Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

First time in this playthrough. I was kicked in an earlier version of WT. Mod list is basically the same, so I don't think there's any conflict on my end.

pchsWtUiKey.pex

Try this script please. Find new option under debug. Obviously, not happy not knowing the source of the issue.

[shiagwen]

not good. now i cheated the gold forthe cure and met ma outside the hause, hearing the story about father. now i shall go to bejen, but no arrow on map, map moves to rifton....however, i dont like mods who do not progress without console. another wasted day of my life !

[Monoman1]

4 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

Already short after the beginning i dont progress. doing 30 gold tasts doesnt seem to make sense for the 10000 gold i need for the cure. seeling pc gord to simple slavery auction, bought for 10k, but noone picks her up. dialogues to father only one dialoge with i...i...crying at the end.  all others just tasks or food and ale.

looks like  i have to give it up so fast.

You've unbalanced your game yourself. The file you posted in SLS basically disallows selling anything (which is nuts IMO).... This mod was not made to account for that. It's up to you to balance your own game with the modifications you make and the mods you install. You could just reduce the gold required from 10k to 1k or whatever. Use the options.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, my boii said:

I checked this thread again and from what I've gathered, you need his enjoyment to be on high percentage, unless you turn off male conditions.

 

Well, I got father on 200 enjoyment (even with the conditions off), and the same problem persists. Could I change the trigger of gaining/losing favor on this job somehow, and if so, how? Thanks

No you don't need high enjoyment. You just need his bar to fill and then it should drop back down again (orgasm). If that isn't happening then this is the wrong thread to be asking questions. You need to ask in the SLSO thread. 

[shiagwen]

5 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

You've unbalanced your game yourself. The file you posted in SLS basically disallows selling anything (which is nuts IMO).... This mod was not made to account for that. It's up to you to balance your own game with the modifications you make and the mods you install. You could just reduce the gold required from 10k to 1k or whatever. Use the options.

i dont have this mod installed this time. i thought the money should come from the mod itself, not switchiong to normal gameplay. there is no talk about an adventuring dungeonhero, and her clothes do not look like that. however, it will turn out same way : sek oncle bejen. and i dont look up for every npc in skyrim to find him, sorry guys,m that is not the way things work.

deinstall to save lifetime.

[shiagwen]

26 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

You've unbalanced your game yourself. The file you posted in SLS basically disallows selling anything (which is nuts IMO).... This mod was not made to account for that. It's up to you to balance your own game with the modifications you make and the mods you install. You could just reduce the gold required from 10k to 1k or whatever. Use the options.

i tell you what NUTS is : Nuts is to prostitute when you can craft some juwelry five times faster with five times more money, trhat is nuts. But only for people who can think a bit and who care for what they are doing.

[kapibar]

47 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

pchsWtUiKey.pex 28.66 kB · 1 download

Try this script please. Find new option under debug. Obviously, not happy not knowing the source of the issue.

According to the debug:

 

Main script is not running.

[Silvain]

10 hours ago, safado said:

 

@Silvain

It happened to me; I suspect Slaverun or TroubleOftheHeroine . Do you also have any of those installed? Maybe the changes are in the original Skyrim scripts overwritten but I do not know which one.  It also removes all the money.

 

@Silvain

Do you have Milk Mod Economy and Fertility Mode/BeingFemale? 

If yes:

• When the PC is detected are Father breeder/pregnant and eventually gets forced to get Milked and provide milk quota: The dialogue to "gift" the milk to "Father" opens and list the milk items but can't select anything to give.   A similar menu for Cumslut has no issues.  Because I upgraded a couple of mods that changed a lot, and may need restart, I have not posted anything yet about it until confirmed in new run.   

 

 

I do have TroubleOfTheHeroine. No Slaverun. So yeah maybe that did something. Thanks for the headsup.

 

Milk Economy + Fertility Mode (with Fixes from the Nexus). For me it is (or was - I haven't gotten to that point in my new playthrough just yet) the other way around. Gifting milk always works flawlessly but cum only works the first time.

But - as I've said - I don't know if that also persists in the new version. I'm not thjat far yet.

[my boii]

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

'Use separate orgasms' (SL) not enabled maybe or try disabling 'male orgasm conditions' (SLSO). 

 

Yea, seems that was my problem. Didn't find the 'Use separate orgasms' in the SLSO mod, then I tried doing some other fixes and forgot about it. Didnt realize SL stood for SexLab, oops. That was the only thing I needed to do. Thanks again.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

According to the debug:

 

Main script is not running.

Hmm. It would seem you've been tossed out permanently then. 

 

Do 'sqv pchsWartimes' please to confirm it's stopped. 

 

Funny though that pchsTossOut is still running. When thrown out permanently it should shut itself down lastly. 

Also let me know what 'help pchsTossOutWarning' is set to. 

 

I don't know that I can fix WT from whatever state it's in in your save but you can try

StartQuest  pchsWartimes

and do the debug thing again. 

 

I'll look into adding states so that toss out can't be fired more than once and add a messagebox to make it more verbose. See if that fixes things. It's a difficult thing to test though. 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Monoman1

[kapibar]

9 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Do 'sqv pchsWartimes' please to confirm it's stopped.

It is indeed stopped.

 

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Also let me know what 'help pchsTossOutWarning' is set to. 

It's at 1.

 

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StartQuest  pchsWartimes

and do the debug thing again. 

