 0
Priority: 100

Hmm. Ok so the quest is still running which is good. The question is, was it stopped and started again without scheduling an update for some reason. 

 

Can you remember if the dialogue was: 
"Useless bitch! I warned you not to fail me."

"It's high time you learned a valuable life lesson." 

[The last thing I remember is a sharp pain in my head and the ground rushing up to meet me]

 

Or was it something else. Above is the temporary toss out dialogue. This is the permanent toss out dialogue:

"So, sweetheart, it's come to this at last."

"Every time you have to suck a stranger's dick for some scraps of food, you'll remember just how good you had it here and how you messed it all up."

"Goodbye forever, my worthless daughter. [He attacks me viciously, until I lie barely conscious on the floor.]"

 

If you have a good 'wait' mod that allows waiting more than 24 hours you can try 

1. Save

2. Go third person.

3. 'tfc' in console

4. wait 2 weeks. 

 

If not I might be able to build a force update into the debug menu for now until I figure it out. 

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Can you remember if the dialogue was: 

"Useless bitch! I warned you not to fail me."

I'm almost certain I had this dialogue. It's not my first time being kicked out, so I know the drill (more or less), but it's the first time since the function was introduced (there were few update in the meantime). Last time it went smoothly, I had an info that I can return home. Now, more than two weeks have passed and nothing, doors are locked.

Edited September 13, 2021 by kapibar

[MilanJa]

11 hours ago, my boii said:

For some reason, you cant get this guy to orgasm. His meter gets filled, and Ive tried stamina potions. There is a bottom blue bar that is filled from the start tho, if that makes sense. What am I missing? Im getting the -X favour message every time.

I have same problem, I tryed it with/without SL utility, slexlab 163b9 and github ver, slso 1.6.8 and 1.6.7. slso bars goes down, i have cumshot installed so his orgasm is visible and it always fail to get him off.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

I'm almost certain I had this dialogue. It's not my first time being kicked out, so I know the drill (more or less), but it's the first time since the function was introduced (there were few update in the meantime). Last time it went smoothly, I had an info that I can return home. Now, more than two weeks have passed and nothing, doors are locked.

If you're kicked out a second time its permanent. Unless you use the apology that costs 50 favour. I'm still not clear on if its your first time, second time or second time after using the 50 favour apology. 

1 hour ago, MilanJa said:

I have same problem, I tryed it with/without SL utility, slexlab 163b9 and github ver, slso 1.6.8 and 1.6.7. slso bars goes down, i have cumshot installed so his orgasm is visible and it always fail to get him off.

Any mods interfering with slso scripts?

[kapibar]

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

If you're kicked out a second time its permanent. Unless you use the apology that costs 50 favour. I'm still not clear on if its your first time, second time or second time after using the 50 favour apology.

First time in this playthrough. I was kicked in an earlier version of WT. Mod list is basically the same, so I don't think there's any conflict on my end.

[my boii]

Thank you both for the replies. I'll test in a bit with the utilities patch safado linked. I tried modifying his enjoyment to 200, and I checked that I've got both SLSO and sexlab up to date, while also unchecking the male orgasm conditions, and I still have this problem. 

 

Just to be sure I got this right, the "father" bar that is in the red needs to be filled, right? The blue bar at the bottom, I searched and it's for edging, so it doesn't have anything to do with my problem. The father bar can be filled even when the percentage beside it is not 100% or more. So the only thing left is to get the father bar to reach 100%? (Altho not sure how I can do that) I'm sure I had that percentage exceeding last time I tried yesterday though, and I still got the favor loss.

 

I also get the message that father came inside or whatever when the animations end.

 

 

 

Edit:

 

I checked this thread again and from what I've gathered, you need his enjoyment to be on high percentage, unless you turn off male conditions.

 

Well, I got father on 200 enjoyment (even with the conditions off), and the same problem persists. Could I change the trigger of gaining/losing favor on this job somehow, and if so, how? Thanks

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by my boii

[shiagwen]

Already short after the beginning i dont progress. doing 30 gold tasts doesnt seem to make sense for the 10000 gold i need for the cure. seeling pc gord to simple slavery auction, bought for 10k, but noone picks her up. dialogues to father only one dialoge with i...i...crying at the end.  all others just tasks or food and ale.

looks like  i have to give it up so fast.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

First time in this playthrough. I was kicked in an earlier version of WT. Mod list is basically the same, so I don't think there's any conflict on my end.

pchsWtUiKey.pex

Try this script please. Find new option under debug. Obviously, not happy not knowing the source of the issue.

[shiagwen]

not good. now i cheated the gold forthe cure and met ma outside the hause, hearing the story about father. now i shall go to bejen, but no arrow on map, map moves to rifton....however, i dont like mods who do not progress without console. another wasted day of my life !

[Monoman1]

4 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

Already short after the beginning i dont progress. doing 30 gold tasts doesnt seem to make sense for the 10000 gold i need for the cure. seeling pc gord to simple slavery auction, bought for 10k, but noone picks her up. dialogues to father only one dialoge with i...i...crying at the end.  all others just tasks or food and ale.

looks like  i have to give it up so fast.