 

Did that. Quest restarted successfully; the debug message: father will allow me back inside again.

Many thanks, MM!

[KSixNiner]

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{
    "formList" : 
    {
        "hasaccessories" : 
        [
            "0xCAA8|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp",
            "0x6D6A|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp"
        ],
        "tc" : 
        [
            "0x8465|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp",
            "0x7EF6|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp"
        ],
        "milk" : 
        [
            "0x6867|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D6D|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D6E|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D6F|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D71|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp"
        ],
        "outfits_0" : [ "0xCAA8|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp" ],
        "outfits_1" : [ "0x6D6A|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp" ]
    },
    "stringList" : 
    {
        "accessorieslist" : 
        [
            "tc",    
            "milk"
        ]
    }
}

 

what's wrong with this outfit.json? I can't get the accessories for the outfits_1

Outfits.json

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, KSixNiner said:

what's wrong with this outfit.json? I can't get the accessories for the outfits_1

Can't see anything wrong myself. If you explore the outfit list through the debug menu they should be there? I think it's display outfit levels or something like that. 

 

I kind of wonder about the square brackets though - If PapyrusUtil might be interpreting them in a funny way. 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Monoman1

[KSixNiner]

36 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Can't see anything wrong myself. If you explore the outfit list through the debug menu they should be there? I think it's display outfit levels or something like that. 

 

I kind of wonder about the square brackets though - If PapyrusUtil might be interpreting them in a funny way. 

they both display in debug but outfit_1 don't have accessories 

[Monoman1]

26 minutes ago, KSixNiner said:

they both display in debug but outfit_1 don't have accessories 

If you click on the outfit in that menu  it should show the associated accessories. 

[KSixNiner]

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{
    "formList" : 
    {
        "hasaccessories" : [ "0xCAA8|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp", "0xd6a|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp" ],
        "tc" : 
        [ 
            "0x8465|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp", 
            "0x7EF6|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp",
            "0xC831|DX Leotard Collection.esp"        
        ],
        "mk" : 
        [
            "0x867|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x80a|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0xd71|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0xd6d|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0xd6e|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0xd6f|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp"
        ],
        "outfits_0" : [ "0xCAA8|[Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp" ],
        "outfits_1" : [ "0xd6a|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp" ]
    },
    "stringList" : 
    {
        "accessorieslist" : [ "tc", "mk" ]
    }
}
 

Don't know what went wrong but added the outfit in game debug and everything is working.  heres the new json it creates.

[safado]

3 hours ago, KSixNiner said:

Don't know what went wrong but added the outfit in game debug and everything is working.  heres the new json it creates.

 

@KSixNiner

The accessory references:

            "Failing outfit json"                                    "New Json"

            "0x6867|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",         "0x867|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",               
            "0x6D6D|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",            "0xd6d|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D6E|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",            "0xd6e|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",
            "0x6D6F|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",            "0xd6f|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp"
            "0x6D71|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp"            "0xd71|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",

                                                                        "0x80a|[Odd] MilkMaid.esp",

 

The references are different when compared. 0x6### to 0x###.

 

I think the discrepancy has more to do with how ESP-ESL formIDs are ordered in runtime.  All ESL flags plug-ins go to 0xFE###### block compacted together as a single "plug-in mod" at loading.  That why they need to be "compacted" to fit requirements during conversion from normal ESP to ESP-ESL, no ID gaps.

 

This is an SKyrim SE only issue. @Monoman1 could not replicate in his Skyrim LE.  Make sure MilkMaid stays in that order when adding stuff. 

 

@KSixNiner

Can you confirm if the "[Odd] MilkMaid.esp" is an ESP-ESL?  Thanks.

 

Edited September 14, 2021 by safado

[Monoman1]

Posted a small update 8.2. And removed 7.x as things seem ok largely. 

Please pay attention to the update notes from whatever version you're updating from. 

[Iroha]

On 9/13/2021 at 2:04 AM, my boii said:

For some reason, you cant get this guy to orgasm. His meter gets filled, and Ive tried stamina potions. There is a bottom blue bar that is filled from the start tho, if that makes sense. What am I missing? Im getting the -X favour message every time.

If its in rape scene - favor loss is intended as i remember.

[Silvain]

Ha, my good timing seems to have returned.

 

[my boii]

20 hours ago, Iroha said:

If its in rape scene - favor loss is intended as i remember.

Maybe that's true, that wasn't the problem though. It's fine cause I found the fix, I just hadn't ticked the "separate orgasms" option.

[oceanrelics]

Would it be possible to enable the milk job as a standalone job without requiring the pregnancy stuff to be running?

[Highborn]

Was the 'bad ending' in which you are locked in the cellar and raped by father removed from the mod? I tried badmouthing him in every opportunity but the outcome is the same, he makes the proposition to serve him or leave the house. 

[griffinjohn59]

49 minutes ago, Highborn said:

Was the 'bad ending' in which you are locked in the cellar and raped by father removed from the mod? I tried badmouthing him in every opportunity but the outcome is the same, he makes the proposition to serve him or leave the house. 

 

As of the Update before last if you gave him enough lip in the opening section he'd strip you, lock you in the cellar, and then make you and your mother into his slaves.

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 about beeing kicked out - although the debug says that I should be allowed back in the house, it doesn't happen. Days and days have passed, and nothing has happened.

Also - it would be great if there was an option to customize supply run mask. The iron hood is great and all, but personally I think the open ebonite hood is much more demeaning.