You've unbalanced your game yourself. The file you posted in SLS basically disallows selling anything (which is nuts IMO).... This mod was not made to account for that. It's up to you to balance your own game with the modifications you make and the mods you install. You could just reduce the gold required from 10k to 1k or whatever. Use the options.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, my boii said:

I checked this thread again and from what I've gathered, you need his enjoyment to be on high percentage, unless you turn off male conditions.

 

Well, I got father on 200 enjoyment (even with the conditions off), and the same problem persists. Could I change the trigger of gaining/losing favor on this job somehow, and if so, how? Thanks

No you don't need high enjoyment. You just need his bar to fill and then it should drop back down again (orgasm). If that isn't happening then this is the wrong thread to be asking questions. You need to ask in the SLSO thread. 

[shiagwen]

5 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

You've unbalanced your game yourself. The file you posted in SLS basically disallows selling anything (which is nuts IMO).... This mod was not made to account for that. It's up to you to balance your own game with the modifications you make and the mods you install. You could just reduce the gold required from 10k to 1k or whatever. Use the options.

i dont have this mod installed this time. i thought the money should come from the mod itself, not switchiong to normal gameplay. there is no talk about an adventuring dungeonhero, and her clothes do not look like that. however, it will turn out same way : sek oncle bejen. and i dont look up for every npc in skyrim to find him, sorry guys,m that is not the way things work.

deinstall to save lifetime.

[shiagwen]

26 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

You've unbalanced your game yourself. The file you posted in SLS basically disallows selling anything (which is nuts IMO).... This mod was not made to account for that. It's up to you to balance your own game with the modifications you make and the mods you install. You could just reduce the gold required from 10k to 1k or whatever. Use the options.

i tell you what NUTS is : Nuts is to prostitute when you can craft some juwelry five times faster with five times more money, trhat is nuts. But only for people who can think a bit and who care for what they are doing.

[kapibar]

47 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

pchsWtUiKey.pex 28.66 kB · 1 download

Try this script please. Find new option under debug. Obviously, not happy not knowing the source of the issue.

According to the debug:

 

Main script is not running.

[Silvain]

10 hours ago, safado said:

 

@Silvain

It happened to me; I suspect Slaverun or TroubleOftheHeroine . Do you also have any of those installed? Maybe the changes are in the original Skyrim scripts overwritten but I do not know which one.  It also removes all the money.

 

@Silvain

Do you have Milk Mod Economy and Fertility Mode/BeingFemale? 

If yes:

• When the PC is detected are Father breeder/pregnant and eventually gets forced to get Milked and provide milk quota: The dialogue to "gift" the milk to "Father" opens and list the milk items but can't select anything to give.   A similar menu for Cumslut has no issues.  Because I upgraded a couple of mods that changed a lot, and may need restart, I have not posted anything yet about it until confirmed in new run.   

 

 

I do have TroubleOfTheHeroine. No Slaverun. So yeah maybe that did something. Thanks for the headsup.

 

Milk Economy + Fertility Mode (with Fixes from the Nexus). For me it is (or was - I haven't gotten to that point in my new playthrough just yet) the other way around. Gifting milk always works flawlessly but cum only works the first time.

But - as I've said - I don't know if that also persists in the new version. I'm not thjat far yet.

[my boii]

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

'Use separate orgasms' (SL) not enabled maybe or try disabling 'male orgasm conditions' (SLSO). 

 

Yea, seems that was my problem. Didn't find the 'Use separate orgasms' in the SLSO mod, then I tried doing some other fixes and forgot about it. Didnt realize SL stood for SexLab, oops. That was the only thing I needed to do. Thanks again.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

According to the debug:

 

Main script is not running.

Hmm. It would seem you've been tossed out permanently then. 

 

Do 'sqv pchsWartimes' please to confirm it's stopped. 

 

Funny though that pchsTossOut is still running. When thrown out permanently it should shut itself down lastly. 

Also let me know what 'help pchsTossOutWarning' is set to. 

 

I don't know that I can fix WT from whatever state it's in in your save but you can try

StartQuest  pchsWartimes

and do the debug thing again. 

 

I'll look into adding states so that toss out can't be fired more than once and add a messagebox to make it more verbose. See if that fixes things. It's a difficult thing to test though. 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Monoman1

[kapibar]

9 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Do 'sqv pchsWartimes' please to confirm it's stopped.

It is indeed stopped.

 

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Also let me know what 'help pchsTossOutWarning' is set to. 

It's at 1.

 

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StartQuest  pchsWartimes

and do the debug thing again. 

 

Did that. Quest restarted successfully; the debug message: father will allow me back inside again.

Many thanks, MM!

[KSixNiner]

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    "formList" : 
    {
        "hasaccessories" : 
        [
            "0xCAA8|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp",
            "0x6D6A|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp"
        ],
        "tc" : 
        [
            "0x8465|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp",
            "0x7EF6|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp"
        ],
        "milk" : 
        [
            "0x6867|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D6D|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D6E|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D6F|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D71|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp"
        ],
        "outfits_0" : [ "0xCAA8|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp" ],
        "outfits_1" : [ "0x6D6A|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp" ]
    },
    "stringList" : 
    {
        "accessorieslist" : 
        [
            "tc",    
            "milk"
        ]
    }
}

 

what's wrong with this outfit.json? I can't get the accessories for the outfits_1

Outfits.json